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The Google Drive App For PC, Mac Is Being Shut Down In March (theverge.com)

Google announced in a blog post today that the Google Drive app for desktop will be shut down. The Verge reports: Support will be cut off on December 11th and the app will shut down completely on March 12th, 2018. Users who are still running the Drive app will start seeing notifications in October that it's "going away," and the company will steer customers towards one of two replacements depending on whether they're a consumer or business user. Google Drive the service isn't going anywhere. You can still access it from the web, smartphone apps, and either of the software options mentioned below. Google now has two fairly new software tools for backing up your data and/or accessing files in the cloud. There's Backup and Sync, the all-encompassing consumer app that replaces both the standalone Google Drive and Google Photos Uploader apps. It offers essentially the same functionality as Drive and works much the same way. And on the enterprise side, Google has rolled out Drive File Streamer, which saves space on your local drive while providing access to "all of your Google Drive files on demand, directly from your computer."

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  1. So what's the problem? by jimprdx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Drive app is replaced by the "backup and sync" app which does EXACTLY the same thing (plus you can sync directories other than the "Google Drive" one). It has a different icon and name, but it is basically an update, a version 2.0. The functionality is not "going away", if you install the new program is removes and replaces the old one, you don't even need to login again, everything is carried over.

    So, what's the problem?

    1. Re:So what's the problem? by Gussington · · Score: 2

      No problem for people like you and me. But I get called on from time to time to help non computer illiterate friends and family do things on their computer. For people like this any change is a problem.

    2. Re:So what's the problem? by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      Why, I suppose the same problem as before, Google is pretty bloody privacy invasive, so it is not really a good idea. Plus in the shift away from Google's politically driven corporate censorship of citizens, you should be abandoning their services as much as possible ie take you pick of stories https://duckduckgo.com/?q=goog... where Google was caught out blatantly invading people's privacy (and yeah, duckduckgo away Google is more than good enough now). If they don't feel economic pain, they will never reform.

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    3. Re:So what's the problem? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

      I get called on from time to time to help non computer illiterate friends and family do things on their computer. For people like this any change is a problem.

      It's far past time we allow these people to languish in their refusal to use critical thinking to solve their own problems. Hell, they don't even have to think much, just follow the flowchart! https://xkcd.com/627/

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    4. Re:So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the bloody fuck are you talking about?

    5. Re:So what's the problem? by OldMugwump · · Score: 2

      Just wait till you're old.

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    6. Re:So what's the problem? by Goetterdaemmerung · · Score: 2

      The Drive app is replaced by the "backup and sync" app which does EXACTLY the same thing (plus you can sync directories other than the "Google Drive" one). It has a different icon and name, but it is basically an update, a version 2.0. The functionality is not "going away", if you install the new program is removes and replaces the old one, you don't even need to login again, everything is carried over.

      So, what's the problem?

      Google Drive is not exactly the same as Google Backup and Sync. As per the summary it may be similar, but not exactly the same at the least because Photos Uploader is also in the picture. It also suggests there are changes requiring additional "replacement" programs to be installed. I hypothesize that the icons and links may be different as well.

    7. Re:So what's the problem? by LordByronStyrofoam · · Score: 1

      They don't have a linux port of their tools.

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    8. Re:So what's the problem? by mspohr · · Score: 2

      I am old, you insensitive clod.
      Now get off my lawn.

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    9. Re:So what's the problem? by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 1

      But they do have a public API, last I checked.

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    10. Re:So what's the problem? by Gussington · · Score: 1

      It's far past time we allow these people to languish in their refusal to use critical thinking to solve their own problems.

      Let them eat cake!

    11. Re:So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no problem, just another's computers somewhere, and then more and more of them, belonging to yet someone else, ad infinitum.
      Pay they don't alter the deal any further.

    12. Re: So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem... complainers are the problem. The kind of people who can find fault in anything. There could be flawless diamonds lying in a complainer's front yard and they'd complain cause they have to bend over to pick them up.

    13. Re:So what's the problem? by thsths · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are two problems:

      1. Why expose all the hassle to the user, when it is really just a new version? Why not make it seamless?

      2. It says it will work very much like the current program, which unfortunately means not very well. Too many times has it told me that everything is synchronised, and for me to discover later that it has not pushed my changes to the server. Out of all the synchronisation programs I have tried, it is by far the least reliable one. It also has a nasty habit of just crashing.

      Now of course the new program might not have these problems, which would be nice. We shall see.

