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Apple Wins $120 Million From Samsung In Slide-To-Unlock Patent Battle (theverge.com)

Apple has finally claimed victory over Samsung to the count of $120 million. "The Supreme Court said today that it wouldn't hear an appeal of the patent infringement case, first decided in 2014, which has been bouncing through appeals courts in the years since," reports The Verge. From the report: The case revolved around Apple's famous slide-to-unlock patent and, among others, its less-famous quick links patent, which covered software that automatically turned information like a phone number into a tappable link. Samsung was found to have infringed both patents. The ruling was overturned almost two years later, and then reinstated once again less than a year after that. From there, Samsung appealed to the Supreme Court, which is where the case met its end today. Naturally, Samsung isn't pleased with the outcome. "Our argument was supported by many who believed that the Court should hear the case to reinstate fair standards that promote innovation and prevent abuse of the patent system," a Samsung representative said in a statement. The company also said the ruling would let Apple "unjustly profit" from an invalid patent.

72 comments

  1. wasn't there's to start with by arbiter1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple wasn't first to come up with slide to unlock, there was a Microsoft product that had it years before apple stole and it patented it as their own. Hence in some countries the patent is been voided.

    1. Re:wasn't there's to start with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Apple's slide-to-lock application was rejected many, many times until it was re-written so that the "innovation" claim was "continuously holding your finger down while sliding". Its a bad joke in a broken system.

    2. Re:wasn't there's to start with by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Yea, if you lift your finger off you have to start over. Serious innovation there.

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    3. Re:wasn't there's to start with by dreamchaser · · Score: 2

      It's just like 'you're holding it wrong' only it's 'you're sliding it wrong'.

    4. Re:wasn't there's to start with by Misagon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The oldest product that I have heard of was the Neonode phone, first exhibited in 2002. It had vertical slide-to-unlock, albeit with three different sliders (left, centre, right) that activated three different functions.

      The Neonode wasn't from Microsoft but it ran Windows CE underneath its own GUI.

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    5. Re:wasn't there's to start with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How can you be so wrong?

    6. Re:wasn't there's to start with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the first thing I said when I got my iPhone was "wow, this looks just like a Neonode." --said nobody ever.

    7. Re:wasn't there's to start with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, Apple's slide-to-unlock is an adaptation of a physical door bolt that been around for thousands of years.

      https://images.homedepot-stati...

      Apple just took the door bolt and adapted it "for the computer." If that is a valid patent, I know a lot of real life things that could be adapted for computer use (patents, cha-ching).

    8. Re: wasn't there's to start with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first thing I said was "WTF? No headphone jack? And how do I swap in a fresh battery when out on the road??"

    9. Re:wasn't there's to start with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Product confusion isn't the issue: I am am suprised that the neonode slide to unlock feature was not considered prior art.

    10. Re:wasn't there's to start with by dohzer · · Score: 1

      We need a Trump-inspired "Sad" voting option.

    11. Re:wasn't there's to start with by MitchDev · · Score: 1

      more proof the patent system is unfixably broken

    12. Re:wasn't there's to start with by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I visited an ancient Roman amphitheatre in Italy once, and although obviously the original wooden doors were long gone the reproduction ones claimed to be historically accurate and had slide to unlock.

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    13. Re: wasn't there's to start with by pruss · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and if you had a PalmOS device and set the unlock password to a single space, you also had slide to unlock, because to write a space you would slide right. It would be weird if one owed royalties to Apple for setting the password to a space.

    14. Re:wasn't there's to start with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prior art?
      http://www.twincitiesradio.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Commercial-Bathroom-Stall-Locks.jpg

  2. Well by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm with Apple with the slide-to-unlock idea. AFAIK I never saw that before.

    For the "quick link" patent, that seems insane to me. The patent should never have been awarded in the first place, it's something that's obvious to anyone who has learned HTML.

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    1. Re:Well by omnichad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's absurd because physical slides to unlock already exist - you know, like a deadbolt. X but on the Internet or X but on a touch screen are not that innovative. It's about as genius as putting skeuomorphic buttons in a UI.

