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Department of Justice Demands Facebook Information From 'Anti-Administration Activists' (cnn.com)

PopeRatzo shares a report from CNN: Trump administration lawyers are demanding the private account information of potentially thousands of Facebook users in three separate search warrants served on the social media giant, according to court documents obtained by CNN. The warrants specifically target the accounts of three Facebook users who are described by their attorneys as "anti-administration activists who have spoken out at organized events, and who are generally very critical of this administration's policies." One of those users, Emmelia Talarico, operated the disruptj20 page where Inauguration Day protests were organized and discussed; the page was visited by an estimated 6,000 users whose identities the government would have access to if Facebook hands over the information sought in the search warrants. In court filings, Talarico says if her account information was given to the government, officials would have access to her "personal passwords, security questions and answers, and credit card information," plus "the private lists of invitees and attendees to multiple political events sponsored by the page."

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  1. Not right by markdavis · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This just isn't right. If they are seeking the ID of people who posed actual physical threats, or were involved in UNLAWFUL activity (such as genuine libel, inciting riots, participating in violence or riots, etc), that might be justified.

    Being caught up in an ID disclosure just because one visited a web site or Facebook page goes well beyond what could possibly necessary.

    More info needed, especially when it is a CNN article.

    1. Re:Not right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This just isn't right. If they are seeking the ID of people who posed actual physical threats, or were involved in UNLAWFUL activity (such as genuine libel, inciting riots, participating in violence or riots, etc), that might be justified.

      Being caught up in an ID disclosure just because one visited a web site or Facebook page goes well beyond what could possibly necessary.

      More info needed, especially when it is a CNN article.

      To take one example, Antifa has gained the distinction of being labeled a 'domestic terrorist organisation' in a very short time for throwing urnine bombs and punching a few Nazis while the Ku Klux Klan is still not considered worthy of that title even though it has been waging a campaign of lynchings, murder, rape and terrorist bombings for 150 years. From the Trump administration's point of view there is nothing wrong with that picture so what makes you think they don't consider themselves to have ample justification for cracking down on people who committed the unpardonable crime of visiting Trump critical Facebook pages? After all, Antifa and other organisations like it are a clear threat to Trump's 'base'. From the point of view of the likes of Sessions, Trump, Bannon, Miller, Gorka, and the rest of that ilk nothing is more natural than a president using his authority to persecute his political opponents.

    2. Re: Not right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because EVERYBODY who got destroyed by the House Un-American Activities Committee was trying to overthrow the government... oh that's right they weren't

      Those who refuse to learn from History are doomed to repeat it

    3. Re:Not right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Slashdot really needs to end the ability of unverified ACs to post here. I am beginning to suspect that too many comments like the one above are coming from the other side of the planet.

  2. Re: Hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If what you're resisting is respect for people of other races, that makes you racist.

    If what you're resisting is racism, that makes you not racist.

    What you appear to be doing is playing word games, because it's easier to be right when you control all the words. But resisting bad things is good, and resisting good things can be bad.

    Step away from the words and start working on the concepts.

  3. Re:A witch hunt. by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The gov't should investigate people based on their threat risk and NOT their political leanings. If The Right only investigates The Left, and/or the The Left only investigates The Right, then our "law" is no better than Nazi law.

  4. Re:Hypocrisy by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When we used to hold the Soviet Union up to the light, we'd point to their jailing and beating and disappearances of dissidents and say "The USSR is a police state!"

    Nothing's changed here except the geography. These tactics are still police state tactics, no matter which dictator-wannabe is practicing them.

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  5. Re:Hypocrisy by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is a difference between resisting taxation because you don't like Obama and resisting the government trying to deport your family or take away the healthcare that is keeping you alive.

    This kind of false equivalence argument is the new favourite of the far right. "Yes we are bad, but they are the same and you are a hypocrite for not acknowledging that".

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  6. Is anyone surprised? by quonset · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The con artist has repeatedly praised his buddy Putin at every opportunity, even going so far as to apologize for Putin's military deliberately bombing hospitals and civilians in Syria, and Russia's support for the dictator Assad.

    It is well known Putin doesn't like or tolerate dissent. In Crimea, which Russia stole from the Ukraine, Russia troops went door to door in the Tartar community and rounded up anyone who spoke out against the takeover. They shut down Tartar schools and the only Tartar radio station, and forbid the teaching of the Tartar language. Just recently, Russia jailed a Tartar leader because he led protests against the Russian invasion of Crimea.

    Witness now in the U.S. what the con artist is trying to do. His fragile ego can't stand anyone saying a single bad word about him and so he does this. He's only following the lead of his buddy Putin.

    That using the power of the government to go after people who exercise their First Amendment rights should even be an issue speaks volumes about this administration.

  7. Re: Hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I try not to get too political.

    You mean to say, that you try to cover yourself with a pretense of being "not too political" in order to give a false air of legitimacy to your faux grievances?

    However, I can't help but notice how it's now "your civic duty" to "resist" and generally disparage the government.

    Ah, picking up the messaging of the right-wing that carried over from Reagan, huh?

    Questioning their authority has long been a problem of the right-wing conservative branch. They were even worse when beating the anti-Communist drum. There's a reason why McCarthy ran rampant.

    Prior to January 20, 2017, that meant you were a racist deplorable scumbag.

    When you embrace Cliven Bundy, Phil Robertson, Joe Arpaio and the birther-in-chief himself, Donald Trump, does that not make you one of their racist brotherhood? I mean, it isn't like you are giving them like the love to a leper victim, you were shouting your devotion in chorus.

    Still are. You can't even let NFL players kneel in protest without having a fit. You'd probably explode if they used the Black Power Salute.

    Journalists were being tossed in the pokey, phones were being tapped to find "leakers", etc. Apparently, now that's all just police state tactics.

    Yeah, sorry, Fox News tried that already.

    The real question is, why are you so suddenly supportive of the "police" state you allegedly deplored, why do you demand everybody march to the orders of your glorious leader, why do you insist so vehemently that everything is going well and that you should get all the credit for it?

  8. Re:Why don't you tell them why disruptj20 was bust by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry, but this is a criminal act that they're investigating. They're allowed to find out who was involved in it and given that #disruptj20 was criminal, they have reasonable suspicion to look at anyone involved.

    And by "involved", you mean everyone who ever looked at their Facebook page?

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    You're citing Project Veritas videos as evidence, dude. How many times do you need James O'Keefe to be exposed as a fraudster before you'll learn?

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  9. Re:I'll laugh if you were one of them... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No, everyone who decided to "like" it. That's literally the first line of the first link you posted, telling us that 6,000 people apparently like endangering lots of people by putting acid into ventilation systems and whatnot.

    Why, you stupid sonofabitch. You actually believe that "liking" something should make you a suspect in a criminal investigation. No wonder you would support a wannabe fascist as president.

    Do you also believe that liking a post about putting people in ovens should make you a suspect? Because I suspect you just might become a suspect.

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  10. Re:Why don't you tell them why disruptj20 was bust by RedK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "it has been debunked". Sure. Convenient you leave no source to said debunking. So thoroughly debunked, Robert Creamer had to resign after Project Veritas exposed him : http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/...

    Even CNN had to report on it. "Debunked" means "It was factual, but I hate it" to some of you people.

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