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The Booming Japanese Rent-a-Friend Business (theatlantic.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report on The Atlantic which talks about a growing business in Japan wherein you can pay an actor to impersonate your relative, spouse, coworker, or any kind of acquaintance. The reporter has interviewed Ishii Yuichi, CEO of a Family Romance, a company that rents such actors. Yuichi believes that Family Romance, and other companies that provide a similar service can help people cope with unbearable absences or perceived deficiencies in their lives. In an increasingly isolated and entitled society, the chief executive officer predicts the exponential growth of his business and others like it, as a la carte human interaction becomes the new norm. An exchange between Yuichi and the reporter, from the story: Morin: When was your first success?
Yuichi: I played a father for a 12-year-old with a single mother. The girl was bullied because she didn't have a dad, so the mother rented me. I've acted as the girl's father ever since. I am the only real father that she knows.
Morin: And this is ongoing?
Yuichi: Yes, I've been seeing her for eight years. She just graduated high school.
Morin: Does she understand that you're not her real father?
Yuichi: No, the mother hasn't told her.
Morin: How do you think she would feel if she discovered the truth?
Yuichi: I think she would be shocked. If the client never reveals the truth, I must continue the role indefinitely. If the daughter gets married, I have to act as a father in that wedding, and then I have to be the grandfather. So, I always ask every client, "Are you prepared to sustain this lie?" It's the most significant problem our company has.

276 comments

  1. wow by supernova87a · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am always amazed, impressed, disgusted, disbelieving, aghast, saddened, at the level of the Japanese culture of repressing emotions, guilt, refusing to speak things plainly, and bottling things up.

    Leads to some great things, admittedly, but also sometimes very saddening!

    1. Re:wow by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 1

      I am not sure that this is a result of Japanese culture per se. I think it is quite symptomatic of modern materialistic and individualistic society that is prevalent throughout the western world. But it might actually be better to turn Japanese and keep a bit more of things bottled up. Many times I'd rather that than all the BS that is spewed via Twitter and Facebook all day and night.

    2. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find the other extreme, regularly encountered in California, to be disgusting, depressing, etc (wearing emotions on sleeves; making every decision based on emotional whim; manufactured outrage; unable to live with being offended).

    3. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think RENTING a father for 8 YEARS takes it to a new level.

    4. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not so far out there. Many abroad would have similar views of North American societal relations and lifestyle. It's all about perspective and what environment you grew up in.

    5. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am always amazed, impressed, disgusted, disbelieving, aghast, saddened, at the level of the Japanese culture of repressing emotions, guilt, refusing to speak things plainly, and bottling things up.

      Leads to some great things, admittedly, but also sometimes very saddening!

      I don't know why the parent post is (currently) moderated to flamebait. Seems like a typical SJW response, but IMO not permitting any comments that could be construed as negative does us all a disservice (including the Japanese, if their culture does indeed include this disfunction). OTOH, if it wasn't SJWs & was Japanese folks then wrt the "refusing to speak things plainly" it's pretty ironic.

      FWIW, I know absolutely zero about Japanese culture so if the parent is wrong then please elucidate.

      Morin: Does she understand that you're not her real father?
      Yuichi: No, the mother hasn't told her.

      My response here was "wow" too. I was agape for a good 30 seconds. I don't recall the last time I read something online that shocked me as much as this. The daughter has my sympathy - not for "lacking a real father" (which is fine), but for being lied to like this. I know it's meant from good intentions, but still.

      Actually, in the west don't we have a similar situation? It used to be the case that adoptees were not told that they were adopted, whereas the common approach now is to be more upfront. Meh, maybe we're only a couple of decades ahead of Japan on this social issue.

    6. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know supernova hasn't ?

      I've lived abroad for many years. And what supernova is saying isn't crazy.

      It does exist in many places as well, which is maybe what you're saying. We all (all places) have brothels, hostesses, etc. of varying degrees for various aspects to fill various voids in our lives.

    7. Re:wow by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      I don't think it's due to materialism and individualism, even though those terms have been very popular since decades to describe the cause of all wrongness in our society. These days I'd sooner blame things on narcissism and entitlement.

      --
      If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    8. Re: wow by sycodon · · Score: 2

      Regardless, I would be surprised if a genuine affection between the two has not developed and therefore, the relationship is real.

      The guy would to be a real jackass to call it off at anytime.

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      When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
    9. Re:wow by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      In my country we call this job an "escort."

    10. Re: wow by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think RENTING a father for 8 YEARS takes it to a new level.

      It's cheaper than the real thing.

      --
      I should use this sig to advertise my book ISBN-13 : 978-1501515132.
    11. Re:wow by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      He mentioned principles. You stated personality traits based on extremes of said principles.

      It's the same thing.

    12. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are the chances that a 20 years old Japanese girl will learn about his fake dad on Slashdot?

    13. Re: wow by Safety+Cap · · Score: 1

      If the mom stopped paying, time to go.

      Business is business and friendship doesn't put food on the table.

      --
      Yeah, right.
    14. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You can get a burger and fries anywhere.

      Ah, German food?

    15. Re: wow by gnick · · Score: 1

      ...the relationship is real.

      Allow me to pick a nit. I think it's accurate to say, "there's a real relationship." But the relationship that the girl thinks she has is fabricated.

      The guy would to be a real jackass to call it off at anytime.

      Calling off the relationship would be heartless but, as an adult, I think the girl deserves to know the truth. Continuing to lie to her seems dishonest. Lying to her in the first place I feel was a mistake on the mother's part.

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    16. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, it's so German that all the Germans I know (which is a lot, considering I'm in Germany) think of burgers and fries as American. So even if the dubious claims of German invention of the hamburger are true, they've lost ownership of it.

    17. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The notion that you have to be a part of a culture to judge its validity is moronic. But by all means.. go join SeaOrgand pledge 10,000 years of servitude to Scientology and THEN get back to us about how great a cult it is.

      Next up: NRA members
      protip: drones & kill on presidential authority = rightless idiots

    18. Re:wow by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      French fries are german?

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      #DeleteFacebook
    19. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair it is illegal to buy a father so you can't hold the lack of fiscal sense in that investment against them.

    20. Re:wow by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Well, let me assure you there's nothing crazy about cheese curds with gravy on french fries. It's perfectly normal.

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      #DeleteFacebook
    21. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those are traits of political extremists of any type. See snowflake Trump and his supporters (replace "wearing hearts on sleeve" with "telling it like it is," or alternatively, "being an asshole in order to provoke an emotional response and because thinking is hard.")

    22. Re:wow by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      wearing emotions on sleeves

      Is that an expression or did they actually start wearing coloured bracelets or something?

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    23. Re:wow by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      In my country we call escort "a piece of crap made by Ford".

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      #DeleteFacebook
    24. Re:wow by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I learned anything by watching anime and hentai is that there's no 20 years old Japanese girls. They're either all 14 or 40.

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      #DeleteFacebook
    25. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zero, because the correct pronoun is "her". Now, if that person identified as male, you should've said "son", not daughter.

    26. Re:wow by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      In my country we call escort "a piece of crap made by Ford".

      In other words, a Ford.

    27. Re:wow by David_Hart · · Score: 2

      French fries are german?

      There is some debate over whether they originated in France or in Belgium.

    28. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      read Russian encyclopedia dramatica http://lurkmore.to/index.php?title=%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:USA.png&filetimestamp=20100906152205 for lulz

    29. Re: wow by TheReaperD · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just like renting a hooker is much cheaper than dating a girl and you know you'll get some instead of "we need to talk about our relationship".

      --
      "Be particularly skeptical when presented with evidence confirming what you already believe." -
    30. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pommes frites

    31. Re:wow by barbariccow · · Score: 1

      Where do you come up with this? And how are you so up-and-up on the North Korean underground? With the design of Red Linux, your comment suggesting that rebels go through very great lengths to watch a really shitty "comedy" movie in aother language is... just..... dumblephorous. I had to make up a word to describe it. Suppose it'll show up as a "thing" in other countries soon.

    32. Re:wow by barbariccow · · Score: 1

      "French" refers to the style of cut in cookies. Oddly enough, most advertising thinks "fried potatoes" to sound unappealing and thus it's unfortunately used to describe other cuts such as wedge.

    33. Re:wow by barbariccow · · Score: 1

      cookies

      s/kies/king/

    34. Re:wow by barbariccow · · Score: 1

      Gravy goes well with french fries, almost as much so as another great topping for both french fries AND pizza: mashed potatoes.

    35. Re:wow by barbariccow · · Score: 1

      I don't recall the last time I read something online that shocked me as much as this

      Wow, you really avoid large swaths of the information superhighway don't you?

    36. Re:wow by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      That is a common English idiom. "Wearing your heart on your sleeve", "wearing your emotions on your sleeve", etc. It means exactly like it sounds -- people who display what they are feeling for all to see.

    37. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      French fries are german?

      They are, rigorously, Bolivian.

    38. Re: wow by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Allow me to pick a nit. I think it's accurate to say, "there's a real relationship." But the relationship that the girl thinks she has is fabricated.

      While it started as a paid service, if the girl believes that this person is her father, is the relationship itself fabricated -- to her? Does it matter otherwise?

      Calling off the relationship would be heartless but, as an adult, I think the girl deserves to know the truth.

      The heartless participant in this facade is the mother. She's letting her daughter think that this is her real father. The daughter is going to find out at some point. That may be when Mom stops paying "Pop" to be "Pop" and he walks. (Twice the problem -- the girl may think she's being abandoned by her real father, or she learns the person she's trusted for so long is really a fake.) That may be when daughter says "hey, Pop, I want to go to college. How much financial aid can I count on you for?" It may be when daughter has a medical issue that requires information about her parents, and the info from "Pop" proves he can't be her father after all (blood type, for example). But it will come out.

      Lying to her in the first place I feel was a mistake on the mother's part.

      It was patently stupid. The girl was being harassed by others because she didn't have a father. Suddenly this guy shows up and is her father. He's been seeing her for 8 years and she's just graduating high school. She's what, 17, 18 now? She was 9 or 10 when he suddenly appeared. Wouldn't any normal 9 or 10 year old who knows she's being harassed for not having a father be suspicious of anyone who appears as if by magic to fill that role? But more important, wouldn't a person of that age be able to understand "this is a guy who will pretend to be your dad for things where a dad would show up, to keep you from being harassed about it"?

    39. Re: wow by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      I think RENTING a father for 8 YEARS takes it to a new level.

      It's cheaper than the real thing.

      Ummm, I don't know about your childhood, but for me and most of the people I know, a father results in a positive cash flow for the family, not negative. Even if Mom is the breadwinner, Pop is usually providing parenting services that would cost a lot to buy elsewhere.

      The true cost comes in emotional damage when Pop leaves, again, because Mom stops paying him to be there. Or when Pop says "I ain't payin' for your college, bitch, I ain't your real dad."

    40. Re: wow by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      think of burgers and fries as American.

      You actually can get a burger and fries in Hamburg. I checked.

    41. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was not implying that only one side of the political spectrum is engaging in populism or that strange cultural differences only exist in CA (the "wearing it on one's sleeve" was a reference to those in the Bible Belt who use religion for similar signaling purposes). I just chose the things that I find strange, as an outsider, where I would prefer the "repressed" Japanese cultural choices (but like most things it is a balance that I personally find most comfortable).
       
      Just as Europeans are said to find it strange that American's always start small-talk with, "what do you do?", I find it strange that Californians have begun to start with, "what is your cause?"
       
      And yes, I do recognize that these are only observations from one person's experiences having to regularly travel there for business and even more likely just due to confirmation biases where the supporting cases stand out more vividly in my recollection.

    42. Re: wow by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Easy to replace a lie with another lie.

      He's your stepfather.

      --
      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    43. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you're wrong, Japanese are sick fucks.

    44. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Expression mostly used with religion, where something is being displayed to signal to others in a group, rather than a genuine belief.

    45. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You bigot, let him chose her own pronouns.

    46. Re: wow by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      He's your stepfather.

      "He's your stepfather who doesn't eat or sleep here, and he's never around except for functions where you need "a father", and he's not married to your Mom ..." Yeah, that lie is so much more believable.

