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Is the Optical Cable Dying? (cnet.com)

Geoffrey Morrison from CNET explains how the optical cable is "dying a very slow death": The official term for optical audio cable is "Toslink," short for Toshiba Link. Developed in the early '80s to connect their CD players to their receivers, it was a red laser optical version of the Sony/Phillips "Digital Interconnect Format" aka S/PDIF standard. You've seen standard S/PDIF connections a bunch too; they're often called "coax digital." Optical had certain benefits over copper cables, but they were also more fragile, and for a long time, more expensive. Though glass cables were available, for even more money, most optical cables were made from cheap plastic. This limited their range to in-room use, primarily. Through the '90s and 2000's, the optical cable was near-ubiquitous: The easiest way to get Dolby Digital and DTS from your cable/satellite box, TiVo, or DVD player to your receiver. Even in the early days of HDMI, right next to it would be the lowly optical cable, ready in case someone's receiver didn't accept HDMI. But now more and more gear are dropping optical. It's gone completely on the latest Roku and Apple TV 4K, for example. It's also disappeared from many smaller TVs, though it lingers on in larger ones, a potentially redundant backup to HDMI with ARC. The reason for this? Soundbars...

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  1. Re:I call BS by CronoCloud · · Score: 5, Informative

    Digital optical is utterly inferior to HDMI Audio. It only supports 2 channels uncompressed, anything other than that. 2.1, 5.1, 7.1 is compressed.

    From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Unlike HDMI, TOSLINK does not have the bandwidth to carry the lossless versions of Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, or more than two channels of PCM audio.

    HDMI supports uncompressed audio, 2.1, 5.1, 7.1 or even greater.

    .

  2. Re: the soundbar reason is bs.. by cheater512 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Erm the coax connector is digital, in fact the exact same digital data as optical.

    Coax noise affecting the digital signal? Not Gonna happen.

  3. It died long ago by blindseer · · Score: 1, Informative

    I've had probably a dozen devices with an optical output, laptops, CD players, DVD players, music streaming boxes, and I'm probably forgetting something. What was rare was anything with an optical audio input, or it seems that way to me. The only thing I can recall having an optical input was this fancy (for the time) SoundBlaster card I bought as part of a computer system from my brother.

    I've also had a lot of things with S/PDIF copper inputs and outputs but I don't recall ever having a situation where I actually used them. Most cases for using audio cables from a device to another is connecting an audio source directly to an amplifier. I've had hi-fi stereo systems in the past but the lack of anything with digital inputs meant all those things with digital outputs would be connected with the analog outputs to the pre-amp.

    I guess I would have used the optical cables if there were more products that had optical inputs. I suppose I didn't really look all that hard for them but then if all these devices had optical outputs then someone was using them, right? No one I knew used them, but then that's not something that comes up in conversation often.

    Now we have digital audio over HDMI, USB, Ethernet, DisplayPort, and more. These cables do more than carry audio too, such as video, power, and remote control signals. I liked the idea of optical audio because it gives a digital signal and keeps electrical isolation, but it never seemed to get off the ground for me.

    Optical audio only seems to come up for me when I have a poorly configured Linux audio driver that turns on an optical output, I notice a red dot on a wall, and it takes a minute to realize where it's coming from. I then think for a second on how it might be nice to use that digital audio for something, and then remember I don't have anything with an optical input, and forget about it again.

    Is optical audio dying? I have to ask, was it ever alive?

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  4. Re: the soundbar reason is bs.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Coax cables can cause ground loops, which wont do anything to the digital parts of your equipment. But analogue parts like amplifiers may be affected by it, mostly by causing a hum noise.

  5. Re:I call BS by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Digital optical is utterly inferior to HDMI Audio. It only supports 2 channels uncompressed, anything other than that. 2.1, 5.1, 7.1 is compressed.

    More so than you are letting on with that information. For many people the desire to carry Dolby TrueHD or some other stuff like that is not interesting. But even then the digital optical is inferior to any other interface. Put a scope on a typical TOSLINK input and you'll see nasty looking barely square waves. This wouldn't be significant if equipment didn't then use the edges of these to derive the clock signal causing it to jitter back and forth.

    The only benefit it provided over its cabled brethren was isolation but that can also be achieved with a simple and far better performing pulse transformer.

    The standard never got a foothold in professional audio.

  6. Re:disappearing audio connectors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    S/PDIF has a "copyright bit" that consumer audio devices (including cheap audio cards) heed. Once the bit is set, the devices will not create digital media from the stream or let them be read into a computer. A copy created from material with the bit reset will have the bit set: no further copies are possible.

    So we are already in MAFIAA crapola land here.