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GNOME 3.26 Released (betanews.com)
BrianFagioli shares a report from BetaNews: Today, GNOME 3.26 codenamed "Manchester" sees release. It is chock full of improvements, such as a much-needed refreshed settings menu, enhanced search, and color emoji! Yes, Linux users like using the silly symbols too! "System search has been improved for GNOME 3.26. Results have an updated layout which makes them easier to read and shows more items at once. Additionally, it's now possible to search for system actions, including power off, suspend, lock screen, log out, switch user and orientation lock. (Log out and switch user only appear if there's more than one user. Orientation lock is only available if the device supports automatic screen rotation.) These search features can be accessed in the usual way: click Activities and type into the search box, or simply press 'super' and start typing," says the GNOME Project. The full release notes are available here.
Does it have a rain screensaver? After all, it always rains in Manchester
If you gave me a choice between a printer and a giraffe with explosive diarrhoea, i'll get my ladder and my raincoat
Is the default theme dull and grey?
Only one good thing ever came our of Manchester
And that's the M62 to bring you back to God's Own County
No word on performance? Gnome 3.24 is so slow on my i5 with HD 4000 on wayland and xfree.
Be or ben't
Oh wow, that's SUCH important improvement that I can hardly contain my excitement! It's okay that the rest of the desktop-environment sucks ass as long as I get my emojis!
to reach common system settings, tasks and applications? it's so fucking non-productive and counter-intuitive, having to type that shit out just to find the shit, when the old click-click-done worked so well before.
GNOME Terminal introduced a new escape sequence that allows arbitrary text to become a hyperlink, pretty much like <a> tags on webpages. The same feature is also available in iTerm2's beta series as well as Tilix. Hope some of you will find it truly useful!
As the first "official" tool to utilize this, coreutils-8.28 introduced "ls --hyperlinks". Filenames are linked to their corresponding "file://" URI, and ctrl+click conveniently opens them in their preferred graphical application.
Makes me want to vomit. It is simply a mobile phone desktop.
People would not use that in a work environment even I would prefer to use Windows 7 then to use that mobile phone desktop.
Am I getting old? or are these people just fuck up.
Go home gnome3
Bring back the old gnome where everything was sensible and didn't try to re-invent itself *against* tried and tested UI layouts.
All 3 did was take a massive shit on the UI and it's been shit ever since.
"Log out and switch user only appear if there's more than one user."
Um, so I can't log out unless someone else is already logged in? How does someone else get a login prompt then? Stop removing shit!
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
It's closer to "news for nerds" than 99% of the rest this site offers these days, be happy with what little you get.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Why can't all these UI idiots face facts. The desktop was perfectly usable two decades ago.
All they've done since then is continually waste time reinventing the wheel. And each time it gets worse, less usable, and more of a complete PITA to get your actual work done.
Only 5 year olds are impressed by whirring, popping up, animated things. If there's a working file manager, a way to adjust settings, and a way to launch programs easily then your job is done ! Now go and do somethng USEFUL with your time. Wtite some decent APPLICATIONS.
But no. These retarded clowns will spend the rest of eternity chaging pixel shading, dumbing things down and genrally pissing off what used to be their users. This week we've made the file manager circular with green icons... two months later..... now we've made the file manager triangular with all new pink icons.... two months later... now the file manager is oval with yellow icons... Rinse and repeat until the end of time.
I hope GNOME dies in a fire.
This thread will now be full of people with fuck all else to do with their lives who want a window manager/DE they can just tweak all day long. Meanwhile, Gnome is great for those of us who actually work on their computers. It makes it simple and quick to open/switch apps and stays out the way the rest of the time.
Seriously, guys, there's a whole world of window managers you can play with. Let's have *one* for the workers.
It's too fat to jump the shark!
You know, the underlines showing the hotkeys in the alt+space window menu? Do they work again?
And why did you break them in the first place? Linux already is sucking in basic functionality like a clipboard that should work in _ALL_ programs. The partly missing semaphores are yet another basic feature.
Just like RedHat, the other cancer.
nothing useful to do rather than post nonsense (like the system menu above... wtf?!). Don't like it, use something different. Stop being lazy and get on with your lives.
So there's time for this shit but no time for a decent file manager ?
.3 being the last version with a bunch of the configuration settings I use. Depending on your OGL libraries/running compositing it can be a leaky fucker though.
WindowMaker on the other hand is still basically the same as when I used it in 1997 on Slackware 3.0. The three big differences being the visible task switcher when alt-tabbing, the dynamic menu support (was still static back in those days), and the truetype font support (originally supported only bitmaped/type 1 fonts until freetype was safe/reliable to use.)
I generally use e17 on my gaming system since it provides an integrated frame rate meter when compositing is enabled, and WindowMaker everywhere else. WM is pretty good about recovering if the window manager crashes, and restoring windows more or less to the same positions they were before the crash. E17 isn't quite as good about that, although most of the time it does as well.
