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President Donald Trump and His Daughter Ivanka To Unveil a New Federal Computer Science Initiative With Major Tech Backers (recode.net)
From a report: President Donald Trump will issue a new directive Monday to supercharge the U.S. government's support for science, tech, engineering and mathematics, including coding education, three sources familiar with the White House's thinking told Recode. To start, Trump is set to sign a presidential memorandum at the White House later today that tasks the Department of Education to devote at least $200 million of its grant funds each year to so-called STEM fields, as the administration seeks to train workers for high-demand computer-science jobs of the future. And on Tuesday, Trump's daughter and advisor, Ivanka, is expected to head to Detroit, where she will join business leaders for an event unveiling a series of private-sector commitments -- from Amazon, Facebook, Google, GM, Quicken Loans and others -- meant to boost U.S. coding and computer-science classes and programs, the sources said.
Must be "Bring Your Daughter to STEM Work" day at Slashdot.
De Vos is a clown and Trump is a national embarrassment and traitor. Kushner used his private email for WH business. Trump is weakness personified, attacking the NBA and NFL for his racist base.
Morons. Lock them all up.
It doesn't matter if there are no American applicants or if there are hundreds of American applicants. As long as there is one person from India willing to do the work for 20k a year, they will pick that person.
Otherwise he wouldn't be doing it.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
$200 million in government grants to fund offshore initiatives.
Proud neuron in the Slashdot hivemind since 2002.
Until they kill the H1B program, all it will do is further depress wage growth as domestic talent pools swell.
I must say.
As the article alludes to, most of these same tech companies just left the administration en mass after the 'very reluctant/weak/late condemnation of nazis' debacle.
This is effectively taking proposals that have already been thrown at them, and using it as an excuse to get large amounts of money from these jilted companies, and 'manage' them at their whim.
Here's what these companies should do: Create their OWN organization to manage any funds they want to use effectively, and just ignore the noises from this administration.
Better than letting DeVos have any potential control over it.
The only high tech job in the entire world, get ya coders here get ya coders here! o fuck we need engineers and those maf dorks too back to India maybe next time guys
the White House later today that tasks the Department of Education to devote at least $200 million of its grant funds each year to so-called STEM fields
So how much does the Department of Education (DoE) currently devote to STEM field grants? You are looking at around a $70 billion budget, with tens of billions already going to various grants. What is even the point of releasing this kind of news if no one can even tell if it is an improvement on what we already do?
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
private sector commitments to sending that sweet sweet analytics data off to Russia for future campaign assistance/active measures
"MAGA big league tovareesh" from Da Boys in Olgino
To start, Trump is set to sign a presidential memorandum at the White House later today ...
Holy fuck, he's signing a memo! Shit just got real y'all!
Nope, no sig
I'm not sure why they're paying attention to the Administration at all. Nobody else is. Congress is basically acting as if the White House was vacant (which, in a metaphorical sense, it is)
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Theodp, you don't need to submit as "anonymous". We know it is you
This is more likely just going to further suppress wages in these fields with an even greater glut of workers that they won't pay decent wages to and continue outsourcing work to other nations.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Due to the demographic of natural born US minorities, LGBTQRP, and women, who are represented at a disproportional number in these fields, this program will only benefit the white majority, the alt-right, Nazis, and straight men of this country.. Therefor this policy is racist, homophobic, and misogynist, something we should be used to seeing in this administration.......
to distract from other issues going against common sense and logical steps for the common good of a nation and - world as whole.
Just look at this tinderbox North-Korea and who plays with matches on it. Can light up any time, nothing is learned from history by an Idiot!
My town has 9 schools (1 pre-K, 4 elementary, 2 middle, 1 high school). The tab to run the district for a year is ~$65M. This works out to about $11k/student, which is pretty near the national average for school expenditures. There are about 50 million students in public schools in the US. So $200M/50M = $4/student. For a classroom of 25 kids, that's $100. Maybe you can pick up an Arduino kit. For a district that spends $11K/yr on a student, $4 is a rounding error. If this was $2B that would be $40/student, which for a classroom would be $1000, which could actually be used for technology initiatives -- buying equipment, IT staff to manage the equipment, teaching materials, hiring teachers and the like.
I.e. more fat, more sugar, less agility and less quality everywhere? I think I see where Trump is going with that. He is trying to re-create the success of the fast-food industry in education! Genius!
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Funding of coding science relating to those two fields will NOT be allowed.
Ultimately the number of people attracted to STEM will reflect the ease of obtaining sizable and life long opportunities in the STEM field, regardless of what schools do. It's up to corporations to decide what they want.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Damn it, how can you do a gay parody of the Pina Colada song and not use the line "If you like penis colonics"?
I'm not sure why they're paying attention to the Administration at all. Nobody else is. Congress is basically acting as if the White House was vacant (which, in a metaphorical sense, it is)
Nobody's paying attention? They can't shut up about it.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
I don't understand why Ivanka is involved with this project. Sure, we need more women in STEM, but I feel that Ivanka has always been more about the superficial feel good cosmetic of sales and marketing, antithetic to unglamorous logic driven grunt work of STEM. Oh', I forgot, she is the president's daughter.
