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Broadband Firms in UK Must Ditch 'Misleading' Speed Ads (bbc.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Broadband firms will no longer be able to advertise their fast net services based on the speeds just a few customers get, from May next year. Currently ISPs are allowed to use headline speeds that only 10% of customers will actually receive. In future, adverts must be based on what is available to at least half of customers at peak times. It follows research that suggested broadband advertising can be misleading for consumers. The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) looked into consumers' understanding of broadband speed claims and found that many were confused by headline speeds that they would never actually get in their own homes. The concerns were passed on to the Committees of Advertising Practice (Cap) which consulted with ISPs, consumer groups and Ofcom to find a better way to advertise fast net services. Most argued that the fairest and clearest way would be to use the average speeds achieved at peak time by 50% of customers.
Minimum speed to what? My webserver connected to the internet via 9k6 modem?
These twaddles are as old as ISPs. I just wonder why it took so long. Most ISPs are advertising the RAW carrier bit-rate rather than the actual net data bit-rate. DSL Provider show you ATM bit-rate. You can roughly cut 10-12% for the real BPS. And it still represents the raw data rate between your modem and the DSLAM. Even when you get optimal link there, the local collect loop is either deliberately throttled or saturated. By the time your data can travel to or from outside your ISPs internal network, it is already diminished. Getting VDSL2 here advertised as up-to 100up/30down MBPs. Lines has 0 loss, 0 CRC, and talks at 90/25 MBs. Even if it is encapsulated in an ATM transmission with 10% loss. That make it still like 80 Down / 25 Up. In reality ISP is throttling it to 25-30 Down 20 Up because their fiber to the central has not enough capacity in my area. Sheepples here don't care as long as they can go to Facebook to post their pathetic lolcats. Good hope some advertising regulators pay attention. Was about time they did.
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There seems to be no end to McTeagle's poetic invention. 'My new cheque book hasn't arrived' was followed up by the brilliantly allegorical 'What's twenty quid to the bloody Midland Bank?' and more recently his prizewinning poem to the Arts Council: 'Can you lend me a thousand quid?'
I made a contract too. Comcast didn’t sign it. Now there are zero remaining providers available to offer me service.
In the USA that's not really possible. All ISPs outside of rural areas are "too big" so you either accept their terms or you don't get service. It can barely be called consent.
Msmash wishes you to know that these are teledildos HACKED by EVIL RUSSIANS!
Msmash also wishes you to not know that she was paid off by a Soros-funded corporation to spew lies at you day in and day out!!
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The lady at Comcast told me she's not having any speed or connectivity problems.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
It's the same issue as net neutrality.
Here they sell you 20mbps knowing they never intend to spend enough on the network to support it. It's a lie being sold. Something that is any other business is a trading standard crime.
NN: They sell you 20mbps, yet slow the website you visit down to 2mbps because they didn't invest in enough infrastructure and can see an opportunity to sell the right to the website to not be throttled. Really they're again selling you a lie. Selling both ends of the pipe as if they're not throttling the pipe.
It's all the same thing, screw over the customers, and subvert the regulators by injecting bad actors. Pai.
Uhh, Soros is a Holocaust surviving Jew that has givens tons to charity and has already given most of his wealth to charities and he aged - so your bogeyman actually seems like a great guy.
The same Soros who has pubically stated that he has no qualms with rounding up fellow Jews to have them executed?
The same Soros who crashed national currencies to make his fortune?
The same Soros who admits to his actions being for completely amoral purposes? Because, hey, if it buys you popularity with someone, why not go for it?
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Retard, the commerce clause is in reference to interstate commerce. If a state or municipality wants to try some socialist project, it is left up to the STATE to decide.
Not for long.
This is what we've been saying the whole time.
The whole "Net Neutrality" debacle is actually a cry against fraudulent advertising; ISPs that lie about what they provide should be punished (e.g., by lawsuit), and the government should be restricted from supporting said monopolies (e.g., there shouldn't be special contracts established by states or municipalities).
The right solution for keeping the Internet working well is not Net Neutrality regulation, but rather a Federal U.S. law (via the Constitution's "commerce clause") that prohibits localities from creating what are effectively government-sponsored monopolies; the right of The People to compete in a market to provide goods and services shall not be infringed, including competition to provide Internet service.
That is the American way to solve these disputes.
9k6 modem....Someone FINALLY used the notation properly!
I am tired of all these flaming frat boys referring to things like "2K17" -- the year is not 2170!
And if you meant 2017, why not just say 2017? It's the same number of characters and sounds considerably less retarded.
That's exactly what Net Neutrality did, it made them common carriers and liable for their arbitrary blocking. It didn't stop the blocking as such, it meant they could be *sued* for the blocking. Without that they can simply put an asterix in their adverts and say "connectivity may not work for all sites" and they've covered themselves legally as they screw over monopoly customers.
I don't think lawsuits are a fix here, these are monopoly providers in many areas and need to be regulated as such. Hence they were brought under FCC to regulate them.
That's how its worked so far, they blocked competing products (e.g. online payment systems), and the FCC issued a rule to stop them, and the telco has sued the FCC to reverse the rule. Then the next block, the next FCC ruling, the next lawsuit and so on. Net Neutrality was just a legal basis they couldn't find a viable challenge for in court, so they spent big time to get Chairman Pai in the FCC to subvert from within.
