WikiLeaks Starts Releasing Source Code For Alleged CIA Spying Tools (vice.com)

Semen in butt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 09:42 · Score: -1

I released my semen into BeauHD’s asshole.

Re:Semen in butt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 09:46 · Score: -1

I had my butt removed at a very young age precisely so that would never happen to me.

Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 09:47 · Score: -1

Curious how the summary doesn't include the part about the CIA having tools to impersonate Kaspersky Labs. Would that conflict with the narrative too much?

Re:Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:03 · Score: -1

They’re just hoping the chemtrails makes sure people don’t question things too much.
Re:Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:04 · Score: 2, Funny

Curious how the summary doesn't include the part about the CIA having tools to impersonate Kaspersky Labs. Would that conflict with the narrative too much?
I knew it!! The CIA is in cahoots with Kaspersjy who is in cahoots with the Russian government!
Get this, the Russian government has been infiltrated by a small group of Cardinals from the Catholic Church - who are really Muslims working for the Saudi Royal Family.
What the Saudi Royal Family doesn't know is that it has been infiltrated by the Massad of Israel. But the Massad of Israel is taking orders from a small Orthodox Jewish Sect in the Cayman Islands. And you guessed it, they are really Soto Buddhists. But those Soto Buddhists in Japan who control those Jews who control the Muslims who control the Saudis who control the Catholic Church Cardinals are being manipulated themselves!
By none other than Donald Trump. BUT - he's being manipulated by Paula White - his "spiritual advisor". And who is she? She is an Evangelical Gospell of MONEY preacher.
BUT she is being manipulated by the Koch brothers. And the Koch brothers are being bought out by none other than GEORGE SOROS! YES, him!
But little do we all know that Georgia Soros is being manipulated by the CIA.
So, yes. In a typical government cluster fuck, the CIA is manipulating themselves.
Hey, it's a job, right?
Re:Kaspersky by thesupraman · 2017-11-09 10:05 · Score: 0

Of course that will get ignored, didnt you know Wikileaks is just another arm of the KGB?
I thought *everyone* knew that! It is your duty as a citizen to know that!
I think you had better report yourself immediately for re-education.
Was the whole Kaspersky thing not completely transparent enough to make it clear that they are being punished for not playing 'the game'?
Re:Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:29 · Score: 0

Whatever Ivan, how's things in the old Agitprop offices, or have they moved you out to Olgino as well?
Re: Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:51 · Score: 0

It takes a special kind of dupe to actually trust the CIA, who are by definition professional liars and murderers.
It is true that many alleged conspiracies are bunk. But that does not mean that everything is above board; sometimes they really are out to get you.
Re: Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 11:46 · Score: -1

whereas the FSB is full of cuddly widdle lovebugs who just want to bask it teh glow of brotherly love under the kind tutelage of Vladimir Putin who has never sought to muddy the waters with conspiracy theories to cover his own trail of corpses
Re: Kaspersky by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 12:09 · Score: 0

God DAMNIT you neckbeards are so full of shit.
I'd waste my time trying to spell out the fact that the CIA are a thin blue line against the dictators and terrorists of the world; but no, you'd just stick your fingers in your stupid, clueless years, and then beg Putin for a reacharound.
Fucking neckbeards, and "techno-libertarian" Putin-loving tech bros disgust me.
Re:Kaspersky by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 12:15 · Score: 1

Olgino is the tip of a gigantic, lavishly-funded iceberg. Think of it, not as a troll farm, but an entire archipelago of vory, guns for hire, spooks and misfits being paid lavishly to undermine the West. This programme is extremely well funded -- about a billion $US a year at least. This is fascist Russia's great big moonshot to destroy the West before we choke them out by cutting off their oil money.
Re: Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:30 · Score: 0

Yeah, what would we do without the CIAâ(TM)s smashing successes in Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, or the countless other places where they have sparked civil wars and propped up dictators? What a wonderful service they provide!
Re: Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:35 · Score: 2, Interesting

No one said that. Do you understand how an argument works?
Someone criticizes the CIA
You start talking about the FSB
If someone asks you what time it is, do you tell them the weather?
Re: Kaspersky by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 14:07 · Score: 0

Better than the KGB, who have the blood of literally millions on their hands. Whose leader was once a murderous paedophile, who literally got off on randomly selecting underage girls for rape and murder.
The people who invaded Eastern European countries willy-nilly, and machine-gunned peaceful student protesters with 50cal machine gun fire...
I will never accept lectures on morality from Russians -- or anybody else for that matter -- on this subject.
Re: Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 14:35 · Score: 1

