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Bitcoin Transactions Lead To Arrest of Major Drug Dealer (techspot.com)

"Drug dealer caught because of BitCoin usage," writes Slashdot reader DogDude. TechSpot reports: 38-year-old French national Gal Vallerius stands accused of acting as an administrator, senior moderator, and vendor for dark web marketplace Dream Market, where visitors can purchase anything from heroin to stolen financial data. Upon arriving at Atlanta international airport on August 31, Vallerius was arrested and his laptop searched. U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agents allegedly discovered $500,000 of Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash on the computer, as well a Tor installation and a PGP encryption key for someone called OxyMonster...

In addition to his role with the site, agents had identified OxyMonster as a major seller of Oxycontin and crystal meth. "OxyMonster's vendor profile featured listings for Schedule II controlled substances Oxycontin and Ritalin," testified DEA agent Austin Love. "His profile listed 60 prior sales and five-star reviews from buyers. In addition, his profile stated that he ships from France to anywhere in Europe." Investigators discovered OxyMonster's real identity by tracing outgoing Bitcoin transactions from his tip jar to wallets registered to Vallerius. Agents then checked his Twitter and Instagram accounts, where they found many writing similarities, including regular use of quotation marks, double exclamation marks, and the word "cheers," as well as intermittent French posts. The evidence led to a warrant being issued for Vallerius' arrest.

U.S. investigators had been monitoring the site for nearly two years, but got their break when Vallerius flew to the U.S. for a beard-growing competition in Austin, Texas. He now faces a life sentence for conspiracy to distribute controlled substances.

169 comments

  1. DeVry grad speaks by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    But blockclouds are androgynous and so this breaks the fifth amendment!

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    1. Re:DeVry grad speaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a dumb little shit that froggy is. May he receive black hot beef injections for the remainder of his life.

    2. Re:DeVry grad speaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It shows! Let a University of Phoenix grad set you straight!

      They're not androgynous, they're analylingus!

  2. Jurisdiction by ebonum · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the vast majority of the crimes were committed in France and Europe. So he is being sent to Miami???

    1. Re: Jurisdiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like the vast majority of the crimes were committed in France and Europe. So he is being sent to Miami???

      Yes. Why are you surprised?

      When he is finished getting ass raped in the US he will be deported into the arms of the relevant EU member police where he will be tried and hopefully convicted and be ass raped there.

    2. Re: Jurisdiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sure do have a fetish for ass rape. What's your address, boy?

    3. Re:Jurisdiction by ravenshrike · · Score: 3, Informative

      He sold at some point to US customers. The thing is, it's his own damn fault that he was caught. He brought a completely unencrypted computer with all the evidence needed to convict his stupid ass to US soil. Methinks he had been partaking of his own stash too often.

  3. Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is stopping the US government from profiting on the drug war they created, and then planting the private keys on anyone coming into the country?

    1. Re:Planted Evidence? by gravewax · · Score: 1

      The government can't even keep its secrets secret that go undiscovered like the tin foil hat brigade like yourself believe happen, let alone commit vast conspiracies to arrest a minor individual. The sheer unlikelihood of your scenario and the planning involved goes beyond the realms of belief.

    2. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's stopping the French government from dealing with their own criminals?

    3. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have the foggiest about that which you are speaking.

    4. Re:Planted Evidence? by willy_me · · Score: 1

      One assumes lack of evidence. When one crosses the border they subject themselves to the sort of searches that would otherwise not be allowed. In this case it appears to be the laptop that did him in.

    5. Re: Planted Evidence? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      The least believabe thing about Stargate SG1 is that the government could keep it a secret.

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    6. Re: Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They don't do faggy things like hold Beard growing competitions.

    7. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yep he must have forgotten his tin-foil hat. definitely this is a case of the government spending millions to setup a drug cartel only to hand it over as evidence to frame a 2 bit crook and risk exposing themselves.

    8. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey, moron... the conspiracies weren't to arrest a minor individual... they were to convince the media that the minor individual was a major individual, and that everyone can stop looking for the real criminals (them).

    9. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the cartel had spoiled... time to trash it and spin up a new one.

    10. Re: Planted Evidence? by DaHat · · Score: 1

      Re-watching The X-Files last year left me with the same feeling. I even came to sarcastically suspect that X-Files was in fact a bit of government propaganda. Not regarding the existence of aliens... but suggesting the competency and near perfect operational security of government.

    11. Re:Planted Evidence? by gravewax · · Score: 1

      even a spoiled one you would not expose to a spotlight like this. you bury it and stop using everything related to it. This is simply a case of a moron drug dealer getting caught with his pants down, to think a conspiracy is even remotely possible is a pretty fucking long bow to draw, my guess is the fact his stuff was searched means he probably has a history of such crimes or they were well and truly already suspicious of him.

    12. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hey retard, they already had a load of evidence on him, this was simply found after the arrest cementing the case. Only a fucking retard would believe that this was a government conspiracy where rather than burying the evidence they expose it to the world scrutiny. obviously you are one of this bearded idiots frequent customers.

    13. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      firstly idiot you need to read more than the Slashdot version summary. He was already well and truly under arrest for this prior to them discovering the cache of evidence on his laptop, fortunately like most criminals this guy was a complete moron making public posts and leaving a trail of evidence and circumstantial evidence that led to him having an arrest warrant issued prior to his arrival in the US, the laptop simply sealed his fate rather than being the evidence that got him caught.

    14. Re: Planted Evidence? by Cederic · · Score: 0

      err.. hi. This website is used by adults. The word 'faggy' is a bit childish for here, do try and act at least mildly mature.

    15. Re: Planted Evidence? by Megol · · Score: 0

      "faggy"? As pertaining to fags a.k.a cigarettes?

      There are plenty of contests like that in Europe and nobody thinks they are related to cigarette use.

    16. Re: Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Evidence? You must be kidding. Keep yo pants up gaffot.

    17. Re: Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, he means fags as in cock sucking, ass pounding, rim job giving male homosexuals.

    18. Re: Planted Evidence? by LinuxLuver · · Score: 1

      Which CIA bureau do you work at?

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    19. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what said they didnt, and arent?

    20. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'murkins. try to keep up.

    21. Re:Planted Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lack of corroborating evidence - if all the other evidence says that the "Oxymonster" account is owned by a guy in France, and you try to pin those accounts on an American, it's not going to add up. There would also be filesystem metadata showing that the bitcoin wallet had been added to your computer in the last five minutes rather than being in your possession for however long the drug dealer was in business.

      The article describes how they caught him - they traced the Bitcoins to his account, and corroborated that with his Instagram and Twitter accounts, and they had an arrest warrant issued for him. They didn't just search a random guy and he turned out to have a bunch of drug money on hand, they were expecting him.

    22. Re: Planted Evidence? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Well, I suppose SG1 was that way about the USAF.

      Except for USAF officers wearing suits instead of uniforms. Those guys are always dodgy bastards.

