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First Extrasolar Object Observed Racing Through Our Solar System (space.com)

Enigma2175 writes: For the first time, scientists have observed an object they believe came from outside our solar system. The object is in a hyperbolic orbit that will send it back into interstellar space. From Space.com: "The object, known as A/2017 U1, was detected last week by researchers using the Pan-STARRS 1 telescope in Hawaii. 'It's long been theorized that such objects exist -- asteroids or comets moving around between the stars and occasionally passing through our solar system -- but this is the first such detection,' Chodas added. 'So far, everything indicates this is likely an interstellar object, but more data would help to confirm it.' It's unclear what exactly this thing is. When A/2017 U1 was first spotted, it was thought to be a comet (and was therefore given the moniker C/2017 U1). But further observations have revealed no evidence of a coma -- the fuzzy cloud of gas and dust surrounding a comet's core -- so the object's name was amended to its current asteroidal designation."

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  1. Hollowed manned asteroid by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    The first on many... :-)

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    1. Re:Hollowed manned asteroid by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just in time for Holloween?

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  2. Rendezvous with Rama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Arthur C. Clarke was right again!

    1. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Funny

      Its a pretty slow space craft. I doubt it came from Vega.

      Slow is relative. It could be populated by a race of space sloths.

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    2. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      It seems to have only a few km/s of residual velocity so its going to be hard to pin down its origin.

  3. Que Randezvous with Rama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The object definitely deserves a more prosaic name. Like Rama... :-)

    1. Re:Que Randezvous with Rama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Incorrect. For 'queue' or 'cue', either can be correct and only the speaker can say for sure which they wanted as grammatically both make sense. If he's got a list of things to do, saying "queue" is correct if he means 'add the rendezvous to the list of things needed to be done'. Now if he meant it's time to start the rendezvous, then yes, cue would be correct.

      When dealing with ambiguity, it's usually best to give them the benefit of the doubt than assuming they meant what you think they meant.

    2. Re:Que Randezvous with Rama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Rendezvous with Rama" was a great book.

    3. Re:Que Randezvous with Rama by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      He meant to write "queue," which isn't even the right word for the meaning he was trying to express. It should be "Cue."

      Both are correct. Queue would mean it's the next item to discuss on a list; Cue meaning it's lined up to be discussed next. Either word can be used in that context.

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  4. Re:Greeting from the Outer Space at Halloween! by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

    How appropriate!

    Well, I sure hope that the UN Security Council is working feverishly on creating a stockpile of young virgins and candy . . .

    . . . just in case the aliens stop by the Earth, ring our doorbell, and demand a "trick or treat" . . .

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  5. How to kickstart space exploration by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just wait for the course correction

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    1. Re:How to kickstart space exploration by Greystripe · · Score: 2

      What you are describing is called observing, exploration requires people to actually go there.

    2. Re:How to kickstart space exploration by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's an interesting idea. If you could covertly adjust the course of an asteroid as passed by Earth so that nobody knew why it changed, it would cause a huge reaction.

      Any billionaires out there feel like trolling the entire human race?

    3. Re:How to kickstart space exploration by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2

      You seem to think "trolling the entire human race" involves making money. You may want to look up the definition of "trolling" sometime.

  6. (Arnold J. Rimmer voice) by sheramil · · Score: 4, Funny

    "ALIENS!"

    1. Re:(Arnold J. Rimmer voice) by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      It’s a garbage pod!

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    2. Re:(Arnold J. Rimmer voice) by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      Actually, I was thinking more Giorgio Tsoukalos.

  7. Re:Greeting from the Outer Space at Halloween! by GrumpySteen · · Score: 4, Funny

    That'll also be useful if Harvey Weinestein stops by

  8. Already on the way out. by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's already heading out of the solar system, so no need to worry about any malicious intent. TFA says that it passed perihelion around Sep. 9. It was closest to the Earth on Oct 14, at about 15 million miles (24 million km, sorry don't have it in LOC). It's heading toward the constellation Pegasus at over 97000 mph. Maybe we'll send them a warning in a few years?

    It's a bit unsettling that we didn't notice this until it had passed the earth at a relatively close distance, and passed through the plane of the ecliptic twice. I know the chances of an impact are very low, but the late detection indicates that we may be missing an unknown number of events like this, and may not be correct about estimates of the chances of being hit by one.

    1. Re:Already on the way out. by Baron_Yam · · Score: 3, Interesting

      >We know the chances of being hit by an object by looking at how many objects hit planets.

      Also, to some degree, by common sense. Most of the dust spinning around our star that is going to collide with something has had five billion years to do so, and the clumps of matter formed in the process do a fairly good job of sweeping up the leftovers around the edges before they can get as close to the Sun as we are here on Earth.

      I am not an astronomer, but I would anticipate that (given our star formed later than most) most of our neighbouring systems are in a similar state or even more orderly, so they wouldn't have much left in the way of significant rocks to lose to us in any gravitational tug-of-war.

      And after that comes the fact that space is huge relative to the Solar System (making it unlikely any rogue rocks will come significantly within its gravity well), and the Solar System is huge relative to the Earth (making it unlikely any rogue rocks that actually venture into the Solar gravity well will also dip into Earth's). And the Earth itself is tiny so even something flying through our gravity well isn't particularly likely to impact our planet if it's travelling faster than Solar escape velocity (which it pretty much has to have been after falling into the Solar gravity well from outside it).