    14. Re:So what's the problem? by infolation · · Score: 2

      They don't have a linux port of their tools.

      rclone is FOSS, works great and is also compatible with Amazon S3, Rackspace Cloudfiles, Dropbox, Amazon Drive, Backblaze, Hubic, OneDrive and Yandex Disk. Basically rsync for cloud storage.

    15. Re:So what's the problem? by Bongo · · Score: 1

      I am old, you insensitive gobermouch.
      Now get off my moat.

    16. Re:So what's the problem? by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      I'm 64, soon to be 65. Are any of you older than that?

    17. Re: So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Need any more reasons to exit and stop using all Google services. G-exit in progress.

    18. Re: So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is the new Microsoft X 10000. Stassi inc. You drones.

    19. Re:So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's far past time we allow these people to languish in their refusal to use critical thinking to solve their own problems.

      I am not even thirty and I get pissed whenever someone pulls working software from under my feet to replace it with something newer and "better" ( may GNOME3 burn in hell). Give me something static that stays out of my way and not an ever changing mess of "upgrades". Same for my parents, give me something that works, something I can show them how to use once and leave it alone, they are not interested in some drugged up designers/architects latest vision, they want something that does its job without going on a drug trip.

    20. Re: So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No. You win. You're the eldest here.

    21. Re:So what's the problem? by c · · Score: 2

      So, what's the problem?

      The problem is that "being shut down" makes for a better click-bait headline than "being replaced" or "being renamed". I guess.

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    22. Re:So what's the problem? by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      Your name is Sid Dabster and I claim the $1,000 prize!

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    23. Re:So what's the problem? by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2

      But I get called on from time to time to help non computer illiterate friends and family do things on their computer.

      My non computer illiterate friends and family call on me too, sometimes. It's the non computer literate ones that eat my time.

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    24. Re:So what's the problem? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Often the problem is with accessing Google Search in the first place, which makes the "Google the name of the program plus a few words related to what you want to do. Follow any instructions." node ineffective. Or they get to the "Pick one at random." node and end up picking the one option that causes data loss, not knowing that it will cause data loss. For this and other reasons, certain of my relatives reach the "Have you been trying this for over half an hour? - Yes" edge fairly consistently.

    25. Re:So what's the problem? by chispito · · Score: 1

      So, what's the problem?

      The problem is Slashdot still needs to complain about Google letting products or services die.

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    26. Re: So what's the problem? by hunter44102 · · Score: 1

      BACKUP and sync is - per- PC backup. How does it replace dropping a file onto drive and accessing it with separate tablets, phones and PC's?

    27. Re:So what's the problem? by BlueKitties · · Score: 1

      I don't care about computer illiterate, I personally don't feel like having "another thing to do." I'm constantly hassled with software updates that switch up my routine, and at this point I'm starting to just prefer paper. After all, it isn't "just" Google that wants to dream up the next great paradigm to force everyone else to learn. I'm tired and busy, and installing some stupid update and re-learning it is ANOTHER piece of crap I have to deal with. It feels like every so often, I launch an app and am greeted with an "easy" 5-step tutorial to the "new exciting changes" that moved all my buttons around AGAIN.

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    28. Re:So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Change! It's SCARY!

    29. Re:So what's the problem? by Gussington · · Score: 1

      You know when I wrote that I wrote 'non computer literate' the first time, then when I quickly reviewed I only saw 'computer literate', thought that was wrong and changed it and hit send.
      I need to learn to slow down...

    30. Re:So what's the problem? by Gussington · · Score: 1

      It's update fatigue. If you only ever use one or two apps then regular continuous updates sound like the right idea, keeping you up to date on top. But since most people have dozens of apps they regularly use, the constant updates overtake your life. It's at the point now where I stop using apps because the update fatigue is not worth it.
      Developers need to understand that their app is only one of millions that we use and should take that into account when introducing change.

    31. Re:So what's the problem? by therealbev · · Score: 1

      Got you beat by ten years, kid, and I run slackware!

    32. Re:So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the EULA?

    33. Re:So what's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will be 75 in one month. I will certainly be able to adapt to this change. I just want to rail about the fact that I have to .
      It is a PITA when these things happen.

  2. Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After today's massive Drive outage, anyone who entrusts their important information to these people (or any cloud service, really) has to be brain dead. Mission critical stuff on site. Always.