KGB is also evil.
Why do you people not understand that saying the CIA is bad does not mean the KGB is good?
They are both bad. Lying, cheating and murdering is what governments do.
Re: Kaspersky by fafalone · 2017-11-09 17:10 · Score: 2

Ah, the classic argument 'not a murdering pedo, therefore moral and good'. We surrender. You're right, who cares that the government is actively working to strip our civil liberties and instituting a police state. Who cares the CIA spies on citizens in bulk, and turns over that info to domestic law enforcement for non-terror, non-violent crimes. They're not all the way there, and they're not raping and murdering kids (though civilian police officers already get away with such behavior), or machine gunning protesters, therefore we should all just shut up and worship our benevolent protectors.
You can fuck right off, you have zero credibility to talk about morality either with that 'not the worst therefore good' crap.
Re: Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 23:08 · Score: 0

Yes, sure, CIA works for the universal happiness of mankind. Wake up man they are selfish fucks who don't care
Re: Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-10 03:59 · Score: 0

Sure dickbreath, because you totally missed that this article is about wikileaks (an fsb dupe) and the op was trying to go tangential on the cia
So, I actually brought the discussion BACK to the topic
Re: Kaspersky by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-11 06:10 · Score: 0

Name calling: the sign of someone who has lost the argument

Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 09:53 · Score: -1, Flamebait

Please.

Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by aristotle-dude · 2017-11-09 10:21 · Score: 1

Please.
You have to give out your name first citizen. How else are they going to find you?

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Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:28 · Score: 0

sorry bud, but he's not an American citizen, so you can go stick your 'treason' up your fucking arse.
Cheers.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:44 · Score: 0

He's human, or at least he plays one on television. He obviously has no intention of honoring the social contract.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by allcoolnameswheretak · 2017-11-09 11:14 · Score: 3, Insightful

You do have to wonder why Wikileaks and Assange are so eager to target everything U.S. - the intelligence agencies, political fuck-ups, armed forces fuck-ups...
Sure the U.S. isn't perfect and you will always find something to criticize, but there are much worse countries in the world, actively fighting against liberties, free press, human rights, etc. the most prominent and important being China and Russia. How come there are never any leaks from these autocratic countries?
By always putting the spotlight on the U.S. Wikileaks and Assange are playing right into the hands of these autocratic regimes, not just by exposing classified information, but also ideologically by repeatedly pointing out the U.S. as apparently being no better or even worse than the countries ruled by despots. Which in the grand scheme of things is simply false. And if you think so, you are deluded. Where would you rather live? The U.S. or Russia / China?
Considering all of this it's hard to shake the feeling that Wikileaks and Assange have degenerated into being agents for Russia. Maybe they have actually been infiltrated and controlled by Russia in one way or another.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 11:42 · Score: 0

Please limit the discussion to Wikileaks. Threatening to murder the president is not only off-topic, but it also will just attract unwanted attention from the government.
Besides, it's also overkill. He's constantly flirting with getting-caught and it's just a matter of time until he's impeached. Not all treasonous cunts need to be dealt with though escalation to violence.
Re: Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 11:50 · Score: 0

He was talking about assange,
Not the president, lul.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 12:06 · Score: 0

You do have to wonder why Wikileaks and Assange are so eager to target everything U.S. - the intelligence agencies, political fuck-ups, armed forces fuck-ups..
From what I've seen so far (got conter-examples?), they only target the U.S. government; I don't think they have done anything to target U.S. itself.
If anything, by reporting our government's fuckups, Wikileaks has taken a rather extreme pro-America attitude and is basically doing the job that our own media ought to be doing, if only we'd pay for reporters. Maybe Assange is an American at heart, or has strong pro-American sentiment.

Sure the U.S. isn't perfect and you will always find something to criticize, but there are much worse countries in the world, actively fighting against liberties, free press, human rights, etc. the most prominent and important being China and Russia. How come there are never any leaks from these autocratic countries?
Because Americans don't care about those countries. He's giving us what we want.