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  4. "anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'd always been puzzled by how some people seem to imply use of bitcoin is somehow "anonymous". It may be anonymous *now*, but remember - every transaction lives on the blockchain FOREVER. Do something illegal with bitcoin and you can be found out years and years down the road (you better hope it's something covered by a statute of limitations).

    1. Re:"anonymous" cash by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Except that apparently you can get away with collecting ransomware payments in BTC for as long as you want to. Why the charmed life for this one crime?

    2. Re: "anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah well, it's possible to keep it anonymous.
      Just always use a secret laptop that only gets online with tor. Always connected with someone else's wifi. Never log into any account that wasn't made on that laptop.
      Never use your btc wallet with any bank account. So your only chance of get money is to buy and sell drugs.

    3. Re:"anonymous" cash by Kaenneth · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are coin 'tumbler' services where you send in, for example, 100 BTC, which is then randomly swapped with BTC sent by other users, and then 98 BTC is send to the address you specified. If the tumbler service keeps no records, and isn't being bugged, it's effective.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    4. Re:"anonymous" cash by Plugh · · Score: 1

      As you noted, with a tumbler you are trusting that the people running the service aren't malicious actors (a government or other organized crime racket, ha ha). But there are cryptocurrencies -- notably Monero -- that have such mixing built into the protocol itself. no reliance on a benevolent 3rd party

    5. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There are coin 'tumbler' services where you send in, for example, 100 BTC, which is then randomly swapped with BTC sent by other users, and then 98 BTC is send to the address you specified. If the tumbler service keeps no records, and isn't being bugged, it's effective.

      And just how many of those tumblers are honeypots run by the FBI?

    6. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what you describe is straight up money laundering and will result in whoever provides said service some serious arse raping time in jail in the future.

    7. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and how exactly did they manage to work out which ones haven't already been compromised by the authorities or are actually being run by the authorities not to mention you have to trust that they really aren't keeping records (which in itself is a crime in must countries for money laundering). My view is if you are trusting one of these services then you are already well and truly fucked.

    8. Re:"anonymous" cash by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      > It may be anonymous *now*, but remember - every transaction lives on the blockchain FOREVER.

      Even if they were individually protected from tracing, becaase for example they were built on rootkitted AWS servers or various worldwide rootkitted botnets: the owners of the various exchanges have _not_ proven trustworthy. It's very difficult to have confidence in people convicted of attempting to murder their business partners, as the arrest and convictions of the leader of the Silk Road Exchange has shown. And I'm afraid that their dalliance with money laundering and "hiding things from the government" encourages them to hide theft from their customers, as the raw embezzlement from Mt. Gox has demonstrated. Mt. Gox was the largest bitcoin exchange in the world: it had over 850,000 bitcoins stolen during their lifetime, half a billion US dollars in the valuation at the time of their shutdown.

      The scale of the abuse and fraud was widespread, and was apparently at every level of the exchange. I've seen no evidence that any of the other bitcoin exchanges are more trustworthy or more cautious with their client's bitcoins: the insistence on being "edgy" and "outside the establishment" seems to lead directly to abuse from inside the companies and vulnerability to outside abuse. Dealing in secretive currencies for illegal transactions, which has remained a core use of bitcoin, is a corrupting influence for the people handling the exchnages.

    9. Re:"anonymous" cash by naubol · · Score: 1

      Money laundering is when you take illegally gotten gains and make them look like they were legally acquired. Tumblers simply anonymize the source which is not sufficient to consider the funds laundered. It's not like the IRS is going to stop charging you with tax evasion because they can't figure out how you acquired the money. Adding anonymity to the source of funds is not necessarily a crime either. Consider how money is moved through international banks which obscures where the funds originated.

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    10. Re:"anonymous" cash by gravewax · · Score: 1

      Actually the process of anonymising falls directly under the money laundering laws, any organisation that acts as an exchange for funds transfer must keep accurate records of who and where those funds went too. The process of anonymising the source breaches those laws.

    11. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ignoring the fact quite a few of those ransomware individuals have been caught, arrested and prosecuted and still more waiting in the various world court systems to be processed. Many that do ransomware will be keenly aware they will be hunted from day one and hence will be extremely careful in everything they setup to maximise their chances of getting away with it, they are also usually based in many backwater countries and have absolutely ZERO intention to expose themselves by getting passports and crossing borders. similiarly all the Nigerian scammers get away with it constantly despite normal people getting arrested daily for similar crimes, stay in a country with poor legal structures and you have bugger all chance of being caught.

    12. Re:"anonymous" cash by slashrio · · Score: 1

      The stupidity wasn't using bitcoins, it was that he didn't encrypt his hard drive properly.

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    13. Re:"anonymous" cash by slashrio · · Score: 1

      That might depend on the jurisdiction where the tumbler is in.

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    14. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'd be nice if the bitcoin laundering services actually involved honest people using their bitcoin, like real money laundering services do.

      But what incentive would honest people have to use such a service?

      Ah well, it's better than nothing, I guess.

    15. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This only works for criminals if the BTC they get in exchange comes from non-criminals. But why would non-criminals want to pay to use the service? Just for the chance to get tied to a crime? No, it'll just be criminals getting tied to each other's crimes.

    16. Re:"anonymous" cash by fafalone · · Score: 1

      The US arrests known malware authors when they step foot in the country as well. Quite a few such cases have been covered here.

    17. Re:"anonymous" cash by gravewax · · Score: 1

      No that depends both on the jurisdiction of the tumbler and the jurisdiction of anyone using or operating the service. It is a highly risky business to be in as almost certainly you will have someone as a customer from one of the great many countries that require transparency in said transactions to prevent money laundering.

    18. Re:"anonymous" cash by Rockoon · · Score: 2

      This requires that the government recognize bitcoin as being a currency, something most governments arent willing to do.

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    19. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imply does not mean what you seem to think it means.

    20. Re:"anonymous" cash by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      Flamebait? The government(s) often throw in money laundering just to fuck with the defendant, but "tumbling" seems to be the very essence of money laundering. I'm not saying that I think it *must* be traceable, I'm not, but why mod that down? Is that "-1, I don't like it"?

    21. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he fails to provide the password he go to jail anyway.

    22. Re:"anonymous" cash by Megol · · Score: 1

      How about taking his computer with him? That's pretty damn stupid.

    23. Re:"anonymous" cash by TFAFalcon · · Score: 1

      Does the same apply to physical bills? So for example must a bank keep track of which serial numbers were deposited by which customer and which were given out?

      Must a shop keep record of serial numbers when splitting a larger bill?

    24. Re:"anonymous" cash by BabyAndTheButterfly · · Score: 2

      With tumblers you exchange dirty money for dirty money - not much of an improvement really - also it can be a honeypot.

    25. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That the libertarians keep being burnt by bitcoin scams is just hillarious. You would think some introspections would lead to the "OHH, that is why we have government" moment. but nope. just means libertarian harder.

    26. Re:"anonymous" cash by slashrio · · Score: 1

      Valid point.

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    27. Re:"anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No - because even the largest bill is peanuts compared to the kind of money people bother to 'launder'.

