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Moving Every Half Hour Could Help Limit Effects of Sedentary Lifestyle, Says Study (theguardian.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: Moving your body at least every half an hour could help to limit the harmful effects of desk jobs and other sedentary lifestyles, research has revealed. The study found that both greater overall time spent inactive in a day, and longer periods of inactivity were linked to an increased risk of death. Writing in the journal the Annals of Internal Medicine, Diaz and colleagues from seven U.S. institutions describe how they kitted out nearly 8,000 individuals aged 45 or over from across the U.S. with activity trackers between 2009 and 2013. Each participant wore the fitness tracker for at least four days during a period of one week, with deaths of participants tracked until September 2015. The results reveal that, on average, participants were inactive for 12.3 hours of a 16 hour waking day, with each period of inactivity lasting an average of 11.4 minutes. After taking into account a host of factors including age, sex, education, smoking and high blood pressure, the team found that both the overall length of daily inactivity and the length of each bout of sedentary behavior were linked to changes in the risk of death from any cause. The associations held even among participants undertaking moderate to vigorous physical activity.

Those who were inactive for 13.2 hours a day had a risk of death 2.6 times that of those spending less than 11.5 hours a day inactive, while those whose bouts of inactivity lasted on average 12.4 minutes or more had a risk of death almost twice that of those who were inactive for an average of less than 7.7 minutes at a time. The team then looked at the interaction between the two measures of inactivity, finding the risk of death was greater for those who had both high overall levels of inactivity (12.5 hours a day or more) and long average bouts of sedentary behavior (10 minutes or more), than for those who had high levels of just one of the measures.

98 comments

  1. I like to move it move it by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I keep the dark chocolate covered prunes, cigarettes, and 15 year-old scotch on the other side of the house, so I have to get up once every half-hour.

    By the way, if you've never tried dark chocolate covered prunes, you don't know what you're missing.

    https://youtu.be/vuo8kD5zF5I

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    1. Re:I like to move it move it by jandersen · · Score: 2

      By the way, if you've never tried dark chocolate covered prunes, you don't know what you're missing.

      Hmm, let me guess: dark chocolate gives you palpitations and sleeplessness, whereas prunes give you diarrhea. Am I on the right track?

    2. Re:I like to move it move it by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      But how are the dark-chocolate-covered cigarettes? Seems like a waste of chocolate. As for the 15-year-old Scotch, I imagine it pairing well with the chocolate, but for a liqueur I'd use a younger batch.

  2. I'll be facetious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not being sedentary can improve limit effects of a sedentary lifestyle.

    1. Re:I'll be facetious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So...just roll over every 30 minutes?

  3. Whoa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #Rocketscience.

    1. Re: Whoa! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right on schedule.

      News for fatfucks.

  4. But what's the relative risk by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being twice as likely to die doesn't provide a lot of meaningful information, especially when the raw percentage chance is low. Based on information linked in the study, only about 4% of the study population died over the time period of the study. The only information is that the study was of adults at least 45 years of age so although that may seem high, I'd really want to know what the age distribution is as that could be within expectations for their participants.

    Regardless of that, it suggests that even if you are less active (and therefore twice as likely to die) your odds of death still aren't very high in an absolute sense.

    1. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      If you're less active you know and understand the risks of this lifestyle, and accept that death may be the result. Most people are willing to trade a slightly higher risk of death for the better life that they are able to lead by being sedentary and drinking and eating too much. I know I am. I might lose a few years at the end of my life, but they'll be the worst ones anyway that you spend in a nursing home shitting all over yourself and being wiped by $9/hr kids with nose rings and tattoos.

    2. Re:But what's the relative risk by morcego · · Score: 4, Informative

      That would be an average of aprox. 1% on the low sedentary time/low sedentary bolt end, and about 5% on the high sedentary time/low sedentary bolt end. (Legend: Adjusted cumulative mortality according to joint associations of total sedentary time and prolonged, uninterrupted sedentary bouts).

      There paper is much more complete, and is available at DOI: 10.7326/M17-0212 (http://annals.org/aim/article/2653704/patterns-sedentary-behavior-mortality-u-s-middle-a).

      Regardless, the paper is absolutely worth reading.

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    3. Re:But what's the relative risk by lucm · · Score: 1

      Regardless of that, it suggests that even if you are less active (and therefore twice as likely to die) your odds of death still aren't very high in an absolute sense.