    47. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As stated above, "Wearing your heart on your sleeve," is an expression meaning to be utterly transparent in your emotions / desires, especially toward a love interest. If John is not subtle or guarded about his affection for Cindy, he is wearing his heart on his sleeve.

      If this is currently being used to indicate a feigning faith in public, which I've never heard, that's not the original usage and is, in fact, the opposite of the original usage.

      Wearing your religion on your sleeve would imply you don't pretend to be non-religious when you actually are. But that's a weird thing to say so I doubt people say it.

    48. Re: wow by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      I think this is creepy, then I thought of nannies. While it doesn't have any of the lie/false relationship (maybe we'll find out this whole story is fake), the nanny is paid to be there, and is also in a friendship with the kid, especially as the kid gets older. If the nanny stopped being paid, she'd leave, to earn wages elsewhere.

      (While it's a fictionalized account, I recently saw the awesome movie "Goodbye Christopher Robin", and he seemed to have a better relationship with his nanny than he did with his mom.)

    49. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in Brazil, and, believe me, the regular potato, which originates in South America, is called 'English Potato' to distinguish them from sweet potato. Go figure [blame it on the Portuguese].

    50. Re: wow by tattood · · Score: 1

      I would like to know what the actor would do if the daughter ever saw him out in public somewhere being a "dad/boyfriend/husband" to another customer. That would be really hard to explain.

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      WTB [sig], PST!!!
    51. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poutine is pretty great, eh?

    52. Re: wow by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      I know stepfathers who continue their relationship with their step children after divorces.

      Heck, I even know one step father who got custody of the children over the biological father. The stepfather had been there for them since they were 2, had a good job, and stable living arrangements. The father was never there for them, was a drug user, had no stable employment or really living quarters.

      So yea.. I lost track with your real father. Your stepfather loved you so we never told you different but now it's time you know.

      Also divorced stepfathers rarely have any easily provable legal ties to ex wives unless there was alimony involved.

      --
      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    53. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they do wear colored bracelets.

    54. Re:wow by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Do I know you? You sound familiar, eh?

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    55. Re:wow by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      There is no debate.
      Or are you a french fries denier?

      They are Belgic, everyone knows that.

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    56. Re: wow by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      I know stepfathers who continue their relationship with their step children after divorces.

      Critical thought in that sentence: after divorces. He can't be her step-father "after a divorce" is he was never married to her mother.

      Also divorced stepfathers rarely have any easily provable legal ties to ex wives unless there was alimony involved.

      Uhhh, there's a little thing called a marriage certificate.

      It's a moot point, since you are saying that you replace the lie "Lucy, I am your father" with "Lucy, I am your step father" after 8 years. A "father" doesn't turn into "step-father", and if the step-father was never married to the mother then he doesn't turn into a step-father at all. "Father" doesn't need matrimony to be one; step-fathers only assume that role after that happens. Otherwise it is "boyfriend".

      And, in any case, a lie like this will not turn out well for anyone involved, even the duplicitous mother.

    57. Re:wow by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      They are 40 and look like 14 ...

      --
      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
    58. Re:wow by slew · · Score: 2

      Doesn't anyone remember any Shakespeare?

      For when my outward action doth demonstrate
      The native act and figure of my heart
      In compliment extern, 'tis not long after
      But I will wear my heart upon my sleeve
      For daws to peck at: I am not what I am.
      --Shakespeare, Othello, Act 1, Scene 1

      Of course it originally didn't mean what people think it means today. Following the Othello reference, it is meant to denote someone who is potentially aggressively expressing a thought or belief to appear to be faithful, but in reality has a subversive intent. Think of it the counterpart to another common Shakespearean phrase: "The lady doth protest too much."

    59. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other ways they are also quite honest, attentive, considerate, respectful, etc, and don't feel everyone should have a gun

      By the way we have the same rent-a-friend services online, and meanwhile if we can't find the friends we like, we force them or attempt to and sexually assault them, and if society doesn't behave the way we like we empty a banana clip randomly

    60. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... renting a hooker is much cheaper ...

      You imply there's a difference but I don't see it.

      A male aged 24+ has the societal purpose of paying someone else's costs. Most men do that by paying, in some form, for sex and paying more for the resulting babies. (An alternative is fighting wars to ensure rich people remain rich.) Of course, to support babies they need to earn money, which gives them an economic purpose. We tend to concentrate on the 'get a job' angle and assume the rest is automatic. But it isn't; very few people fit in the category of 'normal' and the societal abundance of relationships is testament more to our hatred of loneliness than our ability to be good employees, spouses, parents.

      Presumably, you are normal and disapprove of any deviation from the plan, such as living in mum's basement or renting a vagina as needed.

    61. Re: wow by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      But the relationship that the girl thinks she has is fabricated.

      So it's like an adoption?

      --
      Ezekiel 23:20
    62. Re: wow by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Business is business and friendship doesn't put food on the table.

      True, however it is a interesting way to make friends. A friend in need is a friend indeed.

      If the mom stopped paying, time to go.

      Maybe. I think affairs of the heart have a tendency to overshadow business, that's the true business risk, getting involved, actually genuinely caring. You would have to have a heart of stone not to.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    63. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The same is true of any employee in any situation. They are being paid to hang around and pretend that they care about someone else's company.

    64. Re: wow by gnick · · Score: 1

      But the relationship that the girl thinks she has is fabricated.

      So it's like an adoption?

      Not remotely. There's no reason to lie to a child about whether they share blood with their parents. An adoptive relationship does not at all need to be based on falsehoods.

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    65. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't stand that Domhnall Gleeson kid. I would seriously punch him in the face if we ever met.

    66. Re: wow by mikael · · Score: 1

      That's the way children from wealthy families were brought up in those days. They are sent off to boarding school for every school term only coming home for the Easter and Winter holidays. Simply because the parents were too busy working to have time for them. Or they might have been home schooled by tutors.

      --
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    67. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "No, no, it's not me honey... I'm your father's identical twin brother"

    68. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Americans deny all problems and blame Japan instead. This has become an epidemic.

    69. Re: wow by swamp_ig · · Score: 1

      Me too. Part of me wonders / hopes that this job won't be replaced by robots...

    70. Re: wow by swamp_ig · · Score: 1

      I... think you're fundamentally missattributing the work of individuals with that of a country. There's plenty of stuff from most cultures everywhere, plus good ideas spread.

    71. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wrong. Lies are profitable.

    72. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So being bullied because father is not around is what normal people do and not sociopathic after all?

    73. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then just cope without college. Many do much More successful than those who have a degree.

    74. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/cookies/women's underwear/

    75. Re: wow by dddux · · Score: 1

      Wealthy parents busy working? They're not working, just making a pile of money they already have bigger with a ton of help from their employees who are trying to make their own pile of money so they could stop working for those arseholes and be an arsehole independent from them. Being wealthy is mostly about having to attend meetings, appointments, parties, heaps of expensive food, alcohol and drugs, pretending to be depressed, having affairs and just not working in a classical sense of the word. I mean, why would we aspire to be like them if it involved high amounts of real, either physical or mental work? The whole point of getting rich is to be able to stop working and enjoy your life properly. That is unobtanium for the 99%.

      --
      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
    76. Re: wow by dddux · · Score: 1

      Although funny, there is something to it, mate... ;)

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      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
    77. Re: wow by dddux · · Score: 1

      That's what I was referring to. lol

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      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
    78. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you said can be applied to Donald Trump, Evangelicals, alt-righters, etc., so it's not exclusively a California thing.

    79. Re:wow by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      And the Thai restaraunts prove Thailand rules the world, right?
      Well that was quick

    80. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He has a bunch of different fake mustaches.

    81. Re: wow by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      So you think children see the marriage certificate? I didn't see my mom's until after she was dead. And if I hadn't seen it then I wouldn't have been surprised by a missing 47 year old document.

      It's not a moot point. I'm saying it would be easy to lie to the daughter and say the "father" was really her "stepfather" and her father was out of the picture (as he really was).

      It's a trivially easy lie to cover the issue.

      --
      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    82. Re: wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've read the entire article the excerpt is from, and he says he doesn't love the girl. He has regular nightmares about her finding out about the truth.

  2. Oh, come on... by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The mere existence of such a business is a strong indication for the need of some society-wide social engineering and an improvement in mental health care.

    1. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But busybodies like you don't need a justification to meddle in others' lives, do you?

    2. Re:Oh, come on... by KiloByte · · Score: 0

      Compared to current state of countries like the US, Japan looks quite sane to me. For example: some of US right considers you to be a subhuman if your dermis has the wrong color, or your genitals are mutilated (or not) -- while a sizeable chunk of US left *drumroll* considers you to be a subhuman if your dermis has the wrong color, or your genitals are not mutilated.

      Same with sky fairies, or their equivalents (ideologies that have all the hallmarks of a religion yet don't identify with being one): try to worship the wrong one, or a slightly different denomination, and you can fear for your life.

      --
      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    3. Re:Oh, come on... by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      I think you got part of that backwards - the right wing wants men circumcised, the left doesn't. I think it's only a small minority of the right that wants women mutilated, too. I think your average God-fearing right-wing Christian in America is NOT onboard with slicing up women's privates.

      The right wing tends to have a lot of white supremacists, I think the left is more about condescending to non-whites and discriminating in their favour on the implicit assumption that whites are superior. That's still racism, obviously, but it is qualitatively different.

      On homophobia... I think the right has a lock on that one. On the other hand, a lot of the left seems very set on convincing us we're all 'genderfluid' and 'polysexual' or whatever and get very upset if you dare to be gender typical and exclusively heterosexual.

      And given enough power, either extreme will gladly persecute (and possibly kill) you if you don't behave as they want you to according to their belief system. At present, though, I think the radical right is the bigger threat.

    4. Re:Oh, come on... by gnick · · Score: 1, Informative

      ...some of US right considers you to be a subhuman if your dermis has the wrong color...

      Right. Who's ever accused the Japanese culture of harboring racism? Not this gaijin!

      ...a sizeable chunk of US left *drumroll* considers you to be a subhuman if...your genitals are not mutilated.

      Who the fuck are these left-wing nuts that you speak of requiring us all to modify our genitals? I've not encountered this "sizeable chunk."

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    5. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Compared to current state of countries like the US, Japan looks quite sane to me. For example: some of US right considers you to be a subhuman if your dermis has the wrong color, or your genitals are mutilated (or not) --

      You clearly don't know the Japanese society. Unbelievably racist.

    6. Re:Oh, come on... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I think you got part of that backwards - the right wing wants men circumcised, the left doesn't.

      As a liberal I have to agree. Why were my genitals not mutilated at birth? Because my parents were hippies!

      This is why righties are so set on controlling everybody and regulating people's bedrooms; they've got serious macho hangups because they're missing part of their junk!

    7. Re:Oh, come on... by Njovich · · Score: 1

      Does the existence of X somewhere in America indicate that there is a society wide problem? Do you think nobody in America would use this type of service?

    8. Re:Oh, come on... by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      Do you think America doesn't have some serious issues requiring some social engineering and improvements in health care?

    9. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know, man. Seems like this may be a better approach for sanity than America's, where we'd just let the kid be bullied constantly and wait until she shoots up a public place or runs over a crowd before we point out that maybe someone should have tried to help her out somehow.

      I mean, yeah, it's sad that it's needed, but on some level the kid is being taken care of.

    10. Re:Oh, come on... by e_pluribus_funk · · Score: 1

      >Why were my genitals not mutilated at birth? Because my parents were hippies!

      Yep, that must be why. Never mind that I'm not a hippy and am quite conservative (despite being atheist) and I didn't mutilate my kid's genitals at birth.

    11. Re:Oh, come on... by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      The mere existence of such a business is a strong indication for the need of some society-wide social engineering and an improvement in mental health care.

      But isn't such a business part of the solution?
      That's a logical step in specialization society : people with great social skills get paid to make up for the lack of other people social skills. Just like people with no fishing skills buying fish from skilled fishermen.
      It doesn't mean that we can't improve society and psychiatry at the same time but the existence of such businesses is not a bad thing.
      Just like prosthetics : sure, it shows that we can't regrow legs and that medicine still has work to do, but in the meantime, it mostly shows that we found a way for people without legs to walk again, even if it is not perfect.

