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Star Trek: Discovery Is Returning For a Second Season (engadget.com)

Engaget reports that CBS' Star Trek: Discovery series is being renewed for a second season. The show has reportedly been enough of a success to justify a second season of episodes. From the report: The move comes as a vote of confidence for both the show and its platform, since it has recently aired the sixth of its fifteen-episode first season. Now, a second run of Discovery will air, presumably at some point toward the back-half of 2018. Discovery has certainly benefited from plenty of hype, since it's the first Trek show to air as a TV show since 2005. The pull of the Star Trek name was always going to be a draw, but it wasn't clear how much of a draw given the saga's lackluster popularity at the box office. CBS refused to offer numbers, but did boast that Discovery's debut lead to the highest number of sign-ups in the history of its All Access service.

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  1. whatever by ourlovecanlastforeve · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't give a shit I'm not signing up for their stupid pointless streaming service just to watch one show. 0% chance the show will remain exclusive forever. I can wait.

    1. Re:whatever by cyberzephyr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's a solid show but this pay channel crap screws everything up. paying for one show is dumb since folks pay a ton of money for channels they DON'T watch.

      I'm surprised that there are folks that would pay for another channel for what, a single show?

      I see the Production value and it is very good but. That is not the Trek way.

      I feel that the only folks getting this show are wealthy fans and Pirates.

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    2. Re:whatever by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, you might as well wait. Everyone outside the US gets a better deal.

      Canadians get it through the Space channel with surround sound.
      Everyone else gets it through Netflix, presumably with surround sound.

      Americans get it through a streaming service with crappy stereo sound.

      I'm presuming there's actually a lot of viewers outside the US that's causing a lot of the interest, though I know of a few people who really did sign up for just one show.

    3. Re:whatever by TheCarp · · Score: 5, Interesting

      A solid show maybe but, there was less Star Trek in the free episode I saw than in the first five minutes of the average Orville episode.

      I can't say anything redeemable about the free episode other than "nice graphics" but, Star Trek used to be the show that proved special effects were not all Sci Fi had to offer; so that was kind of a step backwards.

      Then I can't even really complement the special effects because of all the lens flare someone shat all over perfectly good video.

      They failed to sell me, and up to this point, I watched every single live action Trek show in existence.

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    4. Re:whatever by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > Everyone outside the US gets a better deal.

      Not true; all people in the US have to do is tune in when its broadcast at 9/8 central on Fox thursdays.

      The spirit of Trek is alive and well, and CBS has nothing to do with it.

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    5. Re:whatever by thomst · · Score: 5, Interesting

      TheCarp opined:

      A solid show maybe but, there was less Star Trek in the free episode I saw than in the first five minutes of the average Orville episode.

      Agreed. And you're far from alone in that assessment ...

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  2. ARRRK BLAAARKK GARRRRK! by Mats+Svensson · · Score: 5, Funny

    As overrated as it is overexposed and oversaturated.

  3. It kinda sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't imagine many of those subscriptions will be around for season 2.

    The show itself kinda sucks. A lot of the technology bullshit is so far out there it's not even something you can remotely imagine as being real. There was a certain charm to the older series because you'd see stuff on the show and think "well, OK, maybe we'll see that in 50-100 years if we're lucky". Discovery is packed full of so much random crap you kinda look at it and go "uhhhh no, not gonna happen". It's like they decided to transition from futuristic-but-almost-plausible to outright space magic because that was easier to write.

    Everything else feels like a bog standard Hollywood action movie with tons of CG. It's almost well done enough that it's generally watchable, but again, it isn't Star Trek. I don't find myself thinking about the implications of what's going in the show, in fact, I don't find myself thinking very much at all when I'm watching it. It's just kinda senseless action with the Star Trek name bolted on because OMG recognizable franchise.

    I'm pretty sure it's going to get really old really fast (I'm already starting to get bored with it). Once they run out of inertia from the hype and name alone, the show is doomed.

    1. Re:It kinda sucks. by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I 100% agree with the science issue.

      All of a sudden 20 years before Kirk and the Enterprise (reboot or not) they have a drive that teleports the ship to any known sector, and the technology is based on a network of mushroom spores that permeates the entire universe, and they first were using a GIANT TARDIGRADE as a supercomputer to control the drive, and the main character is SPOCKS ADOPTED SISTER THAT YOU NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE? AND SHE HAS A BOYS NAME?

      On top of that... its another SOAP OPERA. Instead of producing stand-alone shows every show is a continuation of a long assed story?

      The only "good" thing about the show seems to be that its not as overwhelmingly SJW as we were led to believe (we were led to believe it was like that one "fan" produced show with gratuitous 5 minute homosexual make-out scenes in half the episodes!)

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    2. Re:It kinda sucks. by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Funny

      that teleports the ship to any known sector, and the technology is based on a network of mushroom spores that permeates the entire universe, and they first were using a GIANT TARDIGRADE as a supercomputer to control the drive

      Dilithium crystals are no longer a rare source of plot devices in Starfleet.

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    3. Re:It kinda sucks. by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Interesting

      With the difference being that TNG is set way, way after TOS. Discovery is supposedly set before.