      Interestingly, humans on average today are more active physically than wild animals. For instance, geese that embark on a 1500+ miles trip every year only fly for a few minutes every day in the months before. They move less than us but they are more fit, and they don't take multivitamins and kale smoothies.

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    4. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be an average of aprox. 1% on the low sedentary time/low sedentary bolt end, and about 5% on the high sedentary time/low sedentary bolt end. (Legend: Adjusted cumulative mortality according to joint associations of total sedentary time and prolonged, uninterrupted sedentary bouts).

      There paper is much more complete, and is available at DOI: 10.7326/M17-0212 (http://annals.org/aim/article/2653704/patterns-sedentary-behavior-mortality-u-s-middle-a).

      Regardless, the paper is absolutely worth reading.

      Paywalled - got another link? Abstract looked interesting - would like to see their multivariate analysis in-depth.

    5. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This. Even the study pointed it out.

      Actual moving around can easily be constrained to once an hour.
      Jump or jog on the spot for 5 minutes every hour. Done.
      This is enough to cycle your gut, vibrate your blood vessels and major organs, cycle cerebrospinal fluid and just generally get your heart-rate up. Of course, you can keep your heart-rate up at a desk if you consciously tweak your muscles regularly, or do simple exhaustive mental exercises while waiting, if you don't have time for either, your heart-rate is likely already up enough.

      DIET is more important in your long-term survival than any other factor.
      Eating shit processed foods, consuming too much sugar and not using it (using it the key part!), eating carcinogenic foods, eating massively over-cooked foods (especially starchy ones), using cheapo shit vegetable oils that have low smoke points in cooking, etc.
      All of these things build up and choke you to a slow, eventual death in a literal and figurative sense.
      More to the point, simply eating too much as well. Humans can go long periods without eating. 3 meals a day IS too much. We never ate like that in the wild. Fasting periods between eating are literally a feature of our bodies. They lead to a recycle and repair of damaged cells to optimize every useful nutrient in the body.
      Regular 2 day fasts can be a massive boost to your health. Even try it once a month.

    6. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd put odds of death right around 100% no matter what.

    7. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "death may be the result." Where as people who exercise will NOT die. That is great news! Im gonna live forever!

    8. Re:But what's the relative risk by zifn4b · · Score: 1

      Being twice as likely to die doesn't provide a lot of meaningful information

      Oh being twice as likely to die sooner isn't the worst of it all. You will be in a world of chronic pain towards the end of it in the form of arthritis and tight, shortened muscles. This will prevent you from sleeping. That's not even counting the issues from internal organs that will be exacerbated. I'd rather be active to have a lot less pain. It's not about living longer necessarily. I'm hoping when I go it will be sudden so I'm not aware of it rather than being in chronic pain and agony.

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    9. Re:But what's the relative risk by gnick · · Score: 1

      I might lose a few years at the end of my life, but they'll be the worst ones anyway...

      Depending on your health, those "worst years" might start younger than you're planning on.

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    10. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Miles Monroe: "Where am I, anyhow? I mean, what happened to everybody? Where are all my friends?"
      Dr. Aragon: "You must understand that everyone you knew in the past has been dead nearly two hundred years."
      Miles Monroe: "But they all ate organic rice!"

    11. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This headline is crap. Moving every half hour would result in getting very little REM sleep. The negative effects of that would more than offset any gains from the reduction of sedentary behavior.

    12. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And there are no guarantees even for active people. Who hasn't heard of someone who regularly exercises dieing of a heart attack? Or someone who smokes living till their 95? A certain amount of longevity is genetics, I think.

    13. Re:But what's the relative risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I always argued with my mom.

      How do we know that living longer doesn't cause people to eat more vegetables?

    14. Re:But what's the relative risk by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      Sad part is you still get those, the lost ones come out of the middle.

    15. Re:But what's the relative risk by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Geese may not fly more than 5 minutes a day, but they're certainly still active, either walking or swimming in search of food for good bits of the day. Which I guess correlates well to, "You don't have to go jogging for hours, just get up and move around a bit."

    16. Re:But what's the relative risk by mfnickster · · Score: 1

      It's just not practical for me to move every half hour. That's not enough time for me to pack and unpack everything, let alone rent a U-Haul.

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    17. Re:But what's the relative risk by snakeplissken · · Score: 1

      Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or... hot fudge?
      Dr. Aragon: Those were thought to be unhealthy... precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.