    12. Re: Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GROSS! Franny dont tollerate no wormies!

    13. Re:Oh, come on... by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      Not sure where you get your data, it isn't the case that the left wants men uncircumsized or wants you to be genderfluid and polysexual - the left just doesn't give a fuck whether or not you're circumsized or what fucking gender you consider yourself or what kind of people you love. Allowing people to be whatever they want is a a LOT different than forcing your beliefs on people.

    14. Re:Oh, come on... by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Who the fuck are these left-wing nuts that you speak of requiring us all to modify our genitals? I've not encountered this "sizeable chunk."

      I think the implication was that jews are usually left-wing and jews think circumcision is required. He's greatly overestimating the size of the jewish population though.

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    15. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Japanese isn't a race, idiot.

    16. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who the fuck are these left-wing nuts that you speak of requiring us all to modify our genitals? I've not encountered this "sizeable chunk."

      I think the implication was that jews are usually left-wing and jews think circumcision is required. He's greatly overestimating the size of the jewish population though.

      To be fair that 2% of the population is also nearly half of the 1%. Perhaps he is overestimating the cultural influence of the people that hold most of the wealth and positions of institutional power.

    17. Re:Oh, come on... by gnick · · Score: 1

      Even the Jews only think circumcision is appropriate for half the population. They don't consider women "subhuman if...[their] genitals are not mutilated". Whether they consider non-Jews "subhuman" I suppose is up to the individual Jew, but I'd hope that's a minority opinion. I don't know the political views of a typical Jew, but I'm pretty sure their politics are independent of how they handle their dicks.

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    18. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's ever accused the Japanese culture of harboring racism? Not this gaijin!

      Neatly put.

      http://www.newsweek.com/why-does-no-one-care-japanese-are-openly-racist-364129

      I think Japan is getting less racist over time. I hope so.

      Who the fuck are these left-wing nuts that you speak of requiring us all to modify our genitals? I've not encountered this "sizeable chunk."

      Yeah, that was a WTF for me too. I guess this is some slam against Jews or something.

      But it is common among the True Believer "progressives" to rank people according to how oppressed they are (literally in a stack of oppression) and surprisingly they love to use race for this. So a millionaire black rapper or movie star, living in a mansion in Beverly Hills, is still considered to be oppressed and a poor white single mom who lives in the worst neighborhood in Detroit still needs to check her privilege. I don't get it

    19. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's in the culture though, and culture doesn't change overnight if at all. In the US we have zero-tolerance policy; in Japan, schools must provide education up to junior high school and as such, students can't get expelled easily. Schools are afraid to report bullying incidents, therefore nothing is being done - unless parents (usually the dad) get involved to sort out the situation.

    20. Re:Oh, come on... by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Allowing people to be whatever they want is a a LOT different than forcing your beliefs on people.

      You mean forcing people to tolerate things that they don't believe are right but you do isn't forcing your beliefs on them?

    21. Re:Oh, come on... by KiloByte · · Score: 0

      I think the implication was that jews are usually left-wing and jews think circumcision is required. He's greatly overestimating the size of the jewish population though.

      Uhm, I don't exactly see Jews as left-wing -- although there's a lot of ex-Jews on the left. And I definitely was not speaking of circumcision (which is bad, but that's another matter) but of so-called "gender reassignment" (mutilation as no technology to change anyone's gender exists yet). Although for the latter, you don't need to actually get your genitals mutilated, lying about this and wearing makeup is just as good.

      But, my point is that both sides have a fixation on your skin color (white vs black) and genitals (Nazis: circumcised? die!, 70% of current USians: must be circumcised, SJWs: must be a woman but transgender is greatly preferred).

      What is in your pants is -- should be -- totally irrelevant. Likewise, giving a bonus to anyone based on skin color is strongly harmful. But both are the main part of identity politics.

      --
      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    22. Re:Oh, come on... by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      You clearly don't know the Japanese society. Unbelievably racist.

      Yet you can walk on the street in Japan and not get assaulted. Try walking through a black district in an US city, while white -- not a healthy idea. I've ever been to the US just twice, but both times some friends made such a mistake and had to negotiate to keep their faces in one piece. The US is incredibly racist.

      --
      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    23. Re:Oh, come on... by whyyisthissohard · · Score: 1

      It's society-wide engineering that caused this problem. The solution is to simply remove these engineered structure and let society heal on its own.

      This is the face of western occupation. This is the face of the 'feminism' that was imposed in propaganda and law.
      'Sexual revolution' is newspeak for "complete destruction of the family and society".
      'Equality' is newspeak for "ignoring certain crucial aspects of family life because external distractions provide more immediate pleasure".

      This is why nationalism is growing in Japan. People are realizing that everything the West sold them was a complete lie. Like the firebombings and atomic bombs weren't a hint....'we know you will never agree to all the totally insane impositions we will make on you, so if you don't go along with it we will burn your entire population alive.'
      And people are still patriotic in this country. "But Pearl Harbor! They FORCED us to!"
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      With all the resources available the lemmings, no matter how much they make, no matter how much they have at their disposal, will always attend to their animal comforts rather than society; they will never learn and develop unless they are forced to. And that is why they are selected for work, loans, and opportunity in general. And that is why instead of worrying about Japan, we should look at it and be reminded to worry about ourselves.

    24. Re:Oh, come on... by whyyisthissohard · · Score: 0

      Basically "oh you're Equal now, feel free to circumvent traditional courtship....but beware if your judgement fails, you will have to bear the consequences!" is a deal that people are not equipped with the faculties to accept. Which is why traditional courtship existed to begin with.
      "But individualism is the supreme moral imperative....because....reasons!!! Better to be Free to do whatever you want on whim than to follow rules that are proven to lead to success!"
      Tell me that while staring at the graph of birthrate of Japan since postwar occupation.

    25. Re:Oh, come on... by whyyisthissohard · · Score: 0

      The thing is that the rules set a bar for individual quality. The endless baying of the world's human failures has resulted in liberalism. We are all being punished for the suspension of natural law that says the weak shall die. Our greed in keeping servants instead of banishing the weak to the wilderness or executing them is killing the entire planet.

      "But that's mean!"
      To that I say: YOU are one of the ones that would be banished or executed. And you cannot suspend your fate forever, even if you take all that is good down with you.

    26. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forcing tolerance is what Jesus would want.

    27. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU are one of the ones that would be banished or executed. And you cannot suspend your fate forever, even if you take all that is good down with you.

      Who gets to decide who the weak are? There are plenty of strong brutes who can take a lot of licks in a fight, but put them up to any kind of work more complex than minor demolition and they'd fall apart like a Wheatbix in a flood. Likewise, there are plenty of people with strong minds capable of complex tasks who wouldn't last a day doing manual labor. The argument of elimination of the weak is an empty one usually thrown about by people who imagine themselves a member of the culling party without any notion that they themselves are probably near the top of the imaginary list.

    28. Re:Oh, come on... by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Forcing tolerance is what Jesus would want.

      I love it when antitheists try to tell us about religion. No, sorry, the part about "force" is a dead giveaway that you are wrong.

    29. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think when "behind closed doors" you find that the left are every bit the same or more than what they accuse the right of. They call the right racists, white supremacists despite that being a very tiny but extremely easy to find (and notice) part of the group. Then they think nobody is looking and you get things like Clinton's "I'm on colored people time", or the fore-mentioned condescension. The big difference is, the the surpremacists ARE a very tiny part of the right, and VERY easy to pick out. The people who pull things like that on the left are far more pervasive but they've decided that to hang on to the votes they have to pretend. Pretend THEY freed the slaves. Pretend THEY voted for full voting rights for blacks. Pretend THEY voted for integration. It was very much the opposite. I know, I know, supposedly the "parties switched" but if you follow history, they certainly did not. It's just the goalposts for what was just and fair was moved. It's not about anyone's rights anymore, it's about someone's feelings and what they want rather than what is truly fair and honest.

    30. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is very true. I lived in Japan over three years' time. I would regularly see signs outside of businesses that read "No Gaijin", meaning "No foreigners!". This is legal and tolerated. I've seen variations on the theme such as "No Cocojin", meaning black people.

      The Japanese are very insular. They see other asians as not even fit to mow their lawns, not that many Japanese have lawns. Most of the grunt work in Japan is done by peasant Koreans or Filipinos. They are treated with utter disdain. I've seen it a million times.

      Japanese women, however, are sweet and eager to please their men. They are intelligent and while their English or your Japanese may be unfit for complete conversations, you get your point across easily enough. I dated a female barber who went out of her way to be a great girlfriend. Her father forbid her to marry me, as he was offended by the notion of his daughter marrying a foreigner and having devil children. One of my only regrets in life was having to leave that situation.

    31. Re: Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Weak are obviously ones who canâ(TM)t function and contribute to society. Itâ(TM)s not about physical strength.

    32. Re: Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars.

      Aka

      Pay your taxes. Which are collected under implicit threat of force.

    33. Re:Oh, come on... by slew · · Score: 1

      Compared to current state of countries like the US, Japan looks quite sane to me.

      It may look "sane" from the outside, but Japan remains one of the most racist societies in the world.

      * Many landlords won't rent apartments to non Japanese (even Japanese people born in the US)
      * Korean and Chinese people are treated especially harshly (probably because of historical issues)
      * Ethnic minorities (Ainu, Ryu/Okinawan) cultures are not well respected politically

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asi...

      I'm sorry you tried to use Japan to make your point, because I think it is lost because of that...

    34. Re:Oh, come on... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      So you think your idea of who is what gender overrides everybody else's. Figures.

      The original accusation is that the left considers you subhuman if your genitals are intact. That's incredibly obtuse. Gender reassignment surgery is for transsexuals, nobody else. Leftists will normally welcome people regardless of what's in their pants, while right-wingers insist on knowing whether what's in the pants matches what was in the diaper.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    35. Re:Oh, come on... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Race is a social construct, not biological, so a race is whatever enough people define it to be, idiot.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    36. Re:Oh, come on... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      And weak men who are threatened by strong women make crap up (including pseudo-science) to justify their anger. Feminism is the idea that women are actually human, just as men are.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    37. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But busybodies like you don't need a justification to meddle in others' lives, do you?

      Nor you to be a jerk.

    38. Re:Oh, come on... by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      Allowing people to be whatever they want is a a LOT different than forcing your beliefs on people.

      You mean forcing people to tolerate things that they don't believe are right but you do isn't forcing your beliefs on them?

      Forcing to tolerate? What the fuck does that even mean? Not letting you beat people up you don't like? If you don't like something go away.

    39. Re:Oh, come on... by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      Not only Jews. Old school Catholics also still circumcise. It is tradition not a requirement.

    40. Re:Oh, come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean forcing people to tolerate things that they don't believe are right but you do isn't forcing your beliefs on them?

      So you assert that you and yours are the only people allowed to be free? We can't have you triggered by naked people, rock and roll, or Dungeons and Dragons, after all.

    41. Re:Oh, come on... by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      Circumcision divides both the right and the left ... they are both torn between not mutilating kids and virtue signaling pro-semitism.

    42. Re:Oh, come on... by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      They can't be Catholics if they use circumcision as a religious ritual, that has been explicitly forbidden since 1445 in the Catholic church (actually since the New Testament was canonized, but some people are really bad readers so they had to make it clearer).

    43. Re: Oh, come on... by invalid_user · · Score: 1

      OMG. A Japanese is a citizen of Japan. That's all.

      Sometimes, we discuss about the Japanese race - in which case, it refers to the complicated genetic origin of what makes up the current people of Japan.

      Look, keep your gender studies and postmodernism within American campuses. The world doesn't want them.

    44. Re:Oh, come on... by Woldscum · · Score: 1

      "It is tradition not a requirement."

      Also women cover their heads anytime in a church building. Same tradition that drives wearing a yamaka/kippah. Catholic tradition from OLD european groups.

    45. Re:Oh, come on... by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Leftists will normally welcome people regardless of what's in their pants

      Are we on the same planet? Lemme check: Earth, Sol System, Milky Way, Laniakea?

      There's a lot of bad that can be said about rightards: keeping a single coal power plant kills a human per two days with just short-term pollution, long term pollution threatens to make Earth unhabitable, corpo takeovers, etc -- but I don't see them discriminating based on gender in any noticeable way. Lefttists on the other hand can't shut up about imagined "privilege" checks.