By always putting the spotlight on the U.S. Wikileaks and Assange are playing right into the hands of these autocratic regimes
.. and into the hands of Americans too! Don't forget us! I see you have a different take on what Assange's actual priorities are, and for all I know, you might even be right. But consider: suppose someone only cared about promoting American interests, and didn't really give a fuck how much Russian and Chinese citizens are suffering from their governments. Would not such a person just happen to be doing exactly the same things as Wikileaks?
I think foreigners don't get us Americans' attitude about our government. Anyone who is a friend of America's government is generally seen as an enemy of America. We are always in opposition to our rulers, and we resent them aqnd their constant overreaches, and we're always hoping for them to be embarrassed and on the defensive. We want our government to be OUR BITCH, because if your ruler isn't your bitch .. well, see the Declaration of Independence for what we think about that! You don't think Wikileaks is trying to be the friend of all Americans (and again: you might be right) but that's exactly what Wikileaks has been, so far.
Wikileaks is the enemy of America's enemy. Maybe he's not really our friend, but if you adopt the point of view of us American citizens, you'll see that he sure appears to be either a friend, or even one of us.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 12:10 · Score: 1

I'm a dual national, so I am willing and quite able to call this disgraceful, evil Quisling cunt the traitor that he is.
He's a fucking traitor, and he's going to burn in hell.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 12:19 · Score: 0

If that shithead had half a brain, he'd surrender to the Americans, rather than risk getting served polonium tea by the Russians.
But then Mr Rapey has always been a criminally-insane lunatic narciccissist with authority issues. God-willing, Russia will poison his rapey arse and he'll get to be the example to all over criminal narciccists after him, who thinks that defecting to the enemy is a good idea.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by guestapoo · 2017-11-09 12:49 · Score: 4, Informative

How come there are ***never*** any leaks from these autocratic countries?
Never??? You can go to Wikileak and use the function 'search'. In case of it takes you too much time, here is a story published on Slashdot:
Wikileaks Releases Documents It Claims Detail Russia Mass Surveillance Apparatus
Keep in mind that Wikileaks is a tool to publish anonymous documents, you can't ask Wikileaks to publish what they don't have.
By the way, when you are SO angry that Assange 'seems to support repressive regimes', and DEMAND Wikileaks 'to do somethings' with these governments, I don't know where you were at those topic:
YouTube Suspends Account of Popular Chinese Dissident
Apple Pulls Anti-Censorship Apps from China's App Store
Bonus, don't blame Wikileaks and Assange for his 'so-called-anti-USA':
Cisco Leak: 'Great Firewall' of China Was a Chance to Sell More Routers
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by turp182 · 2017-11-09 12:53 · Score: 3, Insightful

This is about spying. Snowden showed that the US is #1!!!
I'm sure Russia has a good spy program, as well as England, Israel, and China. Probably some European countries as well (maybe South Korea, but aimed at the North). Australia is in there as well, which is surprising to me.
And the US's spending on military is unmatched (but probably envied). We spend about as much as the next top 10 countries combined, those other countries represent well over 2 billion people (China and India are in there):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Same goes for spending on nuclear weapons:
http://www.icanw.org/the-facts...
Why is the US a primary target of things such as Wikileaks? Because everyone else in the world is a target of ours. And our own citizens are as well. Sad, as someone currently in power would say.

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Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:30 · Score: 0

Sounds like someone really likes the idea of Pence being President.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:40 · Score: -1

I am American and USA Is most evil nation in earth. All things stupid USA accuses great nations like Russia of we do but much much worser.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by geekymachoman · 2017-11-09 14:02 · Score: 2, Interesting

> You do have to wonder why Wikileaks and Assange are so eager to target everything U.S. - the intelligence agencies, political fuck-ups, armed forces fuck-ups...

Russia, or China are mostly quiet, doing stuff in their own countries for the most part ( that YOU might consider as anti whatever, but locals not so much ).
The US on the other hand is a loud mouth cowboy who pretends he's all just and moral while bombing the crap out of everything, rigging elections, installing puppet presidents, doing assassinations, drug trade, and then complaining when somebody does similar.

Nobody gives a shit what China is doing... to other Chinese.
You cannot be on the top, deciding who gets what, and not having somebody to criticize you. So far, only wikileaks does that. Nobody expects anything from MSM anymore.
Re: Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 15:01 · Score: 0

You may be a dual national, but you are obviously no theologian.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by whyyisthissohard · 2017-11-09 18:55 · Score: 1

autocratic
What does this word mean to you? You're using it as newspeak. It's objective definition, never mind several subjective ones that might be commonly used, in this context is "sovereign country".
You seem to adopt the kit worldview that nobody has the right to run their country any other way than the way the US does.
What civil liberties do you think we have when our population is meticulously brainwashed to only accept the official point of view? The Bank rules the media (and everything else really), the media rules the mob, and the mob rules social life.
In China and Russia they have censorship laws it is true, but they are just being up front about what the West lies about. Just because some one breaks one of those laws doesn't mean it's enforced. Just because it's the law that we be able to speak freely doesn't mean we aren't punished as badly or worse than the governments of China or Russia would punish us.
There are invisible lines in every culture that you are punished for crossing. They simply have theirs configured in a different way due to circumstance, not due to malicious intent toward their populations.
We have long, long ago abandoned the model of government the Founding Fathers set for us. Bribery and greed - the lack of regulation against the banks - has made this happen. Our Constitution has been raped and everyone has been bribed to stand by and watch it happen. God bless anyone tugging at the seams of this nightmare.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by DNS-and-BIND · 2017-11-09 19:55 · Score: 1