    28. Re: "anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no such thing as âmoney launderingâ(TM). It is a made-up âcrimeâ(TM). Therefore, anything can be âmoney launderingâ(TM). It just depends on the create way our owners wish to apply it. Using cash at all in the USA can garner a âmoney launderingâ(TM) charge and youâ(TM)ll have to prove yourself innocent.

    29. Re: "anonymous" cash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, civil forfeiture is why we have government too. Few of which are not hopelessly corrupt. Because the alternative is imperfect does not mean an alternative is not necessary or even desirable. Itâ(TM)s not like the government is a panacea of the ills which you describe. The IRS empties bank accounts daily, of both the guilty and the innocent. Negative interest rates are on-deck too. You roll the dice no matter what you do.

  5. A public ledger or pseudonymous transactions... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    ... Is not the same as 'anonymity' because in a criminal case you just catch people and offer them immunity if they help you find the identity of the other people they sent or received money from.

    tl;dr - if you're doing illegal stuff Bitcoin is much less anonymous than cash transactions.

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  6. "Beard-growing competition" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously a Libertarian, motorcycle gang member, or ham radio operator.

    1. Re: "Beard-growing competition" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most lazy competition ever.
      The guys at EVO fighting games tournament are probably in better shape than "beard growers."

    2. Re:"Beard-growing competition" by myowntrueself · · Score: 0

      Obviously a Libertarian, motorcycle gang member, or ham radio operator.

      Going to the USA for anything is dumb but for this, with his background? Very very stupid.

      Even totally innocent people (are there any?) should think twice about entering the USA.

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    3. Re: "Beard-growing competition" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, throwing a beard growing competition was probably the best honetpot evah for snaring a dude like this one.

    4. Re:"Beard-growing competition" by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2

      Obviously a Libertarian, motorcycle gang member, or ham radio operator.

      or a Linux sysadmin...

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    5. Re:"Beard-growing competition" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or a Linux sysadmin...

      As a Linux sysadmin who can't grow a proper beard, there is a world of difference between "growing a beard" and "never learned to shave".

  7. A beard growing competition!! by connect4 · · Score: 3

    This was the DEA's greatest sting yet! Would he have won!? We'll never know!

    Bitcoin is like a filter for this type of stupidity.

    1. Re:A beard growing competition!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a fun event.
        I guess you just sit there watching other peoples beards growing.
      Beats watching paint dry.

    2. Re:A beard growing competition!! by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

      I dunno. There's probably a lot of low-digit Slashdot users who could fall for a trap like that.

  8. Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He can attend a beard growing competition but can't take the time to use full disk encryption? Was he stoned on Oxycontin?

    1. Re:Full Disk Encryption by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      He can attend a beard growing competition but can't take the time to use full disk encryption? Was he stoned on Oxycontin?

      He may have indeed used full disk encryption, but customs officers generally require you to unlock your devices when they search them.

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    2. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ummmm.... if you know you have stuff like this on your computer, my legal advice to you is that you do NOT unlock your device when they ask you to.

    3. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The encryption keys were hidden in his beard!

    4. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of the full disk encryption suites out there are known to have been compromised by the NSA. In fact the NSA contributed code to truecrypt before its demise. That should tell you something.

    5. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Plugh · · Score: 1

      Better yet, use VeraCrypt and store an encrypted volume undetectably inside an encrypted volume. Now you can say, "oh darn you got me, here is the decryption key" and they get access to all your gramma's super-secret recipies. And have literally no way of knowing about the extra encrypted volume

    6. Re:Full Disk Encryption by gweihir · · Score: 1

      And fail. Unless you do this exactly right, which is not easy, you will leave traces. No, I am not going to explain how, there is enough information on the Internet that describes this. And since they only need a credible suspicion (not proof) of hidden encrypted data, they can hold you forever on that alone.

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    7. Re:Full Disk Encryption by fafalone · · Score: 1

      It wasn't a random border search, he was already arrested, then searched, so it's an issue for court. Here's how your clever little loophole would play out there:
      DA: 'Your Honor, our "evidence" indicates he has files x,y related to crime z. However, the password provided did not reveal those files, and his software is capable of creating a secondary password that reveals more files."
      Judge: 'Very well, Mr. Plugh is hereby held in contempt until such time as he provides the files requested.'
      Defense: 'But Your Honor, my client has already provided his decrypted volume and there's no evidence he created another, so I request that motion be denied.'
      Judge: 'Well that's not what the DA says. Request denied, defendant shall be remanded into custody. Adjourned.'

      A few courts aren't quite ready to shred the 5th Amendment so law enforcement doesn't have to be bothered with civil rights in their pursuit of $todaysbogeyman, but most are, and I'm not holding out much hope SCOTUS will do the right thing, they almost always rule that law enforcement's desires outweigh civil rights.

    8. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Plugh · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. The wise criminal, therefore, will store something illegal in the first encrypted container. Pirated movies, say, or evidence of a low-level white-collar crime. Something that will carry a fine, maybe even a short incarceration (likely served in parole since this is a first time after all). The prosecutor gets *something*, and a few weeks or months later, the operation is back on line and the oxycontin continues to flow

    9. Re: Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Truecrypt and Veracrypt have been code audited. Yea, maybe there are some kinds of hidden something that security experts can't see in source code... but Veracrypt js open source and paid for an audit, what more can they do?

    10. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make sure you have an identically named, but innocent, file of any file you keep in the 2nd layer encryption.

    11. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make sure you have an identically named, but innocent, file of any file you keep in the 2nd layer encryption in the first layer of encryption. Then you can provide files x and y.

    12. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Nostalgia4Infinity · · Score: 1

      And don't open with any app that makes temporary copies, map to the same drive letter, open the innocent one after the not so one, just to be sure.

    13. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Nostalgia4Infinity · · Score: 1

      *open, edit, save*

    14. Re: Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a code audit is just a PR piece of Bullshit which only the uneducated trust as a means of verification. a well hidden exploit can look like perfectly legitimate code and pass both automated and manual security code audits, especially if it is in a large enough piece of code you could spend years auditing and not find it. Hell the exploit might not even be in the codebase itself, it could be in the compilers it uses, or triggered by a condition in the OS or from a library it leverages etc etc. I bet that not even the auditors will give you an ironclad guarantee as to its security if they are being perfectly honest, they are merely saying they couldn't find an issue.

    15. Re:Full Disk Encryption by fafalone · · Score: 1

      You're still talking about defending against random searches. If they think you have specific evidence related to a specific crime, they're not just going to shrug it off and drop the issue.

    16. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The encryption keys were hidden in his beard!

      Well he is allegedly a bearded villain.

    17. Re:Full Disk Encryption by gweihir · · Score: 1

      And fail.

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    18. Re: Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He had half a million in bitcoin and he couldnâ(TM)t buy another âoecleanâ laptop to travel with?

    19. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't a random border search, he was already arrested, then searched, so it's an issue for court. Here's how your clever little loophole would play out there:

      DA: 'Your Honor, our "evidence" indicates he has files x,y related to crime z. However, the password provided did not reveal those files, and his software is capable of creating a secondary password that reveals more files."

