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E-Cigarettes With Nicotine Increase Your Risk of Heart Disease, Says Study (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Even after puffing on just one electronic cigarette with nicotine, healthy non-smokers were found to have a biological marker known to increase the risk of heart disease in tobacco users, according to a new study. The research, published in Journal of the American Heart Association, shows that nicotine is not harmless, as many people believe. It can affect a smoker's health in more than one way, and not just by triggering addiction. Another study, conducted by Middlekauff that was published earlier this year, showed that people who use e-cigs almost every day have biological markers known to increase the risk of heart disease in tobacco users. These included an increase in adrenaline levels in the heart, which can predispose smokers to bad heart rhythms, heart attacks, and sudden death, as well as increased oxidative stress, an imbalance in the body's ability to defend itself against the damaging action of free radicals. Oxidative stress can lead to changes in blood fats and lead to arteriosclerosis.
That study, however, didn't show what exactly was causing those changes. E-cigarettes can have different flavoring and solvents, as well as nicotine. So to identify the culprit, Middlekauff brought 33 healthy non-smokers and non-vapers into the lab. On three different days, one month apart, the participants were asked to puff on three different kinds of e-cigarettes for 30 minutes: one with nicotine, one without nicotine, and a sham e-cig that was empty. The researchers did blood tests and measured the subjects' heart rhythms, and found that the participants had high levels of adrenaline in their hearts after they smoked the e-cig with nicotine, but not after they puffed on the e-cigarette without nicotine or the empty e-cig.
That study, however, didn't show what exactly was causing those changes. E-cigarettes can have different flavoring and solvents, as well as nicotine. So to identify the culprit, Middlekauff brought 33 healthy non-smokers and non-vapers into the lab. On three different days, one month apart, the participants were asked to puff on three different kinds of e-cigarettes for 30 minutes: one with nicotine, one without nicotine, and a sham e-cig that was empty. The researchers did blood tests and measured the subjects' heart rhythms, and found that the participants had high levels of adrenaline in their hearts after they smoked the e-cig with nicotine, but not after they puffed on the e-cigarette without nicotine or the empty e-cig.
E-Cigarettes With Nicotine Increase Your Risk of Heart Disease
I'm shocked! SHOCKED I TELL YOU!
But I'll bet there's a hell of a lot less tar!
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Lifestyle data is never included in these studies. I have been vaping for about four years, having smoked for 25. I live clean, though, and I was told I had the resting heart rate of a professional athlete (which I am not, though I am very fit) at my last checkup. Big grain of salt.
Consuming a stimulant causes stimulant effects.
is an indicator of a state or situation. For example c-reactive protein (one of the substances mentioned in the paper) is a marker of inflammation. It's actual function is to signal the immune system to clear out dead cells (both our own and bacterial).
Ischemic heart disease is an inflammatory disease; therefore if you are developing ischemic heart disease, you will find high levels of inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein.
However it seems to me it's a bit of a logical leap to do something which transiently increases inflammatory markers and then assume that means the subject's chances of getting a specific inflammatory disease are increased. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the paper.
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Every time another one of these "studies" comes out, I wonder how long it will be before an actual scientific study uncovers something of consequence. Cure for cancer, third arm, vaccine for the common cold?
I'm surprised there haven't been some new studies showing that marijuana causes a relaxed mood, reduces stress, and helps people with high blood pressure.
One of the markers was increased adrenaline. As in the stuff that helps athletes perform their best. So no ecigs, no exercise, got it.
But as for the rest, some people who would otherwise keep smoking will use ecigs instead. Some who would start smoking will use ecigs instead. That's bad how?
As for helping you quit, ecigs helped me quit. After a number of years vaping, I found that I just wasn't interested in the nicotine anymore. No drama, no nail biting, no eating the entire refrigerator, nothing. Just no more interest in nicotine.
That's the part that really hacks them off, I sinned by smoking and they want to see some serious suffering as penance.
>" Middlekauff brought 33 healthy non-smokers and non-vapers into the lab. On three different days, one month apart, the participants [...] and found that the participants had high levels of adrenaline in their hearts after they smoked the e-cig with nicotine"
Seriously? This is supposed to be impressive, useful science or something? So people who don't use nicotine consumed it and had typical, known, short-term heart rate changes after using that stimulant? And since none had any tolerance, the reaction was probably strong, right?