It is just utterly bizarre to hear this, "Yeah, well if you don't like it, go to Russia!" line of thought from Leftists. WTF? You spend 50 years telling us this was bullshit. "I only criticize you America not because it harms you, but I know how much better you could be" is the line I always got.
When did you become such Sinophobic/Russophobic bigoted jingoists? How many countries has China bombed? How can anyone say they would make a worse world leader than America? Americans are the least educated and knowledgeable of foreign affairs, languages, and disparate cultures, societies, and social norms among all Westernized countries and the least exposed universally.

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Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by DNS-and-BIND · 2017-11-09 20:00 · Score: 1

Isn't it utterly bizarre how Assarange was a good guy and a hero when he was exposing the crimes of the US government with Snowden and Manning leaks? And now that he's doing what he always has done, exposing the crimes of the US government, suddenly now he's changed into a dirty commie spy? WTF? How does this make any sense to anyone?

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Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by thegarbz · 2017-11-09 23:07 · Score: 1

How come there are never any leaks from these autocratic countries?
Because of observer bias. Specifically your bias. Your bias that you don't actually look on Wikileaks, your bias that you read US news that is all too eager to point out US issues.
Also there's population bias. If someone leaks to you hundreds of gigabytes of USA criticisms, do you say: "Well I'd like to share it, but really I can only share 1GB because I only have 1GB from Russia and 1GB from China, and god forbid my site starts looking biased* in the information I release"
*I'm being facetious. Not releasing the leaked information due to this reasons IS an example of bias.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by quenda · 2017-11-09 23:40 · Score: 1

I'm a dual national, so I am willing and quite able to call this disgraceful, ... traitor

Ah, so you are a dual national, and by the transitive property of citizenship, that makes Assange an American sworn to the flag?
Please renounce your Australian citizenship and help raise our average IQ.
Anyway, I think you will find that the USA was founded by traitors, by definition, as they waged war against their king. So it should not be the insult you imagine.
Re:Somebody shoot this treasonous cunt by CommanderRyalis · 2017-11-13 05:09 · Score: 1

Well said

Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:09 · Score: -1

Have no right to complain about malware, ever, because they do it to everyone else.

If you're from the US, STFU.

Re:Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:15 · Score: -1

why don't you shut the fuck up little twat?
Re: Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:15 · Score: 0

I notice that you didn't have the courage to say which country you're from. Plenty of countries are happy to go along with American spying and cooperate with it, especially based on Snowden's statements about the Fourteen Eyes.
Besides, individuals are not necessarily accountable for their government's actions. It's asinine to blame all the people for the actions of the leaders. Many Americans neither condone nor support the actions of the CIA, NSA, and other three letter agencies.
Grow up.
Re: Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:19 · Score: 0

Then why do they keep voting for them?
Re: Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:25 · Score: 0

This is the country that elected Donald Trump to lead them.
Re: Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:26 · Score: 0

Which country are you from?
The CIA and NSA are not elected positions. Americans also have limited control over this and have voted for officials who pledged to scale back the surveillance and some of the other abuses. Candidate Obama promised to close Guantanamo Bay, then failed to do so. Americans have very limited control in this matter, unfortunately.
Re: Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:26 · Score: 0

Most Winningest President Evar.
Re:Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 12:22 · Score: 0

Russian propaganda.
Yawn. Get some new lines please.
Re: Americans by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 12:24 · Score: 1

Shut up, moskal.
Actually, quite a few of us DO understand, that the CIA, the NSA and the FBI are the silent guardians who stand between a world of rules and order -- and a world run by Chekist-mafia scum like Vladimir Putin.
Western intelligence may not always get it right, but I trust them VASTLY more than the mafia-Chekist nightmare that is Russia and it's thralls/vassals.
Re: Americans by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 12:25 · Score: 1

With Russia's thumb on the scale.
Trump is not legitimate.
Re: Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:46 · Score: 0

Yeah, that is why they conducted a mass surveillance dragnet program for years, lied to Congress about it, and had to be exposed by Edward Snowden, one of the greatest Americans of all time.
Re: Americans by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 14:11 · Score: 0

NSA did nothing wrong.
Snowden is the worst traitor in history. I wish we'd go "Russia" on his arse, and give him the traitor's death he deserves.
Re: Americans by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 14:40 · Score: 0

They did nothing wrong, and that is why Clapper perjured himself to Congress?
How is the weather in Fort Meade today? Is the shill and disinfo business treating you well?
Re: Americans by fafalone · 2017-11-10 15:00 · Score: 1

Worst traitor huh...
What about someone who wraps their evil in the flag, purporting to fight for rights while working to destroy them. Deep rooted authoritarian fascism under the guise of 'I'm the good guy, and the government is standing up for freedom' with the hidden agenda of obliterating what remains of our civil liberties, to give American intelligence and law enforcement carte blanche to intrude as much as they desire in their own citizens lives, free from due process and accountability.