    2. Re:Well by Khyber · · Score: 0

      "AFAIK I never saw that before."

      Playstation portable, as well as many porable music players (including fucking CD players) had a physical slide to unlock WELL BEFORE Apple ever had it.

      The Supreme Court is very obviously staffed with a bunch of technologically-incompetent idiots and we need to change the constitution so we can get rid of them and vote every last one of their dumb asses out now.

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    3. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm with Apple with the slide-to-unlock idea. AFAIK I never saw that before.

      It's far from original. The physical version has been around forever. Google "slide bolt" for plenty of examples. Adding "on a computer" doesn't justify a patent.

    4. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You forgot X with a LCD screen. So wow! Many innovative! Such X!

    5. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uh-huh.
      Fortunately for Apple, Apple's 'Slide to Unlock' patent doesn't patent physical slides. It doesn't try to, possibly since they've been around in every interlock ever since the dawn of time. However, they aren't relevant in patenting software ones. It just patents a method of presenting it in software, and only covers one specific implementation. Go read the claims: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8046721B2/en ...and then find something the same that predates the patent application. I'm not saying you can't, just that physical slides are irrelevant.

      so, to follow your formula: Slashdot is very obviously filled with a bunch of patent-illiterate idiots, and we need to use the moderating system to vote every last one of their dumb comments out of existence.

    6. Re:Well by saloomy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      What? Are you nuts? Computers work completely different from reality. If I use a pin code to unlock something, and that decrypts a volume, or allows a download, it works NOTHING like a physical lock which has gears and aligns pins to slip into and out of traps. You obviously know nothing about how computers work to say "if it works in reality, making it work on a computer is not patentable". So If I have a child and it learns to talk, and I make a computer talk, that talking solution is not patentable? What about being able to store and read a document? Does every file format that represents "real data" have its patents invalidated because "I could make a real piece of paper look like that document"? Thank goodness you aren't in charge of our patent system, your worse than the current clowns.

    7. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apple's patent isn't on the mechanism, but on the presentation. And slide-to-unlock's presentation is exactly the same as that of a physical lock.

    8. Re:Well by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

      I would think the real idiots are Samsung's lawyers if they lost 2 out of 3 cases so that it had to try to get to the Supreme Court in the first place.

      The real problem is the patent system that allows things like "slide to unlock", "rounded corners", and "1-click purchasing" to become patents in the first place. To get a patent it should not be obvious, not part of the natural world (using the widest definition of natural which includes mathematics), be non-trivial, be new, and have a working prototype. There could be some more refinement as to the qualifications but off the top of my head that would make a better system than the current one.

    9. Re:Well by Trogre · · Score: 2

      Except that by putting it "on a computer" makes it a software patent, and therefore NOT FUCKING VALID.

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    10. Re:Well by sl3xd · · Score: 1

      The Supreme Court is very obviously staffed with a bunch of technologically-incompetent idiots and we need to change the constitution so we can get rid of them and vote every last one of their dumb asses out now.

      Consider putting the blame where it belongs: Samsung put many of the best minds in the industry at presenting their case, and they failed to convince the original Jury, they failed to convince the US Circuit Court, and they failed to sway the SCOTUS. Samsung's team failed, and they failed spectacularly: The patents are now among the few whose validity is affirmed by the SCOTUS.

      If there was a failure, it's Samsung's, not the Court's.

      I'm sure the irony is lost on nobody that Apple dumped "Slide to unlock" a year ago with iOS10.

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    11. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I so wish software patents would ALL be invalidated. If the language supports it, then you didn't invent something.

    12. Re:Well by Khyber · · Score: 2

      " It just patents a method of presenting it in software, and only covers one specific implementation. Go read the claims: https://patents.google.com/pat... ...and then find something the same that predates the patent application"

      Okay, four pieces of software I used back in the Windows 9X days utilized a 'slide this cursor to unlock your computer' (for CTRL-ALT-DEL challenged/disabled people.)

      Well before Apple even thought of the iPhone.

      You must've been born after 2000.

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    13. Re:Well by Khyber · · Score: 1

      " they failed to convince the original Jury"

      I'm guessing you have no clue that they only want the dumbest people in the jury. Go sit down for voire dire some time.

