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AMD Releases Ryzen PRO Processors Worldwide, 8-Core Ryzen Threadripper 1900X (techradar.com)
Today, AMD announced the global release and broad adoption of AMD Ryzen Pro desktop processors. At its launch event in New York City, the company touted three main pillars that define these chipsets: reliability, security, and performance. They support features like Trusted Platform Module 2.0, which integrates secure microcontrollers into devices, GuardMI technology, which enables silicon-level security to help protect against threats, and SenseMI technology, which consists of a collection of smart features that aims to fine-tune performance for most responsive applications. For the first time, AMD has partnered with the top three PC OEMs: HP, Dell and Lenovo. Brad Chacos for PCWorld provides a "rundown of the commercial-focused Ryzen Pro systems that are coming down the pipeline, straight from AMD":
-Dell Optiplex 5055 desktop PCs are expected to ship in the coming weeks.
-HP EliteDesk 705 desktop PCs are expected to ship in the coming weeks.
-Lenovo ThinkCentre M715 desktop PCs are expected to ship in the coming weeks.
-Lenovo ThinkPad A475 and A275 notebook PCs are expected in Q4 2017.
-Ryzen PRO mobile processors are scheduled for launch in the first half of 2018.
The global launch of the Ryzen Pro processors is not the only bit of news AMD announced. The company also announced the release of a new budget Threadripper 1900X model. From a report via TechRadar: AMD has released its 8-core Ryzen Threadripper 1900X processor, offering people who were put off by high price of the flagship 16-core Threadripper 1950X a chance to build a PC with all of the advanced Threadripper features for almost half the cash. As we expected, the Threadripper 1900X will come with eight cores clocked at 3.8GHz, with a turbo that reaches 4.0GHz (and an XFR boost to 4.2GHz), and will cost $549 -- almost half the Threadripper 1950X's $999 asking price, and a fair bit cheaper than the mid-range Threadripper 1920X, which costs $799. In fact, the price is within touching distance of the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, which comes with eight cores and 16 threads, and costs $499.
-Dell Optiplex 5055 desktop PCs are expected to ship in the coming weeks.
-HP EliteDesk 705 desktop PCs are expected to ship in the coming weeks.
-Lenovo ThinkCentre M715 desktop PCs are expected to ship in the coming weeks.
-Lenovo ThinkPad A475 and A275 notebook PCs are expected in Q4 2017.
-Ryzen PRO mobile processors are scheduled for launch in the first half of 2018.
The global launch of the Ryzen Pro processors is not the only bit of news AMD announced. The company also announced the release of a new budget Threadripper 1900X model. From a report via TechRadar: AMD has released its 8-core Ryzen Threadripper 1900X processor, offering people who were put off by high price of the flagship 16-core Threadripper 1950X a chance to build a PC with all of the advanced Threadripper features for almost half the cash. As we expected, the Threadripper 1900X will come with eight cores clocked at 3.8GHz, with a turbo that reaches 4.0GHz (and an XFR boost to 4.2GHz), and will cost $549 -- almost half the Threadripper 1950X's $999 asking price, and a fair bit cheaper than the mid-range Threadripper 1920X, which costs $799. In fact, the price is within touching distance of the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, which comes with eight cores and 16 threads, and costs $499.
More competition is good, Intel pretty much sat on their hands for the last long while. In my workstation I really don't care if it is 200W or 10W CPU, but I do care how long I have to wait for something to compute.
intel pci-e io sucks!
The motherboard is expensive as it is designed with NUMA support and other enterprise level hardware. The threadripper is a remarked server grade Epyc CPU line which will compete with Xeons.
The 1900X is not worh the extra 5% improvement over an 1800x which will be much cheaper if you include the $50 CPU savings and the cheaper motherboard. However the x1900 will have guaranteed Linux support which some of the Ryzens are experiencing bugs though.
http://saveie6.com/
And it's a FEATURE. Gosh, I'm so happy and thankful to relinquish control over how the thing works after paying you for the privilege. I'm glad that you spend time designing ways to deliberately cripple its functionality instead of making it stable and reliable. Who wants stable and reliable anyway? No, what I want is a chip that has a bunch of sneaky shit embedded inside it, and consumes power checking my decisions, and preventing me from doing things I might want to do.
That is Intel propaganda. They are not glued Ryzen cpus no more than Xeons are glued i7s ... well maybe the rushed i9 is :-D
The Threadripper is based on Ryzen but has NUMA memory and deeper stage pipelines and caching for things like Linux support which is not impacted by the bug of the cheaper counterparts. It has more cache and also supports quad memory channels which is the bandwidth you talked about.
Also the regular Ryzen does use less power than an i7. I just wanted to point this out as people still say this and think you blow something like $100 a month in power (laughable false but I see that in fanboy posts on youtube).
http://saveie6.com/
GuardMi and SenseMi and TPM 2.0 are all scams to give you a false sense of security while they leave the feds a 'key under the mat' in the form of a crytographically secure 'Platform Support Module', analogous to Intel's ME/AMT technologies, that can access everything in your system with only a few very difficult methods of logging and discovering the activity. All of which require a second uncompromisable system sitting between your AMD/Intel system and the internet, sniffing over every packet and hoping they were sloppy enough to allow discovery.