I'd say someone like that, even if you think Snowden was a traitor.. someone like that is an absolute monster in comparison, sadistic and ruthless in desire to exercise power without constraint, destroying the freedom they purport to defend. That comment and your previous ones reveal You are such a person. Snowden was a hero, it's people like you who betray this country by betraying the bill of rights, due process, and the very notion of liberty; not even suspicion being required to strip a citizen of their privacy and rights. Snowden should receive this nations highest honors as you face the charge of treason.

Hive impersonates Kapersky certs and netwrok traff by Train0987 · 2017-11-09 10:12 · Score: 1

CIA's Hive can also hide it's outbound network traffic from compromised devices to look like traffic going to Kapersky. That's also in the leak posted by Wikileaks.

First, do no harm by Sarten-X · 2017-11-09 10:16 · Score: 1, Insightful

Zero-days and malware are just a part of the operation.

Any attack also requires an infrastructure to send the phishing emails, host fake login pages, make bogus links look trustworthy, and mask the origin of attacks. Often, setting up that infrastructure is the most time-consuming and expensive part of an attack, so it's often reused for several attacks. That is one of the most reliable mechanisms for identifying the source of an attack, by identifying the infrastructure networks used, and associating groups of attacks together, then connecting specific attacks with specific political actions.

Now, thanks to WikiLeaks, any attacker can start to build their own infrastructure from source, that looks just like the CIA. This in turn opens the door to more successful untraceable attacks and false-flag operations. By raising the banner of "journalism", WikiLeaks has yet again contributed to more damaging attacks and escalating conflicts.

Once upon a time, the term "journalist" carried a social expectation of trying to present the truth without harm. Dumping unfiltered source code doesn't offer any new insight except to a few good researchers, but it does enable significant harm and neuters those same researchers' usual techniques.

I'm unimpressed.

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Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:35 · Score: 0

So, open source is bad now?
Re:First, do no harm by Antiocheian · 2017-11-09 10:42 · Score: 2

The Wikileaks source could have sold those secrets to the highest bidder. Would that make you feel more secure instead ?
Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:47 · Score: 0

Eh...
While technically correct, the best kind of correct, I think you're missing some of the point.
While masking yourself as a 2013 CIA hacking infrastructure is now a possibility for hackers and other nations, the identity of this infrastructure was known to few, if any, outside the CIA. That means that from a bystander's perspective It's malicious traffic of unknown origin both before and after the leak.
Now however, the few security researchers you mentioned will help develop better protections against said infrastructure fingerprints, which is (A) identifiable thanks to this leak and (B) probably not the CIA's infrastructure anymore.
On a personal note, I've never been a fan of "this can harm us, let's not know this" train of thought.
Re:First, do no harm by AmiMoJo · 2017-11-09 10:51 · Score: 5, Insightful

We have safely assume that Wikileaks aren't the only ones who have these tools. They have likely already been stolen by others, just like the NSA exploits before them.
Plus for most of us the CIA is just another adversary we want to defend against, no different than any other malicious actor out there.
I much prefer to know about these tools and vulnerabilities so I can defend against them. Patches will come quickly to quality software.

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Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 11:06 · Score: 0

I have to ask why has this guy not died of a allergy or some such thing.
Re:First, do no harm by Sarten-X · 2017-11-09 11:10 · Score: 3, Insightful

Alternatively, WikiLeaks could have consulted a few trusted security researchers to get any insight from the code, and released that insight with limited snippets of code. While that would likely aid attackers in making a similar infrastructure, they'd have to invent their own boilerplate, likely allowing the different reimplementations to be identifiable. The insight from the experts would also contribute more to coherent and realistic discussions on the actual capabilities of the tool, rather than encouraging more "the CIA is hacking everyone!" panic.
Even if the toolset had been sold to one "highest bidder", that would only be one other attackerto identify. The shared infrastructure would be a little confusing for researchers at first, but continued attacks would show distinct operation patterns as a signal rising above the noise. Yes, that does actually strike me as being more secure than opening the tools up to everyone at once, since it's now so much easier to hide any given attack in the higher amount of noise.