      It's like them calling your Dear Leader a "nazi". It's mind-boggling -- it's pretty hard to find anything good to say about the guy, yet somehow the Left accuses him nearly exclusively of a flaw he doesn't happen to have. Who's a nazi: someone whose first foreign visit was to Israel, whose daughter converted to judaism, etc -- or the likes of Sanders or Zuckerberg who can't stop spewing praise of a "murder the whites" movement?

      There's no way to change one's gender yet. If you're interested, there's porn with MtF individuals: unlike the vast majority of regular porn, such persons try to avoid any penetration of their ersatz vaginas. Thus, if you really want to stick your pecker into an artificial vagina-like object, there are ways to do so that don't involve crippling a human.

      Once such technology appears, then we can talk about becoming a gender other than that you were born with.

      But then, looking at your posting history: "Race is a social construct, not biological, so a race is whatever enough people define it to be, idiot." -- WTF? Newsflash: at the very least, race makes some people better at synthesizing vitamin D but worse at resisting strong sun. This is enough to prove that race is a biological fact -- yet somehow you insist on calling everyone who says so an "idiot". What this fact implies is a different matter (somehow, both right and left want to give one of the sides an unfair bonus).

      Sorry, neither race nor gender are mere social constructs. You don't get to decide that 2+2=5 just because that's what your religion says.

      --
      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    46. Re: Oh, come on... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I didn't mention gender, and I'm being premodern if anything. If you look for "racial characteristics" in stuff written before, say 1950, you'll find a lot of writing on the characteristics of the French race and the German race and the Italian race and so on. The idea of black, white, and yellow being the races (Negroid, Caucasian, and Mongoloid) is relatively new as a general agreement, and "Japanese" works as a racial designation as well as cultural and language.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    47. Re:Oh, come on... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      "Gender" is a social construct. "Sex" is biological. There's sometimes a disconnect here. The people who I've seen most strongly defending the idea that women are inherently different tend to be right-wing. If men's brains and women's brains are different, what's to stop rare occasions where a man's brain is in a woman's body or vice versa?

      On the left, we tend to just accept people. It's the right that generally worries about whether someone had a penis or vagina at birth (and doesn't seem to worry that it isn't always that clear-cut). A leftist sees a woman going into the ladies' room. It's only right-wingers who want to know what she's got in her underwear.

      There are indeed biological differences between races. One medical test I have gotten has different normal parameters for blacks and non-blacks. That doesn't explain the social behavior differences between how people are treated. The most significant part of race, by far, is the social ramifications, and those are based on relatively superficial characteristics that aren't always biologically significant.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    48. Re: Oh, come on... by invalid_user · · Score: 1

      I see. My apologies.

      I got "triggered" by the term "social construct" -- it is so often used by postmodernists these days to obfuscate ideas and justify the deconstruction of almost any concept... concepts of trememdous utility.

      But clearly, I am the one who is over-sensitive in the present case. Terribly sorry.

    49. Re:Oh, come on... by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Yet you can walk on the street in Japan and not get assaulted. Try walking through a black district in an US city, while white -- not a healthy idea. I've ever been to the US just twice, but both times some friends made such a mistake and had to negotiate to keep their faces in one piece. The US is incredibly racist.

      I used to walk all over Chicago, and was never bothered, even in the lower income neighborhoods. Once in Cabrini Green a guy stopped me and offered to sell me drugs, but he was super friendly about it. Maybe I was lucky, but I was never targeted.

    50. Re:Oh, come on... by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Forcing to tolerate? What the fuck does that even mean? Not letting you beat people up you don't like?

      You are the only one talking about beating anyone up. Projection is something you should seek help for.

      I mean simple things, like "you run a business that bakes cakes, so you must bake a gay couple a cake no matter how you feel about the matter." Or "you're a parent of a ten year old girl and you find out that there is a 'boy' who claims he feels like a girl so 'he' gets to use the girls showers after PE." Or you're a woman standing in the women's rest room and a couple of men walk in.

      I expect that you will now attack me for using these examples, which will pretty much prove the point for me. The level of vitriol directed at people who do not accept the "new normal" is astounding. Trying to claim that it isn't trying to force people to accept that new normal would be laughable.

    51. Re: Oh, come on... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      No problem.

      Is there a phrase I should use other than "social construct" to mean a distinction imposed by society for no clear reason? I'd rather not cause unnecessary confusion.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  3. So the basis of your business model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is LIES!!!???

    1. Re:So the basis of your business model by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 1

      is LIES!!!???

      This is different from much of modern business how exactly?

    2. Re: So the basis of your business model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MUCH of modern business isn't based on lies.

    3. Re: So the basis of your business model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you are a lawyer (incl politicians), an actor, or a marketeer

    4. Re: So the basis of your business model by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 1

      Let me remind you that nearly every major bank was knowingly selling mortgage backed securities backed by junk mortgages prior to the crash of 2008. Many of those same banks were robo-signing foreclosures without verifying their paperwork, many homeowners had their homes stolen from them through foreclosure, even though they’d never missed a payment, some we’re foreclosed by banks that did not even own the mortgage anymore.

      Shall I start on the investment broker business next? Just this year they had new rules requiring them to act in thier client’s best interests ripped up. So I’ve covered about 20% of the U.S. economy, need I go on?

  4. Can we rent /. commenters too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd pay to read good comments here.

    1. Re:Can we rent /. commenters too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sorry, your credit has been denied, no good comments will be posted in this thread.

    2. Re:Can we rent /. commenters too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll write comments at $0.50 per word.
      I do a package deal of 100 words for $25 for first time buyers.
      We also have credit available.
      Humor is $0.25 extra per word.
      Intelligence is $1.00 extra per sentence.

    3. Re:Can we rent /. commenters too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd pay to read good comments here.

      What do you think Russia's been doing since 2011? If you aren't getting paid to post here, you need to get yourself an agent over at the greatest Russian Talent Agency, the FSB

  5. virtual reality by chronoglass · · Score: 2

    it's always been a thing...

  6. do they have Prostitution as part of this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    do they have Prostitution as part of this?

    1. Re: do they have Prostitution as part of this? by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The term in the sex trade I believe is "girlfriend experience". In addition to having sex with you the sex worker will also spend time pretending to love you. Since it's a higher level of service it naturally costs more.

      I find the notion that something like that exists poignant. Although prostitution where it exists outside the protection of law is alarmingly exploitative, I have no fundamental objection to trading a few minutes of physical pleasure or relief for money. But creating a counterfeit experience smacks of an infantile retreat from the difficulties of genuine relationships.

      In a world full of lonely people, the solution would seem to be obvious. But genuine intimacy requires risk and compromise. Compromise is increasingly a dirty word in our culture, but we fetishize risk, which is just another side of the same coin. A fetish isn't real; the kind of risk intimacy exposes you to *is* real. Nobody can disappoint, hurt or betray you like someone you love. But take away the danger, and what do you have left?

      I don't have as much of a problem with playing a role where society conventionally expects someone to come with a date say, but I do have a huge problem with counterfeiting an important relationship, especially on a nonconsenting party: e.g., pretending to be a child's parent. And it comes down to the pain which only people you love can inflict on you.

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      Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
    2. Re: do they have Prostitution as part of this? by bradley13 · · Score: 1

      The term in the sex trade I believe is "girlfriend experience". In addition to having sex with you the sex worker will also spend time pretending to love you. Since it's a higher level of service it naturally costs more.

      I speak from a lack of experience, but...isn't that the basically difference between a prostitute and an escort? The former will have sex with you, and that's it. The latter will go to an event with you, or out to dinner, or even spend the weekend. While sex may be part of the deal, it's really the full companionship package that you are paying for.

      That said, I agree with your comment about nonconsenting participants. The case mentioned in TFS is a horrible fraud played on the child. It is entirely likely that she will discover this at some point, and the feelings of betrayal will be huge.

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      Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
    3. Re: do they have Prostitution as part of this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... the difficulties of genuine relationships.

      Maybe that's the point: They can't handle the difficulty of dating and genuine relationships. That probably means they can't handle fake relationships well either.

      ... smacks of an infantile retreat ...

      Nobody likes to face their failures. Unfortunately when society and one's sex drive say one needs success (in relationships), many failed people will fake success in order to appease themselves and society.

    4. Re: do they have Prostitution as part of this? by slew · · Score: 1

      I don't have as much of a problem with playing a role where society conventionally expects someone to come with a date say, but I do have a huge problem with counterfeiting an important relationship, especially on a nonconsenting party: e.g., pretending to be a child's parent. And it comes down to the pain which only people you love can inflict on you.

      Interesting you say this, because I know of several folks who's parents pretended to be "married", and pretended to be "parents", and by counterfeiting these important relationships probably inflected an unbearable level of pain on their non-consenting children. Other than divorce money (and perhaps some payments to lawyers and therapists), no money was exchanged for the privilege...

      Just sayin' counterfeiting relationships happen in real life today, and actors are not even involved. One might questions if it is ethical, but don't pretend that similar levels of damage aren't being done today on a much larger scale by consenting adults. Who knows a rent-a-dad might be better than a real dad in some of these cases...

    5. Re: do they have Prostitution as part of this? by pots · · Score: 1

      I think you're reading too much into the "girlfriend experience" thing. Do you like your sex to be affectionate? Or matter-of-fact?

      What they're describing in the article is considerably more involved than that.

  7. Alejandro Casona by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is an excellent fiction book about this by Alejandro Casona: 'Los arboles mueren de pie' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Casona

  8. Very sad by Diakoneo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I saw the headline, I was going to come here and post a joke about the "world's oldest profession". But after reading the summary/article, I'm really saddened. Every family has skeletons in their closets, but this deception goes right to the core of who we are as humans.

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    "Just as there is nothing so unreal as reality TV, there is nothing as unsocial as social media." - Alistair Dabbs
    1. Re:Very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens when the actor dad quits, becomes a drunk, or otherwise screws up? Seems like this is a path to creating a worse situation, not a better one.

    2. Re:Very sad by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      In the US an "escort" is exactly what is described in the summary; a fake date. People who don't really understand what it is often confuse it with prostitution; understandably because sex is the most important part of a date to many people! But the reality is that a large part of the work is actually "escorting" men to social events and impersonating a date; not having sex, but pretending to be romantically interested. So that other people can see him receiving attention; so he appears normal. You can't go to a social function to "network" and just be a wall flower, after all. And even then, the size of the tip is likely related to if the date ended in sex, or not!

      It is true that prostitutes often pretend they're escorts; leading to the jokes. But escorts are a real thing. And sometimes it does end up involving longterm lies to family. The summary should be understood to be an extreme case, not the norm. I lived in a poor neighborhood and knew some escorts, pretending to be an actual girlfriend at an intimate family function was a common sort of situation they would talk about. A lot of them preferred just stripping at a hot tub party or something; easier.

      I wouldn't be surprised if the Japanese can manage to even spread it out over generations, but it is still the same root.

    3. Re:Very sad by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

      When I saw the headline, I was going to come here and post a joke about the "world's oldest profession". But after reading the summary/article, I'm really saddened. Every family has skeletons in their closets, but this deception goes right to the core of who we are as humans.

      In the USA, this kind of deception could have legal consequences that might be bad for the actor. In most if not all US states, child support is viewed as the right of the child. That means that states can go after deadbeat dads. And there have been cases where non-biological fathers thought they were a child's biological father and found out that they weren't but they still had to pay child support because it's the child's right to get support and that trumps a lack of a biological connection.

    4. Re:Very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes sex isn't the goal. I nearly hired two escorts once, but my lawyer told me not to.

      I was going through a nasty divorce. Nasty as in her idea of going away present was to get me knifed - 2 operations later not everything still works; some damage is permanent - and then emptying out the bank accounts on the way out, right after running up some large bills on our shared credit card. Divorces are rarely pleasant to begin with, but her actions made it worse. We had not spoken or even seen each other since she moved out.

      I knew she was the jealous type, so I knew she would hate seeing two affectionate girls hanging on me at our trial. I didn't care about sex, I just wanted some measure of revenge and to leave her feeling bad. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), I told my lawyer and he made me call it off since the judge would hold that against me and screw me over (which the judge did anyway).

