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The Geometry of Islamic Art Becomes a Treasure of a Game (arstechnica.com)

Sam Machkovech from Ars Technica reviews the game Engare, describing it as a "clever, deceptively simple, and beautiful rumination on geometry and Islamic art-making traditions." The game consists of relatively simple puzzles and a freeform art toy that unlocks its puzzles' tools to allow you to make whatever patterns you please. From the report: The game, made almost entirely by 23-year-old Iranian developer Mahdi Bahrami, starts with a 2D scene of a circle repeatedly traveling along a line. Above this, an instructional card shows a curved-diagonal line. Drop a dot on the moving circle, the game says, and it will generate a bold line, like ink on a page. As the ball (and thus, your dot) rolls, the inked line unfurls; if you put the dot on a different part of the circle, then your inked line may have more curve or angle to it, based on the total motion of the moving, rotating circle. Your object is to recreate this exact curved-diagonal line. If your first ink-drop doesn't do the trick, try again. Each puzzle presents an increasingly complex array of moving and rotating shapes, lines, and dots. You have to watch the repeating patterns and rotations in a particular puzzle to understand where to drop an ink dot and draw the demanded line. At first, you'll have to recreate simple turns, curves, and zig-zags. By the end, you'll be making insane curlicues and rug-like super-patterns.

But even this jaded math wiz-kid couldn't help but drop his jaw, loose his tongue, and bulge his eyes at the first time Engare cracked open its math-rich heart. One early puzzle (shown above) ended with its seemingly simple pattern repeating over and over and over and over. Unlike other puzzles, this pattern kept drawing itself, even after I'd fulfilled a simple line-and-turn pattern. And with each pass of the drawing pattern, driven by a spinning, central circle, Engare drew and filled a new, bright color. This is what the game's creator is trying to shout, I thought. This is his unique, cultural perspective. This looks like the Persian rugs he saw his grandmother weave as a child.

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  1. How much is "ISlamic" by Chrisq · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How much is "Islamic" and how much is stolen from cultures that they have destroyed? For example "islamic" arches can clearly be seen in pre-islamic Persia. You will fins that most things that Muslims claim to have invented turn out to be "we destroyed this library but copied this bit"

    1. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      So Microsoft didn't even invent "embrace, extend, extinguish"?

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    2. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by Freischutz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How much is "Islamic" and how much is stolen from cultures that they have destroyed? For example "islamic" arches can clearly be seen in pre-islamic Persia. You will fins that most things that Muslims claim to have invented turn out to be "we destroyed this library but copied this bit"

      For one thing, according to some interpretations of the Koran Islam does not allow it's followers to create images of living creatures which has led to a lot of artistic energy and creativity being poured into geometric artwork and the mathematics of geometry. Secondly, the pre-Islamic cultures you cite (Persia in this case) are the same cultures that contributed to the development of geometric art after they converted to Islam. There was no destruction of cultures to speak of, just a change of religion and a change of management much like there was when the Roman empire disintegrated in Europe. Germanic kings took over from Roman administrators and people largely welcomed them despite their occasional brutality because as a general rule they did a better job of defending the population than corrupt and incompetent Roman governors had and the new rulers for the most part just took over the existing Roman institutions and ran them more efficiently and with much less corruption rather than laying waste to everything in their path. The same applies to the Islamic conquest of the orient in many cases. As for stealing from cultures you destroyed, odds are you are either an American, and Americans destroyed thousands of cultures in order to steal a continent from hem or a Brit who did the same to build an empire so please try not to throw stones, you live in a glass house.

    3. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by JohnnyBGod · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So... like every other civilisation, then?

    4. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Informative

      There was no destruction of cultures to speak of, just a change of religion

      I don't know about the Middle East but in Europe, the "just a change of religion" was definitely a destruction of (pre-Christian) cultures. I'd be very surprised if Islam, spreading at the same time, were any different.

