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Russia Detects a Significant Radiation Spike In Mountains Close To Soviet-Era Nuclear Plant (nytimes.com)
According to a report via The New York Times, Russia said that it had detected a significant radiation spike in the Ural Mountains, close to a sprawling Soviet-era nuclear plant still remembered as the site of an accident 60 years ago. Russia did however reject suggestions that it was the source of a radioactive cloud that hovered over Europe. From the report: The location of the spike -- in the Chelyabinsk region near the border with Kazakhstan -- has been identified by French and German nuclear safety institutions as a potential source for a concentration of a radioactive isotope called ruthenium 106 detected in the air in late September above several European countries. But nuclear energy authorities in Moscow insisted Monday that still-higher levels of atmospheric contamination had been detected outside Russia, in southeastern Europe. Reports of the elevated radiation levels over Western Europe raised alarms, but nuclear safety authorities in France and Germany said there was no threat to human health or to the environment -- an assurance repeated on Tuesday by Moscow. The Russian state weather service Roshydromet said it had found what the Russian news media described as "extremely high pollution" at two monitoring facilities within a 62-mile radius of the Mayak nuclear reprocessing and isotope production plant. A weather station in the town of Argayash recorded ruthenium 106 levels that were 986 times higher than a month earlier, the state weather agency said. A second station at Novogorny detected levels 440 times higher. Ruthenium 106, which does not occur naturally and has a half-life of about a year, is used for medical purposes.
For weeks, Russian officials had denied the French and German accusations. Citing the results of its own air monitoring on European territory, Moscow pointed to high radiation levels over Romania, Italy and Ukraine, insisting that there had been only a negligible presence of ruthenium 106 on Russian territory. On Tuesday, even after the Russian agency acknowledged the radiation spike in the Urals, Maxim Yakovenko, the head of Roshydromet, said in a statement that higher levels of contamination had been detected in Romania than in Russia. "The published data is not sufficient to establish the location of the pollution source," he said. The authorities at Mayak denied in a news release on Tuesday that the plant had contributed to the increased levels of ruthenium 106 and insisted that there was no threat to human beings.
For weeks, Russian officials had denied the French and German accusations. Citing the results of its own air monitoring on European territory, Moscow pointed to high radiation levels over Romania, Italy and Ukraine, insisting that there had been only a negligible presence of ruthenium 106 on Russian territory. On Tuesday, even after the Russian agency acknowledged the radiation spike in the Urals, Maxim Yakovenko, the head of Roshydromet, said in a statement that higher levels of contamination had been detected in Romania than in Russia. "The published data is not sufficient to establish the location of the pollution source," he said. The authorities at Mayak denied in a news release on Tuesday that the plant had contributed to the increased levels of ruthenium 106 and insisted that there was no threat to human beings.
...is known as the "Mayak incident", or the "Kyshtym disaster". It is the third largest ever nuclear mishap (after Chernobyl and Fukushima).
It occurred in 1958 (I think), and it was not caused by a nuclear critical event, but rather "mundane" (but very large - equivalent of somewhere around 100 tonnes of TNT) chemical explosion within nuclear waste (mostly ammonium nitrates IIRC) which spread the waste over large distances. No one was directly killed by the event.
"Yes, we detected one of our radioactive clouds. It has nothing to do with you radioactive clouds. It is Russian."
For weeks, Russian officials had denied the French and German accusations
At this point, who the fuck cares what Russia says. The current Russian regime has lost all credibility.
1. Russia: "There are no Russian troops in Crimea"
One month later: Crimea is annexed by Russia
Russia: "Of course there were Russian troops in Crimea"
2. Russia: "The hundreds of trucks at the Ukrainian border are just delivering humanitarian supplies"
One month later: Ukrainian separatists fight back the Ukrainian government offensive which went pretty well up to that point.
3. Russia: "There are no Russian troops in eastern Ukraine. Only some guys on 'vacation' "
One month later: Russian soldiers boast about skirmishes with Ukrainian forces on social media. Mothers and wives of Russian soldiers demand answers from the Russian government on why so many sons and fathers die during 'training exercises'
4. Russia: "Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was not shot down by Ukrainian rebels using Russian supplied missiles"
Immediately thereafter: Separatist boasts on social media about shooting down Ukrainian airplane. Post quickly disappears. Photographic evidence and witnesses report of a Buk surface-to-air missile launcher being moved from eastern Ukraine into Russia.
5. Russia: "The Syrian army did not use chemical weapons against rebel positions"
UN investigation: missiles were launched during the time of the attack from Syrian army controlled territory. Russia uses UN security council veto 10 times to block further investigations.
6. Russia: "Our olympic athletes are not using illegal substances as this is rigorously controlled by our anti-doping-agency.
Independent Investigation: systematic state-sponsored doping of Russian athletes is uncovered. 19 national anti-doping organisations recommend suspending Russia from participation in all sports.
7. Russia: "We have photographic evidence that the US is supporting ISIS"
Immediately after: Media reveals that the evidence are screenshots of a video game.