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Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 11:44 · Score: 0

Actually it would. Whats worse? A criminal with a gun or 100 children with 100 guns.
Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 12:13 · Score: -1

Wikileaks is part of the Russian intelligence services. They don't give a shit about "journalistic integrity". They are here to further the aims of the Russian government, aka Putin.
Re:First, do no harm by AHuxley · 2017-11-09 12:27 · Score: 1

The problem with trying to fix what the security services are doing is the security services have lost control of their tool sets over the years.
The US and UK have a set of tools. What was once CIA, NSA, GCHQ, Royal Ulster Constabulary Special Branch only is now floating around other nations and staff.
Hardware and software to rent, for a shared faith, domestic politics, to buy.
The US and UK shared methods with trusted experts in NATO. To impress new friends in NATO, EU bureaucracy? To get staff in the EU to trust and support the NSA, CIA, GCHQ over the decades?
Ex and former staff in NATO studied the tools and shared the with in their own nations. Other police and federal police groups within NATO get a copy from their own governments...
Soon once restricted US/UK software is floating around with ex staff, former staff, criminals, cults, faith groups, the media, lawyers, political parties in many nations.

Greek wiretapping case 2004–05 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–05
SISMI-Telecom scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

With real security experts in gov and the private sectors now aware of what is been hidden via fake US AV software, experts can secure their systems from spies, other mil, gov, ex and former staff.
Great security protects good governments and the productive innovation of the private sector from other governments, lazy competitors.
Who wants junk crypto to stay around for years been accessed by anyone with cash and gov/mil connections... or a shared faith?

Allow the private sector and gov's the information to fix networks, software, OS and firewalls.

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Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 12:36 · Score: 0

Given the quality and clear comprehension around their previous vuln leaks, i wouldn't be surprised if these all started off with <!DOCTYPE html>
Re:First, do no harm by rtb61 · 2017-11-09 13:08 · Score: 1

So you are saying, other people can imitate the US government security apparatus by pretending to be other people, pretending to be other people (not an error). Do you not see the ludicrousness of your proposition. You can pretend to look like the CIA pretending to look like Kaspersky in order to attack any Russian business for simply being Russian or just hacking Russian security software in order to hack Russian corporations using it.
The US is breaking computer crimes across the globe to chiefly blackmail others into working against their countries interests in favour of US corporations and fuck the citizens of those countries (the faster they die the better), to steal industrial secrets, to blame foreign corporations for US government hacks, to promote war and discord just because America and of course straight up individual enrichment, using the US government spy apparatus to gather insider trading data.
The US government, as run by the deep state and shadow government has become mind bogglingly corrupt and self destructive all driven through insatiable greed. All it's secrets need to be exposed to bring it down, the sooner the better. What a corrupt pieces of shit US politicians to anything wikileaks does, US government straight up mass murdering people across the globe to feed insatiable war industrial complex masquerading behind NATO(north American territorial occupation farce). You are fucking murdering millions, how many have wikileaks killed versus stopping some of the killing you are not, not all mind you, the USA just enjoys murdering people too much for that but at least saving some by exposing crimes of an extremely corrupt USA.

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Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:45 · Score: 1

Patches will come quickly to quality software.
That's a problem. Most software is not of good quality, especially the most commonly used.
Yes, even in the professional markets. ESPECIALLY in the professional markets, actually. I've used some right shitheaps in my time.
Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:47 · Score: 0

And if WL didn't post them, the "russia is responsible for everything" crowd would just state that the claim is a lie, that there's no proof. Which would be ironic, since they've yet to prove any of THEIR allegations against the rooskies.
Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 15:57 · Score: 0

Do you know what I'm unimpressed with? The lack of security that we have, often DUE to the government, but mostly due to the oligopoly of hardware providers who simply don't give a damn.
The industry is rife with rumors that a lot of the closed source code in the firmware of every system from AMD, Intel, and IBM have NSA backdoors. Given how they have been installing backdoors in routers headed to China nobody will be surprised when this is eventually leaked or otherwise proven.
Fuck the CIA, fuck the NSA, but most of all fuck tools like you who pretend to care about our security but obviously only care to weaken it.
Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 16:29 · Score: 0

fuck wikileaks
Re:First, do no harm by whyyisthissohard · 2017-11-09 19:03 · Score: 1

Yeah let's let the shadow government keep raping anyone they feel like. Great idea.
The solution to the problem isn't painless. We let this cancer get into the heart of our supposed democracy.
Re:First, do no harm by DNS-and-BIND · 2017-11-09 19:52 · Score: 1

Since when is Wikileaks a journalist? They haven't ever been caught faking anything, or bending the facts to fit a pre-existing political bias. How's that journalism?
Once upon a time, the term "journalist" carried a social expectation of trying to present the truth without harm.
LOL that time is long past. Journalists spread fake news all the time, whenever it satisfies their emotional needs and validates their pre-existing political biases. It's very menacing if journalists with the loudest claim to authoritative credibility are using social media constantly to entrench falsehoods in the publicâ(TM)s mind. Four viral claims made by journalists in the last week that are wholly false.