Now repeat that experiment with people who don't use caffeine and have them consume that stimulant instead and measure heart rates and heart adrenaline levels. Wow, what a coincidence!
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Perhaps, just perhaps, they should do this study with heart attack patients. Why?
My story:
I smoked for close to fourty years, around two packs of Camel studs per day. I had tried to quit smoking for ten years prior to my first heart attack. I had been through it all, the Chantix, the Wellbutrin, smokers groups, the nicotine patches, the medically approved nicotine inhalers, you name it. They all failed.
Five years ago I had a widow maker. the statistics for survival after one year is about 10 percent. I still smoked cigarettes. A little over a year later I had a second widow maker. The odds of surviving a year became about 5 percent.
After the second heart attack I switched to a quality E-Cig. Prior to the first e-cig, I tried a cheap e-cig and it failed to do anything because it could not create the sensation of a cigarette. However, the quality e-cig, did create the sensation of smoking a cigarette. I completely quit using tobacco cigarettes. I am now four years past the second heart attack. Yes I have some heart damage from the heart attacks. A normal person, one that has had no heart attack and is reasonably fit has an ejection fraction of between 50 and 70 percent; mine is 47 percent. one of the interior walls of my heart has damage that can be read with ultrasound and nuclear stress tests. But I came out of both heart attacks remarkably well. two months ago, my cardiologist took me off of the critical list and only wants to see me once per year instead of every three months that had been the norm for the last three years.
I do not exercise except in the winter when I am dormant. I run a business in Lawn care and walk about four miles per day for greater than ten miles per day on a normal day. Sometimes more.
I do not show the markers for heart attack that this study speaks of. I know the test well, it is a blood draw. While I forget the name of the marker, or the test, it is the same test.
Having given my story, I would like to see this study repeated on heart attack patients. That is where the pedal meet the metal, not on healthy people. My experience is that in existing smokers, the risk of using an e-cig is less than using tobacco.
Why the broadside to vaping? Surely this study extends to nicotine gum, nicotine patches, and nicotine sprays as well.
"E-Cigarettes With Nicotine Increase Your Risk of Heart Disease, Says Study"
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"It also only shows that vaping affects the markers that are known risk factors, it doesnâ(TM)t show that vaping is connected to actual heart disease"
Seems like either the study, or just the headline, is worthless.
Compare ecigs to tobacco when looking at the health issue since the overwhelming majority of ecig users are former smokers.
The anti-smoking people are becoming irrelevant, which worries them. So they chose ecigs as their new target. There is a push to ban ecigs in all places that tobacco smoking is banned. That would include my own apartment where smoking is banned on the entire property. If this stupid law gets passed, I'll have to walk outside and off the property to the street to vape. I might as well light up a real cigarette if I'm going through that much trouble.
"It's the smell!" It's odorless, you moron, unless I get a flavored kind, then it will smell like vanilla or berries. That shit you cooked for dinner last night for dinner was far more offensive.
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...world problems is to hang all liberals.
Liberals are the reason why thousands of people are killed in car accidents, because driving is now considered a de facto liberty instead of a privilege.
Liberals are the reason why poison is still being sold in US after a momentary lapse of insanity in the 20s.
Liberals are the reason why yet another poison is being "legalized".
And liberals are the reason why tobacco megacorporations are still able to peddle the "smokes", that piece of shit poison for your lungs that makes millions of people die a horrendous slow death every year.
American needs a hundred years of law that will prohibit the word "liberty" itself.
The key to solution of hundreds of modern first world problems is to hang all liberals.
I hope to live to that day.
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wowowowowow waaait a minute: are you telling me they tried to avert false positive adrenaline spikes with a placebo, "empty" e-cig? And how exactly is anyone going to feel any sort of high, even if only psychological, if no combustion, vapor or evaporation exists and no different density, temperature and humidity mixture is felt on the airways?
Now, I'll be honest, I'm taking it out of the summary on this post, and I know the article will probably paint it much more professionally, but I doubt they can justify why that third scenario would have counted for anything relevant, and probably won't even convince me either that there is any reason a scientist would think otherwise. Unless they don't know the least thing about e-cig usage, which I have a big feeling about.
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New study shows non-smokers riding a smokers ass about smoking can increase the risk of non-smokers getting the shit beaten out of them.
And they increase your chance of being laughed at by ginormous factor.
