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Massive US Military Social Media Spying Archive Left Wide Open In AWS S3 Buckets (theregister.co.uk)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Register: Three misconfigured AWS S3 buckets have been discovered wide open on the public internet containing "dozens of terabytes" of social media posts and similar pages -- all scraped from around the world by the U.S. military to identify and profile persons of interest. The archives were found by veteran security breach hunter UpGuard's Chris Vickery during a routine scan of open Amazon-hosted data silos, and these ones weren't exactly hidden. The buckets were named centcom-backup, centcom-archive, and pacom-archive. CENTCOM is the common abbreviation for the U.S. Central Command, which controls army operations in the Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia. PACOM is the name for U.S. Pacific Command, covering the rest of southern Asia, China and Australasia.

"For the research I downloaded 400GB of samples but there were many terabytes of data up there," he said. "It's mainly compressed text files that can expand out by a factor of ten so there's dozens and dozens of terabytes out there and that's a conservative estimate." Just one of the buckets contained 1.8 billion social media posts automatically fetched over the past eight years up to today. It mainly contains postings made in central Asia, however Vickery noted that some of the material is taken from comments made by American citizens. The databases also reveal some interesting clues as to what this information is being used for. Documents make reference to the fact that the archive was collected as part of the U.S. government's Outpost program, which is a social media monitoring and influencing campaign designed to target overseas youths and steer them away from terrorism.

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  1. It was already public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Unless they're claiming these were private posts the spooks somehow hacked into, it's just another public copy of already public data.

    1. Re:It was already public by aliquis · · Score: 1

      The thing is the reason I "want to think it's ok to post in public" is because I don't think my government should spy on me. At all.

      Sure they may consider it useful but ..

      What if in the US rather than saying "Oh we must have access to anything which can be encrypted" they instead said "We won't use any information gathering even if it's un-encrypted and in the public, and we won't ask anyone else for it either and such information can't be used against anyone / usage of such information would automatically free the person it was used against in court "?

      The opposite direction.

  2. More Obama-era spying programs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Thanks Democrats for voting that clown in. He took the Bush-era surveillance and expanded it by leaps and bounds. It's time we appoint a special prosecutor and investigate all of the abuses of the Obama administration.

  3. Why use AWS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why doesn't the military store their own stuff?

    1. Re:Why use AWS? by DaHat · · Score: 4, Informative

      Same reason they don't build their own airplanes, ships, guns, etc...

    2. Re: Why use AWS? by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Reliance of Her Majesty the Queen and the British empire?

    3. Re:Why use AWS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Because it is more cost effective to have the private sector do it, as they can subsidize the cost of collection by selling the data onto other customers (marketing, foreign governments) rather than have the US army do it.

    4. Re:Why use AWS? by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      The US mil really likes its Military–industrial complex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–industrial_complex
      Think of a world that allowed to US mil to spend millions on its own internal, secure networks.
      Thats billions in build and long term support contracts lost to the shareholders and outside contractors.
      What the US mil could secure for millions has been given to contractors to look after for billions. That money is gone. The once very secret and secure US mil data is.... ????

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    5. Re:Why use AWS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All the best storage experts smoke pot so their services have to be bought from the private sector.

      I kid, I kid.

    6. Re:Why use AWS? by DivineKnight · · Score: 2

      Money? That and if this happened on a military install, they'd be sporting an even larger black eye than they currently have ("You trusted Amazon? What's wrong with you?" vs. "Our nation's elite military 'cyber-warriors' can't secure a simple database from opportunistic h@x0rs...how the hell are they going to protect us from {enemy}?"). The first one is a gaff, the second one is a congressional inquisition into 'what exactly do you do with all that money we give you.'

    7. Re:Why use AWS? by Solandri · · Score: 1

      There's a huge amount of inertia within the military (or government for that matter), which makes it really slow to adapt to and take advantage of changes. Technological progress is the very epitome of change, so the two make very poor bedfellows. It works much better if they simply hire someone to handle the technological part for them.

      In the mid-1990s my company was doing some ship model testing. We rented the tow tank at the U.S. Navy's David Taylor Research Center (now David Taylor Model Basin). One morning I arrived at the center and saw a bunch of what looked like washing machines piled up at the tow tank entrance. I asked our Navy guide what they were.