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    5. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by gtall · · Score: 4, Informative

      Errmm...you are referring to Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, northern sub-Saharan Africa, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, India (still has a lot even after the division),...I'm sure there are more. And get this, they don't get squat from the Muslim oil producers, it seems the Muslim oil producers are very good at keeping their money close to home. Now they do fund a bit of proselytizing, but then so do the Christians. In the U.S., that seems to have spawned a Christianity devoid of Christ and the principles he espoused. Apparently, it is only for white people.

    6. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 2

      How much is "Islamic" and how much is stolen from cultures that they have destroyed? For example "islamic" arches can clearly be seen in pre-islamic Persia. You will fins that most things that Muslims claim to have invented turn out to be "we destroyed this library but copied this bit"

      We can say the same with almost every other culture. What's the point here?

    7. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      I love how whataboutism is used to gloss over the very real cultural destruction that the holy warriors of Islam visited on the nations and peoples they conquered.

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    8. Re: How much is "ISlamic" by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 2

      "Islam" isn't doing squat. MUSLIMS do many different things, and yes, some (the fundamentalists, mostly of the Salafi and Wahhabi branches of Sunni Islam) are assholes and do incredibly harmful and destructive things, and use Islam as justification. Just like fundamentalist Buddhist assholes in Myanmar and Sri Lanka do incredibly harmful and destructive things and use Buddhism as justification, or like fundamentalist Hindus in India do incredibly harmful and destructive things and use Hinduism as justification, or like fundamentalist Christians do incredibly harmful and destructive things and use Christianity as justification. The problem is not any of these religions. It is the harmful and destructive things that people do in the name of fundamentalism of any kind.

    9. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by Freischutz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why? The topic is about Islam. The past of Islam and how it has influenced the art and culture is the topic. Why can no one mention the reality of what "change in religion" means in that time without feeling your shame and condescension?

      By your standard everyone lives in a glass house because the past is horrible compared to today. Does that mean no one can talk of any culture or any past transgression unless it's their own culture? What happens if those in that culture refuse to critizise their past, I guess that means it was all rainbows and unicorn farts, and "just a change in religion" means nothing more than a friendly door knock like this.

      If I remember correctly, the topic of this thread was Islamic geometric art. It was you and your xenophobic alt-right buddies who turned it into some mystic ceremony where you all gather in a circle and hate Islam. Dragging the Islamic conquest into a discussion about Islamic art is about as relevant as dragging the massacre at Wounded Knee war into a discussion about the art of Jackson Pollock. All I did was burn you alt-right drones for going on a pretty stupid xenophobic tangent from a harmless discussion on geometric art in computer games. Just because some random mundane thing is in your mind 'Islamic', like geometric art or falafel recipes that doesn't mean you have some sort of god given right to bother the rest of us by dragging your asinine xenophobic political agenda into it without getting a dissenting opinion.

    10. Re:How much is "ISlamic" by penandpaper · · Score: 2

      You sure are quick to name calling. Without shaming and condescension you really don't have much an argument. Let's recap to make sure we both remember correctly.

      1) Article about Geometry in Islamic art turned game.
      2) post lamenting if it is Islamic if it was stolen during conquest.
      3) your whataboutism.
      4) my contention of your whataboutism and your shaming and your condescension.
      5) you continue shame and condescension.

      You put Islam on a pedestal beyond reproach and claim others are the bigots for pointing out history. When it is you who use shame, condescension and hate to shut others out. Did it ever occur to you that "how" Islamic art came to be could matter in a conversation about Islamic art? Do you think the early influences (whether by conquest or not) is relevant? If not then art history should never be studied again. Do those early cultures get any credit to influencing Islamic art? Or are you going to white wash history so you don't have to question a religion that is beyond criticism? After-all, unless you are islamic then you cannot criticize islam according to your ridiculous glass house standard.