      "they failed to convince the US Circuit Court"

      They're idiots too, ruling upon something almost 100% of them have no real-world first-hand RELEVANT experience in in the first place, thus they're out of their fucking jurisprudence.

      "and they failed to sway the SCOTUS"

      Same idiot SCOTUS that ruled on Citizen's United. Yea, that instills in me MUCH confidence in their overall intelligence.

      "Samsung's team failed, and they failed spectacularly"

      No, this country's educational system failed. Every last one of these fuckers needs to go back to school and get a real fucking job in IT so maybe they'd have a real clue instead of the one cherry-picked for them.

      "The patents are now among the few whose validity is affirmed by the SCOTUS."

      One of the awesome things we can do is endlessly shame the court for this. And that is exactly what needs to happen. Too bad you seem too eager to suck government dick instead of seeing the real problem, which is the government itself.

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    14. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And those 4 pieces of software were... ?

    15. Re:Well by omnichad · · Score: 1

      And doing the same thing with a touch screen is non-obvious? When we already implement other physical interface buttons as a touch screen element, like push buttons, radio buttons, etc.? The prior art is relevant because it determines the obviousness.

    16. Re:Well by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Click N Type was one I remembered testing out for a one-armed friend. That's where I first saw it, almost 20 years ago.

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  3. Total abuse of the system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Anything that is obvious and can be replicated by someone skilled in the art is not valid. The rules say this, but they are ignored the by morons who run the system and gain prestige/profit while hurting actual innovation. Maybe the Trumpenfuhrer will fix this too as part of draining the swamp.

  4. Time to give credit where credit is due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple invented many of the features in smartphones that we take for granted. Just think back to the piles of shit the carriers foisted upon us prior to the release of the first iPhone. Jesus. Thankfully those days are behind us. If if means we have to credit Apple and Steve Jobs with those features, so be it. Just because they are obvious in our enlightened post-iPhone days doesn't mean they were obvious (nor trivial) back in the pre-iPhone days.

    1. Re:Time to give credit where credit is due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apple invented many of the features in smartphones that we take for granted.

      Like Cut & Paste. Oh wait, the first iPhone lacked cut & paste which was present on Windows Mobile, PalmOS, and other phones that predate the iPhone.

      Ok. Well Apple surly invented having apps on your phone. Because the first iPhone had the App Store. Oh wait, the initial iPhone did not allow native apps to be installed on the phone, only browser-based apps that required the phone to be online were permitted. Yet feature phones from Samsung, LG, Kyocera, Nokia, RIM and others had carrier-oriented app stores for ring tones and in some cases applications. And of course there were several third party PalmOS markets for Treo phones.

      Apple's key innovation is branding of the industrial design. This is an old play by Apple, they did this with the both trademark and copyright litigation against other GUI vendors for copying their Macintosh GUI in the 80's. That Apple is using the patent system is hardly a different tack than the use of other legal loopholes to squelch competitors.

    2. Re:Time to give credit where credit is due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There is a difference between inventing and designing. A patent is supposed to be a bargain between an inventor and society: society will protect the inventor with exclusive rights for many years, and in return the inventor publishes inner workings of an innovation that advances the known state-of-art (but it has to be a true innovation whose workings are not obvious). Just producing something new that can easily be replicated is design, not invention. A true invention can't be replicated unless the inventor explains the inner workings (that eliminates about 99.9% of the junk that is patented today). The obscene system today exists because the examiners are paid a bonus for everything they grant but paid nothing extra for rejecting junk, so they are incentivized all wrong.

    3. Re: Time to give credit where credit is due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was and is US only problem with the backward Verizon and Sprint. GSM phones in Europe have always been bought pristine from the manufacturer without bloatware. Yes, you could also buy the phone from the carrier, again usually unlocked and with no extra bloatware.

  5. 120 million is peanuts to these companies by presidenteloco · · Score: 2

    Apple's cash reserve is $250 billion or so.

    And it probably cost both companies the same amount as the award to litigate this.