      "Hard drives"
      "Whoa. How old are they?"
      "I dunno, early '70s I think."
      "Wow. What's their capacity?
      "About 10 MB."
      "So they've been sitting in your warehouse all this time, and you finally decided to throw them out?"
      "Oh no, we were using them up til yesterday. Our requisition for new hard drives finally came through."
      "..."

      Not exactly the kind of organization you want building cutting-edge data storage solutions for themselves.

    8. Re:Why use AWS? by MartinG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's not a great comparison.

      Making their own planes and guns would be like making their own processors and hard drives. They would never do that.

      The question was more about why they store their data on somebody elses computers. This would be like keeping their guns in someone elses warehouse, where that somebody makes the keys and locks to that warehouse.

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    9. Re: Why use AWS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      His too stupid what?

  4. If it was on social media is it Public Domain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you can still claim copyright etc, it doesn't mean you can claim anything on social media is 'secret'. If so. this is nothing more than what every Sysadmin with half a brain has been saying... containers on machines you don't control are not secure.

  5. what is /. by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    does /. count as social media, antisocial media maybe ? Anyhow, did centcom scan slashdot ? Is centcom the new UI for slashdot ?

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  6. It's like I was telling them by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If it's in the cloud, even the secure cloud, it's open.

    You may not think it is, but it is.

    And, yes, other nations do - and will - have access to it.

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    1. Re:It's like I was telling them by edtice1559 · · Score: 2

      As opposed to where? Completely disconnected from the Internet? Because AWS ("the cloud") is certainly a better choice than something you have to secure yourself.

    2. Re:It's like I was telling them by dontbgay · · Score: 1

      Not if the safety and security of the nation's citizenry are put in jeopardy in the process. For the money the federal government spends on security, we're not getting a good return on investment

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    3. Re:It's like I was telling them by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      The US government is a huge, sprawling democracy. There are some networks that actually contain things vital to national security. Those are usually entirely air-gapped and secured by the best people that the government has. After that, we have every other government function from motor vehicle registrations to lame intelligence-gathering operations like this one. Those are *very* unlikely to have competent people working on them.

    4. Re:It's like I was telling them by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      I think you mean the US government is a huge, sprawling bureaucracy. Because if it were a "democracy" it wouldn't be possible for the person with fewer votes to win the election. But in 2016, "the loser won" (to quote the loser who won).

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    5. Re:It's like I was telling them by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      Yes, that is what I meant. Oops. Thanks.

  7. Unreasonable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Justice says it is only reasonable to have encryption if they can read it.

    It they can only protect it as well as this, reasonable is a sad story.

  8. Re:S3 buckets are locked down by default by guruevi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a) Amazon buckets didn't always come that way, it took some pressure for Amazon to accept that this was a poor default setting.
    b) In most of these cases, it's simply incompetence - I can't get OAuth to work, let's just set it to public and hope nobody guesses the bucket name.

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  9. Told someone today... by Chewbacon · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...as my company switches to AWS Workspaces, someone asked me what AWS is. I explained it and summarized: it's a very powerful and capable platform, yet its users are perfectly capable of powerfully shooting themselves in both feet.

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  10. The US military hackers show their competence once by aliquis · · Score: 1

    ... again.

    I'm sure Russia is super-scared.

    As for that guy who some day suggested that all other people was inferior: https://slashdot.org/comments....
    At-least those willing to relocate to the US.. Well.. I'm pretty sure some Russian and even North Korean computer users will know their shit and could had been interested in doing something in the US too.

  11. Re:But! by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    They have placed their human spies deep within the command and policy setting structures of the US and UK mil, governments.
    Why worry about "social media" when US and UK gov policy is been created by decades of well placed spies.
    Other nations don't worry about social media in the same way the USA wasted billions trying to "sway" people.
    "Social media" does not change a persons faith and what their faith will always command them to do.
    Smart nations, faiths, cults, criminals just line their spies up at UK and UK job fairs and recruiting efforts on university campuses.
    Over decades some move up to upper and middle management passing any efforts at detection by MI5, FBI.
    A polygraph investigation (the test is just color of law cover for the long term investigation) won't find a person who is not lying and has never been corrupt.
    Well placed spies then move to more trusted parts of the UK and UK mil thanks to changes in who needs to be added to the security services. Security is now second place to hiring lots of different people from all over the UK and USA with very different backgrounds. Other governments, cults, faith groups, criminal groups just line their clean, trusted spies up at jobs fairs and note who many of their best students get accepted every decade.
    In the past the US and UK really put some thought into getting trustworthy staff. Now its just about virtue signalling that all kinds of applicants are welcome.