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Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-10 01:24 · Score: 0

Not a problem. Badly maintained low-quality sw will die faster now. That is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Re:First, do no harm by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-10 01:41 · Score: 0

Except real backdoors won't be patched. I have seen so many news where a bug in M$ Windows were not patched even after a couple of years of disclosure with PoC code in public domain.

start your debuggers by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:21 · Score: 0

So great now we have the source code. I can't wait to report bugs! Is there an issue tracker set up already?

Not THIS American - I stop it... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:28 · Score: 0

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* Via what u NATIVELY have in a FASTER kernelmode IP stack!

APK

P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/ (self checking code vs. infection of it built-in)

Re: Not THIS American - I stop it... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 11:53 · Score: 0

So what you are basically saying is, that you use Host Files to secure you from the CIA? Is that what you are saying? Your Host file engine is so great, that is stops the CIA dead in their tracks?
So you recommend using your Host File engine to protect people from the CIA? Please let me know if I read that right.

Not THIS American - I stop it... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:30 · Score: 0

See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-7 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1/

Ads/script/malware rob speed/security/privacy/bandwidth.

Hosts add speed (via hardcodes/adblocks), security (vs. bad sites/malware/poisoned dns), reliability (vs. dns down), & anonymity (vs. dns requestlogs/trackers).

Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus + less security bugs/complexity & faster vs. addons/routers/remote dns!

Avoids DNSChangers in routers/IP settings & dns redirect (99.999% of ISP DNS != patched vs. it) + DNS tracking & lighten DNS load & resolve faster from local RAM!

* Via what u NATIVELY have in a FASTER kernelmode IP stack!

APK

P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/ (self checking code vs. infection of it built-in)

The American Empire by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 10:47 · Score: 0

That is how delusional hegemonic nationalists think: anyone who dares to defy Imperial America and its edicts is a traitor, regardless of whether or not that person is a U.S. citizen. No one is allowed to dispute the majesty and glory of the empire.

But the empire will end, once economic reality catches up and all its creditors realize they are not getting paid back and they stop financing the U.S. Treasury.

Re:The American Empire by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 11:51 · Score: 0

lol, ok Ivan. I know that divide and conquer is your motto for the West these days, but the US works in concert with most non-kleptocracies that are run by thugs... at least until your boy Trump was 'helped' into office
don't worry Ivan, we have a nice creosote covered post ready to impale you on when we get a chance
Re:The American Empire by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 12:12 · Score: 1

Eat a dick, Ivan.
You "nationalists" have been rumbled. We will _get_ you, and smash your drunken, Chekist-infested shithole country down, the way we SHOULD have in 1991.
Re:The American Empire by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:41 · Score: 0

So I'm sure we'll see you on the front lines of WW3 then? Oh no, that's right, you'll be in your mom's basement behind your mighty keyboard, calling everyone an Ivan or Putinbot while the real world continues on, ignoring your mental illness.
Re:The American Empire by benjfowler · 2017-11-09 14:04 · Score: 1

Sign me up.
Re: The American Empire by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 14:42 · Score: 0

Do you really think everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian? Do you realize that delusional paranoia is a mental illness for which you should seek professional treatment?
Re: The American Empire by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 14:44 · Score: 0

He is a chicken hawk, like most warmongers. Anyone can talk a big game from their basement. It is super easy to send other people to fight and die in stupid wars while you are lounging in a recliner.
Re: The American Empire by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-10 02:39 · Score: 0

Do you really think everyone who disagrees with you is a Russian?
"It's the Russians" is the liberal "You are fake news"

Do no harm? by Gravis+Zero · 2017-11-09 11:01 · Score: 1

Umm... why are you expecting "journalists" to abide by the Hippocratic Oath? Their entire existence is based around exposing those with harmful behaviors. Given the CIAs track record, I'm not surprised they are considered harmful.

Also, exposing the zero-days will ensure that software is fixed and malware signatures will be added antivirus databases.