    5. Re:Very sad by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A professional escort is not generally obligated to lie to others about who they are.

    6. Re:Very sad by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      In the US an "escort" is exactly what is described in the summary; a fake date.

      What is described in the summary is not a "fake date". This is someone who is being paid by a third party to act as if he's a girl's father. This is a long-term usually genetic relationship, which involves deep emotional ties and trust. A "fake date" ends at the end of the night, it's a low-level social interaction for a few hours.

      Those who hire escorts to attend some function with them are fully aware of the situation and the temporary status of the "relationship". They are generally not deluded enough to think that the escort is there because he or she loves and cares about them, and that the escort is interested in any way in a long-term relationship.

      When you have a company providing "escorts", you don't ask the clients if they are okay with keeping up "the lie" forever.

      It is true that prostitutes often pretend they're escorts;

      They don't pretend to be escorts. They tell the police or a worried john that they are "escorts" because "escort" is legal and in almost all places "prostitute" is illegal. The john is still expecting sex for his money; he's just coordinating their stories in advance should a copper start asking questions.

    7. Re:Very sad by dlingman · · Score: 1

      What happens when the actor dad quits, becomes a drunk, or otherwise screws up? Seems like this is a path to creating a worse situation, not a better one.

      He drowns in a fake boating accident obviously.

    8. Re:Very sad by whyyisthissohard · · Score: 1

      This is the face of western occupation. This is the face of the 'feminism' that was imposed in propaganda and law.
      'Sexual revolution' is newspeak for "complete destruction of the family and society".
      'Equality' is newspeak for "ignoring certain crucial aspects of family life because external distractions provide more immediate pleasure".

      This is why nationalism is growing in Japan. People are realizing that everything the West sold them was a complete lie.

    9. Re:Very sad by Falos · · Score: 3, Informative

      I finally came back to RTFA.

      Most posts here (including some in this thread tree) keep talking about prostitutes and escorts. Which isn't unreasonable given TFS.

      But TFA goes further. It's surreal. This sort of acting, of... reality orchestration, is the kind of shit reserved for fiction. The Truman Show. It's unexpectedly similar to Dollhouse, if you've seen it:

      [regarding a 60-year-old man whose wife died]
      Morin: "Did she have the same memories as the wife?"
      Yuichi: "There are certain memories, yes. There’s a blank sheet, and the client writes the memories that he wants the wife to remember."

      This is the stuff of fantasy, Hollywood CIA professionals who replace people (could be friend, could be foe) with a trained lookalike. If you told me such a business existed, I'd mock the sheer practicality of it (many posts have) but it turns out people will take what's available. Limited durations (not if the money keeps flowing) or capabilities aren't a problem for some scenarios. Give TFA a read, people. I can see how various "apology" actors would be useful.

    10. Re:Very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that you, Borat?

    11. Re:Very sad by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Just like your barista is not obligated to give a free biscotti, but if you're a regular it might happen!

      What makes you think "obligations" are the source of behaviors, rather than a desire to please the customer and achieve return business?

    12. Re:Very sad by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I don't think you really understood my comment. At all. I explicitly stated that the case in the summary isn't the norm, if you want to use that case to somehow say I'm wrong about my observations, you'd have to start with that; proving that the case in the summary is the norm rather than the exception. Without that, you don't even raise anything, you just show you didn't understand what was said.

    13. Re:Very sad by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      I don't think you really understood my comment. At all. I explicitly stated that the case in the summary isn't the norm,

      You also explicitly referred to it as a "fake date", whether it is the "norm" for such a date or not. It is so far outside the "norm" for "date" that it truly isn't the same thing. Using the ubiquitous car analogy, it would be like you claiming that someone who described a Japanese bullet train was just describing an automobile, just not the normal automobile. The differences are so large and significant that nobody could say that an automobile is just an abnormal bullet train.

      if you want to use that case to somehow say I'm wrong about my observations, you'd have to start with that; proving that the case in the summary is the norm rather than the exception.

      Wrong again. I don't have to prove that anything in the summary is normal, only that you are wrong. It isn't a "fake date". Trying to claim it is means you don't understand the vast difference between being someone's date and someone's father. I tried explaining those differences to you, but you apparently did not understand them.

      I'm sorry if your experience with a father (or mother, depending on the case) was more like a "fake date" than a true parent/child relationship, but the vast majority of the world understands that the two things are not, and should not be, alike. There are times when father/daughter activities might look like they are on a "date", but the underlying relationship still exists. It is that relationship that makes calling it a "fake date" so ludicrous.

    14. Re:Very sad by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      LOL weird comment. I only wrote a few words, pretty sad that you found that much to misunderstand. You keep saying I'm "wrong" about something, but actually you just don't understand my comments.

      When you don't understand something, it might just be wrong, but you might also have just not understood it! That goes double when people are talking about Nippon. When talking about Nippon in English it is most likely that if it made literal sense, you misunderstood the translation.

      And yes; you're claiming I'm wrong about something, all the burdens of proof are on you! If you can't prove that the situation in the comments is normal, (it tells you it isn't) then you can't even know if I'm wrong, you certainly can't make a case claiming that I'm wrong. That is just, I hate to say it, moronic.

      Logically you shouldn't even know you disagree yet, but you're already all the way up to "yer rong!!!"

  9. Re: This is retarded. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In America we worship families like the Kardashians. How is that better?

  10. Don't forget to upgrade the plan by chispito · · Score: 1

    Don't forget to upgrade your friend rental to include a dog on the side.

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  11. Perpetual fakery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now imagine at he explains where he goes to work everyday: to a company that acts as substitute family. As lord Cypher once said: Jesus. What a mind-job.

  12. Fake dad? Fake space, fake Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can agree that faking a father isn't so nice, just imagine if they lied about the Earth!

    Space is fake. Earth is flat. The eclipses prove it.

    The Flat Earth Solar Eclipse: https://vimeo.com/230976895
    Corona not shaped in a spherical configuration; orients toward Earth. Corona lines can be observed to move faster than the speed of light. Light of the corona can be observed on the back of the moon. Light of the chromosphere can be observed on the back of the moon. Light of protuberences can be observed on the back of the moon. Sun and Moon same size and near

    The Flat Earth Lunar Eclipse: https://vimeo.com/92378881
    Irregular shadow shape, progression. Shadow is black, then changes color to reddish: Shadows don't change color. Moon glow of uneclipsed portion increases as shadow becomes reddish, detail lost. Moon has no rotation(see Nikola Tesla): we always see the same face. Moon emits own light. Craters not from impacts: Too round.
    No model of the lunar eclipse correctly captures it:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/10/06/why-does-the-moon-turn-red-during-a-lunar-eclipse/
    https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/usa/scottsdale?iso=20140415
    software:Stellarium 0.16.1 Next lunar eclipse: January 30, 2018 North America

  13. No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in Japan for 2 years. Great place, but there are some odd goings on, such as renting friends. One of the more interesting things in Japanese culture is the way in which they conduct business deals: they are all done in the evening over drinks in bars. This is referred to as "mizu shobai", literally the water trade. One wanders around the bars in or near the business districts of any Japanese city of size and men in business suits (salaryman) are out in vast numbers doing their bit.

    Japanese don't see the world the way westerners do, obviously. They tend to see things in terms of being in a team than alone. There is no "I", "me", "mine" much in Japanese culture. They embody the teamwork ethic very well. It's a plus and a downfall for obvious reasons.

    Japanese food is outstanding, their snacks and goodies fantastic. Their cartoons and manga are the best. Their electronics are fantastic. You'll see things in Japan and then they'll turn up 5 years later everywhere else.

    Japanese smoke everywhere. This was not a problem for me, a smoker.

    Taxis are clean, efficient, and relatively inexpensive.

    It's fun going down the seaport areas where there are long, winding dock roads. Young Japanese low-riders (bosozuku) will attend in great numbers with their tricked-out cars and motorcycles. It's an odd mix of girls and guys who all look to be extras in a Blade Runner-esque movie.

    Japanese women are friendly, but not easy sexual targets like western women. They like a bit of courting. Prostitution and hard core (full nudity) pornography are highly illegal and will get anyone time in the "monkey house" (prison). And yes, they take it deadly seriously. This stuff does exist, but it's treated akin to illegal drugs in America--it's kept largely out of sight, and damn harder to acquire should you roll that way.

    A DUI, if you drive, will end your life as you know it. You'll spend years in prison. Fighting with a Japanese citizen will result in the same.

    While not as strict as Singapore, the Japanese penal system isn't something with which you want to be acquainted.

    All in all , a great country to live in or visit. I'm looking forward to going back.

    1. Re:No way by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      A DUI, if you drive, will end your life as you know it. You'll spend years in prison. Fighting with a Japanese citizen will result in the same.

      While not as strict as Singapore, the Japanese penal system isn't something with which you want to be acquainted.

      That's actually quite awesome.

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    2. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cartoons that consist mostly of still images without much fluidity to them?

      Compared to the average Flash/CGI cartoons, yes.

    3. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cartoons that consist mostly of still images without much fluidity to them? The best? As for manga - well, they all too often tread way too close to gender abuse and paedophilia. To each his own, I guess.

      fembot detected, please purge

    4. Re:No way by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      It really isn't. Japan has something like a 99% conviction rate; the idea really is that if you were charged, you must be guilty. Or the police and prosecutors would lose face if you're found innocent.

      The Ace Attorney series was created as a take that (pun intended) against the horrors of the Japanese judicial system.

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    5. Re:No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tentacle porn. The Japanese literally invented it. It's there because it's illegal to show penetration of human on human, but an octopus? What could possibly be wrong with a giant cephalopod forcing a 6-foot tentacle into some woman's vagina?

      I, too, lived in Japan. There is nothing normal about their culture. The older Japanese, born prior to 1970, are mostly normal, honorable people. The younger ones can go either way depending on how hands on their parents were raising them.

      The Japanese have an unhealthy preoccupation with saving face or reciprocation. Giving a simple gift to a Japanese friend can begin a years' long back and forth unless YOU break the chain. Taking a friend out for a meal means you'll get it back and then you feel like you must reciprocate. Lather, rinse, repeat. Gift in the form of "four" anything is verboten. Four is a homonym for death in Japan and is avoided.

      There is virtually no crime committed by everyday people. I've left my car window down with change visible in the console, packs of cigarettes visible, CDs, leather jacket. Nothing taken, ever, even parked in downtown areas. You could do that in no US city. The feral white trash or negroes would have picked the car clean withing 5 minutes of walking away.

      Japanese women are very sweet, yet very gullible. As I consider myself a gentleman, I never took advantage of them in any way. I play fair and expect fair. I dated two Japanese women over a three-year period. They treat their men with the utmost respect. Lads... nothing beats a shave on a Saturday morning with a hot towel and a straight razor (female barber girlfriend).

      Great country. Would love to live there again, but perhaps not coastal next time. Yamaguchi, perhaps. IT work in Japan is very rewarding and you're treated like a rock star.

    6. Re: No way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That conviction rate is based on confessions by the individual that was arrested, and not the evidence used to arrest the individual.

    7. Re:No way by inking · · Score: 1

      >Japanese smoke everywhere. This was not a problem for me, a smoker.

      No, they do not. The locals are more private about smoking here than most people are about going to the toilet. What are you talking about?

    8. Re:No way by inking · · Score: 1

      It is awesome. Japan has one of the lowest mortality rate in car accidents in the world despite nobody wearing seatbelts in the back. (May be somewhat related to the low speed limits though.)

  14. Un-Sustainable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How long can these "lies" go on?

    When the fake father/actor gets married, won't his wife/children insist he spends family time with them and not with his fake daughters?

    If the mother dies in a car accident, does the will pay the fake father/actor to be there to comfort the daughter?

    When the father/actor dies, is his daughter going to his funeral?

    What if two customers exchange pictures of their fake fathers and discover they're fake-related?

    What if the fake-father is dating a single mom with a kid at the customer's daughter's college?

    EEEEK!!!!

    1. Re: Un-Sustainable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, this guy seems more dedicated to his "daughter" than a good number of real dads I know.

      You can never understand another country without living in it for awhile.