Furthermore, unlike the Intel hardware the AMD PSP hasn't been proven to have a method to disable the firmware, which combined with the statement that neither minimal firmware for bootstrapping, nor auditable firmware for security analysis will be available makes them just as bad if not worse than Intel at this point in time.
Remember folks, if you're supporting either Intel or AMD in the desktop/notebook space, you're funding the permanent reduction of your digital rights. Just like with Cell Phones.
Remind your friends and ask them 'If you have nothing to hide, then you wouldn't mind me publishing those sexting pics to the internet, would you?'
and I don't mean general purpose CPUs that do double duty but something like this that really is meant for the workstation. If you're just a gamer these CPUs are worse than useless. They sightly under perform the top general purpose CPUs at twice the price. I know time is money, but there's diminishing returns (anyone remember 52x CDR?)
Then again they are not being marketed for gamers. I believe they are being marketed for high end cpu intensive applications like cad and 3d animation software, such as blender. Still, I'm kind of scratching my head there. I'm not sure how big that market would be.
When I built my new i7 system I opted to step down from 8 to 4 cores. From what I have been reading most game engines are optimized for 4 core intel based systems any way. Most games I get over 70 fps on a 4K gaming rig so I think it was good investment.
As for using extra cores for blender, I really don't see the point there. I use blender and like most serous blender users that I know we use the cycles engine and pawn the rendering off to the gpu. To me, it was a better deal to step down the cores and spend the extra $$$ on a better graphics card.
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A little background here. "Threadripper" is a reference to AMD swiftly removing the threads that hold Intel's coin purse together. ;)
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THIS JUST IN.
CPU marketed for amateur servers NOT PRICE EFFECTIVE FOR GAMES. ::mind explodes::
AMD desktop boards more pci-e from CPU then intel. How much did intel pay for that post and that raid key only works for DMI switched ones.
On intel desktop boards you have a lot of stuff stacked on the DMI bus. And the intel Enthusiash ones are min cost $1000 to get 44 lanes.
AMD Enthusiast chips have 64 and servers have 128.
The 1900x is looking to be THE go-to processor for data science needs, or really anybody who is serious about massive multithreading or deep learning. You've got more PCIE lanes than anything else on the market, to support multiple GPUs with high-bandwidth x16 PCIE interfaces. Single-thread performance is almost never the bottleneck here, so really what you want to optimize on the maximum number of PCIE lanes per dollar, and this cheap Threadripper wins by a mile.
Time to start prepping the Newegg wish list. And convincing the wife that the bare minimum for this system is a Geforce 1080 Ti... or 4.
As much as I appreciate the price/performance of Ryzen based CPUs and the competition it has sparked, I will stay away from any Zeppelin-Die-based CPUs until AMD provides a proper explanation and fix for the "gcc segmentation fault" bug that haunts Ryzen CPUs.
After many months of not admitting any bug existence to the affected users, AMD finally admitted there is one, yet they neither recalled affected CPUs nor do they tell us how to distinguish affected from unaffected CPUs - so even if you buy a Ryzen today, you can still buy one unsuitable for ordinary gcc compilation tasks.
Given that they cannot (or do not want to) say which CPUs are affected, and given that AMD did never explain a root cause of this bug and how it is fixed, I do not believe they actually have fixed it or know how to fix it. Even CPUs that were manufactured in calender week 25 of 2017 have turned out to be affected!
Why should I believe they fixed this for "Threadripper"?
Sure, they know by now how to test individual CPU exemplars for the bug, and might deliver unaffected ones to the press for reviews. Does that tell me they will do the same testing for the exemplars delivered to the mass market? No.
More information on this bug via https://forum.level1techs.com/... and https://community.amd.com/thre...
Those devices tend to be idle 99% of the time. TDP is almost completely irrelevant for their actual power use.
Their production going forward has solved the problem.
Can you provide a link to any credible source stating this - or the nature of the change to the production process?
And if this was true, then why has AMD returned still-defective CPUs even to people who RMA'd because of exactly this bug in the last few weeks?
They aren't doing a recall because it would bankrupt them.
That does seem plausible, but personally I don't want to be involved in an RMA-until-you-get-lucky game.
I will stay away from any Zeppelin-Die-based CPUs until AMD provides a proper explanation and fix for the "gcc segmentation fault" bug that haunts Ryzen CPUs.
Umm... they already did both of those.
No, they did neither. Please provide a link to that proper explanation and description of the fix you say exists.
What AMD currently does is rather "have some poor guy test N CPUs to find some non-buggy exemplars amongst them and ship those to RMA demanding customers". And as one can see from the reports of affected people, even recently delivered RMA-exchange CPUs (manufactured in CW 30) were still affected: https://docs.google.com/spread...
So it really is a supercomputer on the desktop.
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LOL at "investment". How much money does that 70 fps gaming rig earn you?
Not as much as it usually does. Only $95 the month before last, and a little over a $100 and some change last month. Not even enough to cover the cost on renting my homestead. But that isn't surprising marketplace sales are kind of slow this time of year.
I could have picked up some slack doing some Dj work or picking up some custom scripting contracts but I really didn't feel like messing with it. Things should pick up as fall starts, but to be honest, its going to be hard to clear $300 bucks. I have to get some new products up on the marketplace.
Wait. You where being a smart ass wasn't you? I bet it never dawned on you that you can use a kickass gaming rig to earn real money inside a game?
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