Ophelia Became a Major Hurricane Where No Storm Had Before (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: The system formerly known as Hurricane Ophelia is moving into Ireland on Monday, bringing "status red" weather throughout the day to the island. The Irish National Meteorological Service, Met Eireann, has warned that, "Violent and destructive gusts of 120 to 150km/h are forecast countrywide, and in excess of these values in some very exposed and hilly areas. There is a danger to life and property." Ophelia transitioned from a hurricane to an extra-tropical system on Sunday, but that only marginally diminished its threat to Ireland and the United Kingdom on Monday, before it likely dissipates near Norway on Tuesday. The primary threat from the system was high winds, with heavy rains. Forecasters marveled at the intensification of Ophelia on Saturday, as it reached Category 3 status on the Saffir-Simpson scale and became a major hurricane. For a storm in the Atlantic basin, this is the farthest east that a major hurricane has been recorded during the satellite era of observations. Additionally, it was the farthest north, at 35.9 degrees north, that an Atlantic major hurricane has existed this late in the year since 1939.

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Those were the days.

[ScentCone]

Back in 1939, when global warming was much worse!

No, I'm not saying things aren't warmer. But I do think we're overplaying many current observations (in terms of where and how we're spotting weather conditions with unprecedentedly sophisticated modern tools and record keeping) as being "never before seen!" - when we actually mean, "since we started using satellites and doppler radar and storm chasing aircraft" or "since a few decades ago, because who can expect a panic to sound as good if we include things that last happened longer ago than the beginning of this year."

Re:Those were the days.

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks for making my point.

You are turning up on a forum where quite a few of the people present have scientific education and expecting to get statements like "expect a panic to sound as good" past us as if we were a bunch of daily mail readers incapable of counting our own socks. Even if we aren't climate scientists able to analyse the details of specific models, we are all perfectly capable of reading through the evidence and history of claims and seeing that you belong to a group of people who are systematically lying; Talking about "pauses" and "reversal" where there was none; misrepresenting what other people were saying and selecting evidence.

When you turn up as first post and think that we can't see that you are a dupe of big oil you are look like a "fucking idiot". If you really believe what you say (and there are some here who do) then the term using the term "retarded faggot" is an insult to both the educationally "retarded" and to bundles of wood who would appear to have more credibility in the scientific space than you ever will.

Possibly we should be arguing with you point by point, showing how you are wrong because things called "ships" existed before there were aircraft. However, next you would just select a different sock puppet and start to talk about how "hurricanes are good really because they generate more wind energy" or something equally stupid. Occasionally, just occasionally it's best to just call you out for what you are. An (probably incapable of fucking) idiot.

Re:Those were the days.

[Ol Olsoc]

We just started using satellites and doppler radar and storm chasing aircraft last year???

No, but since they haven't seen a storm like that since 1939, current reporting implies it's never happened before. And depending on what network you're watching, it has only happened because Trump became president in January. Try to keep up. That wasn't a storm that hit Puerto Rico, it's all part of his genocide plan. You can tell, because a politician said so.

By golly, I must say that it's pretty impressive to selectively quote even from the summary, then ignore even that to say that your enemies have a one year attention span, then use your completely made up bizzare strawman to exonerate your man Trump from no claim anyone other that a communist alternate ego of Pat Robertson would make.

It's really quite simple And by the way, are you really saying that because they reported that "since 1939" thing, that it means "never happened before"?

Are you really implying that when teh press reports that X number of people killed in such and such, in the worst fighting since last month, that they are saying that a war that might have been going on for years didn't start until last week.

Re:ex-Hurricane Debbie hit Ireland Sept, 1961

[deviated_prevert]

And this is exactly the point Debbie was Sept 16 now we are now dealing with high water temps in the Atlantic causing major storms in Ireland a full month later. A huge difference and like comparing apples to oranges. The warm surface water is staying around much longer and is spreading much further to the north and this is a real problem.

It might not even be over quite yet for the Caribbean and even perhaps the Gulf of Mexico. Check out NOAA the water temps are still way up for this time of year. The mid 80s f is still well up in the range that intensifies storms to hurricanes. The mid Atlantic is still over 80 so we could still see some dangerous storms, here is hoping that this is the end for this year at least for the sake of the poor people of those countries. Aside from which, some of Trumps friends in the oil industry might have to delay their bone fishing and that would be an absolute catastrophe.