  15. Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it just me, or would renting your own friends/people to pretend to be part of your life make you feel worse? Then again, Iâ(TM)ve never understood prostitution either- how empty does your life have to be to pay for either lovers or friends?

  16. Hollywood Movie Coming Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But is it a tragedy, a comedy or both? The first movie about the subject will probably be a comedy. Then comes the tragedy. After that, the sci-fi version with androids, robots or mono-gendered blue persons with curvy bodies and hair-tentacles. I would watch that.

  17. Re:This is retarded. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    People in fake realities shouldn't throw stones. Your space is fake. Your Earth is flat.

  18. Hm.. by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    ...Just when I think we've reached the limits of how crazy fucked-up the Japanese can be, they show me I'm wrong.

    Keep shining, you crazy Japanese.

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    1. Re:Hm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... here in America we would never pay for friends...

    2. Re:Hm.. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ...Just when I think we've reached the limits of how crazy fucked-up the Japanese can be, they show me I'm wrong.

      On the other hand, they don't seem to be spending any time shooting people at music festivals, churches or schools every other week.

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    3. Re: Hm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least those friends come with benefits ;) if only for a short while.

    4. Re:Hm.. by Falos · · Score: 1

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    5. Re:Hm.. by Megol · · Score: 1

      Yeah but is that because they don't have access to weapons or because it is against their culture?

      I admit I'm trolling. Still relevant.

    6. Re:Hm.. by stabiesoft · · Score: 2

      Real gun control in Japan. I worked at a company that would have Japanese clients from time to time. One of their favorite requests was to go shooting at a range. We had an AE that spoke Japanese that would take them.

    7. Re:Hm.. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Yeah but is that because they don't have access to weapons or because it is against their culture?

      I admit I'm trolling. Still relevant.

      Your question doesn't seem like a troll - though I'm sure some moderators here would (someone modded me Flame-bait for this joke) - and I'd be curious about the availability vs. culture thing too.

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    8. Re:Hm.. by steveha · · Score: 5, Interesting

      [the Japanese] don't seem to be spending any time shooting people at music festivals, churches or schools every other week.

      I'm not sure if you are trolling but I think this is in fact a valid point, and it's one of the reasons why I and others are opposed to banning firearms.

      I recommend a book called The Samurai, the Mountie, and the Cowboy which analyzes gun control and gun violence in Japan, Canada, and the USA. The conclusion of the book: gun misuse is overwhelmingly a cultural thing. Japan may have gun control laws, but it's not the laws that keeps gun violence low there, it's the culture.

      I believe that even if the USA adopted the exact same laws that Japan has, gun violence in the USA wouldn't change very much. Changing the culture is much harder but also much more likely to have an effect.

      BTW Japan has a whole lot of suicides. Someone who is really super upset there is more likely to kill himself rather than trying to kill a bunch of others.

      P.S. Mass murder events do happen in Japan: http://time.com/4423216/mass-killings-japan-tsukui/

      Japan doesn't have as many as the USA. Japan has a smaller population, so one would expect fewer events, but even after adjusting for population it's less. However, it's not zero.

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    9. Re:Hm.. by dfenstrate · · Score: 0

      ...Just when I think we've reached the limits of how crazy fucked-up the Japanese can be, they show me I'm wrong.

      On the other hand, they don't seem to be spending any time shooting people at music festivals, churches or schools every other week.

      In the US, Democrats shoot people, and then other Democrats demand us decent folk surrender our weapons.... that we need to defend ourselves from Democrats!

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    10. Re:Hm.. by citylivin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I believe that even if the USA adopted the exact same laws that Japan has, gun violence in the USA wouldn't change very much."

      Then you are a fool. As a canadian, I've been in physical encounters with people where they have drawn weapons. If I or they had a gun instead of a knife, things would have ended much worse for someone.

      It is nearly impossible to get a legal handgun in canada. Most guns used in crimes are smuggled from the USA at extreme risk. And if you carry it around and someone sees that, you are going to jail.

      Like it or not, if you want to change the culture of gun violence in the USA, you have to start by restricting gun sales. That means depriving people of owning guns that are not meant for hunting. All automatic weapons, all hand guns, and probably more types too (i am not an expert on guns, nor would i care to be). It means getting people to give up the "personal self defence" aspect of gun ownership. I doubt anyone has guns for that purpose in canada, simply because they are so restricted with how you can transport them and use them, any situation where you would need to have the gun "at the ready" for defence, simply wouldn't be possible.

      So i would argue that you have no idea about canadian gun laws and how they are influencing society. The laws shape the culture. I'm not sure how you could possibly miss that fundamental point. When americans say that the government can't take away their guns, that statement is clearly part law and part culture. Change the laws and you would change the culture, for sure.

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    11. Re:Hm.. by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      > I doubt anyone has guns for that purpose in canada, simply because they are so restricted with how you can transport them and use them, any situation where you would need to have the gun "at the ready" for defence, simply wouldn't be possible.

      Weapons and ammunition in separate locked gun safes, I believe. It's been a long time and I never kept a gun at home, so I'm not the best resource for that information.

      On the other hand, all sorts of medieval weapons are perfectly legal and I have a few on my walls. Even so, home invaders would likely have guns and I'm not trained for such situations anyway, so chances are I'd end up dead.

      Luckily... it's CANADA, and as a general rule unless you are involved in crime or have a stalker ex (or you're a cop at work, I suppose), statistically you don't really have to worry about violent crime in most places.

    12. Re:Hm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're are blinded by your own ignorance. Guess where the vast majority of the guns in the US are? The rural population and wider suburbs. Where is the vast majority of gun crime? The inner cities. Almost specifically, the hard left leaning cities were it is near impossible to legally own and carry a firearm. Think Chicago (ridiculously like a war zone at times) and Detroit. That flies in the face of your faux idealism.

      You are also quite wrong that limiting legal guns will do anything about the illegal ones. Guess what? There are two of the largest undefended borders in the world right here in the US. Porous as can be. If you can't keep illegal guns out of one CITY, how will you do it for an entire country? As mentioned by many before me, criminals will not care if guns are illegal. They will still have just as many, if not more because you will then be making many formerly law abiding citizens criminals just because they don't want to give up their 2nd Amendment rights.

      If you ever lived in the country for more than a week you might understand a little bit more about the US. It is not made up of cities which get most of the attention. It's vast tracts of land and thousands of communities and small towns with a few large cities scattered in between.

      What is one of the biggest (but true) stereotypes of the second World War? The farm boy being drafted but being a crack shot when he gets there. Not forgetting their experience with tractors giving them a leg up when it came time to repair their jeeps and tanks. Most of the Germans would just up and leave a tank when it broke down (if they couldn't destroy it outright). The american farmboys and their buddies they served with who learned from them, would just fix them up and take them right along with them.

    13. Re:Hm.. by steveha · · Score: 3, Informative

      Then you are a fool. As a canadian, I've been in physical encounters with people where they have drawn weapons. If I or they had a gun instead of a knife, things would have ended much worse for someone.

      Okay, here's a thought experiment for you. What if we took an area where it was not generally legal to carry a pistol, and changed the laws so that it became generally legal to carry a pistol? Would violence go up, go down, stay the same? By your argument, it should go up.

      Well, the experiment has been tried, and violence was observed to go down.

      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/14/murder-rates-drop-as-concealed-carry-permits-soar-/

      Does this prove that legalizing concealed carry causes violent crime rates to drop? No, because correlation does not prove causation. However, if your argument were valid, concealed carry would cause an increase in violence, and this data clearly contradicts this proposition.

      So, you were rude to me, and you offered your own opinion as if it were fact, and the facts don't agree with your opinion.

      Most guns used in crimes are smuggled from the USA at extreme risk.

      It's not legal to possess crack cocaine anywhere in the USA. Yet crack addicts buy it everywhere all the time. So I'm not sure what your point is... if your argument is that the laws in Canada keep criminals from getting firearms, could you please explain how the crack addicts get crack?

      For that matter, since it's against the law to commit murder, why do murders still occur?

      The laws shape the culture.

      That's an interesting idea but I notice you didn't support it with any kind of references or statistics or anything. I'll grant that laws can exert some kind of influence on culture but I reject the idea that government has the power to directly shape culture, that if it could just pass the right laws human nature could change. I disagree with you on this point, but I won't insult you.

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    14. Re: Hm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's easy. First we build a beautiful wall. Then when the darkies can't get in with their drugs and guns and rapists and some, I assume housekeepers, then we can take the guns from the darkies first. Then the tornadoes and hurricanes will make it so white trash can be disarmed to get benefits.

      Finally drones can spray everything with molten gold killing anyone that hasn't built up an immunity to spray on bronzer. Thus solving the problem.

    15. Re:Hm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will not find data to support that lie. You can fuck right off.

    16. Re:Hm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Change the laws and you would change the culture, for sure.

      Americans are afraid because it is a culture that creates fear.

    17. Re:Hm.. by LeftCoastThinker · · Score: 1

      Fortunately for us in the USA, we have a constitution that prevents gun grabbers like you from trying to take our guns (and we actually own guns, so even if you abrogate the constitution, you are still stuck trying to confiscate 300,000,000 guns from 50,000,000 gun owners who will fight you if you try confiscation by force.)

      In the US, your odds of dying in a mass shooting are minuscule, less than 100 fatalities a year https://thesocietypages.org/so... out of 340,000,000 people. It is sensational and tragic, but dogs and bees combined kill about the same number of people each year. https://www.washingtonpost.com... no one is screaming to ban dog ownership or demanding bee licenses. Your odds of dying from medical mistake (500,000 deaths per year) are orders of magnitude higher. Gun murder rates in most of the US (outside of certain inner cities dominated by minorities) are on par with murder rates in Canada and Northern Europe, and unlike those places, we have the option and capability of defending ourselves. OTOH guns save hundreds of lives every day, usually just with defensive warnings or defensive brandishing, which is enough to deter most assaults, rapes and muggings. Further, our democracy is protected by gun ownership. All the disarmed countries are one charismatic leader away from another Nazi Germany. And there is nothing they can do to stop it if it happens, no fundamental backstop to tyranny of their own government...

      The truth about freedom is that there is a cost. As a US citizen, I say 100 deaths per year is reasonable in a country of 340,000,000, If there were more law abiding citizens with concealed carry, the country would be even safer. If you are afraid of guns and a gun grabber, you might want to educate yourself on actual facts instead of the spoon fed propaganda you have been force fed for years. Try something like https://www.amazon.com/More-Gu... sorry, it is a "chapter book" that requires at least 3rd grade reading comprehension.

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    18. Re:Hm.. by pots · · Score: 1

      Does this prove that legalizing concealed carry causes violent crime rates to drop? No, because correlation does not prove causation.

      That stupid article doesn't even prove correlation. Here is a graph of the homicide rate in DC since 1950. Handguns were banned in 1977 and reintroduced in 2007. Neither of those dates is significant on that graph.

      How you interpret that lack of correlation, with no other supporting evidence, is more likely to be dependent on your own opinions than on anything substantial. You might say, "Look, see? Guns don't matter, so we shouldn't ban them." or, "Look, see? Banning guns in one tiny region that's surrounded by gun-permissive regions doesn't accomplish anything. So we need to ban them nation-wide." or, "Look, see? Writing an article about a single point of data is really dumb. Why are you reading the Washington Times anyway? You made that Washington/New York mistake again, didn't you? Repeat after me: the Washington Post and the New York Times are legitimate newspapers. The Washington Times and the New York Post are schlock."

    19. Re:Hm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The claim was that the presence of guns makes crime go up. Oh look, more people carrying guns and crime went down rather than up.

      So, now see if you can follow me here. The theory is that guns cause crime. Then there were more guns, and less crime. That means the facts didn't support the theory. Myth busted.

      You don't like that reference, look up what happened when Florida started allowing concealed carry. Anti-gun people wailed that the streets would run red with blood, that minor traffic accidents would end in shootouts, etc. None of it came true, and crime went down.

      You don't like Florida, look up Oregon or Washington state. Or look at your own graph: increased availability of firearms didn't correlate with violence. I'm not aware of any place in the USA that started allowing concealed carry and then had crime go up right afterwards. If you know of one, be sure to tell us all.

    20. Re:Hm.. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      "I believe that even if the USA adopted the exact same laws that Japan has, gun violence in the USA wouldn't change very much."