Having said that: No full DE has offered benefits over those two WMs in a good 10 years. About the only control panel feature that makes a full DE worth is is the lm-sensors plugins so you can monitor a half dozen temperatures at the same time. Other than that, it is all fluff and bloat eroding the usability and performance of my system.
Maybe once machine learning gets good enough there will be other benefits to all that candy, in the form of extra intelligent search capabilities or what have you, but at the moment it seems to mostly be a circle jerk for SJW/UI design types and usability experts who wouldnt' know usability if you stabled it to their yuppie/hipster asses.
I mean, for people that want to code, or browse or watch a film, maybe do some multitasking why choose GNOME over anything else?
Is it easy to use and customise? Is it fast? Is it stable? Does it need a fuckton of dependencies and forces unnecessary shit on users?
System search?! Emoji?? - what the fuck are these people doing?
Once upon a time GNOME was clean, fast and simply didnt get in the way of doing shit. KDE was a slower but was very shiny. These days they both suck.
If I wanted a horrifically bloated "flat" interface with seven layers of buried shit menus I'd just use Windows 10.
A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
all Linux desktops suck
Ever heard of xfce? Spoiler alert: it doesn't suck.
We miss you so much!
With admiration, a former GNOME user.
After all these years, the only thing that has ever made me question my decision to have a Linux desktop is Gnome 3. Had it been the case that Gnome 3 was the only desktop for Linux I would probably have stopped using Linux in the desktop altogether - even Windows seems to be an attractive option, in comparison (almost, not quite). Fortunately, we do not have to eat that dog food.
i3 rules
No love?
Sorry, Gnome, MATE, Cinnabunz or whatever.. you can all suck it cause XFCE is the best!
It only deserves the name if it's gobby, egotistical and hates scousers. It should also be called Liam.
"GNOME 3.26 no longer shows status icons in the bottom-left of the screen. This prevents the status icon tray from getting in the way and is expected to provide a better overall experience." The status icon tray was not in the way at all, it was hidden in the lower left corner of the screen. And since the applications that uses the tray will assume that the tray is still there, I'm guessing that they will continue to run in the background without the user knowing?
According to Gnome developers, removing of the system tray is so insignificant, that it is not even worth mentioning in the short list of changes. It is mentioned at the end of the long list, outside of the bullet points.
This means that if you don't have the latest TopIcons extension already installed, a lot of programs that minimize to Status Bar will become inaccessible. That's mainly non-Gnome programs.
Gnome developers are trying to force application developers to not use the "pretty old" standard that "predated Gnome 2.0" and instead to use Gnome specific API's like their notification.
The big problem is that they do not seem to understand what is the purpose of the Status Bar, how people use it and why it exists in all Desktop platforms - Linux, Windows and Mac.
The Status Bar is for checking the status of an application, with single glance, without need for any actions from the user, like moving mouse to specific position on the screen, having to click, switch desktops or open the program window.
In comparison, notification are for signaling change or event. Their use is not only different, they also could be quite annoying and actively ignored.
Here are few more links to read:
https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/
https://lwn.net/Articles/732622/
I only use GNOME because KDE uses the nonfree Qt widget set.
dinner: it's what's for beer
It happened yesterday.
People still use Gnome.
Truly, it is a new era.
I don't think I could summarize it better than this: GNOME (et al): Rotting In Threes
when I relished the thought of a Gnome release because it meant something good was coming.
emojis? Gimme a break. If all you want is eye-candy, nothing ever surpassed enlightenment window manager.
change basic settings such as where the volume pop-up appears and for how long. That would have been trivial to change and well-documented in older window managers, but it sure as hell isn't in gnome.
I used to use Gnome back when it was powerful, customization, intuitive and easy to use. In other words, back when it didn't suck and before it jumped the shark. When the Gnome devs lost their collective minds I switched to Xfce and have been on that ever since. However, I miss the days when Gnome was great and would love to see the project actually listen to its users and steer itself back onto the track of sanity.
It makes me sad, reading the comments here, to realize we're still eons away from that ever happening. With Gnome continuing its campaign of being a dumbed-down exercise in frustration, and KDE being a visual clusterfuck, it's no wonder that Linux continues to struggle to get traction.
Bloaty. Resource-hog.
Remind you of anyone?
I'll admit I wasn't a fan of gnome 3 from the beginning, and it took a few years before it started to work well.. but these days it's working really well.
I actually enjoy using gnome... what is up with all this negative sentiment?
Note: Don't get me wrong I still can't live without type-ahead in nautilus and will probably have to patch it when I upgrade again, but all in all gnome is nice...
Get back to me when it's not a Red Hat project and has an interface designed for people who work on their computers instead of some braindead tablet-wannabe interface.
Long live Fluxbox and i3