      Judge: 'Very well, Mr. Plugh is hereby held in contempt until such time as he provides the files requested.'

      Defense: 'But Your Honor, my client has already provided his decrypted volume and there's no evidence he created another, so I request that motion be denied.'

      Judge: 'Well that's not what the DA says. Request denied, defendant shall be remanded into custody. Adjourned.'

      A few courts aren't quite ready to shred the 5th Amendment so law enforcement doesn't have to be bothered with civil rights in their pursuit of $todaysbogeyman, but most are, and I'm not holding out much hope SCOTUS will do the right thing, they almost always rule that law enforcement's desires outweigh civil rights.

      Defense: Your Honor, to what evidence does counsel refer when he says that said alleged evidence "indicates he has files x,y related to crime z."? My client knows of no such files, but would be happy to cooperate in any way he can. I move that the prosecution produce evidence of the existence of said alleged files or in the alternative that the Prosecutions motion be denied on the grounds that it is lacking in specificity and not supported by probable cause."

    20. Re:Full Disk Encryption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how to spot a clueless windows user.

  9. Bring your computer... by bidule · · Score: 1

    Who is stupid enough to bring a "work" computer into the United States?

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    1. Re:Bring your computer... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Somebody that is stupid enough to trust in the anonymity of a not really anonymous crypto-currency, apparently.

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    2. Re:Bring your computer... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      There is a time and a place for "steganography" Border crossings are one of those.

    3. Re:Bring your computer... by Enigma2175 · · Score: 2

      Has nobody heard of the world-wide network known as "The Internet"? Why would you take any incriminating data past a border crossing if you can just download it once you are in the country? Using steganography would mean one would have to think ahead, and if you're thinking ahead you wouldn't physically bring your incriminating data past the border anyway. The exception would be authoritarian countries that have the entire country firewalled off, but even in that case it is easier to get around the firewall than it is to bring data past the border.

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  10. Victory!!! ...? by fafalone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Surely the War On Drugs has been won now right??? Or we're at least really close??

    What, no?? But how can that be! All other drug dealers must have seen the life sentence and were immediately deterred, no?

    Look, drugs like oxycodone/heroin/opiates and cocaine are extremely dangerous and can have devastating consequences when they're abused. Nobody is denying that. But they can't be forcibly eradicated. Given that, drug policy should seek to *minimize* the harm these drugs cause; but prohibition instead *maximizes* it.
    To repeat what I said last time this came up,
    The real problem is our inability accept facts and logic. Eliminating drug abuse by forcefully stopping it wasn't an entirely unreasonable thing to try, especially back then when the issue wasn't well studied. But it's 100 years now since the first drug prohibition, and >40 of the modern War on Drugs. It has been demonstrated beyond any doubt that no matter how harsh the penalties, even the death penalty for drugs some countries have, prohibition does not work. Anybody can get any drug they want, even in maximum security prisons. Our 4th Amendment rights are nearly dead largely because of this. Loads of other rights are seriously damaged. Police becoming heavily armed soldiers with us as the enemy are a consequence of this. You might be able to justify all that, and the millions upon millions of lives ruined, and the hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars spent, if it was eliminating or seriously reducing the harm drugs cause to society... but it unequivocally is not.
    Drugs like cocaine, heroin, and meth have horrific consequences when they're abused; to the user, to their family, and to society. Since eliminating them is absolutely never gonna happen, we should instead pick the policy that minimizes the harm caused. Most people are simply incapable of accepting that criminal prohibition instead takes these very harmful substances, and increases their harm by orders of magnitude, and strips everyone of their civil rights.
    If you want to:
    -Minimize the number of addicts,
    -Minimize the number of ODs,
    -Minimize acquisitive crime (property crime to raise money),
    -Minimize violent crimes,
    -Maximize opportunities for people with abuse issues to get help,
    Then you have to provide tightly regulated, but legal, access, to all drugs. There's been extensive studies on this, it's not some random idea, it's a thoroughly studied and validated fact. Use does not increase. Portugal decriminalized all drugs for personal use; use went down. Turns out there's not loads of people saying 'gee, I sure wish heroin wasn't illegal, I'd try it otherwise'; something compounded by the fact the people most likely to develop an abuse issue are the least likely to be deterred by legality. All of the money currently spent on prohibition would instead go to education, prevention, and treatment- every dollar spent on that reduces drug abuse more than a dollar spent on prohibition. The money taken away from violent criminal organizations would completely cripple them. There'd be more cooperation with police who weren't constantly breaking down doors and shooting dogs, or sexually assaulting people on the side of the road with cavity searches (seriously, google roadside cavity search). There'd be less harassment when police couldn't bump their numbers with petty drug crimes.
    It's a hard fact to swallow, because you see the damage drugs can do, and desperately want that to never happen. But since that's impossible, you have to instead mitigate. However bad you think a given drug is, prohibition makes it worse. Whenever you say "Well, $x shouldn't be illegal because $y", $y is made worse, not better, by keeping it illegal.

    Additionally, Portugal has gone farther down this route than any other country, decriminalizing even cocaine and heroin for personal use. The result? The number of addicts plummeted, and remains far below the rest of Europe. Violent crime went down. Drug usage didn't go up. The NYTimes just covered this.

    1. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shit man, trying to read that word salad makes me want drugs.

    2. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or instead of that wall of words, make trafficing a capital offense.A few hundred deaths later, problem solved.

    3. Re: Victory!!! ...? by jasonma84 · · Score: 2

      Of course there are easier, more rational approaches that would nearly eradicate the drug epidemic in the US. No half intelligent person would dispute that fact. Like most issues in the US though, they are intentional, self inflicted and mostly driven by greed. The war on drugs fits into every aspect of the government's agenda so will likely not be replaced anytime soon. The reason it hasn't ended is because nobody in the government or contractors want it to end. Same reason we will stay in a perpetual state of war, it's profitable. Obviously there is no real threat, there hasn't been since invention of atomic weapons. That's why the US has to fly halfway around the world to bomb a bunch of randoms in the desert.

  11. Easy question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because some of his customers were in the USA and he was dumb enough to fly to Texas. Not that he would've likely gotten away, anyhow: selling drugs is illegal on both sides and there are extradition treaties in place.

    I suggest taking a class on legal procedure if this is confusing to you. It's not the least bit surprising to me.

    1. Re: Easy question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 'but it was on the Internet' clause was supposed to protect him.

    2. Re:Easy question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he insists on selling people things that enable them to harm themselves instead of things that enable them to harm others then he DESERVES to be punished in the USA.

    3. Re: Easy question by LinuxLuver · · Score: 1

      Nailed it.

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  12. Orange Beard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have to say he does have an excellent orange beard. He will probably be more butthurt from the jail making him cut that off than the sentence itself.

  13. Remember Bitcoin's unsafe! In other news... by TheZeitgeist · · Score: 1

    ...drug lords, kid touchers, and terrorists laundered another couple billion in fiat currency today.

    Just like any other day.