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This is why smokers are thinner. No tar, and all the adrenaline of cigarette. I call it a plus.
Might also be able to retire one day. Unemployment's down, GDP is up, the stock market is doing glorious after eight years of okiedokie.
Bring on the utopia.
> Even after puffing on just one electronic cigarette with nicotine, healthy non-smokers were found to have a biological marker known to increase the risk of heart disease in tobacco users
Yeah, but is it more or less than one cigarette?
Nobody says nicotine is harmless ffs.
So, I also wonder if any focus has been given to the health impacts of breathing in polyethylene glycol, ethylene glycol, propylene glycol, glycerin, etc. By volume, you're using far more of those than you are the nicotine. Likewise, the flavors can have any number of different ingredients that are ok for ingestion, but not necessarily for inhaling.
My heart rate and adrenaline increases when I run. I am going to die from heart decease doing things I thought were healthy. Shit.
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When are you people going to finally get the clue? Your habit is KILLING YOU, no matter how many end-runs around it you try. Just give it up already, and let's concentrate on putting tobacco and vape companies out of business once and for all.
The American Heart Association and other reputable outfits would do studies on marijuana's impacts.
I really have zero interest in relying upon Julio from the down the street's opinion on marijuana's impacts.
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I am at times when looking at the data fully understanding why Ignaz Semmelweis became so irate and started writing angry letters to his fellow doctors basically calling them murderers. In his case they weren't washing their hands before surgery. But, he was categorically right. And seriously, goddamned murderers! I generally view people who whine about vaping, bringing up terrible studies like popcorn lung or whatnot as basically being murderers. They are saying things that will get people killed, and thousands more people than the antivaxxers and even the people who claim statins are evil and heart attacks are due to inflammation.
It is no longer uncommon to be uncommon.
You are just wrong. It is categorically the fact that countries with single payer health care systems have done exactly that study suggested and found that they would get massive health benefits and health care cost reductions, and found absolutely that E-cigarettes are "95% less toxic". You then attribute this not existing, regardless of that fact that it totally does exist, to lobbying etc, which is moot because, you're wrong.
https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-...
NHS is the national health service in the UK. This study was from two years ago.
It is no longer uncommon to be uncommon.
I'm not a smoker, but it seems to be there's been an illogical campaign against e-cigarettes, even in the "public service announcement" arena. I don't doubt that nicotine has negative health affects, but nicotine + water vapor has to be better than nicotine + 1000's of tar based substances, yet you would think they're more unhealthy than cigarettes from the anti-e-cig campaign. And where was this nicotine research when nicotine patches got FDA approval?
I've been vaping since before the cloud chasing posers took over, probably around 10 years. Before that I smoked for about 10 years (started in college). Its a night and day difference. I'm in the best shape of my life right now, workout every day (weight lifting and light cardio). Yes, I'm still addicted to nicotine (I make my own 'juice') but it doesn't cause me any worry, unlike every time I lit up an analog for 9 of those 10 years. My blood pressure is great, my heart is great, my lungs are great.
Is it possible that I'm causing myself SOME harm? of course, but I GUARANTEE you IF I am, its not even a fraction of what I was causing unto myself with the analogs.
The whole heart damage thing is an extrapolation. Yes, nicotine causes elevated adrenaline, which itself can put 'extra' stress on the heart, much like analogs that have nicotine in them, and hence one can claim ecigs have "biological markers like tobacco"!. Next they're going to correlate working out (and its adrenaline boosts) with biological markers of tobacco...
The adrenaline boost is one you'd even notice on anything other than a 'benchmark'. This is akin to saying water consumption is dangerous because drinking 10 gallons (or however many) in a sitting could kill you.
Yes, nicotine in high concentrations will kill you, so will probably eating a bottle ibuprofen, hell, so can half the crap that a doctor can prescribe you in APPROVED dosages that has been FDA approved. Nobody's regulating water consumption, or ibuprofen consumption, or alcohol consumption (other than must be 18 to drink like a fish), fat consumption, carbohydrate consumption, etc., etc.,
I think people are missing the trees for the forest here.
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He does not have any ideology whatsoever in his orange stupid head.
You are on the other hand, a presumptious brainless moron.
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And Trump hasn't had enough time to make a real difference to any of that. So, if you like it, don't forget to thank Obama. ;)