Other may disagrees, but I look at this as a $200 million dollar public funded campaign effort to groom Ivanka for the Trump dynasty.
Slowly we drift into the idiocracy. . . .
At Trump University of course, exclusively!
(ducks and runs).
Increase the tuition costs of the Liberal Studies by several orders of magnitude and slash the cost of STEM tuition by orders of magnitude. Keep the grades and standards the same and in 5 years, see how many crybaby SJW Gender Studies Majors you see vs Computer Engineers.
why the hell would I let my kid go into IT. There's no jobs except for the top math wizs, and there's always jobs for those guys. This is just another transparent attempt to lower wages for the few folks left who have jobs.
End the H1-B and J1 programs first, then us parents will talk about giving you our kids. Until then my kid's going into Medical because they have a bloody Union (the AMA) and have so far resisted mass importation of cheap labor.
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The article must be wrong. $200 million to improve STEM education in the U.S.
http://nces.ed.gov claims there are 50.4 millions students enrolled in public primary and secondary schools in America today.
A Raspberry Pi Zero costs $5, assume you can get a super cheap cheap Chinese power supply, a USB cable and a 1m micro-HDMI to HDMI cable for $1.
That would mean that with students pairing up, they could share a Raspberry Pi Zero with no screen.
Maybe we can consider the average salary of a teacher is $56,383 as per referenced on niche.com
Assuming a full work year of 2000 hours (grading homework makes the average normal work day 10+ hours for a teacher which balances the summer vacation)... that would mean about $28.19 per hour to employ a teacher. If the average class size is 24 students (ny times) for primary and secondary schools, there must be 2.1 million school teachers. (Adjustments probably should be made to compensate for more than one teacher per 24 students as is typical in secondary education... there is also phys-ed, music, etc...
So consider maybe 3 millions teachers for 50.4 million students each making about $28.19 an hour. $200 million (employment taxes not included) is enough to buy 7.1 million hours of teachers or about 2 1/3 hours extra per teacher per year.
So, Donald Ana Ivanka are going to celebrate making the cost of a borderline useless computer with teachers unqualified to use them that have no screens?
Guys... did they even spend 2.3 hours thinking about this?
What will it cost to make the announcement? Seriously, the press releases, secret service for the president and Ivanka, the budgeting process, the work required at the schools to manage the additional money, etc...
Will $200 million even cover the cost of passing this? We're off by a minimum of an order of magnitude possibly two before this is meaningful.
And BTW... this isn't a Trump thing. This is a stupid fucking Washington thing. Pick a number pick enough to sound impress to the general public. Then sell it for political capital. It costs basically nothing. They don't even have to hand the money out. No one would be wiser for it and if they do hand it out, it'll be insulting as hell to the schools... forget that from this, the amount a school will receive won't even cover the cost of erasers in the science classes.
If you're going to promote computer science and technology in schools, learn to do basic math first.
Great job ass heads in Washington!!!
I'm not sure why they're paying attention to the Administration at all.
That's the real story here, imo.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Trump can't win any battles. So he sells out to the criminal oligarchs of Micro$oft, Apple, Google, Facebook/SpyAgency, ilk.
Kim Jong Un is right; Donald is a dotard, moron, swamp creature himself.
So Sad. So pathetic. So Donald Trump Selling out Americans.
Where's our Wall?
Where's our commitment to American workers?
Where's the breaking up of abusive monopolies?
Where's the reining in of Governmental and Corporate Corruption?
Drain the Swamp?
Donald you just raised the water level.
So sad. So infuriating. Perhaps Kim Jung Un is right; Donald is deranged.
Funny how Obama's approval rating mirrors Trump's disapproval rating.
But don't let that stop you from blindly believing whatever propaganda Tucker Carson and the rest of the Faux News Channel tells you you're supposed to believe.
Just wait - no doubt soon we'll be hearing that he has Equifax providing the computer security training.
We're certainly paying attention to them here. Which of the following is a smarter career move at Google, in a CNN newsroom, or in the Yale faculty lounge: to admit to voting for Donald Trump, or to proudly proclaim you are a member of the Resistance?
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Alright, I get it - I figured. I'm the AC that asked the questions.
I was advised to learn those skills - and I did.
But, I don't have work experience in them.
My interview questions always include, "How many years of on the job experience do you have?"
Which I reply, "None".
I am in Metro-Atlanta. My advisor DOES have experience and when he was laid off at 45 years old, it took over a year to get another job.
I am 58.
I have nothing to add that would be constructive to this thread.
Whether it is lead by Trump or Obama, government should not — indeed, must not — involve itself in the markets, including the higher education market. Not the government of a free country, anyway...
The Central Planning, that Statists like so much, is both inefficient and opressive.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Yeah, nobody's paying attention to President Trump <eyeroll>
He just tricked half the NFL players into embarrassing themselves last weekend - the guy's a fucking genius at manipulating left-wingers. They're not only paying attention, they're dancing to his tune.