    1. Re:Do not want by dohzer · · Score: 2

      Isn't that the point? Store non-critical stuff locally (with backups off-site) and only use the cloud for less critical storage/processing?

    2. Re:Do not want by lucm · · Score: 1

      Depends what "locally" means. You should see the people who manage servers at the office, I wouldn't trust them with a tertiary backup of my collection of Lucy Liu pics.

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    3. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      collection of Lucy Liu pics

      Link?

  3. support for Linux? by SysEngineer · · Score: 1

    Android code base would be similar to Linux. It would be great if Linux was still supported while MAC and windows not.

    1. Re: support for Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are significant differences between supporting Android and supporting PC Linux distributions. Just because they use the same kernel doesn't mean that the environment built on top is similar enough to make supporting both simple. So, what you're saying is ridiculous. Furthermore, why would it benefit you to have access to a Google Drive application on Linux while Windows and Mac users would not? That is incredibly smug and asinine. You come off like an immature kiddie who thinks it's cool to run Linux because he thinks it will make him better than his friends who run Windows or OS X. Very little skill is required to install and configure a basic Linux system now, and it certainly doesn't mean that you actually have any significant technical skill. To summarize, you're an arrogant and ignorant prick in large and approximately equal quantities, and you should fuck right off.

    2. Re:support for Linux? by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      There however exist commercial ($4.99) Google Drive clients for Linux: https://www.thefanclub.co.za/o...

    3. Re:support for Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I wanted to pay for stuff, I'd be running Windows. Those guys can keep their garbageware, and I'll keep my money.

    4. Re:support for Linux? by lucm · · Score: 1

      But they need your money to buy a real domain name.

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    5. Re: support for Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About 5 lunches of the evil ceo , one engineer, no managers .

    6. Re:support for Linux? by tepples · · Score: 1

      You need "a real domain name" just for your household if you're going to be running any local webservers, as CAs don't issue TLS certificates for RFC 1918 IP addresses or made-up TLDs, and both Chrome and Firefox restrict cleartext HTTP servers from using sensitive JavaScript APIs.

    7. Re:support for Linux? by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      Hardly garbageware, I'm a happy user of it and it works quite well for me at least. And while this is feeding the troll; paying or not paying is not a Windows vs Linux thing at all.

  4. The Google Drive desktop application is utter garbage for collaborative work. Mis-synced files, missing files, mis-versioned files, corrupted files--it was utterly worthless for anything beyond light personal use.

    Here's hoping its replacement actually works.

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    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's hoping its replacement actually works.

      Yep, just like a curbside mailbox.

    2. Re:Good by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      This just in: remote filesystems are not as good as distributed revisions control systems at being a distributed revision control systems. Film at 11.

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    3. Re:Good by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 0

      Agreed, was using it for some code I was messing around with and the fucking thing kept changing the extensions, probably because it was trying to keep me "safe" from my own fucking code. Which considering some of the stuff I've written is not always a bad thing, but it was bloody annoying.

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    4. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it presented as more than being useful for anything besides light personal use? I don't use the service and I'm not questioning your post beyond saying that it may be the wrong tool for the job. It sounds to me that it's doing what I'd expect it to do on the surface.

  5. Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would anyone let Google scan their files once uploaded? You know they are. Your information is valuable.

    Better options abound. Google is not a company with which one should do business.

    1. Re: Why by jimbo · · Score: 1

      Why pick only on Google? I wouldn't trust *any* cloud provider. I use things like Boxcryptor to keep my files in the cloud private.

  6. Of course... by TheOuterLinux · · Score: 1

    They combine all of that together because Google is hoping you forget to turn off your photo sync settings. Let the biometrics flow....

    1. Re:Of course... by thsths · · Score: 1

      Of course it should not be turned on by default, but somehow I have a feeling that it will be.

  7. hahahahahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    google is related to money laundry???? and google drive was being used for that??? WOW!!!! hahahhahahahahaha

  8. This is why I won't waste time on TensorFlow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sooner or later it will be suddenly EOLed.

    1. Re:This is why I won't waste time on TensorFlow... by infolation · · Score: 1

      Google Drive is a service, TensorFlow is a free open-source technology. If Google decide to abandon TensorFlow it can be forked and picked up by the community.

  9. Good engineers, terrible marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have never seen a company so successful at building amazing products with so many smart people working there manage to completely destroy its traction in markets. Messaging, social networking - its like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Complete failures of leadership.