      Then you are a fool. As a canadian, I've been in physical encounters with people where they have drawn weapons. If I or they had a gun instead of a knife, things would have ended much worse for someone.

      It is nearly impossible to get a legal handgun in canada. Most guns used in crimes are smuggled from the USA at extreme risk. And if you carry it around and someone sees that, you are going to jail.

      Like it or not, if you want to change the culture of gun violence in the USA, you have to start by restricting gun sales. That means depriving people of owning guns that are not meant for hunting. All automatic weapons, all hand guns, and probably more types too (i am not an expert on guns, nor would i care to be). It means getting people to give up the "personal self defence" aspect of gun ownership. I doubt anyone has guns for that purpose in canada, simply because they are so restricted with how you can transport them and use them, any situation where you would need to have the gun "at the ready" for defence, simply wouldn't be possible.

      So i would argue that you have no idea about canadian gun laws and how they are influencing society. The laws shape the culture. I'm not sure how you could possibly miss that fundamental point. When americans say that the government can't take away their guns, that statement is clearly part law and part culture. Change the laws and you would change the culture, for sure.

      The US needs to change its thinking on guns. Once this happens, gun control becomes a natural part of the process, it is not the start or even the end of the process of reducing firearm violence.

      In Europe, even in nations that have high firearm ownership fatalities are rare, even accidental fatalities. This is because people treat their weapons as a responsibility, not as a toy or penis extension. A gun is a dangerous object that must be handled with care and if handled with due care, is not a significant danger. If this attitude were to be adopted en masse by Americans, we'd see a massive drop in firearm related fatalities. There would also be gun control, but again this would be a natural result of the attitude change, not the cause of it.

      However you'll have a hard time trying to get the Americans to change their minds, no matter how many lives are lost.

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    21. Re:Hm.. by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      I believe that even if the USA adopted the exact same laws that Japan has, gun violence in the USA wouldn't change very much. Changing the culture is much harder but also much more likely to have an effect.

      You almost got it but not quite. If anything, because anti-gun people will especially drive it home, more restrictive gun laws do cause a sizable decrease in gun violence. What doesn't change is violence in general. Gun related homicides will be cut in half, however total homicides per capita will not. Actually, they usually drop the year of increased gun laws, and then go up. Then bob around a bit and follow the generally trends so it's hard to tell if they are having any effect at all. "Mass shootings" typically aren't statistically meaningful to such data. Sure, it might stop 50 people from being killed all at once in a year, but if the increase in actual deaths increases because a fraction of a percent, those saved are meaningless in light of many more being killed. It does however, allow people to feel good about themselves and think they did something with a simple solution, rather than deal with the much tougher solution of actually changing our murderous culture and actually saving total lives.

    22. Re:Hm.. by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      "I believe that even if the USA adopted the exact same laws that Japan has, gun violence in the USA wouldn't change very much."

      Then you are a fool. As a canadian, I've been in physical encounters with people where they have drawn weapons. If I or they had a gun instead of a knife, things would have ended much worse for someone.

      Generally, things end up worse if people have knives because others will argue with a knife, and usually get themselves just as hurt or dead as if getting shot. Whereas, most people don't argue with a gun. Truth is, more gun laws do lessen gun violence, but do not lessen violence, including homicides per capita. Most murders are people against friends an family and it doesn't seem that being forced to change methods actually affects the outcome in lethalness once they have decided to kill you.

  19. But how is this different? by bradley13 · · Score: 1

    Serious question, especially for the author of the parent comment, since he understand Japan so well: how is the service in TFA different from an escort service?

    If you pay someone to be a father, for the life, that includes some serious commitment. Next to that, paying a woman to be your girlfriend for a night or a weekend pales to insignificance.

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    1. Re: But how is this different? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serious question, especially for the author of the parent comment, since he understand Japan so well: how is the service in TFA different from an escort service?

      Well, for most people, they don't have sex with their father. Sorry for your past. For a small fee one can pose as your father and apologize.

      if you don't mean "escort" and if you refer to regular escort services like body guards, tour guide and the related legal trades, there ie no difference.

  20. We have a thriving rent-a-friend business too by Humbubba · · Score: 1

    Ours are euphemistically called escort services.

    1. Re:We have a thriving rent-a-friend business too by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The ones you can afford euphemistically call themselves escorts, the ones that work for legit escort agencies are actually escorts and do the job in the summary! The most often case isn't impersonating a family member, but impersonating a real date. Usually for a business function.

    2. Re:We have a thriving rent-a-friend business too by Humbubba · · Score: 1
      I've known a few escorts. They were, without a doubt, both impersonating a date at social and business functions, and preforming sexual services. This stuff is well known. Go to "Escort Agency" at Wikipedia, and they lay it bare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escort_agency.

      Nevertheless, your point is taken, especially now that the up-and-up Japanese juggernaut, RentAFriend.com, is servicing the US too.

  21. That's nothing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For years, Hollywood has been hiring friends and relatives to impersonate actors.

  22. inflatable friends by swell · · Score: 1

    Where I live we have inflatable 'friends' for various purposes, not the least of which is to sit in the passenger seat while driving in the fast 'ride share' lane.

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    1. Re:inflatable friends by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Where I live these morons get their face on the evening news and then get fired from their jobs.

    2. Re:inflatable friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus! Just get a speedpass...

  23. It's also evidence of a _lot_ of unemployed by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    I remember reading that in the Gilded Age everybody who wasn't destitute had multiple servants because it was so cheap to them. Lots of folks looking for any work they can get their hands on.

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    1. Re:It's also evidence of a _lot_ of unemployed by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      If that many people are "destitute," you might want to ask yourself why you excluded them from you calculation of who "everybody" is?

    2. Re:It's also evidence of a _lot_ of unemployed by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      Because nobody's really destitute... at least nobody important.

      As you imply, it's important to remember we all have the instinct to overlook or discount those below us in the social order... and not do so.

    3. Re:It's also evidence of a _lot_ of unemployed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The important thing to understand is that even servants had servants. Rather than a "servant class", there was a hierarchy of servant classes.

      For example, your butler may have had his own cook and maid who served him, not you. And his cook probably had his own maid!

      dom

  24. Not in the US by QuadEddie · · Score: 1

    Interesting thing about the US is that the mother would be due child support from the actor. Someone doesnâ(TM)t have to be biological, married or even adopt the kid to be nailed with the judgement. If the court sees a father figure in the kids life, thatâ(TM)s all that is required (see: judgements against non-biological ex-boyfriends)

    1. Re:Not in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I googled you suggestion and other variants and could find no evidence that any non-biological ex-boyfriends in the US had to pay child support. There were references to visitation rites, but i coudn't find anything about child support. I'm not saying my 10 minutes of research on Google means its never happened, but it is likely extremely rare if even true. So you have anything to backup your claim?

    2. Re:Not in the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not who you are replying to, but what about something like this?

      It's not exactly the same, but very similar: non-biological parent forced to pay support for a child which isn't his. I found a bunch of other very similar cases, usually involving fraud from the biological mother in labelling a guy as a the father when he was not, and then that guy being compelled to provide for the child if he had already been acting as the father.

      Also wikipedia says: In most jurisdictions the courts can declare the male who acts as the child's father to be the father through the equitable operation of an estoppel.

      It seems like it does happen, sometimes.

  25. How much? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    I wonder how much that 12-year old paid to rent a father, because, 12-year olds don't really have a lot of money.

  26. Re:wow-Klingons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always felt the Klingons would be a good model for a human society.

  27. Watch the movie before judging.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rent-a-Friend a Dutch invention?
    The dutch movie 'Rent-a-Friend' from the year 2000 already had the exact same premise.
    Rent-A-Friend the movie
    "He starts a company called Rent a Friend and rents himself out as a friend to those in need of one. The concept is so successful that he soon is running a veritable "friends empire". "

  28. A source of jobs in a post-scarcity economy? by ErichTheRed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm no expert on Japanese culture, but the glimpses Westerners get to see are...quite interesting. Between this and robotic female companions going semi-mainstream, it seems like there may be a couple of social screws that need tightening. I wonder if selling human interactions, beyond the obvious oldest profession, will be a thing when people don't have manual labor to fall back on.

    In my opinion, and it's just an opinion, this is what happens when you have a culture where high achievement is celebrated, but not everyone gets to participate fully. You're just expected to have an outward appearance of success, and I can imagine that can be hard for someone who really isn't meeting expectations. I've heard of this among Ivy League college students...they act like nothing fazes them even if they're struggling like mad to keep up with their peers. The ones who were the smartest kids in their high school get dropped into an environment where _everyone_ is either the smartest or most well-connected kid in their peer group.

    I read about an interesting trait of Japanese society...that of lifetime employment. Apparently, large corporations only hire new graduates and if you miss out on it, you never get another chance because they do not hire experienced employees. Talk about having to keep up appearances...imagine not meshing with the crowd for whatever reason and ending up working in a convenience store the rest of your life even if you were an engineering student.

    1. Re:A source of jobs in a post-scarcity economy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apparently, large corporations only hire new graduates and if you miss out on it, you never get another chance because they do not hire experienced employees. Talk about having to keep up appearances...imagine not meshing with the crowd for whatever reason and ending up working in a convenience store the rest of your life even if you were an engineering student.

      You mean, exactly like the American tech industry which only hires new graduates, only promotes laterally, and refuses to hire anyone over 30.

      Imagine ending up homeless at 31 and starving to death in an American gutter because you were a computer science student.

      If you think America is any better than Japan, you have a screw loose in your head.

    2. Re:A source of jobs in a post-scarcity economy? by ErichTheRed · · Score: 1

      "You mean, exactly like the American tech industry which only hires new graduates, only promotes laterally, and refuses to hire anyone over 30."

      I certainly don't disagree that this is a problem in the US also, but managed to keep some employers interested in me past 40. It's not as easy as if I was just graduating, but my point was that a system where NO employer will touch you must lead to some difficult situations...such as doing anything the company asks to avoid getting fired, or ending up permanently disqualified from certain jobs or industries just because you didn't make the cut at graduation, or having to do something like hiring someone to be your partner to impress your boss.

      The ageism in technology does have to stop, but I don't really think I want to go work at a web startup and work 100 hour weeks anyway...and I certainly wouldn't want to work anywhere that had a preconceived notion that I was "too old" and therefore the first to go when things got bad. My opinion is that things will improve once the startups' millennial "executives" find a life outside of work and suddenly realize why their older engineers have to disappear in the middle of the day for school things or to tend to a sick kid. Either that, or it'll get worse and the vocally anti-work/life balance crowd will make things bad for everyone. (It still amazes me how many people will defend a bad employer to the death...it seems to take everyone one or two bad jobs to figure this out.)

    3. Re:A source of jobs in a post-scarcity economy? by Khashishi · · Score: 1

      hence, karoshi

    4. Re:A source of jobs in a post-scarcity economy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another thing that might tip the balance could be the baby boomers retiring out of management. My wife works in a group whose VP is quite traditional and about to retire. Back in his day, women didn't work outside the home for the most part and his attitude towards flexibility shows this. Other women she works with have been told to hire a nanny when they've asked for more flexible work arrangements, for example.

      It's a sandwich-type problem...you have the older VPs of the world assuming that their employees' needs are being taken care of by staff or a stay at home parent, and the younger hard-charging managers who assume that anyone who isn't willing to give their entire life over to the company is a slacker. Why do you think all those SV companies give their employees 3 meals a day, concierge services, and very dorm-like office space? They want them there for as long as they can keep them.

    5. Re:A source of jobs in a post-scarcity economy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it seems like there may be a couple of social screws that need tightening.

      What I have understood about the Japanese culture, the social screws are little (much) too tight rather than loose..

    6. Re:A source of jobs in a post-scarcity economy? by slew · · Score: 2

      Interestingly, you see it as some thing born out of modern society, but I see this whole thing as a modernization of the Geisha concept from Japanese history.

      FWIW, originally Geisha were MEN, it was only later that the profession became dominated by women. Also despite common misconceptions being a Geisha isn't about being a prostitute or even an escort**, but a Geisha is considered an entertainer (focused on music and engaging conversation, not sex although that is not unheard of) who is professionally trains for it from a young age.