  14. Basic OpSec? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would anyone who runs a dark web market enter the United States with a laptop? How f'ing amateur is that? He shouldn't have even had a smartphone. Go to an internet cafe or buy a $300 Chromebook when you arrive.

  15. Seems suspicious by phorm · · Score: 1

    So he knew enough about how to use the darknet, bitcoin, and PGP, but not to encrypt his actual files/login or store them outside of local storage.

    Seems a little off to me.

    1. Re:Seems suspicious by jwhyche · · Score: 3

      That was the first thing that entered my mind. His laptop HD wasn't encrypted?

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    2. Re:Seems suspicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean she. She was a MILF supporter that got her husband to donate $100k so Muslim terrorists in the Philippines.

    3. Re:Seems suspicious by quantaman · · Score: 1

      That was the first thing that entered my mind. His laptop HD wasn't encrypted?

      How many people here don't do proper backups?

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    4. Re:Seems suspicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife is from the Philippines, and she is an Islamist that supports terrorist, but even she doesn't support the MILFs. They're extremists even among terrorists.

    5. Re: Seems suspicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife has nothing to do with Islam, but she sure is a MILF.

    6. Re:Seems suspicious by gravewax · · Score: 1

      like most criminals he never expected to actually be caught in person so his defences were all for online. Idiotic yes, but hardly unusual as he wouldn't actually be doing the crime let alone travelling to the US if he expected to be caught.

  16. He may Deserve it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If he is dealing drugs, and also has poor Opsec like this, then he deserves to be busted. I for one am happy when dealers have poor Opsec. It makes us all safer, and reduces the likelihood of feds backdooring the innocent.

  17. What's missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... evidence led to a warrant being issued for Vallerius' arrest.

    So they arrested him, searched him, realized he was 'OxyMonster', issued a warrant, presumably arrested him again!

    Am I missing something? Something is certainly missing: Is the FBI using parallel construction again?

    1. Re:What's missing by Kaenneth · · Score: 0, Troll

      The current opinion of the US Govt. is that 'Inalienable Human Rights' are only for US Citizens.

    2. Re:What's missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, they had online evidence from traced transactions, his social media in sufficient quantities to be able to issue an arrest warrant prior to him coming to the US, once in the US he was then arrested and searched and the additional evidence on the laptop was found.

  18. Not surprising by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    Vallerius flew to the U.S. for a beard-growing competition in Austin, Texas

    Proving once again, as many cops say, most crooks are stupid.

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    1. Re:Not surprising by Gussington · · Score: 2

      Proving once again, as many cops say, most crooks are stupid.

      Cops are stupid too, the difference is they get be wrong as many times as they like, whereas the crooks only have to get it wrong once and they are taken out of circulation. So the game is biased in favour of the cops, it has nothing to do with smarts.

    2. Re:Not surprising by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      Proving once again, as many cops say, most crooks are stupid.

      Cops are stupid too, the difference is they get be wrong as many times as they like, whereas the crooks only have to get it wrong once and they are taken out of circulation. So the game is biased in favour of the cops, it has nothing to do with smarts.

      In my experience, most cops aren't that stupid, especially compared to crocks; although I agree tehy have an advantage as they only have to be right once whereas a crook can't make a mistake.

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  19. Sounds like a PSA by clovis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The story sounds like a PSA for what happens if you do drugs.
    So here is someone making a boatload of money from a criminal enterprise, but nonetheless decides it would be a good idea to fly to the USA carrying almost as much incriminating evidence as possible. And in a world that has an Internet with every photo app imaginable, he does it so people can look at his beard in person. In the USA.
    This is your brain on drugs.

    1. Re:Sounds like a PSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this modded insightful? Stupidity exists everywhere, not just in the minds of drug users.

    2. Re: Sounds like a PSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a fucking idiot. He was a drug dealer, not a drug addict you moron.

      Your brain sober is worse than my brain high. Fuck.

    3. Re: Sounds like a PSA by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Well OK he's just very stupid on a permanent, sober basis, rather than temporarily very stupid because he's on something.

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  20. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or stop being authoritarian garbage and leave people alone

  21. Should have used Monero! by Plugh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is why more and more darknet marketplaces are accepting Monero. It's like having a mixer built in to the protocol itself. And to make things even better, the Monero blockchain is itself encrypted. Unless you are one of the participants in a transaction, you can't see what address the coins were sent from, who they were sent to, or how much was sent. And they are in the process of integrating with i2p for even better anonymity.

    Disclaimer: I hold quite a bit of Monero. But that's because I honestly think it's the best and fastest-growing "privacy cryptocurrency"

  22. Re: Victory!!! ...? by fafalone · · Score: 2

    There are a number of countries where trafficking *is* a capital offense, and dozens to hundreds of traffickers are executed every year. It doesn't work; drugs remain readily available and usage rates are no lower than similar countries with lesser penalties. There's a principle in criminal justice, not just limited to drug sentences... any sentence above 20-25 years has no additional deterrent effect, because someones life is effectively over at that point anyway.

  23. Re: Victory!!! ...? by fafalone · · Score: 1

    I know it's a long rant, but it's a complex issue. People have a strong emotional response to the idea of legalizing hard drugs, and overcoming that and the "it's bad so it must be stopped" reaction is an uphill climb, chipping away one by one at the reasons people can't bring themselves to accept reality.

  24. Not bitcoin by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    Not encrypting his harddisk did him in.

  25. Re:Victory!!! ...? by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Surely the War On Drugs has been won now right??? Or we're at least really close??

    Really close. For something like 100 years now. There are even statistics that show this war is getting more and more expensive, while the number of drug-addicts is long-term stable. Imagine what would happen if all that money would not be spent on fighting drugs. The US would probably have a billion addicts within a few years!

    My personal take is that this "war on drugs" is really a religious extremist "war on fun", where anything besides prayer must never be fun. If they had not failed so badly with alcohol, using that would probably get you a life-sentence these days as well. And then everything else the religious fuckups do not want you to have any fun with. I agree, decriminalization, medical-grade drugs, reasonable prices and clear warnings with the instructions how to use this stuff is the only thing that will minimize damage to individuals and society. It takes two brain-cells to rub together to see that, and the religious do not have these. And yes, that is not a really good situation, but it is vastly better than this insane "war".

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  26. Life sentence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean a couple of years, maybe. But life? The same as murderers? Violent criminals?

    Is this justice, or just revenge?

    1. Re:Life sentence? by buck-yar · · Score: 1

      Good. Serves him right for peddling shit that ruins peoples lives.

    2. Re: Life sentence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the same could be said about many corporatations.

      Fuck off man. Those people chose to ruin their lives. He didn't force them to buy anything. He didn't advertise, they actively chose to find him and his services. He's in prison now, so now someone else has already stepped up to replace him. So effectively nothing has changed. Zilch, nada, same shit that happen yesterday will happen today. Rinse wash repeat.

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  27. Poor opsec by WorBlux · · Score: 1

    Encrypt your hard drives, and then power down the device before going through any checkpoint. You may want to keep some of your coin in a cold wallet for bail and/or a lawyer.