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    1. Re:120 million is peanuts to these companies by captaindomon · · Score: 1

      Agreed. The purpose of this lawsuit is to force the courts to make a decision on how these patent infringements will be decided. I gives them precedent and understanding for future patent decisions, for both companies.

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    2. Re:120 million is peanuts to these companies by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 2

      No precedents were harmed in the making of this lawsuit.

    3. Re:120 million is peanuts to these companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meanwhile the bill will most likely be paid with reverse invoicing for the iPhone X screen orders.

      Remember the fake news article how Samsung decided to show up at infinity loop with dump trucks of pennies to pay the bill?

  6. Re:first pst! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What language is this??

  7. It's not a bug, it's a feature by alexo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anything that is obvious and can be replicated by someone skilled in the art is not valid. The rules say this, but they are ignored the by morons who run the system and gain prestige/profit while hurting actual innovation.

    It is a system of the lawyers, by the lawyers, for the lawyers; and it is working as designed.

    1. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Theaetetus · · Score: 3, Informative

      Anything that is obvious and can be replicated by someone skilled in the art is not valid. The rules say this, but they are ignored the by morons who run the system and gain prestige/profit while hurting actual innovation.

      It is a system of the lawyers, by the lawyers, for the lawyers; and it is working as designed.

      That's not what the rule says, though. The AC grandparent is confusing two different things, and even has one of them backwards. Yes, anything that's obvious to one of ordinary skill in the art is invalid. But a patent is invalid if it can't be replicated by someone skilled in the art. Specifically, to be valid under 35 USC 112, a patent must contain a clear description that is "sufficient to enable one of ordinary skill in the art to make and use the claimed invention." In other words, the patented invention has to be able to be replicated to be valid.

      And that something can be replicated isn't proof that it's obvious. The actual rules are crafted to avoid hindsight, because everything looks obvious in hindsight. And given that the patent has to describe how to make and use the invention per the above, simply reading the patent opens you up to finding it obvious in hindsight. So instead, to show that the patent is obvious, the patent office has to show that each and every element in the claims can be found in one or more prior art references, and that it wouldn't require undue experimentation to combine them for one of skill in the art. Like, peanut butter exists, jelly exists, they're easy to combine on bread, so therefore peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are obvious.

      Now, I haven't looked into this patent or what's in the prior art, so I can't say whether it's obvious or not. It sure seems like a simple idea, but if it was obvious, why wasn't Samsung using it before Apple? And why did they copy it afterwards? It must have been commercially valuable for them to copy it, since they wouldn't have done so otherwise; and if it was commercially valuable and obvious, they would have done it earlier, since hey, free money. So maybe it wasn't obvious until Apple did it.

    2. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because everything looks obvious in hindsight.

      That's self-serving BS. . People are perfectly capable of using their judgement to decide whether something is obvious both before and after when some so-called "invention" occurs. This is absolutely an example of lawyers designing a parasitic system for their own profit at the expense of everybody else in society.

      why wasn't Samsung using it before Apple?

      Again, self-serving BS. A hundred different reasons including "was busy with other things". The automatic assumption that something isnt being used solely and only because nobody thought of it is breathtaking in it's chutzpah. Hard to take seriously somebody who is that immune to even basic logic.

    3. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Now, I haven't looked into this patent or what's in the prior art, so I can't say whether it's obvious or not. It sure seems like a simple idea, but if it was obvious, why wasn't Samsung using it before Apple? And why did they copy it afterwards? It must have been commercially valuable for them to copy it, since they wouldn't have done so otherwise; and if it was commercially valuable and obvious, they would have done it earlier, since hey, free money. So maybe it wasn't obvious until Apple did it.

      Aren't patents meant to be used to claim monopoly on the method used to implement something, not monopoly on implementing something? Slide to unlock can perhaps be patentable as the same can be achieved with other solutions. It is essentially "Allow the user to unlock the phone" + "with a slider", where the latter part could be considered non-obvious, although even that is debatable.