  5. Smoke Break! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You're all thinking it...

    1. Re:Smoke Break! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      smokes on the porch, kitchen with the snacks and beer on the other side of the house. gaming battlestation and big screen tv in the middle. we got this.

  6. Even better by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    If you can move around for about 30 minutes, every half hour or so, you'll be much less likely to die

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    1. Re:Even better by lucm · · Score: 1

      If you can move around for about 30 minutes, every half hour or so, you'll be much less likely to die

      And as a bonus, the motion-activated lights always stay on, so you are no longer interrupted by disrupting periods of darkness.

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      lucm, indeed.
    2. Re:Even better by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It works the other way round too: if you don't die, you're more likely to move around. Win win!

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re:Even better by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Woah - mind. blown.

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  7. Work "flow" is inversely proportional to health? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Certainly there should be a way to enhance one's health without constantly interrupting one's train of thought? The solutions suggested by these studies are non-starters.

  8. ppl who move are less likely to die of not moving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whoda thunk it

  9. I'm betting all had a risk of death of 100% by SensitiveMale · · Score: 1

    no matter how much exercise each one did.

  10. Why did we get this discount? by aliquis · · Score: 1

    I kinda read parts of the summery but it doesn't seem like once every 30 minutes isn't enough at all?

    More like once every ~5? ..

    And for how long? Is it enough to fetch a cup of tea in the room beside or ..

    1. Re:Why did we get this discount? by chipschap · · Score: 2

      It indeed seems like a lot left to the imagination. 12 minutes is a "long" period of inactivity and 7 is "short"? There is a lot of implied precision here which I wonder if the stats fully bear out to a meaningful level of confidence.

      I thought I was doing well with the Pomodoro method (in my implementation, 25 minutes of work, 5 minutes of getting up and walking around) but apparently I should be doing 7 minute work intervals?

      Perhaps the research is good, I haven't tried to review it in enough detail, but the numbers do stretch credibility a little.

    2. Re:Why did we get this discount? by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

      It indeed seems like a lot left to the imagination. 12 minutes is a "long" period of inactivity and 7 is "short"? There is a lot of implied precision here which I wonder if the stats fully bear out to a meaningful level of confidence.

      I thought I was doing well with the Pomodoro method (in my implementation, 25 minutes of work, 5 minutes of getting up and walking around) but apparently I should be doing 7 minute work intervals?

      Ironically, smokers may be getting some benefit after all :-) ... I leave me desk and walk down three flights to smoke for 5 minutes (vaping these days, though), then walk back up 3 flights. This happens roughly once every hour.

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    3. Re:Why did we get this discount? by gnick · · Score: 1

      I leave me desk and walk down three flights to smoke for 5 minutes...

      If it weren't for cigarettes, what excuse would I have to go get fresh air?

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      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    4. Re:Why did we get this discount? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      If it weren't for cigarettes, what excuse would I have to go get fresh air?

      My higher pulse of looking at girls make me work better and a happier employee?

    5. Re:Why did we get this discount? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > My higher pulse of looking at girls make me work better and a happier employee?

      Ah yes, I look at the young ladies and my tachycardia increases.

      Then I remember how old I am, and take my blood pressure pills. :-P

  11. Re:Restroom Break by lucm · · Score: 1

    And this is well in line with my going to the restroom to jack off once or twice an hour to "release stress"

    Nothing better for a relaxing jack off session than the sweet fragrance of multiple poop essences all dancing together in the air like the elusive light of aurora borealis

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    lucm, indeed.
  12. 13.2 hours of inactive? by n329619 · · Score: 1

    13.2 - 8 hours sleep - 3 hours (breackfast, lunch, dinner) - 1 hour (bathroom) = 1.2 hours of inactive remaining

    and that hasn't even count the 1 hour meetings or other inactive stuff people do in their 9to5 schedule.

    1. Re:13.2 hours of inactive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It says 13.2 hours of a 16 hour waking day. The 8 hours sleep are not counted.

    2. Re:13.2 hours of inactive? by myid · · Score: 2

      I think the number 13.2 is reasonable. For one thing, sleep time isn't counted as part of the time for inactivity. The article says,

      ... participants were inactive for 12.3 hours of a 16 hour waking day ...

      (The article says "12.3" for the average number of inactive hours, and then compares the health results of "13.2" to 11.5.)