  28. Why does USA Care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, Why is this guy being arrested? The only drugs that he is responsible for is selling to and from Europe and the site is hosted overseas. What are they charging him with?

  29. You're missing the point by rsilvergun · · Score: 1, Insightful

    of the war on drugs, which is getting rid of undesirables.

    Think of it like this. If you're poor odds are good you take some drugs to cope or know somebody who does. Now, ask yourself what happens if you wander into a a well-to-do neighborhood to say use their parks or send your kid to their schools? You get arrested. And with Civil Asset Forfeiture law you don't even have to be guilty of anything.

    Don't believe me? Who were the biggest pot smokers around the time it was made illegal? Answer: Mexican migrants. Who do we associate most with opioid addiction? The Chinese. And take a look at our current drug policy of 'legal on the state level but not on the federal'. It's the best of both worlds. You can still crack down on the poors while letting the rich toke up.

    Basically, it's yet another example of class warfare. If you're paying attention you'll find plenty of folks denying that a class war's going on. That's because the best kind of war is one the other side doesn't know it's fighting.

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    1. Re:You're missing the point by fafalone · · Score: 2

      That's absolutely why the ruling class wants the War On Drugs. Alcohol and tobacco got a pass because they were the preferred substances of the rich, white, and powerful... while, as you describe, other drugs were preferred by undesirable minorities. Just look at how they justified it... running commercials about how marijuana or cocaine caused nice white girls to lose their minds and start sleeping with black people (something largely viewed as morally repugnant at the time, kind of like how we regard bestiality today).
      In the 1980s, you had the same principle play out again. While they couldn't use propaganda as overtly racist, crack was preferred by poor black people, while powder cocaine was preferred by rich white people. So thinly veiled racist propaganda led to requiring 100x as much powder cocaine to trigger the same mandatory prison terms as crack.

      But outside of the ruling class, that's not why prohibition is still favored by 80-90%+ of both Republicans and Democrats. Even when you exclude those who benefit financially from the massive police/prison complex, prohibition is still favored by overwhelming majorities.
      That's coming from an inability or unwillingness to understand reality. People see the damage these drugs do, and desperately want it to never happen. Hard drugs are *bad*, therefore they must be banned; they're just too dangerous to be legal. That's the end of the story for most people; a fundamental axiom with a strong emotional component. It doesn't matter that everyone can still get them despite civil-rights crushing harsh laws; if it's not working, the only option is to try harder.
      From there, people split into two subgroups. It takes an open mind and a significant amount of analysis to realize that prohibition will never work, and trying to enforce it creates a massive amount of harm, including destroying civil rights for *everyone*.
      The first subgroup realizes the damage, but doesn't care, because drugs are evil; so punishing addicts instead of helping them is desired, and whatever damage to society arises out of that is just the price that has to be paid to fight evil. These are the sadomoralists... people like Jeff Sessions; a very popular position on the right.
      Those people aren't amenable to reason, but fortunately only make up a small percent. The rest of the prohibition supporters mean well, but aren't well informed enough or open minded enough to accept that if they truly want to minimize the harm drugs cause, regulated legal access is required (not decriminalizing; that's a step in the right direction but leaves a whole host of problems as the black market is still in control and money is still spent on police and prisons instead of education, prevention, and treatment).

      If that second subgroup woke up, they'd have a loud enough voice to push through changes in the law. It's happening, but very slowly. Marijuana is a promising first step, and more and more there's pushback in other areas. We'll see where the next few decades take us, but it's a near certainty that far future history text books will speak of drug prohibition as a massive human rights abuse, and its supporters no better than those who fought to preserve slavery, deny women the vote, and enforce Jim Crow era segregation- people who masqueraded as championing traditional values or preventing society from falling apart, but were either just sadists or people who didn't comprehend how much damage they were really causing instead of preventing.

    2. Re:You're missing the point by theArtificial · · Score: 1

      While they couldn't use propaganda as overtly racist, crack was preferred by poor black people, while powder cocaine was preferred by rich white people. So thinly veiled racist propaganda led to requiring 100x as much powder cocaine to trigger the same mandatory prison terms as crack.

      This contradicts the historical record. The Black Leaders of the time were the ones calling for the stiff penalties due to out of control crime. For example gangs were massively prevalent in the 80s - urban homicide rates corroborate this.

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  30. SHUM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    should have used monero

  31. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 0

    > Of course there are easier, more rational approaches that would nearly eradicate the drug epidemic No half intelligent person would dispute that fact.

    If people had self discipline, as any half-intelligent person should, addiction and drug related crime wouldn't occur. Neither would child abuse or serial murder. And yet, they do. It takes a very small number of "half-unintelligent" people to create enormous problems with addiction, with drug abuse, and with crime resulting from it. Even for reasonable people, the deceit involved in various drug trades has been extremely dangerous. Please look at the economic and social history of tobacco, of alcohol, and even of non-physical addictions like gambling to see a history of rational attempts to control them, and the failure of rational policies.

    Could it be done better? I agree, many US drug policies are outrageous and ineffective. Are there rational approaches that would almost eradicate it? I must disagree: It has roots in human physiology, in human weakness, in crime, and in politics that make it extremely difficult to eradicate. Many are _not_ driven by greed. Many are founded in erroneous ideology. The idea that the war on drugs is a monolithic policy that "fits every aspect of the government's agenda" suggests that it is a thought out plan. I'm afraid it is not. Different members, and different branches, of the Us government have different goals which combine to extend current policies.

    I'm afraid it's not one problem, so it can't be defeated by a single logical analysis.

    > Obviously there is no real threat, there hasn't been since invention of atomic weapons.

    If Io may say, this is disingenuous. There was a real threat from Afghanistan, which was hosting the Taliban. which had just murdered thousands of the most powerful and wealthy US citizens. The next logical target was Pakistan, which had since been hosting the Taliban and which has been selling nuclear technologies around the world. I'd prefer not to discuss why the US targeted Iraq next: it's a long discussion.

    But in terms of the drug trade: sir, I suspect you were not alive during the Vietnam era, when US servicemen were often returning to US soil with opioid addictions. I myself only met, but was not old enough to greet on their return, Korea veterans who returned with similar addictions. The Soviets encountered it in dangerous proliferation when they occupied Afghanistan, one of the world's greatest sources for opium: I'm seeing reports of it now with US troops returning from Afghanistan today. This occurs for _any_ nation that invades Afghanistan. The proliferation of opium dens was a critical part of the Sherlock Holmes stories and Dr. John Watson's return from Afghanistan.

  32. Re: Victory!!! ...? by fredrated · · Score: 1

    The depth of your stupidity is breathtaking.

  33. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    would be nice of ice addicts left people alone, where I live they are a constant menace to the point now police and armed guards need to be stationed at the hospitals as these fuck witts when high will happily beat, stab, assault anyone they see with incredible rage. sadly it isn't possible to just let people be as many of the drugs being taken affect MANY others when those people take them, sometimes in life threatening ways.

  34. Question on Jurisdiction by ytene · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If Vallerius is guilty of the charges being made against him, then I have absolutely no problem with due legal process being used to hand down the appropriate due punishment.