Currently Verizon's blocking 4K video, which competes with their own offerings (which only go to HD), and their boy, Pai, needs to remove the laws to protect them from lawsuits.
As ever, middle America gets screwed over, since rural areas are largely stuck with one ISP. They'll end up paying the bill. I feel sorry for them, they were lied to by Trump and Fox and all the sources they trusted.
Limit 1 per customer :(
Got another link?
You live in a place where only one ISP offers a connection?
Apparently it stands for Water Displacement Formula #40. And yes, he didn't perfect it until the 40th try. Science, bitches.
WD40 stands for 'Water Dispersant #40'
The first 39 didn't work that well.
Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
Why won't this just lead to a rush of ISPs cutting off customers who pull their average down? Split the company into two: half modern, wealthy, and fast, and half poor slow and never being invested in.
This would destroy the major USA ISPs. Most of them advertise "up to" speeds that are asynchronous and rarely live up to half their expectation. Many of the larger ISPs depend on this lack of clarity to arbitrarily over subscribe their customers. This would drastically destroy many of their shady marketing practices. 3 Here's to hoping...
It's easy to 'survive' if you help out the people doing the roundups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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Is there something fundamentally wrong with their systems of government?
Everybody knows that "Up To xx Mb/s" means "you should almost, maybe, sometime, perhaps, likely, on occasion, once in a blue moon...."
Now they are trying to change things in a terrible, terrible way for ISPs - taking away hope and replacing it with fact - OK, at least 1/2 the time... but still...
*** Don't be dull.***
You're a fucking idiot.
Lots of people did it because the drive to live is strong. Look at how willing you are to throw any other humans to the lions just so that your status doesn't drop *in comparison*, never mind drop in real terms.
When we moved to rural southern Ohio in 2008, the ONLY option for "broadband" available to us was the iLEC's DSL, which it advertised as offering "up to 1 megabit" speeds (although I never saw downloads faster than about 680kbps, with just over 100kbps up).
Then the rental house we lived in was struck by lightning, which trashed the ISP's DSL modem, of course (along with a bunch of our own electronics - thank you, renter's insurance!). A chat with the tech they sent to test and replace the modem revealed that the iLEC capped DSL rates at 768/112 kbps at the DSLAM, so, in fact, the "up to 1 megabit" claim was a flat-out lie by the iLEC, Horizon. There's no other way to characterize it than as a deliberate, knowing misrepresentation.
Here in the USA, that's entirely legal - and the new, Trumpified FCC sure isn't going to do anything to change that.
Lucky us ...
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Soros is Jewish. He went to live with a non Jewish family and posed as a non Jew. And while he was doing that he worked collecting money from Jews. And even years later he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with what he did - see the 60 minutes interview I posted. It's really bizarre.
http://message.snopes.com/show...
KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.
KROFT: I mean, that's -- that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
Mr. SOROS: Not -- not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't -- you don't see the connection. But it was -- it created no -- no problem at all.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?
Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c -- I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was -- well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets -- that if I weren't there -- of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would -- would -- would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the -- whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the -- I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.
It's hard to imagine Karl Popper - who coined the term 'Open Society' which Soros named his Open Society Foundations after - having a similarly disconnected view of morality where it doesn't matter if you collaborate with evil because if you didn't do it someone else would.
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They knew exactly what they were doing.
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And if you meant 2017, why not just say 2017?
Because 2K Games finds it easier to obtain and enforce exclusive rights in the "2K17" mark.
Soros was a *child* at the time, and is being held to an adult standard in this particular example.
Dialectician. Archology.
It's hard to imagine Karl Popper - who coined the term 'Open Society' which Soros named his Open Society Foundations after - having a similarly disconnected view of morality where it doesn't matter if you collaborate with evil because if you didn't do it someone else would.
of course it's hard to imagine, because the karl popper in your head is an adult karl popper, not a child; esp. not a child all fucked up by living in fucking nazi germany!
It was Hungary were he was helping the Nazis round up Jews.
And he made his comments about guilt as an adult in 1998.
He was thirteen when he did it. I think I'd have known helping the Nazis round up my people was wrong when I was thirteen.
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You are another of these Russian troll cunts and whether you're saying this because you believe it (antisemitism is still very popular in Russia) or because you've been paid to shows you are a far worse person than Soros ever was.
It's called "the USA".
i agree, anyone who helps america is a bad guy. soros has done so much bad stuff you should just extradite him to russia and hand out all the wealth he has amassed doing things for america to repay 3rd world debt.
You are another of these Russian troll cunts
Yeah right. I'm much more pro-US than I am pro Russia or China.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
E.g. I was pro US ABM deployments in Eastern Europe
https://politics.slashdot.org/...
And nothing I said was antisemitic - in fact I criticized Soros for selling out his own people.
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That sucks...
Apparently it stands for Water Displacement Formula #40..
Then why didn't the inventor call it WDF40?
Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
I can handle the fact that my connection speed may fall short of advertised speeds... What drives me insane is "unlimited" data plans that drop your speed to pre-DSL speeds once you've reached your data cap. "Unlimited" means to me: NO FRICKING DATA CAP. All "faster speed" means to me is that I hit my data cap quicker and therefore spend more time at a MUCH MUCH lower speed than advertised.