      TOS is set in 2200. 200 years ago, in 1800, we were still busy exploring our planet, but we had most of it mapped out. The steam engines are a new technology that boosted our progress considerably and we were progressing technologically at a speed never experienced before. People from that time would probably consider ours an utopia, mostly concerning our social achievements and the fact that we basically eliminated hunger at least in our "civilized" areas of the planet, a problem that was really huge back then, with worker famines being a constant problem. They would probably also be amazed at the way greater equality (note: We're talking about a world where a royal could still beat peasants with impunity in many "civilized" areas of the planet, and where owning people was maybe no longer considered decent and normal by some, but definitely legal in many areas). I think that would astound them more than our technical advances, like I said, they live in the age of the steam engine which was propelling advances forward faster than ever before, things were changing rapidly in that time.

      So they would probably accept that we mastered flight, even though it seems impossible to them, much like FTL-travel seems to us now. But we can consider it possible. Likewise, traveling to the moon has been though about in that time, too, with the first sci-fi novels being written, and of course traveling beyond the confines of our planets is a topic. They would be amazed that it's possible and that we did it, but they wouldn't deem it impossible or completely outlandish.

      Scroll back another 200 years to 1600 and it becomes impossible. Not only our technology, but our social advances. To a person from the 1600s, the idea of social equality of races, genders and especially religions is an alien concept they would reject on principle, as impossible. Likewise, travelling beyond the speed of wind is a concept that is absolutely alien, we are talking about a world where the fastest form of locomotion is riding on horseback, and crossing oceans is still a huge endeavor, with most of the planet still being unknown to "civilized" countries, and the idea of simply occupying and owning places you "discover", including the people on it, is considered the norm.

      TNG is what we are to the guy from the 1600s. TOS is what we are to the one from the 1800s.

      This is the difference.

      So yes, TNG gets away with space magic, because they should actually have concepts that we don't even remotely grasp. Actually, they are way, way too "mundane" in many areas.

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  4. Highest in history... Trust me. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Funny

    CBS refused to offer numbers, but did boast that Discovery's debut lead to the highest number of sign-ups in the history of its All Access service.

    Said CBS spokesman Donald Trump.

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  5. The Orville by Jezral · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They should fire the writers of Discovery and hire the Orville team instead. Marry the solid writing of a real Star Trek show (The Orville) with the high production values of the knock-off (Discovery).

    The Orville is a true to form Star Trek show disguised as generic sci-fi.
    Discovery is generic sci-fi disguised as Star Trek.

  6. Positive here by cerberusss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm seeing some negativity here, but I very much enjoy this season. It's Star Trek, but for once its crew is not infallible and almost-perfect. Nope, these people are damaged goods. Captain Lorca has been trapped, tortured, had to abandon his crew, etc. So he is VERY focused, to the point where you not only think "wow, this is a tough S.O.B." and then continues into the territory of eye-for-an-eye.

    I don't much like their Spore Drive, but the dark and serious atmosphere makes it worth it, IMHO.

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    1. Re:Positive here by AntiSol · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's precisely why this is not Star Trek. The crew are supposed to be "infallible and near-perfect". The whole point is to show an optimistic future where humanity has overcome its petty differences and started actually working for the betterment of all. This is the core principle of Star Trek. Everything else is a side-effect of that. If you want to watch people squabble over inconsequential things and torture animals for their benefit, go watch something that isn't Star Trek. There's tons of it, and lots of it is great if that's what you're looking for.

      This isn't Star Trek, this is "Generic action sci-fi show #48911" with a Star Trek sticker slapped on it so that people will buy it.

  7. Spore Drive is a one season story at most by iTrawl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Given that the show is supposedly set about a decade before TOS, and that nobody in the whole Star Trek universe heard of Spore Drive until Discovery, should mean that Spore Drive technology will fail so spectacularly that nobody ever mentions it again and they just settle for "slow" Warp Drive for the rest of the future. Even the Borg have only Trans-Warp conduits to help them move faster.

    If they still have Spore Drive in season 2 they're mad - otherwise they'll have to declare it an "alternate universe" story, and then watch how everybody suddenly understands why the Klingons look like a totally different species.

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  8. They have retconned massive amounts of technology. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Holodeck Pre-TOS: It was supposed to be new in the Era of TNG.
    Holographic Displays everywhere: Was there *EVER* any in Trek?
    Transporters like they're safe!: McCoy was still concerned about transporters in TOS, and the tech was still known for mishaps in the TOS era. Yet they use them in EVERY POSSIBLE SITUATION they could be dangerous. I mean beaming them off a small fast moving fightcraft being fired on by the Klingons? That sure seems like the sort of situation a 'new' technology would have mishaps with.

    The biggest issues so far were believing Michael had ever passed for Vulcan, that the commander woman who was sleeping with the Captain and died on Discovery was that stupid, and that Tilly/the Admiral were that touchy feely emotional as a recruit on a Black Ops ship, and an Admiral in the Federation. The Admiral sleeping with the Captain just felt like something out of The Orville, which makes wonder if the fraternizing in that show was a jab at ST:D (even more apt giving all the sleeping around.)

    Here is hoping at 2 seasons, it will also be notable for being the shortest Trek series ever and not get a third...

    Having said that, the Captain, the gay scientist, the doctor, and a few other characters have all been top notch, if not what you'd expect of Trek figures. Honestly if they had spun it as an original show and omitted the Trek aspects I might like it, but too much of it feels JJ Abrams inspired, rather than post-Enterprise or strictly pre-TOS. Personally I think it would have been a lot better if they had done it in retro motif with TOS style sets and uniforms and kept the budgets small. Oh and make an intro that seemed like a Trek instead of an evolution of the crappy intro in Enterprise. Trek is about *SPACE*, show a starscape, show a ship. Don't show a crappy montage on a sepia colored screen.