Do you have ESP?
Hillary runs Trump's brain on a home server in her bathroom closet? There's a fun conspiracy for ya. Oh, and it's been hacked by Russians.
Table-ized A.I.
Wait, you're suggesting that people and companies should do their own thing, instead of routing it through the federal government ?
What a crazy idea!
But...how in heavens could anything get accomplished if the government's not running it?
-Styopa
>tasks the Department of Education to devote at least $200 million of its grant funds each year to so-called STEM fields
So NO NEW MONEY then? Im surprised to see /. shovelling shit for your shit leader...
This from the man who's organization still runs unpatched Exchange Servers from 2003.
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These days I just hope that General Kelly can keep #PresidentTweety from reading any of these discussions. Might make Trump apoplectic. In simplified Trump-speak, the Donald might throw another hissy fit.
Trump's frequent hissy fits just embarrass all of us and make Putin laugh. Actually, a severe seizure could kill him, and I think Pence could be an even worse leading occupant (insofar as Pence's brain seems to be made of lead).
Oh yeah. About the story. Trump knows nothing, NOTHING. Sergeant Schultz would be so proud.
"Hey, Donald. They ain't disrespecting the flag. They're disrespecting YOU."
General Kelly better tighten up the leash.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Yes, you have succinctly described the "new normal": people can't stop talking about stuff they aren't really paying attention to.
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There are plenty of IT jobs out there which demand six figures. Like many other industries, there are few qualified people to fill the positions.
Windows admins are a dime/dozen right now. So are helpdesk techs. A+ is going extinct as virtualization and prices decimate PC repair. Web development can easily be outsourced. So where does one turn?
If your kid wants to go into IT, try any combination of security, database, virtualization, Linux, and/or system programming. Chuck in some routing and switching for added benefit.
okay so let me get this straight, trump cuts 9.2 billion dollars from the DOE's budget, wants credit for $200M that he didn't even fund - he's just saying that of the money already allocated to grants, this much should go to STEM.
Meanwhile, when obama was president, he proposed a 4 billion dollar inceare in DOE's budget to go specifically to CS education, but that didn't pass because of republicans.
So the net score is: Obama +4 billion (blocked by republicans), Trump -9.2 billion (republicans love it).
And he wants to sell this as him supporting STEM?!?
If your kid wants to go into IT, try any combination of security, database, virtualization, Linux, and/or system programming. Chuck in some routing and switching for added benefit.
Wow, it's like you've seen my resume! Linux, system programming, virtualization, security, databases, networking, routing, switching. I've done all of those things.
And you know what? There's still not even one job for me anywhere.
Cool story, liar.
if they could get Americans for that $20k/yr.
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folks don't go into Liberal arts because it's too costly. They do it because they can't hack the work for a medical degree. And nobody I know goes into CS. That's not because of the cost, it's because there are no jobs and haven't been for at least 10 years. Bring the jobs and the students will come back.
And can we stop dumping all over the liberal arts? You know Journalism is a liberal arts degree, right? And History? Jeez, and you wonder why things are going to pot in this country.
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Where's 'here', though?
He's portrayed by most of the media worldwide as an idiot and has by normal standards of behaviour, frequently behaved like one. For that and other reasons he's seen as toxic by many talented people who would otherwise work for a Republican administration. They don't want to give up their lives for a few months trying to fathom what passes for his mind, specially knowing he's likely to insult them in public at any time. The military seem more able to cope - they probably see it as their duty to the country and console themselves by thinking, "I can take it - it was worse in Iraq, though at times like these i wish i was back there".
Where's a list of his achievements (good ones I mean)?
I tried to go to Conservapedia but
Forbidden /Donald_Trump_achievements on this server.
You don't have permission to access
Either it knows I'm a liberal or it has something to hide.
Weird I thought Ivanka was his wife. Well that makes a lot more sense!
Current Trump supporters are anti-science, anti-fact and Anti-American.
If he does truly support education, he should change the head of the department of education from a flat earthed, anti-science person first; or would coming out in support of science cause them to drop their support, can they blame "liberals", for "eroding his morals"?
I am the unwilling control for my Origin.
Other may disagree, but I look at this as a $200 million dollar public funded campaign effort to groom Ivanka for the Trump dynasty.
Yep. She wants to be the Marine LePen to her father's Jean-Marie LePen.
Either that, or this is just Trump University Coding Bootcamp edition.
Trump attaches name to program that does something for somebody, in attempt to coverup ineptitude by throwing random shit at wall and seeing what sticks...
He couldn't cite one fact about the healthcare bill(s) he was pushing. He didn't know the difference between medicare and medicaid. He doesn't know the difference between health insurance and life insurance. He doesn't even know anything about the things he does care about, much less the things he doesn't care about. He'll still put his name on it, though.
He's not just an embarrassment to the United States. He's an embarrassment to all of humanity.
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One nuke into Guam means US retaliation like you wouldn't believe. Trust me.
It's going to be a fucking blood bath. You'll find out about the calm before the storm.