      Also I don't think most people sit down for an hour for each meal.

    3. Re:13.2 hours of inactive? by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Also I don't think most people sit down for an hour for each meal.

      With my kids, I'm lucky if I can make it 5 minutes without needing to get up and do something in the middle of the meal.

  13. Gee... imagine that. by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not being sedentary can limit the effects of being sedentary.

    (sigh)

    I am reminded of the Tautology club, where the first rule of the tautology club was the first rule of the tautology club.

    1. Re:Gee... imagine that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am reminded of the Tautology club, where the first rule of the tautology club was the first rule of the tautology club.

      Recursion, n. : see 'recursion'

      This message brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.

    2. Re:Gee... imagine that. by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      I am reminded of the Tautology club, where the first rule of the tautology club was the first rule of the tautology club.

      Not quite. A sedentary life style isn't defined as having to sit perfectly still. You can still be sedentary while doing a small amount of movement every half an hour. The key here is that little bit helps.

    3. Re:Gee... imagine that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the second rule of the tautology club?

    4. Re:Gee... imagine that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > What's the second rule of the tautology club?

      "Rule #1 comes first."

    5. Re:Gee... imagine that. by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Rephrasing the headline, it says simply that movement reduces the effects of a lack of movement. While that might not quite be a tautology, it might be about the nest closest thing to one.

  14. My old body wants to physically move. by antdude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used to be able to sit for hours, but not anymore after getting older. I noticed my body no longer wants to idle. It want to move around a lot. Also, my health had been degrading so I need to exercise too.

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    1. Re: My old body wants to physically move. by Dmitri_Yuriescu · · Score: 1

      Same here. But still takes me about half an hour to start concentrating.

    2. Re:My old body wants to physically move. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I advise copious amounts of weed. Body stops wanting to move, mind stops worrying about exercise. And just to preempt "but health/age": Willie Nelson.

    3. Re:My old body wants to physically move. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's exactly my situation. When I was young I've been working long hours sitting in front of a computer, having no idea what that will do to my body. I thought being active during the weekend will be enough. Nowadays, with four herniated spine disks, I know better; unfortunately, a little too late..

  15. Simpsons called it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lionel Hutz, "First, some ground rules. Number one: We get bathroom breaks every half hour."

  16. Or maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you haven't moved for the last half hour you're probably dead, or dying. Seriously, did they take into consideration that sick people exercise less?

  17. Re:Restroom Break by epine · · Score: 1

    And this is well in line with my going to the restroom to jack off once or twice an hour to "release stress"

    Regular pipe maintenance is also associated with a decrease in all-cause male mortality.

    Way up in the sky /
    Puzzling to my tiny eye /
    Ablation of my risk to die.
    Only now I ponder why /
    Lofting spunk lifeboats spry.

    Also, be sure to order the self-winding activity tracker rather than the regular coin cell job—unless you're a dab hand with small tools.

  18. Please tell me what "Desk Job" allows one to sit.. by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ....at less less than 12 minute intervals.  It takes me 5 minutes just to get back "into" my job after getting up for another coffee.  I routinely sit for 55 minutes at a stretch, anything less, and my productivity suffers dramatically.

  19. Not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The medical profession has known for decades that the body wasn't meant to be stationary. Yet bosses have been shoving us into car/bus/plane seats and office chairs for an increasing number of hours over the decades, without complaint from federal departments of health or workplace safety. The paperless office means there is no reason to leave the office chair: No documents to file, forms to deliver, or printer to feed. Sometimes, even workplace 'conversations' are conducted by email; no movement required. Yet another reason people why people are less healthy today.

  20. Work: it'll kill you by mveloso · · Score: 1

    Can I sue my workplaces for being unhealthy? This is just as bad as asbestos or black lung!

    1. Re:Work: it'll kill you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember watching this documentary on sweatshops in third world countries. The women were made to work in a sunny room with air conditioners, windows, bottled water at their feet, with everyone working silently on rows of sewing machines.

      I've seen some offices where the air conditioning either didn't work, leaving rooms to have stale air, the curtains and blinds were kept closed over the windows to keep sunlght out and not distract the workers, with laser printers centred in the middle of each cluster of desks.

  21. Re:Please tell me what "Desk Job" allows one to si by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

    Get a standing desk, so you can focus on your work while allowing your body parts to move around. I've had one for a few years and it was a kind of revelation -- I love computers, but I hate sitting still. While standing, people don't generally stay in a fixed position for very long, so a standing desk forces you to do all kinds of natural movements.