      The other feature is "Allow selecting a phone number" + "by touching it" + "and highlight it so that the user sees it is touchable". The first part is the goal, not the method, so it should not be patentable. The second part is the main method of interaction in a touchscreen phone, so it should be trivially obvious and thus should not be patentable. The last part is a user experience feature that trivially follows from trying to communicate to the user that he can do the thing, and is how most things are already communicated (e.g. hyperlinks).

      Did Samsung copy something more specific than these general details? If they did copy more specific behaviour, then I can understand where the problem is. If not, I don't think this is right.

    4. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Chozabu · · Score: 1

      We've had physical slide locks for... a very long time. (slide to unlock)

      and candles that burn down, or water containers that fill up to measure progress (progress bars)

      I don't think anything whose entire patent is "X that already exists, but on a computer" should be valid.

      This reeks of American gvmnt helping out local companies - we hear similar stories about China now and again on slashdot. This is no better.

    5. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      We've had physical slide locks for... a very long time. (slide to unlock)
      and candles that burn down, or water containers that fill up to measure progress (progress bars)
      I don't think anything whose entire patent is "X that already exists, but on a computer" should be valid.

      That's all true, but irrelevant. The patent isn't actually "physical slide lock, plus a progress bar, on a computer." If that's what it claimed, you'd be right, it would be clearly obvious. But it's not. That's just how people paraphrase the patent - and paraphrasing, by definition, is describing something in known, simpler terms. If I paraphrased a self-driving electric car as a "horseless carriage that runs on stored energy, and like a horse, can get itself home when its rider is asleep," that doesn't mean that, as of 1850, self-driving electric cars were obvious. I've explicitly ignored everything about them that's new or complicated in order to describe it in the simplest way possible.

      Instead, you have to look at the actual language of the patent claims. Here's claim 1:

      1. A method of unlocking a hand-held electronic device, the device including a touch-sensitive display, the method comprising:
      detecting a contact with the touch-sensitive display at a first predefined location corresponding to an unlock image;
      continuously moving the unlock image on the touch-sensitive display in accordance with movement of the contact while continuous contact with the touch screen is maintained, wherein the unlock image is a graphical, interactive user-interface object with which a user interacts in order to unlock the device; and
      unlocking the hand-held electronic device if the moving the unlock image on the touch-sensitive display results in movement of the unlock image from the first predefined location to a predefined unlock region on the touch-sensitive display.

      Those are the pieces you have to show exist in the prior art in order to prove that the patent was obvious. Not door latches and progress bars.

    6. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      That's how you implement a virtual version of a physical slide-lock. BFD. That's obvious-city in my book. I'd throw it out. Might as well patent explosions in video games because they are virtual. If a video game had a slide-lock door where the player slides it to get into a room, it would have the same legal problem if we follow this crap.

      If you pollute the patent catalog with frivolous shit, you waste time and money and just make lawyers and patent trolls rich.

    7. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

      It sure seems like a simple idea, but if it was obvious, why wasn't Samsung using it before Apple? And why did they copy it afterwards? It must have been commercially valuable for them to copy it, since they wouldn't have done so otherwise; and if it was commercially valuable and obvious, they would have done it earlier, since hey, free money. So maybe it wasn't obvious until Apple did it.

      It was obvious how to do it, but not why. Patents are only meant to cover the "how". The fact that no one else saw a commercial advantage in this form of user interface before Apple did it does not imply that there was anything non-obvious about the implementation. For that matter, there may not have been any commercial advantage to be had from implementing slide-to-unlock until Apple did it, at which point it became valuable simply because it was what people were used to from using Apple products. Apart from this network effect, slide-to-unlock is not inherently superior to other interfaces for unlocking devices. On the other hand, the proliferation of pointlessly different user interfaces has a definite cost to the users and to society as a whole.

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    8. Re:It's not a bug, it's a feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those are the pieces you have to show exist in the prior art in order to prove that the patent was obvious.

      No, that's what a badly broken patent system claims is necessary to prove the patent is obvious. To anybody with even a basic level of intelligence it's quite clear that definition is, due to it's own obviousness, just proving the patent is obvious to basically anyone skilled in the art. As usual lawyers feathering their own nest with their shenanigans.

