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Flush With Cash: Swiss Toilets Mysteriously Stuffed With 500-Euro Bills (npr.org)

Someone in the Swiss city of Geneva has been trying to flush tens of thousands of euros down toilets. From a report: The bathrooms at a branch of the UBS bank in Geneva, as well as in three nearby restaurants, had pipes stuffed with 500-euro bills that had apparently been cut up with scissors and flushed down the toilets. The mysterious misplaced funds were first reported by a Swiss newspaper, and local authorities have confirmed the incident to multiple media outlets. Each individual bill is worth nearly $600. Collectively, the destroyed bank notes were worth tens of thousands of dollars. The Geneva Prosecutor's Office tells Bloomberg it has launched an investigation into the bathroom bills. Switzerland is not in the European Union, although it is entirely surrounded by EU member countries, and the nation's currency is the Swiss franc.

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  1. And nobody has asked by taustin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    if it's maybe a failed test run by a currency counterfeiter?

    Really?

    1. Re: And nobody has asked by gman003 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Could have been going there to try to deposit them or exchange them, converting them to "real" money, and got cold feet at the last second.

    2. Re:And nobody has asked by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's because the Central European Bank, which issues these notes, has said it is going to phase them out by 2018 due to suspected high levels of illegal activity. As on of the highest value bank notes in the world they found favour with criminals.

      As such anyone who has them needs to take them to a bank to be exchanged. I guess whoever is doing this has a load of notes they can't legitimately exchange and is trying to dispose of them. My guess would be that they were in a safety deposit box or something in the bank, and that person didn't want to risk trying to walk out with a briefcase full of cash so tried to flush them.

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    3. Re: And nobody has asked by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      If he got cold feet, he should have burned the cash for heat.

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    4. Re: And nobody has asked by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Could have been going there to try to deposit them or exchange them, converting them to "real" money, and got cold feet at the last second.

      And so he stuck around, cut up the bills, and flushed them down the toilet at the bank ... and then walked to three nearby restaurants and did the same thing?

      Not saying it's not possible -- people do weird things under pressure -- but it sure doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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    5. Re: And nobody has asked by istartedi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Because he's an insider at the bank, working with his partners to test the bills. The insider was using the bank's counterfeit detection machinery to see which bills would work. These were detected, so he disposed of them.

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    6. Re:And nobody has asked by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      In Switzerland you can pay with Euro on most places. And have bank account in Euro ...

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    7. Re: And nobody has asked by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Counterfeit notes, to a bank? No. That's not how that works.

      Unless you posit they are 'perfect forgeries'. But even then the bank will have good cameras all over the public space.

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  2. Somebody stole 'em by karlandtanya · · Score: 2

    then chickened out.

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  3. Support by vjg · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a bathroom bill I could get behind.

    1. Re:Support by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There was a spate of incidents a few years ago where someone in Japan was leaving 10,000 yen notes (worth about â60) in bathrooms, with a note expressing the hope that they brought whoever found them happiness. I don't know if they ever caught the person behind it.

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    2. Re:Support by sinij · · Score: 4, Funny

      Caught to thank them?

  4. News for.. by leathered · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...turds?

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    1. Re:News for.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Stuff that splatters

  5. TP of the gods. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well now we know what rich people wipe their asses with.

  6. You excrete what you eat by dlleigh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks like the food in the UBS company cafeterias is too rich.

  7. Re:Bills worth nearly 600 dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    For god's sake man, this is Slashdot.

    "Each individual bill is worth nearly 0.149111 bitcoin."

  8. Re:Is that a normal denomination? by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We often see $100 bills used in our store.

    My personal observation is that the people using them are always old, as in clearly past retirement age. I have no clue why this is the case.

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  9. Re:Is that a normal denomination? by mindstormpt · · Score: 4, Informative

    That greatly depends on the country. In Switzerland, 500 EUR banknotes are common, though not as much as 500 CHF banknotes (you can use those to pay for your morning bread). UBS has ATMs for different denominations in many agencies and airports. Here, for instance, the leftmost ATM only gives out 100 EUR banknotes.

  10. Swiss Cheese by sexconker · · Score: 2

    The Swiss know a LOT of the shit they handle is illegal, fraudulent, tied to warlords, drug lords, slavers, etc. They don't care until they might get caught.

    My guess is this Swiss bank had a ton of counterfeit 500 Euro notes and they knew it, and a few key people had been shredding and flushing them for ages.