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  22. especially effective when moving for 30' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move 30' every 30' and get immediate health benefits :)

    1. Re: especially effective when moving for 30' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's easy. I bought a treadmill and put it under my desk. The key is to keep it on all day, but at a low setting. And to keep your chairs wheels lubricated so the treadmill doesn't make them squeak from the constant motion.

  23. correlation only? by hunter44102 · · Score: 1

    How do they know that people that sit more are just not as healthy in the first place? What proof is there that a person that sits a lot would live longer if he got up every 30 minutes? My dad is 85 and healthy and and has always spent a lot of time sitting and reading and resting.

    1. Re:correlation only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also a balance between calorie consumption, eating natural vs. processed foods, and getting regular exercise. Your dad probably eats healthy food, goes for a daily 30 minute walk, as well as resting. That's the difference.

    2. Re: correlation only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what of all these exercise health nuts who are young and look perfectly fine, then suddenly fall over dead from stroke or some other unexplained reason?

    3. Re:correlation only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can't be sure. While correlation doesn't imply causation, it does suggest that there just might be a link.

      In this case what do you suggest they do? A study where they force people to be sedentary or frequently move over a period of years?

      Maybe your dad moves a lot more than you realise, maybe there is something in his genetic make-up which means he doesn't need to move about as much as others to stay healthy or maybe he is just lucky. There are a number of alternative explanations that could explain your dad while this is still true. Or there could be an alternative reason for the correlation. While we can't be sure it is probably best to assume this is true while it is studied further.

  24. Twice as likely to die?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can somebody explain a 2.0 probability of dying?

    1. Re:Twice as likely to die?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Can somebody explain a 2.0 probability of dying?

      <shrug> You only live twice...

  25. Being born has the biggest risk of death by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    Being born has the biggest risk of death

    1. Re:Being born has the biggest risk of death by neo-mkrey · · Score: 1

      almost 100%

  26. Risk of death is already 100% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No matter what lifestyle you lead, your risk of death is 100%. Yes, that's right, 100%. Why isn't this simple fact a headline story?

    1. Re:Risk of death is already 100% by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      There are 7 billion reasons why you're wrong.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  27. Sitting is the new smoking by sugapablo · · Score: 1

    Hopefully we won't ban sitting in bars anytime soon.

  28. Re:Please tell me what "Desk Job" allows one to si by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    It takes me 5 minutes just to get back "into" my job after getting up for another coffee.

    That may be specific to your style. I often think best when moving so when solving some complex problem I go and get coffee, or go to the bathroom and think about it while on the way.

    The trick is not getting distracted by conversation.

  29. Re:Do they never get tired of making and publishin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's a bit more shaded than just "exercise is good". Maybe some people don't have the motivation do do significant exercise, but finding out that just getting up for a quick stretch or walk round the room periodically has significant benefits, they might consider that something they can handle, and be motivated to do it. Just because you've given up on your fat ass and are resigned to an early death doesn't mean everyone else is.

  30. Half an hour? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

    I'm curious why the key number in headline is half an hour, since TFS mentions "10 minutes", "12 minutes", numbers like that.

    Does the headline writer think we have 20 minute hours?

    Did TFS writer manage to misquote TFA?

    Or did whatever standards body controls this sort of thing redefine the hour when I wasn't looking? It would certainly be nice if our 8 hour workday was redefined down to 160 minutes or so. And think of the paychecks if we work the usual amount of time and get paid for 24 (20 minute) hours every day!

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  31. It's true and here is how I handle it. by wjcofkc · · Score: 2

    I am self-employed and work from home. I started working at around 4:00am work and work until 7:00pm. For the longest time I had myself deskbound most of the day. It started to catch up with me in the form of aches, pains, and fatigue. I am not getting any younger and knew I was setting myself up for trouble. Solution? I pick up my bass several times a day and play the most demanding bass lines until I sweat. The playing bass not only helps me physically, but clears up my thought process. This has increased my productivity and overall well being. Also, I am considering a standing desk, as long as it is convertible.

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    1. Re:It's true and here is how I handle it. by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      I hate to reply to myself, but I also take Slashdot breaks. Not physical activity, but switching mental gears has also proven to be a great help.