Now, thanks to WikiLeaks, any attacker can start to build their own infrastructure from source, that looks just like the CIA. This in turn opens the door to more successful untraceable attacks and false-flag operations. By raising the banner of "journalism", WikiLeaks has yet again contributed to more damaging attacks and escalating conflicts.

That sure sounds like they have created an incentive for government agencies to focus on defending systems rather than exploiting systems.

The lesson to be learned here is simple: never create something that you wouldn't want to fall into the hands of your worst enemy.

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Re:Hive impersonates Kapersky certs and netwrok tr by AHuxley · 2017-11-09 12:10 · Score: 1

The NSA and CIA, GCHQ, 5 eyes have to move data around the globe after collection.
What better way out of a network than a firewall set to trust an AV product?
Its just the AV updating...
If anyone looks, its all the work of other "nations". The interesting part is how dependant and fixated the West is on the talking points and the need to use trusted products to hide their collect it all data flow.

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My work's output stops malware & far more... a by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 12:43 · Score: 0

See the poster I replied to saying "Americans have no right to complain about malware, ever, because they do it to everyone else" - I don't & designed something that works w/ what you already have natively to blockout or cripple many forms of malware (& ads etc.)...

APK

P.S.=> I'm a U.S. Citizen who designed that type of defense for the entire world to use, free (& it really works better than ANY SINGLE OTHER "so-called 'solution'" out there for more speed, security, reliability & anonymity online, bar-none doing more for FAR less)... apk

No you don't, you just prove you are a retard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:46 · Score: 0

No you don't. You just prove you are a retard. Your hosts file offers the same level of protection as an AV product that matches viruses based off of file name. It must be hard being as dumb as you are.

Stop lying retard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 13:51 · Score: 0

Stop lying you fucking retard your file aggregator doesn't stop real threats. It stops threats like a kid sister not state actors and your claims of it's benefits are vastly exaggerated. I guess your software is much like you in that regards as all of your claims are exaggerated or outright lies. So please post some more bullshit on the superiority of your file aggregator where you don't even do the hard work of creating and vetting the lists that your program consumes.

/.'ers quoted disagree by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 14:15 · Score: 0

I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat

Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad

I like your host file system by Karmashock

(NEED MORE? Ask!)

* It's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

APK

P.S.=> China imitated me http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ ... apk

Quoted /.ers disagree (you did better?) by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 14:25 · Score: 0

I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell

his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant

his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg

(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon

I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo

APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat

Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad

I like your host file system by Karmashock

(NEED MORE? Ask!)

* It's hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!

APK

P.S.=> China imitated me http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ ... apk

The Real Hero Spies: Snowden, Binney, Drake, etc. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 14:55 · Score: 1

There are a handful of real heroes from the intelligence community.

Edward Snowden
Bill Binney
Thomas Drake
Robert David Steele
Ray McGovern

And all the rest who have stood up to protect us from Big Brother.

Say no to war by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 15:27 · Score: 0

This sounds like something a phony Russiaphobe would say to stir up the fake Russia narrative where there is none.

Here is the reality:

The US government is evil.
The Russian government is evil.
The US government is not the American people
The Russian government is not the Russian people.

It is possible and logical to believe all of this at once. Say no to war.

B-b-but Russia! by Rujiel · 2017-11-09 19:11 · Score: 1

Hasn't anyone told you that people are tired of the russia defense? Someone meeds to update your script.

Re:B-b-but Russia! by tehcyder · 2017-11-10 02:47 · Score: 1

Hasn't anyone told you that people are tired of the russia defense? Someone meeds to update your script.
I thought we had progressed to the "well it's not as bad as North Korea" defence?

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Thank you by Rujiel · 2017-11-09 19:17 · Score: 1

It's good to see that at least a few people here aren't paid shills. The spooks have been shitting on assange since the afghan war diaries dropped. You can tell they really hate wikileaks.

How do you target when people give it to you? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-09 20:09 · Score: 0

> You do have to wonder why Wikileaks and Assange are so eager to target everything U.S. - the intelligence agencies, political fuck-ups, armed forces fuck-ups...

They're not a hacking organization. They're not going out there to target hacks against people. They publish stuff that people give them which is also true. They have been giving a bit of Russian stuff recently, but they don't speak Russian, so they're not generally the first people contacted for leaks. Also there's the whole polonium thing that makes people with access to Russian secrets a little more wary of leaking them. Not that the USA won't use extraordinary rendition to send people to Gitmo, but somehow that's just not as visceral as a nice hot cup of polonium tea.

To Gitmo! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-11-10 14:45 · Score: 0

AssWage and his minions belong in Gitmo for the rest of their days. Traitors, spies, chumps.

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