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Former Female Oracle Employees Sue Company For Alleged Pay Discrimination (techcrunch.com)
Three female, former Oracle employees are suing Oracle for allegedly paying women less than men in similar jobs. Rong Jewett, Sophy Wang and Xian Murray filed a lawsuit August 28, seeking a class-action status to represent all other women who have worked at the company. TechCrunch reports: The lawsuit, first reported by The Information, alleges that Oracle discriminated against women by "systematically paying them lower wage rates than Oracle pays to male employees performing substantially equal or similar work under similar working conditions," the filing states. The time period the lawsuit references is four years prior to the filing and through the date of the trial in California. Referencing how the U.S. Department of Labor sued Oracle in January based on its compliance review that found "systemic discrimination against women" and "gross disparities in pay," the lawsuit states Oracle had known or should have known about the pay disparity between its male and female employees. The plaintiffs are seeking wages due, interest and liquidated damages plus interest. They also want Oracle to guarantee they won't pay women less than men for similar work in the future.
Kushners?
...it does not matter. Put in the hard work. Keep your head down and solve problems. If you're not getting what you deserve, move elsewhere. Your skills are obviously, at least in your mind, in great demand so landing a better job will be easy.
Yep, I never spell check.
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Hiring women can be dangerous to your company's health!
Come on girl, you knew what you where signing on for, ORACLE is as advertised,
One Raging Asshole Called Larry Ellison
It is a civil suit. So they can subpoena that information during the discovery phase. In civil court there is no "presumption of innocence" nor any protection against self incrimination. So they can go in with no evidence, force Oracle to divulge data, and then use that data against them. This is they way civil law has worked for centuries. If Oracle kept proper records, and did not discriminate, they should be able to get the lawsuit dismissed. Otherwise, they should seek a settlement. You never want a jury trial in a case like this. Juries tend to include bitter careerless women who have had their dreams crushed by reality, and they will have little sympathy for a soulless corporation ... and no corporation is more soulless than Oracle.
This is the time for the American Anti-SJWs to shine. Christina Hoff-Summers, her proxies like Ben Shapiro and Milo and her elders like Tomas Sowell, all claim that there is no discrimination against women and doing the the math right shows it.
There are, of course, other considerations and implications from this lawsuit. The idea that employee A has to get what employee B gets, or even in the ball-park of what B gets is a basic communist, ideological, evil. AFAIK americans never stay at their jobs if they find a better paying spot. So claiming that it is a "class" thing will be hard to prove. Another implication is the basic (and peculiar) american ideological concept called "A deal is a deal". If you freely sign a contract, thus striking a deal, going back and asking for more through courts is trying to chip away at the original concept. Your whole country is based on the idea that a deal is a deal. Sure damage can be done, proven and compensated for by courts but chip enough foundation away and it's pretty much legal chaos.
This will be very entertaining, Best of luck to all involved :-)
The lawyers are going to clear a quarter billion, and each of the employees is going to get a coupon for 25% off their next database.
See that "Preview" button?
Isn't a hiring freeze on men patently illegal?
"Former Female Oracle Employees Sue Company"
Former Female? What were they before? Perhaps you might mean "Female Former Oracle Employees Sue Company."
Two words:
Confirmation bias.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
How about different men paid systematically different for the same work?
How about different men paid systematically different for the same work?
If they are members of a Protected Class then it is illegal to pay them systematically differently for the same work. Protected classes include race, gender, religion, etc. So if you pay black men and white men systematically differently for the same work, that is illegal.
If the difference is not legal protected, then you can discriminate. For instance, you can pay tall men less than short men since height is not a legally protected class. You can refuse to hire smokers. You can fire someone for wearing a nose ring. None of these are protected.
Disclaimer: I am not saying this is the way it "should be". I am just saying that, according to the law, this is the way it is.
I can already see it: "We're offering you $X" "Well, I guess I'm gonna go work elsewhere" "Wait!!! We can talk about this...actually nevermind, we can't >."
You can negotiate with individuals. You just need to make sure that the average salary for men and the average for women is the same if they are doing the same work.
What. The. Fuck. Does. This. Even. Mean.
So you negotiate with two dudes to keep them on board, so you, what, just give across the board raises to women ?
And which demographics do we have to make sure to keep equal ? Is it just men/women ? Is it blacks/whites/latinos/asian?
Or is it now chinese/japanese/vietnamese/australian/european whatever that we have to keep equal ? Why is it that the italians make 4% more at this company than the germans? Shit - I'm italian and german.
Should we make sure that short and tall have "equal" pay (across averages, I guess?) - fat and skinny ? Ugly and good looking ? This is fucking Ice-9 in a bizarre HR world all over it.
Good luck with all of that. I will continue to not worry about it.