Russia expects to be taken seriously about anything they have to say? Why?
Damn, 16 posts in and no snowflake's TDS has been triggered by the word 'Russia' yet? I must be the only american awake.
It seems that the Russians honestly don't have a clue what exactly happened.
https://www.rbc.ru/society/21/11/2017/5a142dfa9a794738d70d7ec7
usa legacy media now sees russia everywhere excuse/explanation is needed.
Did you sell your account to russian trolls, or have you always been a russian troll? That's a pretty low UID.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
It is funny that finding trace amounts of a radioactive material in the atmosphere is billed as a 'radioactive cloud' and results in so many alarmist articles. Meanwhile, all the truly dangerous crap being released into the atmosphere is everyday ho hum.
Once again, proof of media ignorance about radiation risk.
usa legacy media now sees russia everywhere excuse/explanation is needed.
Did you sell your account to russian trolls, or have you always been a russian troll? That's a pretty low UID.
Just know this: Chernnbyl happened, and O'Bama stood by and did nothing.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I hope you just don't understand the idiocy you are spouting, because https://www.lenntech.com/perio...
"All ruthenium compounds should be regarded as highly toxic and as carcinogenic. Compounds of ruthenium stain the skin very strongly. It seems that ingested ruthenium is retained strongly in bones. Ruthenium oxide, RuO4, is highly toxic and volatile, and to be avoided."
Then the very next paragraph "Rhutenium 106 is one of the radionuclides involved in atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons, which began in 1945, with a US test, and ended in 1980 with a Chinese test. It is among the long-lived radionuclides that have produced and will continue to produce increased cancers risk for decades and centuries to come."
It wasn't us, pinky swear!!!
The toxicity has zero to do with the radioactivity.
Ruthenium is used in some thin film solar cells. People working with it are exposed to trace levels of it, much greater than anyone in the path of this 'cloud'. Why does THAT not scare you so much?
You know what you should be scared of. Its a chemical you are exposed to at 1000 times normal levels when you are near automotive traffic or gas stations. It causes various forms of cancer, can cause birth defects, convulsions, and various other things. Why are there no headlines about BENZENE!!!!!!
Just know this: Chernnbyl happened, and O'Bama stood by and did nothing.
Forget that, what about the emails?!1!?1?1?!!/1/11?1?!!?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Did you miss the part about being absorbed into bones like Strontium 90? Did you miss the parts about cancer-causing for centuries? Also the bit about the largest source in the environment being from decades old weapons tests didn't tip you off at all?
Those must be the same people puzzled by unexplained bright objects around the globe in the night sky that appear to "burn bright", "have a tail", and "disappear" after traveling on a continuous arc for a few seconds. MUST BE ALIENS!
-==- Buy a Mac and leave me alone!
Back during the communist era, the "core" of the soviet state, Russia, was about protecting Russia. The satellite states be damned. Heck, they've always done that all the way back to Peter the Great. Give up outside territory, to protect the core. Same thing in the soviet era. All the risky crap was mostly done OUTSIDE native Russian empire area, so that if something did go wrong, it would not impact the "motherland".
Do you understand that levels and exposure amounts are important considerations? Trace amounts of lots of stuff are out there.
Lol. Nice.
Exposure is cumulative, and once in the environment it is bio-accumulated in algae, shellfish, etc. Guess what that does when people eat contaminated sea food? Guess what that does when they eat crops grown in contaminated soil? Guess what that odes when they drink water contaminated by exposure from runoff? You need to learn more science, your chemistry and radiology are lacking. Reading a pamphlet for a limited occupation exposure does not inform you on its behavior in the world.
Here, mod this down, too. I can afford the downmods, but you only have so many mod points.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
What should he have done? nuke it?
Forget the emails, I wanna know why Hillary sold 20% of our uranium supply to Russia.
Nice generalities, sounds scary. Now talk about the exposure risk for this particular event and the trace amounts detected.
Russians are vodka-addled incompetents.
The USA should step in for the good of Humanity and install responsible adults to replace their current "government".
Nice generalities, sounds scary. Now talk about the exposure risk for this particular event and the trace amounts detected.
That's a good question. Since Russia has been downplaying the danger instead of studying it and reporting on it faithfully like a good world citizen, we don't actually know how much material was released. Compare Tepco literally lying every time they make a statement about radiation release. We have had to revise the estimates of the danger from the Fukushima event over and over (and over and over) again because literally everything they have said has been a lie. That's exactly the same as how Russia operates.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
But we know that the levels detected were very low, and therefore the release was very small. That has been clearly reported. You can ignore if you like.
There has been no revision of Fukushima health impacts estimates. The estimate was carefully performed and well documented using the same methodology as after Chernobyl, where we found the actual health impacts much lower than estimated. There are extremely small radiological health risks from Fukushima.
That's a weird question. I assume because they were willing to pay for it.
Selling uranium to Russia does not increase Russia's ability to kill us all. They have gobs and gobs of uranium if they wanted to use it to kill people. If they want to use it to generate energy, then they buy some.
