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A Powerful Solar Storm Is Bringing Hazards and Rare Auroras Our Way (fastcompany.com)

tedlistens shares a report from Fast Company: The Space Weather Prediction Center has upgraded a geomagnetic storm watch for September 6 and 7 to a level only occasionally seen, but scientists say it's nothing to be too alarmed about. They do recommend looking for an unusual display of the aurora -- the northern lights caused by a disturbance of the magnetosphere -- in areas of the U.S. not used to seeing them: "really in the upper tier of the United States," says Robert Rutledge, lead of operations at the center, which is part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. The storm could pose an "elevated radiation risk to passengers and crew in high-flying aircraft at far north or south latitudes," a NOAA warning says, and intermittently impact high frequency RF communications, which may require some transpolar flight routes to divert to lower geomagnetic latitudes (a shift that would cost the airlines more). There's a slim chance of isolated interfere with high-precision GPS readings, but those issues usually only tend to arise with stronger storms.

The so-called G3 level storm is the result of what's called a coronal mass ejection, where magnetic interactions on the sun launch part of its outer atmosphere of superheated plasma into space. When that burst of radiation gets near earth -- barreling toward us at a million miles per hour, it takes about two days to make the journey -- its magnetic field interacts with Earth's, Rutledge says. Northern U.S. and Canadian residents hoping to catch a glimpse of the aurora will get their best shot on Wednesday night and early Thursday, and the Space Weather Prediction Center posts 30-minute forecasts of the colorful sky phenomenon's intensity.

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  1. DON'T PANIC! by gotan · · Score: 1

    Every time I heard/read warnings of solar storms and their effects in the end it was kind of a non-event.

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    1. Re:DON'T PANIC! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Every time I heard/read warnings of solar storms and their effects in the end it was kind of a non-event.

      Apparently, you don't get your internet access wirelessly. I have connection problems during pretty much every major solar storm, indeed far more than I do during regular storms.

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    2. Re:DON'T PANIC! by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      Just because Satellite & Power Grid outages only happen occasionally doesn't mean they wont

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    3. Re:DON'T PANIC! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Interesting
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    4. Re:DON'T PANIC! by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Every time I heard/read warnings of solar storms and their effects in the end it was kind of a non-event.

      Apparently, you don't get your internet access wirelessly. I have connection problems during pretty much every major solar storm, indeed far more than I do during regular storms.

      You might want to re-analyze your data or look at the outside connection being the culprit. Your wireless doesn't operate in a band affected by geomagnetic storms that aren't severe enough to destroy the power grid. Only HF bands are affected and it's predictable and repetitive. Anyone who listens to WWV on 2.5-5MHz can experience it, but only barely, and even that's not as bad as lower bands. Your wireless operates on a MUUUUCCCHHH higher 2400MHz or 5000-5800MHz. The wavelength is much shorter, has less transmission-point-to-receive point distance ALWAYS, and isn't affected by interference unless the interference is intentionally generated at those specific frequencies to overpower the interleaves between waves. Geomagnetic events are low-wave and affect the properties of the atmosphere when it comes to long-distance low-band HF transmission reception (the signals don't carry as well or bounce as efficiently). It doesn't make the signals go away if you're line-of-sight from the transmission point to receive point. Your wireless penetrates walls and other barriers (aside from metal enclosures like metal buildings or the inside of older cars). "Wireless" internet from a provider depends on provider, but the lowest transmission signal in operation I'm aware of at this point is the upper portion of the 600MHz range (like 690-area). It isn't affected, either.

      If you were making a joke, I missed it. Sorry.

  2. Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . two major hurricanes, Lil' Kim threatening to deliver "gift packages", domestic unrest to the point of rioting in some places, and now this.

    I halfway expect Godzilla to emerge from Tokyo Bay, at this rate (grin)

  3. Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

    Because as best I can tell from the linked prediction animation, you need to be in Alaska to have a hope of seeing this, because all the other states are at least 4 degrees too far south.

    And Canada doesn't have a hell of a lot of people living north of James Bay, either.

    1. Re:Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by swb · · Score: 2

      The predictions are 30 minutes forecasts, so its likely the storm hasn't hit the L1 point used for generating the 30 minute predictions yet. The animation is the last couple of days, not a projection.

    2. Re:Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      1. Thank you.

      2. I should comically smack myself in the forehead while saying "Do'h!" for missing that.

    3. Re:Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Informative

      OK, so I found the experimental 3 day forecast:

      http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/produ...

      It looks like I might have actually seen something... if my region wasn't also predicted to be blanketed with rain clouds and the occasional thunderstorm through to the weekend. :(

    4. Re:Why don't they just say 'Alaska'? by Drethon · · Score: 1

      In July the Auroras were visible as far south as Colorado I believe so it is possible for quite a bit of the US to see Auroras. Though an event like that doesn't come along very often but there is a chance any major Aurora event could appear further south than usual.

  4. Light pollution by DrYak · · Score: 1

    You'd also need to be away from big settlement so the light pollution doesn't completely over flood the auroras.

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  5. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    hmm. Never mentioned Globull Wormening. Just noting that it's gotten unusually wierd out there, lately. . . .

  6. All Forecasting Rubbish... kind of by adosch · · Score: 1

    My subject is just mass skepticism mixed with a bad science and forecasting model coupled with some sick conspiracy to get people who live in the Northern US to stay up until the wee hours again like we all did in July 2017! This is even more bleak than last time based on their description.

