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Bitcoin Plummets Below $3,000 on Rising China Worries (ft.com)

Bitcoin dropped below $3,000 on Friday as the cryptocurrency extended a brutal eight-day sell-off that has reduced its value against the dollar by a third. Financial Times reports: The currency traded as low as $2,972, marking a 36 per cent fall from bitcoin's close on September 7, and a collapse of 40 per cent from the highs struck earlier this month. The latest bout of selling came after BTCChina, one of the country's biggest bitcoin exchanges, said it would halt trading at the end of the month. Focus has now shifted to the communist country's other two big exchanges: OKCoin and Huobi. Alternative source.

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  1. Also... by Luthair · · Score: 4, Informative

    JP Morgan's CEO referred to bitcoin as a fraud, and made reference to tulips (the first recorded bubble).

    1. Re:Also... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "JP Morgan Chase & Co. is a U.S. multinational banking and financial services holding company headquartered in New York City." - Wikipedia

      Yeah, let's trust the guy trying to push a competing product. Let's also forget the bank bailouts where they squandered billions and were saved by the government anyway (i.e. with your taxes).

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    2. Re:Also... by Luthair · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly what do you think is competing here? If the banking industry thought these were viable, they'd be trading them and they'd be operating exchanges.

    3. Re:Also... by cdreimer · · Score: 2

      Bankers are indeed sleazy, but what does that say about the BTC market when even they think its sleazy?

      It means that the bankers haven't figured out how to get a piece of the BTC action. Once they get their cut, BTC will become legit in their eyes.

    4. Re:Also... by Luthair · · Score: 2

      Block chains existed before crypto-currencies and using one isn't an endorsement of other uses of the same technology.

    5. Re:Also... by Q-Hack! · · Score: 2

      It isn't so much as competing as it is fear of loosing control. JP Morgan Chase & Co. is part of the centralized banking system. They have a lot to lose if they can no longer influence the worlds monetary system.

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  2. Bitcoin's value is still up by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not only is Coindesk showing a rebound above USD$3400 but let's not forget that Bitcoin's value was only around USD$1000 at the beginning of january 2017. So it's still up 200% right now. That USD$5000 value was a bubble and it had to burst.

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    1. Re:Bitcoin's value is still up by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, because what I want from a currency is wild swings and the ability to speculate instead of hold value long-term. Honestly that sounds like a commodity, not a currency.

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    2. Re:Bitcoin's value is still up by WrongMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Worse... its a commodity that has no utility. I buy pork bellies, I can at least make bacon.

    3. Re:Bitcoin's value is still up by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bingo. If there's anything missing from my current economic experience, surely it must be having to check before I buy anything to see what my currency is actually worth today.

  3. Plunges... by PortHaven · · Score: 2

    Wait a minute????

    Wait a darn minute...

    I just bought like a $100 of bitcoin a couple months back. It was $1,500 a coin. How does something get labeled "plunging" when it's doubled in a mere few months.

    I would say, BitCoin as "dipped" back down under $3,000 showing some likely minor correction in the BitCoin market.

  4. Re:"percent" by mysidia · · Score: 4, Informative

    "percent" and "per cent" aren't the same thing, and this is especially grievous when talking about money.

    False. "Percent" literally means per 100 ( a fraction), and "Per cent" literally means per 100 ( a fraction). It is your "Per US cent" which is completely different, because now you are suddenly comparing it to units of a different currency.

  5. Bitcoin's been way up before and dropped 75% by perpenso · · Score: 2

    Lets also remember that a few years ago Bitcoin spiked to $1,1000 and then dropped to $250 and spent a couple years around there. Yes, people who bought around $1,000 are up in the long term, but more patient people who were cautious due to the spike and bought a year later at $250 are up 4x more than those who bought on the spike.

    The current spike to $5,000 looks a lot like the 2014 spike to $1,100. I am *not* saying we will see a similar $75% drop, merely that waiting to buy might be prudent and even at $3,400 we might still be at an overly enthusiastic level. We seem to currently be on the downward side of the spike, perhaps wait until things stabilize and prices are relatively flat before buying? Waiting on the scale of months not days?

  6. Don't conflate interest in blockchain with Bitcoin by perpenso · · Score: 2

    People sometimes conflate the commercial interest in blockchain technology with interest in Bitcoin. They are two very different things. Will blockchain be around in 20 years and be an important part of asset management and the financial industry, quite possibly. Will Bitcoin be around in 20 years, worth tens of thousands of dollars per coin or largely forgotten and worth $0.25 again? Who knows. Bitcoin could be easily displaced that far out. But on a timescale of a few years its got a decent chance to still be around.So maybe its OK for trading but not investing your passive retirement savings in.

    What we need is a car analogy. Blockchain is like the internal combustion engine. Bitcoin is like a particular automobile manufacturer. Is it a Maxwell, a former member of the top 3, a peer of General Motors and Ford, who went defunct in 1925, or is it a survivor like Ford? It could go either way. Bitcoin is just one of many consumer products based on a technology, a different product may suit consumer needs better, its only the technology that is likely to persist.

  7. Ob by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    1) Become member of Chinese equivalent of Politburo.
    2) Short bitcoin
    3) ????
    4) Profit!!!!!

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  8. Re:Eventually governments are going to crack down by thechemic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can get a shift card, a bitpay card, and dozens of other debit style cards tied to your bitcoin. I mine bitcoin at home, and then I spend it EVERYWHERE AND ANYWHERE THAT VISA/MASTERCARD ARE ACCEPTED. I just bought lunch with bitcoin today. A couple days ago I bought a headset from best buy using bitcoin. I also paid my $1300 electric bill with bitcoin. I pay my car insurance with bitcoin.

    Because mining produces FAR MORE money that the electricity costs, everything I bought with bitcoin was essentially free. If you truly believe that bitcoin is only for illegal things, you've got your head in the sand or otherwise somewhere where the sun don't shine.

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  9. Re:Meanwhile... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    Bullets are the part that come out the barrel.

    You're thinking of shells.

    The really tricky part are the primers. Bullets are easy to cast, as long as you're willing to use solid lead and limit velocities.

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