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  8. replace your door slider locks! by kiviQr · · Score: 2

    now I have to replace all my door slider locks.

  9. Rhetoric is not trolling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lack of cut & paste is a specific example of a lack of innovation on a past Apple device. It's the 2007 equivalent of not having a headphone jack.

  10. US courts make America great again ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Simple. Apple = USA, Samsung = South Korea. Even though Apple uses every trick in the book (and probably beyond that) to avoid paying astronomic amounts of taxes in the USA (and elsewhere).

  11. way to much value to trivial patents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The whole patent process is stupid when things like slide to unlock get such a high validation. Easy to think of easy to duplicate the functionality of. Innovation value near zero, despite the practical use.

  12. FFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For the dumb fucks defending Apple and their glorious victory, please realise that this is just yet another win for the corpocracy.
    $120 million dollars for slide to unlock???
    $120 MILLION dollars? For one shitty shitty little miscellaneous "feature" that provides ZERO innovation?
    If you contain even a snifter of intelligence you'll realise that this outcome just cements the absolute power these big, shitty corporations have over us small time developers.
    Just try to develop an app that doesn't fall foul of the hundreds of thousands of bullshit software and design patents that these corporations pump out. It's absolutely impossible.
    Fucking depressing.

  13. Some win. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the 2 Billion that apple originally wanted for their bullshit "thermonuclear war" to "winning" 120 Million.
    Pocket change for Samsung.
    I hope the thief jobs is having a particularly bad day in hell when he hears this news.

    1. Re: Some win. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thermonuclear war was foughtbin Steve's pancreas. Steve lost.

  14. What about the rest of the world? by fred6666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apple won on that case against Samsung in one (albeit rich and populous) country out of almost 200. Does it mean Samsung is right in the others? Why isn't Apple suing everywhere?

    The real question is why is the USA patent system so broken that a case like this can be won by Apple.

    1. Re:What about the rest of the world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't just the patent system. The entire american law system is broken beyond repair.

  15. Patent law is stupid and evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, Apple took another company to court because it put a SLIDE TO UNLOCK feature on a phone.

    Intellectual property is a farce. Patents destroy innovation and consumers suffer the most by all the lost competition.

    1. Re: Patent law is stupid and evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More corruption in a corrupt world.
      It's all shit.

    2. Re:Patent law is stupid and evil by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      But... But... Without patent protection Apple would have no incentive to steal, I meant invent slide to unlock!

      They would just have used an unlock button... Okay, well that could get triggered easily, so maybe something that required a more definite action, like sliding but less obvious.

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  16. Broken patent system, broken legal system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a laughable excuse for a country...

  17. Patently Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can can something so ridiculous be real? Do they have separate patents for right-to-left sliding? Or top-to-bottom? Bottom-to-top? Maybe we can patent diagonal sliding - 4 separate patents! 30-degree sliding? Even Douglas Adams could not have thought of sillier people. Patents used to be about real things - like toasters, and light bulbs.

  18. Patent should have never been granted by Maritz · · Score: 1

    On the single most fucking obvious way possible to unlock with a touch screen. How the fuck else are you supposed to do it?

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    1. Re:Patent should have never been granted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could have done it they way other smart phones did it up until the iphone: with a physical button dedicated to that task.

  19. other important news by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

    And in other important news, the sun rose this morning.

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  20. AND look at Features as a Customer request! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it wasnt Samsung that innovated this SLIDE UNLOCK feature but every bit of design was a payed-to-order model from whomever was received to the purchase.

    Similarly, do customers of Apple pay for features, can they share the penalty when Apple is sued for violating a copyright or patent?

    If Chuck Norris enters BURGER KING and orders a Big Mac, does MCDONALDS sue Chuck Norris for counterfeiting?

    oh where is Mr. Vote-With-Your-Dollars (Richard Stallman) to answer these revolutionary communist questions?

  21. Regex 101 -- Bullsh&t by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    software that automatically turned information like a phone number into a tappable link.

    Apple re-invented regular expressions also? Patents are supposed to be "non-obvious" to practitioners in the field. A judge and/or patent reviewer somewhere is incompetent or bribed. Fire their ass!