      Here is a thought, so what if the art was from conquest? How is that different than any other culture?... See, no whataboutism, it derrides the point of OP without shame or condescension, it treats islam as equals to other cultures, and it actually allows for those early influences to be relevant to a conversation about art (you know, art history). Others have responded to OP this way and they are not getting the same ridicule as you.

      You suck at conversation. You limit discussion. You contribute more to hatred and bigotry than anything OP said or implied. You are a hate-filled bigot. Get over yourself.

  2. Re:Just say no to Engare by bistromath007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's just geometric designs, guy. Look at the video, there's nothing about Islam itself here. It is simply inspired by a particular cultural influence.

  3. I thought Slashdot was for nerds and geeks by andrewbaldwin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An interesting geometrical application -yet what do the first 9 comments focus on? the word "Islamic". As I understand it (and I'm not a Muslim) creation of images is frowned upon (from the Jewish old testament commandment about graven images) so a lot of Islamic art is based on calligraphy and patterns (incl. some geometrically interesting tessellations).

    Slashdot used to be a good site for technically minded people - over the past year or two it's degenerated into yet another cesspool of bigotry and hatred - whether it be based on religion, women, gun control, Brexit or US politics.

    Save your bile for Facebook, Twitter and other similar sites and let Slashdot return to its roots in its anniversary year

    1. Re:I thought Slashdot was for nerds and geeks by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Funny
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    2. Re: I thought Slashdot was for nerds and geeks by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Islamic art is named because if Muslims draw a person they will be killed. Thus it's all geometric shapes and such.

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    3. Re: I thought Slashdot was for nerds and geeks by gtall · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ever check what the Christian Right has in store for America? It is not much different than what Islam would like to do to America.

      Christians and Muslims are fine, until they become overwhelming majorities. Then they turn into authoritarian dicks.

  4. Re:Just say no to Engare by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dude, that's like saying we should ban the color red because that's the color of commies and if we keep looking at red we'll at one day think that Communism is a fine idea.

    We're talking an art style here. Frankly, if you think an art style is going to influence your children, please take them to a museum, you might end up with better kids.

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  5. Awesome by inicom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I haven't seen such a fun pattern-based game since some of the early mandelbrot fractal generators. Cool concept and execution.

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  6. Spirograph by amalcolm · · Score: 2

    Does anyone remember the children's toy Spirograph? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....
    The game's introduction reminded me of that.

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    1. Re:Spirograph by inicom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      definitely, except more complex patterns that spirograph was capable of. The real-time flexibility of adjusting the patterns (and the apparent ability to morph into 3-d projections) are really neat.

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  7. Re:Just say no to Engare by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More to the point, it's basically a digital spirograph (remember those? :) ). Which, the question it raises to me is... why did it take so long before someone thought to make a digital spirograph?

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  8. Re:Arabic culture destroyed by religion by gtall · · Score: 2

    Modern day America?

  9. Re:Just say no to Engare by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Informative

    why did it take so long before someone thought to make a digital spirograph?

    What exactly took so long?

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  10. Cool geometry game by McGregorMortis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My son asked me to get Geometry Dash for him on his iPad. "Cool," I thought, "he wants a geometry game."

    Such a disappointment. The game has no geometry whatsoever, and I have to hear the same annoying pounding electronic music repeated endlessly whenever we drive anywhere.

    This is the game that Geometry Dash should have been.

  11. Re: Just say no to Engare by bistromath007 · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, it doesn't. I just played through the whole thing. The menu screen looks like Alhambra, the music has lots of Mideast influence, and the instructions are in Arabic as well as English, but you wouldn't know that if the only context you had was the game itself, because it explains nothing about Islamic culture. The inspiration is there, but the indoctrination is not.

  12. Re:Just say no to Engare by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 2

    The game looks about as Islamic as Tetris looks Soviet.

  13. Re:oil by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    Once oil was discovered, the British, divided up areas of the middle east along what they wanted, not ancient trial boundaries.

    They were a darn site better at drawing lines than you are at placing commas.

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