    Social media spying is not that important for spying, other nations, cults, faiths, gangs, criminal groups have that covered with decades of their own people deep in the US, UK police, security services, special forces and mil.

    The other aspect other nations really like using US and UK social media is to find US and UK spies trying to pass as low level UK, USembassy workers in their own nations.
    The US and UK will often try and place advanced mil/university graduates with amazing "skills" in with their low ranking embassy staff.
    Other nations use years of collected and stored social media to track back over embassy workers education and work history.
    Private detectives and contractors who do complex background and reference checks will often be able to show when and how a persons social media was altered or created by US/UK clandestine services to create a fake history for a created embassy worker.
    Its hard to pass a created image of a person enjoying a party with no link to the US mil when private detectives have saved images of the same person in a different part of the USA in the mil years ago. Collect it all was low cost and a lot of early social media was saved in real time.

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  12. UK Parliamentary data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    UK Parliament moved their email and documents into the *Microsoft* cloud in Ireland......

    (From Snowden): CIA was/is spying on all its allies, and each day a brief on legislation was prepared for Bush (and later Obama) on who was considering what legislation. If it was bad for the USA, it could be headed off. The joke being that when allied leaders called the President he already knew the details of the legislation they were going to talk about, and already had lined up talking points and counter allies as leverage.

    So now all that cloud data is used to inform Donald Trump, his various business partners, and potentially (via the secure link Jared asked the Russians to provide) Trump's Russian friends too.

    It's quite staggering that GCHQ would permit the highest law making body in the land to put its data into a cloud they know they and NSA have access to. Exposing the law making process to known foreign surveillance. Theresa May complains of Putin's 100+ propaganda channels trying to stir up racism during the Brexit vote... yet Parliament are exposed to back channel orange.

    1. Re:UK Parliamentary data by chihowa · · Score: 1

      It's quite staggering that GCHQ would permit the highest law making body in the land to put its data into a cloud they know they and NSA have access to. Exposing the law making process to known foreign surveillance.

      Exposing the law making process to surveillance available to only a select few is not a bug, it's a feature .

      FTFY.

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  13. Re:S3 buckets are locked down by default by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    In most of these cases, it's simply incompetence - I can't get OAuth to work, let's just set it to public and hope nobody guesses the bucket name.

    I want to know how people guessed the bucket name: I'm impressed that they do.

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  14. Re:S3 buckets are locked down by default by DivineKnight · · Score: 1

    Well, let's start with the usual suspects. Did a contractor / employee have access to it, and, I don't know, have the WeatherBug application running in the background?

  15. Is it legal? by Max_W · · Score: 1

    I mean collecting billions of people's private posts and leave them open online.

  16. In other shocking news.... by DidgetMaster · · Score: 1

    ...the government was caught leaving copies of books it found in the public library in places where the public could see them! Seriously, this seems like a complete non-story if all the information in the S3 bucket was already public information. They just went out and gathered a bunch of stuff that you or I could already get by simply googling it and stored it in one place. Now if some of the information was not public already, then that is a different story...and would have been highlighted in this one if it really was the case.

  17. Factor of 10 compression? by ebyrob · · Score: 1

    GZIP is more like a factor of 3-4 times for text. The only way they could get a factor of 10 compression ratio would be if they were using something like PAQAR 4.5, which I kinda doubt...

  18. Re:MODERATORS ARE CENSORING POSTS by HiThere · · Score: 1

    A book about the Democratic party is pretty much guaranteed to be PR, either by a party supporter or by an opponent. In neither case should it be believed. Instead watch what it does and how it acts. The same is true for the other parties.

    A Democratic event is more revealing, but attending at more than a low level event requires approval by those higher up in the party. While there are obvious reasons why this is necessary, it mitigates against trusting what you see as being an accurate mirror of the intentions of those in control. So again, watch what it does and how it acts.

    And, of course, watching means that your reports come from trustworthy sources. So don't believe what you see reported easily. Require multiple sources with differing biases.

    Have you started to notice that this is a lot of work? That's why people usually pick someone they trust to form their opinions. Too bad people are so bad at picking trustworthy people.

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