    I will say: Why the heck is 'upper tier of the US' and 'areas of the US' even advertised in this article? That's garbage. Upper tier is Minnesota, North and some of South Dakota, Montana and anything else directly east and west of those and certainly not anymore south than Nebraska as best. Did geography change overnight? The only thing I see is Alaska and that's never been considered 'CONUS' last time I knew. I guess when the 'US' is said, I think CONUS --- we all know Hawaii and Alaska are part of the US but outlying.

    Man, whoever is writing this Aurora news lately really wants to make a story out of it.

    1. Re:All Forecasting Rubbish... kind of by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      My subject is just mass skepticism mixed with a bad science and forecasting model coupled with some sick conspiracy to get people who live in the Northern US to stay up until the wee hours again like we all did in July 2017! This is even more bleak than last time based on their description.

      I will say: Why the heck is 'upper tier of the US' and 'areas of the US' even advertised in this article? That's garbage. Upper tier is Minnesota, North and some of South Dakota, Montana and anything else directly east and west of those and certainly not anymore south than Nebraska as best. Did geography change overnight? The only thing I see is Alaska and that's never been considered 'CONUS' last time I knew. I guess when the 'US' is said, I think CONUS --- we all know Hawaii and Alaska are part of the US but outlying.

      Man, whoever is writing this Aurora news lately really wants to make a story out of it.



      I don't know why they write this shit, like all of us can observe it the same as the people who live out in the middle of nowhere in said areas with 30-second-exposure cameras with light amplification.
  7. Re:I taught my pet peacock to feed from my penis by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

    all stretched out now?

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  8. Re:Coronal Mass Ejection? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Admit it - you laughed

    No, I did not.

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  9. Re:Math Fail by djsmiley · · Score: 1

    You all fail.

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  10. Car guy here. by mjwx · · Score: 1

    I halfway expect Godzilla to emerge from Tokyo Bay, at this rate (grin)

    Picturing a Nissan GTR being dragged up from Tokyo harbour.

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    1. Re:Car guy here. by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1


      <p>Picturing a Nissan GTR being dragged up from Tokyo harbour.</p></quote>

      Thank you. I got the day's necessary healthy laugh from that. You rule! :-D

  11. More coming? by ebcdic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There have been two X class solar flares today, and the second was X9, which is the biggest of this solar cycle. So there may be more geomagnetic storms coming over the next few days.

    1. Re:More coming? by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      The only thing that sucks is that I have to work and can't go up north to my lake property with its nice dark sky.

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    2. Re:More coming? by barakn · · Score: 1

      The sunspots are near the solar equator and thus belong to the old cycle, not a new one.

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    3. Re:More coming? by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Either way this is supposed to be solar minimum...



      Humans have had such an impact with global warming and stuff that things like this happen. Look at the solar minimum releasing more radiation than expected... Damn Humans for making these things happen!

      Sorry, had to. :)
    4. Re:More coming? by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Is this a joke or are you being serious?

      If you're being serious, think about physics for a second. The magnetic loops in the areas that might blow again aren't pointed toward us anymore due to rotation and orbiting. I think we're good, man. All good, yo.

  12. Smoke by PPH · · Score: 1

    Here in the Pacific Northwest. I had a thin layer of ash on my car again this morning.

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    1. Re:Smoke by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

      Here in the Pacific Northwest. I had a thin layer of ash on my car again this morning.

      What? I can't hear you!?! You had a light coating of ash on par this morning?? WHA? :)

  13. Re: Natures Tribute to TRUMP! by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Trump should visit the Sun and tell it how great he is.

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  14. Re:Too close to full Moon by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    This is correct; the moon is full and it'll be up all night in the USA. This will reduce the visibility of any aurora to your eye by interfering with your night vision (your pupils won't dilate enough), and when there's any particulate matter in the air (smoke, as the AC mentions, but also water vapor, etc.) this creates illumination in the atmosphere that further reduces your ability to see anything by creating a "bright sky."

    There are auroras intense enough to get past all of this, but the odds against them are very high.

    Your best bet is a combination of very dry, very clear air and a camera set to high ISO, aimed north. The odds for a human-eye visible aurora are very low this evening because of the above factors.

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  15. Stay inside by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

    Between the Aurora and the eclipse we'll all be blinded. The Triffids will triumph.

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  16. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by wyHunter · · Score: 1

    Actually it's more that it didn't happen in their backyard. Given that Texas is home to about 1 in 9 people of the USA, well, a lot of folks live in Texas or have friends and relatives who do. I daresay that to the folks in southeast Asia, hurricane harvey didn't mean a lot to them, either.

  17. Joke. by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    "Oh, nos! It's happening again! I'll lose productivity at work because of failures in all of my electronic equipment. My car won't start. I feel cancer developing in my brain right now. I can't use my oven at home!

    The fact that I'm watching movies at work over my wireless provider connection is different because that isn't affected for some reason... and my air conditioning somehow still works. The fridge is fine. Those I can't explain, but everything else in my life is torn apart!!!

    *posts to Facebook*"

    I'm sorry, I had to. It's happened and I have to bring it to light. Ha. Light.

  18. Re: Natures Tribute to TRUMP! by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    Trump should visit the Sun and push it aside to make it know how great he is.

    I think your fingers slipped. I tidied it up a bit for ya. You're welcome.

  19. Re:Let's see. . . in the past month, we've had. . by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    Hmm, you mean to say Glowbull Worming?



    Worming the bright Red Bull? What has it come to these days??