      This "modernization" of the Geisha concept probably reflects a lot that has changed about society. Historically Geisha would only take on professional clients, who would want experience some refined entertainment in a personal context. Now people are more extroverted and casual and strangely things have evolved to cater to their desires. Such is the way of the world.

      **Some prostitutes or escorts in japan may call themselves "Geisha", but that's not what Geisha are...

  29. Mrs. Doubtfire moment waiting to happen by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What happens when he has a scheduling conflict between two roles he has to play?

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    1. Re:Mrs. Doubtfire moment waiting to happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He sends another actor along with their head covered in bandages from a motorcycle accident which has also left him unable to talk.

  30. Many modern societies aren't too different by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even though this is certainly an extreme example (at least for me, not sure in Japan), lack of attachment to others and fake appearances are surprisingly common in most of societies. Internet and the way in which things like "social" media have evolved is a good reflection of that reality. Lots of people are not interested in actually knowing others, but only in blindly following trends, getting temporary certainty via poor information about everyone, having a high number of likes, friends, references, showing that they are happy/sad/angry, etc. Similar ideas apply to the real-life routines of many people, who are so scared of really giving and getting something (and, consequently, potentially losing/being hurt) that prefer to be systematically involved in meaningless relationships with others.

    Some people might consider me some kind of hermit since some time ago, a person not able to enjoy the small pleasures of life or others' companion. This isn't true. The reality is that I am only interested in getting involved in somehow meaningful relationships, but most of people are not. Should I join the big circus of hypocrisy, meaning-nothing conventions, playing-very-safe-and-as-instructed and lies to eventually find just one worthy person? No, thanks. I did that in the past and know where it ends: tolerating more lies, hypocrisy, in-case-of-doubt attacks, unreasonable prejudices, etc. From my current position, I don't see a big difference between this article and what happens almost everywhere: people living to show and to do/be scared/angry/happy/etc. as instructed by whatever trend or convention, rather than really having/enjoying/experiencing. I don't even find any of this sad anymore.

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    1. Re:Many modern societies aren't too different by bradley13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The thing is: developing actual, meaningful relationships requires going through a lot of superficial crap. You don't know in advance which people you are going to be able to relate to, so you sample around, and you first meet lots and lots of people who don't work out for you. If you don't go to that trouble, just how are you supposed to magically meet the rare person you actually hit it off with?

      Now, you may say "it's not worth it". And who would I be to disagree? I make about 1 good friend every 20 years, because I mostly can't be bothered to socialize. But be aware that this is the price you pay for being a "hermit".

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    2. Re: Many modern societies aren't too different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoken like a big-city kid. Small town, it's not hard to meet friends cause friends are who you meet.

    3. Re:Many modern societies aren't too different by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      developing actual, meaningful relationships requires going through a lot of superficial crap.

      Why? You will have never to pass through anything of that with me. I have met quite a few people in my life (who, unfortunately for me, I wasn't able to properly appreciate at that time) who could also skip most of that. You don't seem to like it either, why do you think that it is a requirement for you or for others? That kind of speech is part of the problem which has made me stop tolerating certain attitudes: many people feel forced to do, think, feel whatever (+ try to force others or rely on their fanatic fears to attack anyone behaving differently), but strictly speaking there is no reason for that.

      You don't know in advance which people you are going to be able to relate to, so you sample around, and you first meet lots and lots of people who don't work out for you

      Perhaps I wasn't able in the past, but now I clearly know what I want. I can spot people with clear enough ideas and appealing-to-me personalities almost immediately; unfortunately, not everyone seems to be able to do the same. And you certainly need time to know others and I personally need a lot of it, but this is actually a good reason for not wasting that time with irrelevant nonsense. I am not against meeting people and getting to know them gradually, but against tolerating useless, superficial, meaningless whatever whose only contribution is to just waste time, repeating because of not knowing anything better. If I can choose, and certainly can, I prefer to be by my own than to interact with people delivering so empty outputs. Unfortunately for me, the number of these people or, at least, the number of people like you, thinking that this is a forced requirement, is too high and that's why my current hermit-like behaviour.

      Now, you may say "it's not worth it". And who would I be to disagree? I make about 1 good friend every 20 years, because I mostly can't be bothered to socialize. But be aware that this is the price you pay for being a "hermit".

      But what is the exact point of having many not-good friends? Dealing with people who you don't fully trust or you don't fully like and to whom you are sporadically or systematically lying by showing otherwise, why doing such a thing? Out of fear? Because you don't want to be called things, like that AC above calling me unabomber (+ including a smiley; although not sure what to think about that -> see? this is what hypocrite, coward and dishonest interactions provoke), just because of openly saying that I don't like hypocrisy and that I am not socialising too much lately? This is a good sample of the kind of "society" with which I don't want to deal and whose fears and random misinterpretations I will not tolerate.

      Theoretically, friends are supposed to give you something positive, not to represent an additional burden ("ah! Now, I have to talk to this guy, who is a completely asshole! I hate my life!"... "Hi, Matt! I was looking forward to talk to you again!"). Do you prefer to be 20 years lying and being lied, being part of irrelevant-to-you crap, feeling uncomfortable around these people and never saying anything (+ thinking that they feel the same), just for the far promise of perhaps eventually finding one person? And why not trying to find that one person right away, via immediately dismissing all the bad candidates? You can know people for many years without being friends and, gradually, convert that relationship into a true friendship. I don't see the requirement of all the hypocrisy and dealing with people you don't like; at least, not for me. You might enjoy others' companion regardless of their quality and I am fine with it; but please don't say that this is a requirement or try to impose your views on me.

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  31. Your Fake Coworker by FairAndUnbalanced · · Score: 2

    I'm pretty sure I've been doing some of these roles for free. Time to start charging.

  32. Rent a girlfriend "actress" overnight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just curious...

    Can a guy "rent" a girlfriend to spend the night? LOL!!!!

    That would be a unique way to disguise the oldest profession in the world....!

  33. Re:This is retarded. by gnick · · Score: 1

    Your space is fake.

    Myspace is real. It's just outdated.

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  34. "Real" father surrogates have been around forever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There can be no good coming from telling a child that a man who isn't her father *is* her father and it is expected to keep up the charade forever.

    The real problem here is that a child is being bullied for not having a father. Real fathers can get sick and die. Or killed in an accident. My father died much sooner than I would have liked and I still needed his guidance and advice. Other men stepped up and helped me. I didn't ask them they just did it.

    Japan. What a fucked up place. First, Tubgirl and hentai tentacle porn. Now this.

  35. Re:First by barbariccow · · Score: 0

    First

    And you've shared credit for this with everyone, by posting as AC! Aren't you a man/woman/otherwise of the people?

  36. Wish we had that here by barbariccow · · Score: 2

    Wish we had that here. Could finally have a reason to step out of my mother's basement!

    1. Re:Wish we had that here by snookiex · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, you just need to rent a house, not a father.

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    2. Re:Wish we had that here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rent's TOO DAMNED HIGH! Fathers are cheaper :D

  37. With benefits? by PPH · · Score: 1

    n/t

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  38. Are they crazy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They put up this guy's real name and picture on that article. How probable is it that none of that girl's friends ever read this and none of them ever tell her.

  39. It's a capitalist world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When everything can be obtained with money... even affection... specially affection.

  40. Hm..Cultured guns. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Chicken or egg? Which came first, the gun, or the culture?

  41. Many uni-bombers aren't too different. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You ARE a hermit. We've read your manifesto. :-)

    1. Re:Many uni-bombers aren't too different. by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      You ARE a hermit. We've read your manifesto. :-)

      LOL. Perhaps you are right. But I am a peaceful and live-and-let-live one and my situation doesn't come out of rejection (society seems to accept me pretty much; at least, the version it wants to see which I am not interested in showing), but out of not seeing what I like. Or, in other words, the only unabomber-like character in my case could be society (a group wanting to forcibly make me part of their circus?). So, I might be a properly-speaking hermit, but certainly not a violent version (= NOT unabomber).

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    2. Re:Many uni-bombers aren't too different. by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      a group wanting to forcibly make me part of their circus?

      I think that a better version would be: lying and coming up with ridiculous reasons explaining why I might not want to deal with them rather than actually trying to understand those reasons, even just listening/reading what I am expressly saying that I want, and becoming what I want or simply accepting my position. Actually, I have been sharing lots of information about myself lately in many places, my posts here among them; as a way to facilitate the understanding of my kind-of-heterodox expectations and to minimise everyone unnecessarily wasting time. The most ironic part is that that attitude seems to have provoked a relevant increase of pointless behaviours targeting me?! People not just not understanding what I am saying in its proper sense, but also coming up with the most ridiculous conclusions! Something like "you say that you are honest + I know that nobody is honest => I assume that you are double dishonest"!!

      All that crazily stupid evolution has further confirmed my hermit position. In fact, when I firstly started to wonder why I should tolerate hypocrisy and empty social interactions, I was kind of expecting to be proven wrong and people's behaviours to help me understand my error. But what I found was the definitive confirmation (not just once, many times) of something not being right with modern society's "social interactions"! Openly saying what you want being interpreted as right the contrary because of nobody-says-openly-what-they-want or I-feel-afraid-of-anyone-different-than-me kind of prejudices?! What I have been seeing lately is so unbelievable unrealistic that I could even say that have been harassed by an in-denial "society" wanting me to like it!

      "Unabomber" (well... it said "uni-bomber"! tiny prejudice/complex over there?) said the poor anonymous coward scared of a clearly-identified guy, being different than it but openly and reasonably explaining his position, what made it come up with the first random idea somehow justifying such a heresy (in fact, not even that: just a familiar category where my behaviour might be included)! Another kind-of-telling-a-lot issue is implying that I might have ever anything to do with weapons!! Only a person closely related to the use of force/weapons (police, military, hunter or similar) or coming from a weapon-friendly country like the USA can intuitively think that weapons (or other form of violence) are an immediate, intuitive, making-any-sense-at-all resource for a random person to deal with a random situation. I haven't ever had any kind of contact with weapons or thought about dealing with them! But it is kind of telling that someone might bring weapons/violence into picture from the "I don't like you and want to be alone" ideas underlying my original post! Is perhaps that AC reacting violently to people not liking it? Is this AC usually trying to force others to like it! So much irony! Anyway, I have preferred to further extend my not-too-descriptive first reaction to that AC nonsense.

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      Custom Solvers 2.0 = Alvaro Carballo Garcia = varocarbas.
  42. Liks a character in Skip Beat by doom · · Score: 1

    Funny, the manga Skip Beat has an actress working a job like this on the side, and I thought it was just a made-up occupation.

    (Of course, it'd be even funnier if the idea for the business came from reading Skip Beat.)

  43. Build A Robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am your father...
    I am your father...
    I am your father...

    The Japanese will be the first.

  44. HACKING ATM CARDS by braeckmans4 · · Score: 0

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  45. I just wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If 'daddy' also runs a night-shift version of his business, where he rents himself out to those same daughters as their 'daddy' for the night.

    Wouldn't that be some hilarious and sick grooming that you could also expect from the Japanese?

  46. Given the gulf between men and women in America... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would say it this could go over quite well here as well, except that most of the people who would want it don't have the money to afford it.

  47. Lie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A professional escort is not generally obligated to lie to others about who they are.

    Mine are. They are paid to say they are my Sexy Russian Body-Guards.

  48. In Japan Star Wggars. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Luke, I'm not your father". Noooooo!

  49. pathetic sjw take by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    entitled and isolated.... really?

    all cultures must fall to the sjw globlist agenda of deconstructing societies in favor of globalist mudh culture.

    slashdot is nothing but sjw propaganda for nerds

  50. Multiple reasons people pursue wealth by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    "The whole point of getting rich is to be able to stop working and enjoy your life properly. "

    For some, the issue of obtaining wealth is about *control* and not leisure. It can be about control of others (e.g. ordering around paid servant or perhaps influencing others in society via media or such). Or it can be about having control over what you can work on yourself (e.g. open source volunteerism).

    There are probably other reasons people pursue wealth or status -- including fear of poverty (e.g. perhaps someone being motivated to become US President after growing up in a broken home).

    --
    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  51. Job security by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

    He's got a job for life.