    1. Re:Swiss Cheese by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Nobody working in a bank would flush EUR notes. They would know that they will clog up the pipes because they do not dissolve, as banknotes are made from cotton, not paper. Also, shredding them would be easy, but not effective, because you still get the serials from the micro-writing on them. Incidentally, a large bank would have a document incinerator and that is reliable.

      Best guess would be somebody with significant money but mental problems. That would also explain the Spanish lawyer paying for the repairs.

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  11. Destroyed money? by MrLogic17 · · Score: 2

    This wasn't just flushed money- it was cut up first.That's not a normal thing to do.

    My first thought? Mental illness. Sounds like some of the stories you hear from that government office that helps you reclaim money destroyed by fire, mold, or a dementia patient who starts shredding money they had hidden in the house.
    See also: https://www.frbservices.org/op...

    My 2nd guess is counterfeit money.

  12. Re:It's Normal for Switzerland by gweihir · · Score: 3, Informative

    There never was a "10'000 CHF" bill. 1'000 CHF is the largest one. Check here: https://www.snb.ch/en/iabout/c...

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  13. Money laundering crim by mbkennel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > It's not like "phasing out" means the same thing as "make possessing a crime".

    But if somebody did possess them as part of a crime, what then?

    > That doesn't explain why somone who had them would destroy the rathe rather exchange them or juts leve them in the box.

    Money laundering investigators are closing in on the perp, and the perp found out.

    Exchanging the notes leaves a record of the person being connected to the money which is very bad evidence. The second takes the risk the box will be opened by an investigator.

    Think legal jeopardy. If person X, maybe part of a plea deal or whatever said, "yeah I gave 2 million in euro notes to Boris who was going to keep them in his box in UBS", and then, a few days later, Boris is on tape exchanging 2 million in euro notes and depositing it.... or if his box is opened thanks to a search warrant and they find the money----that's conclusive evidence linking Boris as a beneficiary. Now, if some random notes are randomly found in a sewer, the connection to Boris though suspicious is hardly as black-and-white conclusive to a jury or judge as being caught with the money personally.

    This is somebody with more fear of prison (or Putin diplomatic "retirement") than greed for the money.

  14. Re:Protip: by war4peace · · Score: 2, Informative

    EUR bills are made of plastic. When it burns, it gives a nasty smell and black smoke. It also shrivels and doesn't fully turn into ash, rather sticks to the underlying surface.
    What should have been done was cut them into very, VERY small pieces using a document destroyer.

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  15. Re:Is that a normal denomination? by lloydchristmas759 · · Score: 2

    Small correction: CHF 500 banknotes do not exist. There are CHF 100, 200 and 1000 notes. 100s are very common, 200s not so much and 1000s quite common in certain transactions (e.g. when you buy a used car from a private person, or older people doing cash only and who get their full salary or pension in cash from their bank account at the beginning of the month).

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  16. One possibility: by John+Jorsett · · Score: 4, Interesting

    nasty divorce. People do all sorts of strange and illogical things when they're embroiled in a divorce battle, including burning down houses, crushing cars, etc.

    1. Re:One possibility: by networkBoy · · Score: 2

      Well, I seriously entertained providing my ex with 1/2 of the pickup truck via plasma torch and requesting physically 1/2 of the hardwood floor I installed in the house I no longer live at to be used as kindling...

      So, yeah, fairly plausible.

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  17. Re:Quantitive easing. by unixisc · · Score: 2

    When it's spent on a great deal of bureaucratic waste, any currency would lose its value. However, when literally flushed down a toilet, since there is less of that currency in circulation, it should theoretically gain value

  18. Re:Quantitive easing. by aphelion_rock · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sylvester Stallone - Cliffhanger
    "it costs a fortune to heat this place"
    Feeding $100 notes into a fire to keep warm

  19. Why by Framboise · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the Tribune de GenÃve (local newspaper, in French) the reason for flushing money down the toilet is that some people from Spain had evaded state tax for years hiding money in the UBS bank, and since at the year end tax evasion will be disclosed by Swiss banks to EU countries, these people found nothing better to flush the bills down the toilets of the bank. As the toilets were soon unable to absorb so many bills, the women and one men (as found by cameras) went to nearby restaurants to continue their stupid procedure for destroying embarassing money. The bills have been checked by the police to be genuine.
       

  20. Re:Quantitive easing. by unixisc · · Score: 2

    You mean like 'supply & demand' laws? They apply to currencies as well!