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FCC's Claim That One ISP Counts As 'Competition' Faces Scrutiny In Court (arstechnica.com)

Jon Brodkin reports via Ars Technica: A Federal Communications Commission decision to eliminate price caps imposed on some business broadband providers should be struck down, advocacy groups told federal judges last week. The FCC failed to justify its claim that a market can be competitive even when there is only one Internet provider, the groups said. Led by Chairman Ajit Pai, the FCC's Republican majority voted in April of this year to eliminate price caps in a county if 50 percent of potential customers "are within a half mile of a location served by a competitive provider." That means business customers with just one choice are often considered to be located in a competitive market and thus no longer benefit from price controls. The decision affects Business Data Services (BDS), a dedicated, point-to-point broadband link that is delivered over copper-based TDM networks by incumbent phone companies like AT&T, Verizon, and CenturyLink.

But the FCC's claim that "potential competition" can rein in prices even in the absence of competition doesn't stand up to legal scrutiny, critics of the order say. "In 2016, after more than 10 years of examining the highly concentrated Business Data Services market, the FCC was poised to rein in anti-competitive pricing in the BDS market to provide enterprise customers, government agencies, schools, libraries, and hospitals with much-needed relief from monopoly rates," Phillip Berenbroick, senior policy counsel at consumer advocacy group Public Knowledge said. But after Republicans gained the FCC majority in 2017, "the commission illegally reversed course without proper notice and further deregulated the BDS market, leaving consumers at risk of paying up to $20 billion a year in excess charges from monopolistic pricing," Berenbroick said.

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  1. Fuck Ajit Pai by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's just looking out for a job back at Verizon when he's done.

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    1. Re:Fuck Ajit Pai by GrumpySteen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering there are price caps in place where there isn't enough competition and Trump's FCC is the one trying to declare a single provider monopoly to be a competitive market so that they can remove those price caps, this sounds like you're grasping at straws to blame the Obama administration rather than Trump's.

    2. Re:Fuck Ajit Pai by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'll go better than that: fuck the current republicans. fuck them so bad they all get voted out of office next time.

      if america needed an education about what the R's stand for, they sure got one this time around. anything that helps consumers, the R's are blatantly against. (can you cite anything that contradicts this?)

      I realize that slash has been invaded by the R fans (even though as a tech forum, most of us are clearly NOT R-based in our thinking) but before you mod me down, I'd like you to cite an example of where a modern R has stood up for the regular guy and not for the ultra rich and powerful.

      I'm hoping that this tire fire called 'trump admin' really ruins a lot of people; especially those in red states. they need a harsh awakening and a wake-up call. they have been misled and have been guided into voting against their own best interests.

      I wonder if people really will realize this. I hear lots of talk, but when the next election comes, I have a feeling that the reds will forget all this harm that was done to our country and will follow their 'religion' and continue to fund those that work against the common man.

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    3. Re:Fuck Ajit Pai by dywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      it wont because republicans believe the government is dysfunctional and broken by default.
      when they elect these ass hats who then proceed to break it, they simply reinforce their preexisting ideology (while totally ignoring that they ar the ones that broke it!).
      meanwhile they simultaneously believe that no matter what happens, they themselves will be ok ("my perimeter is secure", "i can take care of myself", "government doesn't benefit me") whilst ignoring everything government actually does for them.

      the republican party is now completely and totally based on delusion and ignorance of reality.

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  2. On what planet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh you're not really starving, you can smell your neighbor's dinner from here.

    1. Re:On what planet... by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      See you don't understand. It's actually harder to compete against imaginary companies. They've got unicorn cavalry and time travelling wizards. How is a real company supposed to compete against unicorn cavalry and time travelling wizards? They can't. We should give those poor monopolist companies a big tax break.

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  3. Republican Corruption, what a surprise? by DMJC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is anyone really surprised by this now? This has been the way of things in America for ages. Democrats aren't even good politicians, just centrist normals. Republicans are so far to the right it's hilariously stupid. America needs a third party and has needed one for years. At least a moderate right party if not a further left party.

    1. Re:Republican Corruption, what a surprise? by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At this point, I'd be happy if we got even a single party that was effective, cared about the nation, wasn't bought off, and wasn't batshit crazy.

    2. Re:Republican Corruption, what a surprise? by spun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except that's not something you get, it's something you make. Effective, sane, and powerful organizations that fight for the rights of the little guy don't just happen by accident. People have to work really hard to create something like that, and most people are just too lazy, unless their very lives are on the line.

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    3. Re:Republican Corruption, what a surprise? by spun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And meanwhile, other people, with far more money and political power, are actively trying to kill off whatever you are trying to build. Then, if you succeed, you will have to actively police your organization forever, to stop the sociopaths from taking over, because all they see is another lever of power.