    I work at Amazon. Our engineering teams are good, but clearly not quite at the level of Google. But we ship products that do what customers want and we make money in markets. We don't play silly fricking games with "beta" for two years then scrapping products millions of people use.

    Then again, we aren't an advertising company where you aren't the customer, you are the product. Ultimately that attitude will be Google's downfall.

    1. Re:Good engineers, terrible marketing by thsths · · Score: 2

      I completely agree. Google products can be amazing, they can do exactly what you want. But that is pure luck, and even if it is great, you cannot rely on Google keeping it around. To many times they have pulled the plug on one of the features I used.

    2. Re: Good engineers, terrible marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is willing to waste 1 billion dollars just to make sure great engineers do not work for competitors or themselves, Google is the anti Christ and devil love child that will burn in hell.

    3. Re:Good engineers, terrible marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I find baffling is that with all their (Google's) resources and apparent expertise, the concept of 'human factors' seems to completely evade them. Gmail? you don't force drill down to find the most basic function that a majority would use; and you don't leave 'power user' (for lack of a better word) crap at the surface of the interface.

  10. Death to the cloud. by WolfgangVL · · Score: 2

    The internet is one big giant data-leak, and you can't clean up the mess.

    What a horrible place to store anything valuable/confidential.

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  11. Is this the function that integrates with by blind+biker · · Score: 1

    windows explorer? The one that is basically seamless and works as a file server?
    I quite like that, to save my work files on the Google Drive folder and don't worry about backups.

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    1. Re: Is this the function that integrates with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loser

  12. For business users, it's not ready... by grahamtriggs · · Score: 2

    Backup and sync replacing Google Drive is probably fine for home users. It exists, and people can get on with it now.

    But I don't use the Google Drive app for personal files. I use it for my company's G Suite set up. For which they are directing people to "Drive File Stream" - an application that doesn't exist yet (there is an early access program, with a number of restrictions).

    It's decidedly premature to announce the end of the Google Drive app, when the replacement for business users isn't ready to go.

    1. Re:For business users, it's not ready... by coofercat · · Score: 1

      It is indeed an odd decision, when considering that (shock, horror!) Microsoft has a competing product, which amazingly works quite well, works on the Mac, and isn't going through some sort of poorly-thought-out-microsoft-rebranding right now.

      Google makes a mis-step so bad that Microsoft can capitalise on it? Not a good day for Google, or indeed us minions.

    2. Re:For business users, it's not ready... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Google makes a mis-step so bad that Microsoft can capitalise on it? Not a good day for Google, or indeed us minions.

      It's par for the course for Google these days.

  13. Oh Joy. by Computershack · · Score: 1

    Only a couple of hundred machines to upgrade remotely over the internet, many of them on internet connections that are barely better than dial up. Thanks Google.

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    1. Re: Oh Joy. by kenh · · Score: 1

      The problems with your infrastructure aren't google's fault...

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    2. Re:Oh Joy. by tepples · · Score: 1

      If you have hundreds of users on ISDN or EDGE Internet, how do they use Google Drive in the first place without being frustrated by loading bars?

  14. "Google Drive the service isn't going anywhere." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's a rather strange comment when you look at Google's reputation for closing services whenever they feel like it. Google Drive the service and all their other services are likely to go anywhere. If you want a stable service, don't use Google.

  15. Symbolic links by kbg · · Score: 1

    So do we finally get symbolic links now? Or is this "Backup and Sync" uncomplete garbage app like always from Google?

    1. Re: Symbolic links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, and yes.

  16. "PC" by xororand · · Score: 1, Informative

    Please don't use the abbreviation "PC" with the implication that the computer is running Microsoft Windows. If you install GNU/Linux on the same computer, it is still a PC.

    The term “WC” has been suggested for a computer running Windows.

    https://www.gnu.org/philosophy...

    1. Re:"PC" by fnj · · Score: 1

      W.C. = cute. At first it struck me as hilariously appropriate. But then I realized. A W.C. (toilet) actually does perform a useful function.

    2. Re:"PC" by ledow · · Score: 2

      You lost that battle in the 90's.

      Same way the "GNU/Linux" stuff was always dead in the water too.

      Rather than fight against it fruitlessly, just accept it and move on. PC is an architecture and even "Macs" are really just "PCs" now (as is XBox and so on). But that distinction doesn't hold anywhere outside an IT office.

      Rather than try to revive antiquated terms (which people killed off when they stopped saying "IBM-compatible), just use the full product name itself if you want to distinguish. A Windows PC or a Linux PC.

