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Three Women Suing Microsoft for Bias Want To Add 8,630 Peers (bloomberg.com)
A reader shares a report: A lawsuit accusing Microsoft of discriminating against women in technical and engineering roles is poised to grow a lot bigger if it wins class-action status. With the technology sector awash in challenges to white male dominance, the three women spearheading the case against Microsoft told a Seattle federal judge they want to represent about 8,630 peers who have worked for the company since 2012. The women said their expert consultants have determined that discrimination at the Redmond, Washington-based company cost female employees more than 500 promotions and $100 million to $238 million in pay, according to Oct. 27 court filings. They also accused the software maker of maintaining "an abusive, toxic 'boy's club' atmosphere, where women are ignored, abused, or degraded." Microsoft said it strongly disagrees with the allegations, saying the filings "mischaracterize data and other information."
They will distort reality to entitle themselves to whatever the fuck they want, paint you misogynist, and then sue you in a case with worldwide visibility.
If you had never hired them in the first place, then you wouldn't owe them anything and you wouldn't have to deal with this shit.
Seriously... you want to be treated like an equal? Take your lumps like the rest of us and stop making a big fucking stink out of the fact that you are a woman.
There is a stigma in the tech sectors, Men do coding and Women do data entry. Women who are in coding, usually need to double down on their attitude, to show that they are one of the guys. This is unfair, and often has the women, either not being proactive enough, or being too much of a bully to get the promotion. A lot of the these problems isn't overt sexism, but a combination of many subtle differences that really add up.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Where I work I hear these jokes about black people all the time from black people. No problem there, right? But when a white girl, who is marries to a black guy and has 3 kids with him made a joke and she was called a racist (by one person. The other black people thought it was funny)
So you can make jokes about your own stereotype, but not another. Got it.
But when I say "These stupid foreigners are so lazy They should send them back to their own country" I am STILL a racist, even if I am the only foreigner and I am making a joke about myself." WTF?
And when I got a joke that I thought was too racy, I received it later from my female cow orker.
To me most of the times racist jokes are jokes in then first place. And I know as at another place a LOT of people made fun of where I am from. Then they asked if I knew a joke about where they where from and all I said was "Only two, the rest is true." and at that moment you will see who are joking and who are racist. Hint: If they laugh they aren't racist.
To me it is taking being PC way too far in many instances. It has become the "think of the children" thing when I read about it.
If it was that bad, why did you not file a lawsuit? Why did you not speak up. If it is really that bad and you left because of it, why did you not say anything? Being silent is just as bad as participating.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
I think this is gonna have unintended backlash consequences for women in the job force across ALL industries.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
That the problem exists and is pervasive, I have no doubts on that score. However, I don't think it's just against women, ethnic or age groups. In short, I think the problem is mainly about cronyism and the boys club. Even talented white males suffer from discrimination there, but that's deem ok because they are white and male. People joke about the pointy haired boss, but it's actually a sign of cronyism.
$238 million for 8630 employees over 5 years comes out to about $5,500/year/employee.
That's a lot less than I would have expected for an upper limit at this early of a stage in the proceedings, when numbers are typically very optimistic in order to leave headroom for surprises as the case evolves.
I'd imagine that means their reasonable expectation of what they'll be able to show is quite a bit less than that, and maybe quite a bit less than even the $100 million (about $2,300/year/employee).
At this point....would YOU hire a woman for most any job, knowing they are likely to be looking for any good reason to sue you and your company?
If there really was a good reason for an employee or ex-employee to sue me and my company, I'd be far more worried about that possibility.
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