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    2. Re:It's true and here is how I handle it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to consider slashdot a break. There used to be some mental stimulation. Now it is so few and far between that hunting for signal in so much noise has an adverse affect on my mental state.

    3. Re:It's true and here is how I handle it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take work breaks in between reading every comment on /. it's hard work looking busy at real work but worth it for the quality of comments posted here these days.

    4. Re:It's true and here is how I handle it. by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      Moving around or not, 15-hour work days will take a toll. Unless you already take 7 hours worth of breaks, of course.

  32. A standing desk is worth it by nickjj · · Score: 1

    I've been using a standing desk for about 18 months and it's really good to break up sitting sessions.

    I stand for about 12 hours a day, but it's not just standing in place. Standing naturally gives you a reason to be active. You can easily stretch your legs and move around. Sometimes after completing a programming task or similar, I'll just shadow box for 30 seconds because "why not".

    If anyone is curious, here's how I built my standing desk for about $50 https://nickjanetakis.com/blog....

  33. Re:Do they never get tired of making and publishin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. It's a quest to determine how much exercise and when are the bare minimum to keep people healthy, without any more work than is absolutely necessary. Give the people what they want!

  34. This does work by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    When I play a matchmaking game like Mech Warrior Online I do push ups or sit ups between each match for like 2 minutes and it actually does help. It reduced my back problems, helped my energy level, etc.

  35. "Twice as likely to die" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being twice as like to die is entirely meaningless without proper context. On its own, that's just as valuable as saying that we're *all* going to die.

  36. No science needed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't really like these studies, because people who don't move at all might have a worse lifestyle in general, maybe they are already overweight. That's the problem with our studies nowadays.

  37. Good news by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    This is the first good news since a few years back a study showed nominally in-shape people (e.g. jogging wise) suffered as much heart disease as couch potatoes if they just sat around at work and home when done exercising.

    Now you have to have a standing, if not treadmill desk.

    So...very very good news.

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  39. Re:Do they never get tired of making and publishin by Bengie · · Score: 1

    There was another /. from a long while back that said walking every 1.5-2hr for 10-15min showed reduced heart issues over those who exercised more and did proper cardio, but only after work. If there's anything I learned, it's moderation. You don't need a lot of exercise, you just need to get some here and there throughout the day.

  40. Another way to more than counter it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is to start a barbell strength training program.

    google Starting Strength for more info.

  41. REAL guidelines by Orgasmatron · · Score: 1

    The real guidelines can be found here. The core (for adults):

    • All adults should avoid inactivity. Some physical activity is better than none, and adults who participate in any amount of physical activity gain some health benefits.
    • For substantial health benefits, adults should do at least 150 minutes (2 hours and 30 minutes) a week of moderate-intensity, or 75 minutes (1 hour and 15 minutes) a week of vigorous-intensity aerobic physical activity, or an equivalent combination of moderate- and vigorous-intensity aerobic activity. Aerobic activity should be performed in episodes of at least 10 minutes, and preferably, it should be spread throughout the week.
    • For additional and more extensive health benefits, adults should increase their aerobic physical activity to 300 minutes (5 hours) a week of moderate-intensity, or 150 minutes a week of vigorous-intensity aerobic physical activity, or an equivalent combination of moderate- and vigorous-intensity activity. Additional health benefits are gained by engaging in physical activity beyond this amount.
    • Adults should also do muscle-strengthening activities that are moderate or high intensity and involve all major muscle groups on 2 or more days a week, as these activities provide additional health benefits.

    TL;DR -

    If you are completely inactive, change that ASAP. If you can only take 5 steps at a brisk pace, take 5 steps today, then tomorrow try for 6 and keep increasing until you are walking 10 minutes twice each day.

    If you are somewhat active, keep track of your time each week and increase it until you reach a minimum of 150 minutes. Then seriously consider increasing it to 300 minutes.

    Also, everyone, everyone should lift weights. Do compound lifts (squat, deadlift, bench press, upright press, barbell row, power cleans, etc) using free weights (not machines). If you are an absolute beginner, get a copy of Starting Strength (highly recommended by just about everyone) or google StrongLifts which is possibly a knock-off, and possibly inferior in some trivial way. Go to ExRx right now and bookmark it, you'll refer back to it often, I promise.

    Alternative to daily walking (you might need to walk a little once a week to fill in the minutes) - The hacker diet exercise plan (based on 5BX).

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