    However, reading the OP, a question regarding jurisdiction springs to mind. The extract quotes a DEA agent, who says (of Vallerius), "His profile listed 60 prior sales and five-star reviews from buyers. In addition, his profile stated that he ships from France to anywhere in Europe."

    I ask this question because I am trying to understand how the Unites States Government believes that it has standing to prosecute in this case? The only logical answer to that question that I can see would be if the transactions conducted on the darknet actually took place on US soil - but even that seems to me to be somewhat of a vague area of international law.

    Perhaps another reader can clarify this point for me: if we have three directly involved parties [a buyer, a seller and the platform-running middle-man] in a transaction, plus perhaps the network connections between them, then how would an international court of law decide the location and/or terms under which a case could be brought? Is it the law of the land for the buyer, the seller or the middleman? Does the fact that any identifiable part of an illegal transaction takes place within a nation's jurisdiction give that nation the right to prosecute a case?

    I will re-iterate what I said at the beginning of this post: I have no sympathy for anyone involved in selling drugs. But in order for society at large to respect the law, we need to trust the law. We need to see that the law is applied transparently, consistently and fairly. We need to understand both the powers and the limits of the law. Without these things, then as individuals within that society, we are at risk from all sorts of different types of corruption and injustice.

    Very interested to know if anyone can clarify this...

    1. Re:Question on Jurisdiction by Gussington · · Score: 1

      Is it the law of the land for ...

      The clue is in the title. If anyone involved in the transaction is in a place (The Land) where the activity is illegal (The Law), then it's illegal in that place and can be tried there.
      TFA doesn't contain enough information, but you can bet it it's on the Internet, someone somewhere transacted with it while on US soil thus triggering the DEA

  35. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    Drugs are far less common in Taiwan than they are in the US or UK and Taiwan has the death penalty for drug trafficking.

    So it clearly works for them.

    https://traveloops.files.wordp...

    Taiwan only executes small numbers of people - about half a dozen a year since 2010.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    The process is fucking metal too

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Executions are carried out by shooting using a handgun aimed at the heart from the back, or aimed at the brain stem under the ear if the prisoner consents to organ donation. The execution time used to be 5:00 a.m., but was changed to 9:00 p.m. in 1995 to reduce officials' workload. It was changed again to 7:30 p.m. in 2010. Executions are performed in secret: nobody is informed beforehand, including the condemned. The execution chamber is located in the prison complex. The condemned is brought to the chamber by car and pays respect to the statue of Ksitigarbha located outside the chamber before entering. Before the execution, the prisoner is brought to a special court next to the execution chamber to have his or her identity confirmed and any last words recorded. The prisoner is then brought to the execution chamber and served a last meal (which includes a bottle of kaoliang). The condemned prisoner is then injected with strong anaesthetic to render him or her completely senseless, laid flat on the ground, face down, and shot. The executioner then burns votive bank notes for the deceased before carrying away the corpse. It is customary for the condemned to place a NT$500 or 1000 banknote in their leg irons as a tip for the executioners.

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  36. Re: Victory!!! ...? by fafalone · · Score: 1

    Are there rational approaches that would almost eradicate it? I must disagree: It has roots in human physiology, in human weakness, in crime, and in politics that make it extremely difficult to eradicate.

    No doubt. None of the policies, prohibition, decriminalizing, or legalization, would almost eradicate it. But which one of those results in the *least* harm to both addicts and society? The answer is legalization (tightly regulated legalization, not talking about over-the-counter).

    I'm afraid it's not one problem, so it can't be defeated by a single logical analysis.

    The details vary, but the policies fall under one of the 3 umbrellas just mentioned. Right now, every single policy in every single state boils down to trying to eradicate drug abuse at the end of a gun, locking people up.

    This occurs for _any_ nation that invades Afghanistan.

    Ironically the Taliban are the only ones to ever stop opium production there. During their rule from 1996-1999, Afghanistan produced around 3,000 metric tons annually. But in 2000, the Taliban banned the growing of poppies. Production plummeted to a mere couple hundred tons the very next year. Then in 2001 the US came along and kicked them out, and despite spending billions on counter-narcotics operations, production shot back up. First back to where it was until 2005, then after 2005 it basically doubled to an unprecedented 8000 tons making them the world leader, all despite the DEA and the military having carte blanche to eradicate it.

    So anyway, when our soldiers return home, what awaits them? They can't openly seek help if they're addicted. The social stigma and risk of prison is too high. If they tell a doctor at the VA, it's put down in their file and obtaining pain relief down the road goes from difficult to outright impossible. The most effective treatment programs are banned anyway; and methadone turns one into a slave, having to show up at a clinic every day, no matter what, or get violently ill. Our soldiers deserve better. They deserve a world where their medical problem isn't a criminal justice problem. Everyone deserves that.

  37. Since when does America care about EU drug sales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The answer is that the corrupt America and its CIA doesn't want anyone cutting in on its profits from covert drug trafficking.

  38. Re: Victory!!! ...? by fafalone · · Score: 3, Interesting
    What drug is, by a wide margin, the most likely to cause violent behavior in the user?
    Alcohol.

    sadly it isn't possible to just let people be as many of the drugs being taken affect MANY others when those people take them, sometimes in life threatening ways.

    But that's what's happening now. They *are* taking those drugs, they *are* hurting other people. Prohibition isn't stopping them. And the evidence is clear, taking the money spent on prohibition and instead spending it on education, prevention, and treatment, and not saddling abusers with a criminal record and unemployment, giving them little to lose, and forcing them to spend all their time in a violent black market, will result in *fewer* instances of them 'beat, stab, assault anyone they see with incredible rage'. Prohibition creates the most instances of that happening.

  39. Re: Victory!!! ...? by fafalone · · Score: 3, Informative

    And Portugal also has far less drug addiction than the US and the UK, despite personal use possession of *all* drugs (including cocaine and heroin) being legal.

    Iran executes hundreds and hundreds of drug traffickers every year. Even their own authorities admit it hasn't done anything to reduce the drug problem in the country. Malaysia will execute you for as little as 200g of pot; the death penalty is the only permissible sentence for many drug crimes. Drug abuse is rampant.

    Are you going to seriously suggest that changing the penalty from a life sentence (current penalty for top traffickers), or 20-25 to life (major traffickers), to the death penalty, would have *any* effect on drug abuse in the US? Especially given the existing evidence that there's no additional deterrent effect beyond 25 years to begin with? The penalties for drugs are already grossly disproportionate to their harm at all levels, and you'd have to increase the penalties on the lowest levels by a *huge* amount to really have an effect. Unfortunately for you we've kinda got this thing here about excessively sadistic punishments. Not to mention the collateral consequences to everybody from laying waste to the rest of the constitution as police power explodes.

  40. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    Are you going to seriously suggest that changing the penalty from a life sentence (current penalty for top traffickers), or 20-25 to life (major traffickers), to the death penalty, would have *any* effect on drug abuse in the US?

    No, I said it worked for Taiwan. The US and Taiwan are very different and executing more people for drug offences in the US probably won't help. On the other hand neither will copying Portugal.