986 times the background level
half-life of Ru-106 is 374 days
The half life is about a year and halving the radiation 10 times should get it back below background.
Not good, but could be much worse.
And the fact that Western Europe has been reporting this for two weeks, still means that the issue is American media. Huh? U idiots are not very bright. Either Russia has an interesting project going on that just failed spectacularly, or some old Soviet facility collapsed on itself and released some interesting radioactive particles.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Capitalism. I bet there was a good chunk of money in it for all involved.
After it's been detected by France and Germany months ago (while denied by Russia), now Russia is able to detect
Here in Siberia the winds blow mostly from West to East. For instance, if we want to know the weather for tomorrow we listen about current weather in some city some 1000 km in the West (Sorry, my exact location is classified).
So if you see a big spot of Ruthenium in South-West Siberia and North Kazakhstan then it's source is somewhere between Russia and the EU.
Did you miss the part about being absorbed into bones like Strontium 90? Did you miss the parts about cancer-causing for centuries? Also the bit about the largest source in the environment being from decades old weapons tests didn't tip you off at all?
If you had read TFA you'd have found RU-106 has a half life of just over a year, so this element won't be "cancer causing for centuries".
Also from TFA it's most likely from a reprocessing plant not a nuclear test, indicated by the lack of other nucleotides, and the amounts detected are only just above background anyway (in sieverts) due to the high sensitivity of the tests.
"Relax, population. We can't be considered being unable to protect you, so we say nothing when a random ISIS guy finds an old barrel with exiting markings on it and sets it off with a small improvised explosive, hoping to create a dirty bomb."
Oh my! That sounds almost as dangerous as Dihydrogen Monoxide!
Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.
For more detailed information, including precautions, disposal procedures and storage requirements, refer to one of the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) available for DHMO:
Kemp Compliance & Safety MSDS for DHMO
Chem-Safe, Inc. MSDS for Dihydrogen Monoxide
Applied Petrochemical Research MSDS for Hydric Acid
Original DHMO.org Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for Dihydrogen Monoxide (html)
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Of course the irony is that the most precious of all snowflakes is in the white house.
usa legacy media now sees russia everywhere excuse/explanation is needed.
Did you sell your account to russian trolls, or have you always been a russian troll? That's a pretty low UID.
Did you sell yours to NSA?
Well, communism failed them, so now they're going to try capitalism again.
Just know this: Chernnbyl happened, and O'Bama stood by and did nothing.
Forget that, what about the emails?!1!?1?1?!!/1/11?1?!!?
I am chastened and embarrassed for my forgetfulness! Thanks for setting my straight. ;^)
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Forget the emails, I wanna know why Hillary sold 20% of our uranium supply to Russia.
This was in return for Russia selling the Democrats a lifetime supply of Krokodil, when OBams and Hillary personally use to kill the little kisd they were pimping out in Pizzagate. After the Children reach puberty, and are no longer interesting to liberals, a big dose of Krokodil sends them painfully packing and leaving this earth.
Before this, Democrats were limited to taking the children and fetuses up in jets, and dumping them overboard. Those Chemtrails? That's those children and babies. Use a Telescope, iand it all becomes clear. Millions of babies in little Democrat donkey suits.
Verified by Fox News.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
retard
You know half life just decreases radioactive quantity over time, right? A humongous amount can still be a substantial danger decades later.
This made me chuckle at first, but I'm now more concerned it's going to end up on Breitbart as breaking news.
This made me chuckle at first, but I'm now more concerned it's going to end up on Breitbart as breaking news.
Then my job here is done....
It's a funny world, with all different manner of thought processes. Some of which are from people who will refuse to believe rational truths, but will believe any half baked contrary idea.
The latest foolishness is that there was some hippie stagehand accidentally caught in a helmet reflection during an Apollo 17 visit to the moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
If this was an accident, it was an interesting one, because the helmet shield is reflective and spherical in shape, and that means that the person taking the photo will always be in the image. when taken from a front angle. So it could not have been an accident. The so-called hippie took the photo.
We can enlarge the helmet reflections in any of the photos, and there the photo taker is. When we have to enlarge it a lot, the fuzzy indistnct reflection might look like just about anything. I have one that looks like the other astronaut is dancing at a ho-down.
When in fact, all of the technology was in place to successfully take humans to the moon and bring them back safely. The orbital mechanics was proven, the computing devices were working, and the suits worked, the containment structures worked, and the Saturn 5 monster worked very well.
Seems a shame to have all of those nice toys just for Stanley Kubrick to make a fake documentary in the desert.
By the way If a stagehand got in the way of a photo, Kubrick would have noticed and the image would have never been used.
But as I've already said, there are a lot of sad people arguing out of personal incredulity - where the inability to understand how something could have happened means it didn't.
That's why we have shows like "Ancient Aliens", and that's why I reserve to right to ridicule them when ever I get a chance.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
No you know the Russian Liam’s and the area sampled measures only, the mechanism and the total amount and its state are all unknowns.