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    4. Re:Republican Corruption, what a surprise? by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He only self identifies as a republican for political convenience, but he's actually very much a democrat

      Trump is no Republican, I agree, but he isn't anything like a Democrat either. Trump only cares about Trump.

      He's hated by the republicans because he won without their help or approval and isn't beholden to their handlers (those who give them money and keep them in power). He's hated by the democrats simply because he won over the heir apparent.

      I don't think any of this is accurate. Trump is hated by Republicans and Democrats for pretty much the same fundamental reason (although Reps and Dems might disagree on the details): he's a threat to the nation.

    5. Re:Republican Corruption, what a surprise? by spun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's actually list the things Trump and Republicans agree on:
      1. Tighter immigration control
      2. Less regulation on corporations
      3. Lower taxes for the wealthy
      4. Screw the environment (in case 2 didn't make that clear enough)
      5. Screw the LGBT community
      6. Pander to religious fundamentalists
      7. More military spending
      8. Screw minorities
      9. Keep as many people from voting as possible
      10. Repeal Obamacare and make sure poor people can't get healthcare

      As far as I can tell, that is the entirety of the Republican party platform. How is he not a Republican? What are the actual differences? I'm curious. Because the Republican party is bending over pretty far to ingratiate themselves with Trump, even when he insults them to their faces, and meanwhile Trump is trying to do everything they ask him to do. They are one and the same.

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    6. Re:Republican Corruption, what a surprise? by i286NiNJA · · Score: 3, Funny

      Virtually every geopolitical expert in the world disagrees with trump on every issue. His beliefs are all republican propaganda that was intended for the masses and not for internal consumption. He's so wrong that his head almost exploded when he took office and our intelligence services attempted to explain the state of the world to him.
      Not just the CIA and the NSA, his world view is totally incongruent with foreign and private reporting.

    7. Re:Republican Corruption, what a surprise? by spun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So human nature is immutable, and what is currently true about the species will always be true? We're too lazy for direct democracy, and always will be, even with networked computers?

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  4. Drain the swamp by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Led by Chairman Ajit Pai, the FCC's Republican majority voted in April of this year to eliminate price caps in a county if 50 percent of potential customers "are within a half mile of a location served by a competitive provider."

    Oh that seems fair. Not "served by a competitive provider" but rather, "within a half mile of a location served by a competitive provider".

    Which party is doing this shit again?

    Led by Chairman Ajit Pai, the FCC's Republican majority voted in April

    Oh, right.

    But after Republicans gained the FCC majority in 2017, "the commission illegally reversed course without proper notice and further deregulated the BDS market, leaving consumers at risk of paying up to $20 billion a year in excess charges from monopolistic pricing," Berenbroick said.

    Now who's the fucking moron?

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  5. Nobody competes with themselves by cyberchondriac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When is a monopoly not a monopoly? Why, when it's a monopoly, apparently.

    This is beyond idiotic and dovetails nicely into the recent news that Comcast and other ISPs have decided that Americans "pay too little" for their broadband, which is an outrageous claim. Maybe we pay too little for road access too, why not just make all roads toll roads?

    http://www.fiercecable.com/cab...

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  6. Guns Vs. Armies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of rather many flaws in modern American conservatist thought is the idea that because someone has a freedom that they are using to crush someone else, that this is OK, because in theory the other person could spend their life building up the same resources to crush the other guy.

    It's the same logic as with gun freedoms - even the most abject set of mass murders with guns is seen as socially acceptable in aggrigate, because in theory, a 'good' person could have popped up and shot the mass murderers with a gun also - therefore, it's no problem. Even with words mouthed towards mental illness, decade over decade, these same politicians reduce funding for those same mental health issues, AND promote legislation to make it easier for those same mentally ill people to get guns.

    Same here - they mouth words at how bad monopolies are, but put forth legislation and appoint people that makes it easier to form monopolies, and use them to ruin lives on a continuous basis.

    And no, you can't fight against this with individual action - monopolies when they form tend to by definition lock up a crucial resources that prevents you from fighting against them on an individual level. And modern 'conservative' ideology is for the same arbitration systems that prevent you from using the court to fix it, along with countless laws to shelter resources from any victory you could achieve.

    1. Re:Guns Vs. Armies by dave420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's one problem with the "guns protect against tyranny" thing - the armed forces. If they're against the populace, then there's no amount of guns in private hands which can beat them. If they're on the side of the populace, there's no need for the guns, as the armed forces have theirs. Ask soldiers who've returned from Iraq and Afghanistan which they feared more - locals with guns, or locals with explosives.

  7. Re:We suck for allowing this by EndlessNameless · · Score: 3, Informative

    No one is doing a thing about it other than going wahhh wahh wahh.

    No one except the President can do anything about it. Pai is appointed, not elected.

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