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  41. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't apologize, everything you said is correct but reading more than 100 words is a struggle for some people. Remember those things we had in the old days? Some of them had many thousands of words and no pictures. Books! That's what they were called. Give one of those to a young person and they start crying.

  42. Oh Boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to have to stop ending my emails with Cheers mow.

  43. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing which works in the USA and the solution to every problem is more guns. It's been so successful they try it in other countries - look how well Iraq has done with more guns (tm).

  44. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

    >> This occurs for _any_ nation that invades Afghanistan.

    > Ironically the Taliban are the only ones to ever stop opium production there.

    May I disagree? I suggest that "not being at war" was the factor that curtailed opium production. I suggest that it wasn't merely that the Taliban were in charge, it was that food crops could be grown, harvested, and distributed legally, possibly even at a profit. For people in a war zone, short-term profit with smaller investment and more easily portable goods becomes critical.

    I agree with you that managed legalization is a good step. But it does not seem to be an "approach that would eradicate the drug epidemic". It's not "eradicated" the problem for alcohol or tobacco, it's merely helped contain it.

  45. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fun fact: the taliban are hellbent on eradicating drug use and had been burning poppy fields pretty effectively until the USA ousted them. Bringing back the drug dealers with the Northern Coalition. Nowadays even the Taliban are in the drug trade to finance their war. Yes, the US govt is against drugs... except when it isn't.

  46. Bitcoin isn't the best choice for this anymore. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too many people getting caught via BTC, and BTC requires extra steps to try to wash the coins. There are other projects that are better for anonymity, that don't require anything extra. .

    Monero - survived multiple studies about it's effectiveness. Apparently there's a monero darknet store in the works?
    SumoKoin - based on same codebase/algorithm as Monero, but with some tweaks.
    Zcash - (although there's now some questions about Zcash, it's still accepted to be untraceable)
    Dash - there were some vulnerabilities at some point, those were patched up.

  47. Re: Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ISIS = randoms ?? The breath of your stupidity is ... breathtaking.

  48. why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would a Frenchman enter a beard growing competition? The winners are always Germans or Scandinavians.

  49. Re: Victory!!! ...? by fafalone · · Score: 1
    You disagree with opinions, not with facts. Under Taliban control, opium was steadily produced year after year (fact). Then, they issued a decree banning it (fact). Immediately after, production went from 3000t to 200t (fact). The next year, the Taliban lost power (fact) and production immediately went back up to 3000t (fact). Food crops could always be grown, even for a profit; but they'll never be as profitable. Not only that, the US tried paying farmers to grow legal crops at the same profit level as poppies, but local warlords discouraged that with violence.
    Obviously I'm not suggesting there was anything good about the Taliban, but the fact remains they were able to stop opium production in Afghanistan and the US cannot.

    But it does not seem to be an "approach that would eradicate the drug epidemic". It's not "eradicated" the problem for alcohol or tobacco, it's merely helped contain it.

    I'm not sure who you think is saying that. Not me or anyone else in this thread. I'm saying that among the 3 possible policies, prohibition, decrim, and legalization, the latter minimizes the harm drugs cause. Minimize is not eradicate, which is impossible. If it were possible, prohibition would be a sound policy. But it's not. There will always be substantial problems, but they will be at their lowest levels in a system of regulated legal access and aggressive education, prevention, and (non-coercive) treatment.

  50. Re:Victory!!! ...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My personal take is that this "war on drugs" is really a religious extremist "war on fun", where anything besides prayer must never be fun.

    Sex is much more fun than any drug - and legal. (prostitution is illegal many places, but generally not needed for sex.) If they had a 'war on fun', they lost decisively before even starting.

  51. On his laptop??? by LinuxLuver · · Score: 1

    Surely you'd put this data on your own cloud server / NAS and download AFTER you had arrived? But a laptop when you arrive and take an hour to set it up. You go through Customs clean as a whistle.

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    Only boring people are ever bored.
  52. Re: Victory!!! ...? by fafalone · · Score: 2

    On the other hand neither will copying Portugal.

    And you base that on what? A deep abiding belief that one day our prohibitionist policies will magically start working when they haven't for the past 40 years? Other countries do things like heroin maintenance- giving addicts pharmaceutical heroin- it's been a huge success in every country that's tried it. There's every reason to believe these programs would help the situation in the US and no reason to believe they wouldn't. And given the unmitigated disaster that is our current policy, and the complete lack of evidence to suggest doubling down on it would change anything, there's even less of a reason not to pursue it.

  53. However if he was from the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We would have handed him over on request by US authorities with little evidence and despite the life term which is not equaled in the UK.

    France protects their citizens better. Whodathunk it.

  54. Re:Victory!!! ...? by Gussington · · Score: 1

    Surely the War On Drugs has been won now right??? Or we're at least really close?? What, no?? But how can that be! All other drug dealers must have seen the life sentence and were immediately deterred, no?

    Not all but it has stopped some. For example, I've contemplated some sort of drug trafficking/dealing business as a way to make cash, but every time I do the numbers the risk of a long prison sentence is too great.
    There are measures of success that don't require a 100% hit rate.

  55. Re: Victory!!! ...? by jasonma84 · · Score: 1

    Sometimes the best action is no action at all. This couldn't be applied more appropriately to anyone other than the government. While I agree that there are instances where bad things happen and it is out of everyone's control except for those involved, I largely dispute the idea that the government has to get involved every time something unfortunate happens in the world. In just about every instance where the government has gotten involved whether it be foreign affairs, domestic matters, drugs or policing the net result has almost always been counterproductive to the cause. Whether the driving forces be greed or fear I don't think it dismisses the fact they they are still wrong. To address crime (not just addiction) or terrorism there needs to be a paradigm shift that has to occur. Passing more laws, increasing prison sizes or increasing military budget or going to war while might seem like a quick fix, doesn't really address the underlying problems and in most cases exacerbates them. Law enforcement should really be handed over to the Healthcare Industry. Yes, healthcare, it's a very complicated problem whereas in most instances can be remedied by medication and/or therapy. There are qualified people who go to school for addressing things like this. Only the most heinous crimes where medical treatment has failed should additional measures be taken, not out of necessity for punishment but for public safety. Poverty and the media is another cause but I am not going to get into all the ways to address those as there are many. As for military/war, going to war never solves anything. The bombings in Afghanistan and Iraq will do nothing but radicalize more people and give rise to additional attacks and hate groups. You mention Vietnam... there is nothing good that came out of the US involvement there. There are consequences to all the wars that have taken place and I can imagine that in the decades to follow you will begin to see the result of it, if not already. Any action taken with foreign nations needs to be handled a little more elegantly with a level of humanity, but most importantly not driven by profit, greed or fear.

  56. Need a beardshot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That beard is top notch.

  57. No so common sense by haggie · · Score: 1

    If you are going to sell drugs, launder money, run a gambling website, or whatever offshore. I think it is safe to assume that the U.S. gets crossed off your places to EVER visit along with countries that are willing to do our bidding.