Trump Administration Sued Over Phone Searches at US Borders (reuters.com)
The Trump administration has engaged in an unconstitutional practice of searching without a warrant the phones and laptops of Americans who are stopped at the border, a lawsuit filed on Wednesday alleged. From a report: Ten U.S. citizens and one lawful permanent resident sued the Department of Homeland Security in federal court, saying the searches and prolonged confiscation of their electronic devices violate privacy and free speech protections of the U.S. Constitution. DHS could not be immediately reached for comment. The lawsuit comes as the number of searches of electronic devices has surged in recent years, alarming civil rights advocates.
I'd love for this to succeed, but they'll need to go to the Supreme Court and challenge the disastrous "The Constitution doesn't apply at the border, near airports, within 100 miles of a Starbucks, etc." ruling. No chance in hell.
There really was no reason to even mention Trump in this story, perhaps other than to say that he hasn't stopped the practice. By doing so, the writers have derailed the conversation from the start. It's destined to turn into a political shit-flinging contest now.
What does this have to do with Trump Administration, is the Donald searching these phones personally? Is DHS doing something they have never done before solely on orders from Trump? I guess you gotta put 'Trump' in the headline for them clicks
Gonna go with ICE and DHS being under the Executive branch of the government, of which Trump is the titular head?
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I call bullshit. For the past 8 years, every story related to the government was about "...the Obama administration...". So now that it's Trump, nobody's allowed to say Trump?
He's not saying it's not allowed, he's saying it's counterproductive to gratuitously invoke it (just as it was with Obama). Besides, with all the stupid shit Trump actually does, why dilute it with this inappropriate use?
I call bullshit. For the past 8 years, every story related to the government was about "...the Obama administration...". So now that it's Trump, nobody's allowed to say Trump?
No, back then they blamed it on "homeland security", or other departments, not "The Obama Administration".
https://www.dailydot.com/layer...
http://www.allgov.com/news/top...
Can you honestly say that you think this story today would not have been blamed directly on Trump?
http://www.salon.com/2012/04/0...
And that's something that happened so long ago that I don't know if anyone even remembers who the idiot was who thought that was either a good idea, or consistent with the constitution.
That probably because someone argued that had nothing to do with any specific president.
This has nothing to do with any specific president.
See, just like that.
Look if facts and history and reasons aren't important to you that's fine, that's your right. But leave others alone when they want to point them out. Otherwise we start to get all the "but that happened so long ago" bullshit.
The Constitution is the controlling authority of the relationship between the citizens and the federal government.. This means that non-citizens only have rights that we voluntarily give them when they get here (which is more descriptive of what actually happens anyway), and American citizens should enjoy the full protections of their citizenship ANYWHERE in the world (unlike now).
AS far as enforcing their laws elsewhere, they already do.
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Captcha = confused
Border checkpoints within the actual border or international airports within the borders aren't "technically still outside the country". They're absolutely within the country. Could you imagine a group of scary-looking Muslims holding meetings in the "not in the US, yet" zone of LAX and the US letting it happen?
They're only "technically still outside the country" because they want to illegally fuck your rights.
You listed two choices, then mentioned three choices. Did you change your mind and remove the obvious and correct choice of the Constitution delineating the powers of the federal government (regardless of where it is acting or upon whom it is acting) while guaranteeing all other rights to the states and the people?
The Constitution applies within US borders, always. The Constitution applies to US citizens, always. If it is at odds with the law where a US citizen is, then treaties come into play as they are the only laws that are ranked as highly as the Constitution. The Constitution applies to what the federal government does, always and everywhere.
"sense of discretion"?
Does that mean the searches are ok and don't deserve notice as long as the President, who has no possible way to oversee the choices of who gets searched, uses discretion?
I personally believe that DHS should search through every single phone that comes through the border, with agents mocking all the selfies an vacation pics, while rubbing themselves when there are pics of hot chics. Maybe then, Americans would finally wake up to how unprofessional, un-Constitutional, and utterly disgusting warrantless searches are.
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