      But "PC" will mean Windows PC until a certain large company stops making that OS.

  17. What? It runs on bare PC with no OS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How exactly did they manage that? I guess it's an EFI module?

  18. lol you dirty GNU hippie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just lol

  19. Re: WC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The term “WC” has been suggested for a computer running Windows.

    I'm guessing they picked that name because it implies that it's full of the same stuff that you put into the other WC?

    (* Hint for Americans: WC stands for water closet.)

  20. Xfce by tepples · · Score: 1

    I get pissed whenever someone pulls working software from under my feet to replace it with something newer and "better" ( may GNOME3 burn in hell). Give me something static that stays out of my way and not an ever changing mess of "upgrades".

    When GNOME 2 was pulled from under my bottom in Ubuntu 11.10 in favor of Un(usabil)ity, I did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and never looked back. It's been nearly six years since I switched to Xfce, and it has proven to be comfortably static in the way you describe.

    1. Re:Xfce by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      I get pissed whenever someone pulls working software from under my feet to replace it with something newer and "better" ( may GNOME3 burn in hell). Give me something static that stays out of my way and not an ever changing mess of "upgrades".

      When GNOME 2 was pulled from under my bottom in Ubuntu 11.10 in favor of Un(usabil)ity, I did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and never looked back. It's been nearly six years since I switched to Xfce, and it has proven to be comfortably static in the way you describe.

      This is true. I don't know how many years it has been, but my default action on any new install is to run Xfce. I don't remember it ever going funky on me.

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  21. How to send files without someone else's computer? by tepples · · Score: 1

    There's no problem, just another's computers somewhere

    Without the use of someone else's computer, how else are you supposed to send a file from your computer behind a firewall that blocks incoming connections to a colleague's computer behind a firewall that blocks incoming connections?

    Email? FTP site? VPN? All use someone else's computer, unless you spend big bucks to colo your own.

  22. Repo hosting; files other than plain text by tepples · · Score: 1

    This just in: remote filesystems are not as good as distributed revisions control systems at being a distributed revision control systems. Film at 11.

    Google used to offer revision control under the name Google Code. It no longer does. So which service do you recommend for hosting a private distributed revision control repository? Is $108 per year (source) a good deal?

    And how well do popular distributed revision control systems handle things other than the relatively small, diff-friendly plain text files that make up computer program source code? Examples include design documents made with LibreOffice or large graphics files made with GIMP.

    1. Re:Repo hosting; files other than plain text by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      Google used to offer revision control under the name Google Code. It no longer does. So which service do you recommend for hosting a private distributed revision control repository? Is $108 per year (source) a good deal?

      Private paid Github works nicely if you aren't concerned about using someone else's machines. It's not very expensive and it works alright. I keep my local git repos in a Google drive for enhanced irony.

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  23. Mac is PC; Xbox isn't by tepples · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Same way the "GNU/Linux" stuff was always dead in the water too.

    What's a better term to distinguish GNU/Linux, which uses Linux as its kernel, from Android, which also uses Linux as its kernel?

    PC is an architecture and even "Macs" are really just "PCs" now (as is XBox and so on).

    Macs are personal computers because the person who owns it directs what computing is done on it. This has been the case as long as Xcode has been available. An unmodded retail Xbox, by contrast, is not a personal computer because Microsoft uses code signing to control what code is allowed to run. The same is true of a Windows RT or Windows 10 S device.

    1. Re:Mac is PC; Xbox isn't by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 2

      That's fascinating. Now perhaps you could explain to us all how the common usage of the term "hacker" is incorrect, and that the proper term is "cracker"?

      Please?

      Pretty Please?

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    2. Re:Mac is PC; Xbox isn't by tepples · · Score: 1

      I prefer "hacker" vs. "intruder" so as not to allude to racial tension.

  24. Virtually all PCs come with Windows or macOS by tepples · · Score: 1

    I estimate that on over 95 percent of new, fully assembled desktop and laptop PCs sold in retail stores in Google's home country, EFI is bundled with one of two operating systems: macOS on Apple PCs or Windows on other brands.

  25. How does backup/sync replace drive? by hunter44102 · · Score: 1

    Right now I can download a file off the web and drop it onto my 'drive'. I can now get to this file from all my pc's, tablets, and phone. Backup and sync seems to be just for one machine and separates the machines. So I think we have lost the sharing functionality Any thoughts?