      I gotta tell you... I am not particularly worried about my lack of insurance coverage in the event of loss due to extra-Solar impactor.

    2. Re:Already on the way out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      parabolic orbits are VERY special. exactly as special as perfectly-circular ones. for a random object that hasn't fallen into an elliptical orbit around the sun, it's almost certainly hyperbolic.

      (e.g. if it was exactly parabolic, we'd be right to suspect aliens...)

    3. Re:Already on the way out. by SecurityGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's already heading out of the solar system, so no need to worry about any malicious intent.

      Somewhere, someone just deleted a voluminous bit of text, replaced it with "Mostly harmless.", and went on listening to Vogon poetry.

  9. Re:Maybe the aliens will abduct Hillary by MiniMike · · Score: 2

    If they would take every politician and drop them into the Sun, I would give them a lot of leeway on the rest of their invasion plans.

  10. It's about the same by Latent+Heat · · Score: 2

    The size of the Continental U.S. in relation to Texas in relation to UK in relation to New Jersey is 3000:260:90:7. Wales is about the same size as New Jersey.

    So yes, the size of Texas in relation to the U.S. (apart from Alaska) is about the size of Wales in relation to U.K..

  11. Re:Penoid by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 4, Informative

    Interesting that it came in perpendicular to the ecliptic plane inside Mercury's orbit slingshots around the sun and then makes a b-line for Earth making a close approach at 15 million miles.

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  12. It may contain some protomolecule. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    It may contain some protomolecule.

  13. Just over solar escape speed by GlobalEcho · · Score: 4, Informative

    Escape speed from 1 AU (Earth's orbital radius) is about 42 km/s. The speed of this object, stated as 156,400 km/h, is just over 43/km/h. Assuming the object is a bit more than 1 AU from the Sun right now, it will escape the solar system but not by a wide margin.

    1. Re:Just over solar escape speed by GlobalEcho · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In this case, the margin I have in mind is in kinetic energy terms. It won't end up infinitely far away because it is nowhere near galactic escape velocity.

  14. shame we can't send probes by doctorvo · · Score: 2

    This is the kind of event the space program ought to be better prepared for.

    Even if this particular object may be be unreachable with current technology, we should have robotic probes that can approach and even crash into/land on objects that appear unexpectedly.

  15. BUGS! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Bugs send another meteor our way !
    But this time we are ready !
    Planetary defenses are better than ever !
    Would you like to know more ?

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  16. First "ever" extrasolar object observed??? by Eloking · · Score: 2

    Wow, I had no idea that extrasolar object were so rare. I thought it was pretty common.

    Usually, by looking at the trajectory of every asteroid you can easily simulate it's origin. Of course, that trajectory can be pushed by an external force (impact with another object, friction from gaz etc.) but, as far as I know, it's pretty rare. I'm also guessing that the trajectory of pretty much every object observed (asteroid/comet) so far have been simulated. And since it seem we observed over 500k asteroid so far (quick google search), it mean that extrasolar object are indeed very, very rare.

    It's striking that our whole galaxy, with so many star and light in the night star, is, in reality, so empty.

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  17. Re:Seriously? Are you kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, objects have been observed with hyperbolic orbits before. But I believe all of them have been shown to be comets and all had significant evidence that they had received a gravity boost from one of the planets kicking their orbits up JUST enough to exit the solar system. This one is not a comet, is way out of the plane of the planets (unlikely it has received any gravity boosts) and at least initial observations suggest it has more than enough energy to leave the solar system. So it is highly likely that all other hyperbolic objects were from the Oort cloud while this is very likely an object from interstellar space.

  18. Re:Penoid by GunJah · · Score: 3, Funny

    If I were an Alien in charge of designing a close reconnaissance of Earth, I could not have planned a better trajectory than this.
    Perhaps A/2017 U1's mothership will rendezvous just outside the oort cloud.

  19. Re: Penoid by LifesABeach · · Score: 4, Funny

    A signal was received from the artifact. NASAâ(TM)s super computers decoded the message. The message reads, âoeSend more Chuck Berryâ

  20. Re:Is it slowing down? by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 2

    One Texas is 33.45 Wales.

    PS, we have 50 other states (but Texas is the second largest)

    We have 49 other states, (fifty states in total,) unless you are counting psychological states, such as 'of fury' or 'of confusion,' in which case the total is far, far higher.

    FTFY.

    Much depends on definition chosen. People sometimes assume one definition is the only, and therefore absolute. Texas is not the second largest, in many things. For example, the largest state measured by the size of its coastline, Texas isn't even in the top five. Or considering the length of the perimeter bordering other states or countries, it's probably not second there either. Texas is also probably not the even the second largest in total surface area, as it is extremely FLAT; I'm pretty sure California, with all its mountains, and Hawaii, (including all the wetlands between its various mountain peaks,) both have far, far more land area than pancake-like Texas.

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  21. Re:Penoid by mcswell · · Score: 2

    Not much of a beeline. 15 million miles is nearly as far away as Venus at its closest (24 million miles). If it had been much further away, we probably wouldn't have detected it--which is another way of saying that there could be lots (like dozens) of these that pass through our solar system, and we only see the ones that seem to be coming relatively close.