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R.I.P., Cape Wind (bostonglobe.com)
schwit1 quotes the Boston Globe: What a long, slow death it has been for Massachusetts's first proposed offshore wind farm. But now, its proponents are finally pulling the plug. While others in the energy industry considered the Cape Wind project dead, developer Jim Gordon didn't quit after losing power contracts he needed for financing in early 2015, or after state regulators yanked permission for a power line connection last year.
Another big blow came later in 2016 when Cape Wind foes worked their magic on Beacon Hill. They successfully lobbied lawmakers to prevent Cape Wind from benefitting from a major energy bill, one that requires utilities to buy large amounts of offshore wind. This was exactly the kind of legislation Gordon needed. But he wasn't being allowed at the party...
We're embarking on a new era. Wind turbines are on their way for deeper waters, south of Martha's Vineyard. They won't be Gordon's. But at least he can take some credit, in his defeat, for being a pioneer.
Another big blow came later in 2016 when Cape Wind foes worked their magic on Beacon Hill. They successfully lobbied lawmakers to prevent Cape Wind from benefitting from a major energy bill, one that requires utilities to buy large amounts of offshore wind. This was exactly the kind of legislation Gordon needed. But he wasn't being allowed at the party...
We're embarking on a new era. Wind turbines are on their way for deeper waters, south of Martha's Vineyard. They won't be Gordon's. But at least he can take some credit, in his defeat, for being a pioneer.
Fine. Let's give them a coal-fired plant as an alternative.
...that Jim Gordon was a wind power pioneer in addition to being the commissioner of the Gotham PD
The summary ignores the fact that the anti-wind forces were the super wealthy Dems in Martha's Vineyard who didn't want their views altered.
They're all in favor of renewables as long as someone else (you) has to deal with the negatives while they get all the benefits.
You are basically saying that we are ignoring the Constitution... And I agree with you. Government needs to be as unobtrusive in our lives and businesses as possible, yet we've made it into the one organization that controls everything imaginable. Our constitution was not written to do this, quite the opposite. We may no longer have a king to pay tribute to, but what we now have is far worse, a government run on regulations written by unaccountable bureaucrats that demands ever more tribute (taxes) be paid.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
I think wind turbines are beautiful machines.Highly engineered and efficient devices that (mostly) silently turn 24/7 generating power and displacing carbon producing sources contributing to human flourishing. They are a statement that says intelligent creatures live here.
The problem is, you're giving the people the coal fired plant, when it was the politicians that screwed the people in the first place.
It's heartbreaking to watch the deep corruption in politics hold society back while doing direct harm to the citizens with their "wars" on informed personal and consensual choice and their blatant corporate fluffing.
But as long as the voters remain largely poorly educated and gullible, it's going to continue to be corrupt politicians all the way down. Sadly, the people are unable to make the connection between their voting habits and their problems. Not unwilling; unable.
And guess who controls the people's education?
Right.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Remove the unwieldy constraints of oversight from these poor businesses, you say?
Couple examples where less oversight didn't pan out:
1)Appalachia with the coal mines.
2)Wall Street with Glass-Steagall.
3)Nearly every child or proft-minded company with almost any activity.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.
Ernest Hemingway
Someone who finds a new way to make money and gets to watch others do just that.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
When business becomes over intrusive into our lives, who else can you turn to but the government? When business says it's more profitable to lock it's workers into a warehouse with poor ventilation and no fire safety equipment (that costs $$!), who else can you turn to but the government? When business feels they can sell you a product that they know will either kill you or it does nothing at all, and feels it's your problem for buying it, who else can you turn to but government?
Government is what it is because it's been cleaning up Capitalism's messes since we started this country.
The reoccurring cause is the whole NIMBY, because the rich didn't want their view ruined. You all do understand this isn't the view from shore they are complaining about being ruined. In nearly all the cases the wind turbines wouldn't be visible from land.
The view they are talking about being ruined is the view from their fishing boats, sail boats, and yachts 20 miles off shore.
I regularly poo poo on all things tree huggerish, but as an engineer I love wind turbines. There is enough potential wind power just off shore in the US to install 4 times the current power requirements.
Throw in Geo, Solar, and a bunch of base loading produced by coal/natural gas, nuclear, and if Elon can get them to work battery's, and basically we have enough power capacity to fulfill demand for the next several hundred years for all sectors of the economy including transportation, without ever having to import another drop of oil from overseas again.
"Windmills for thee, but not for me."
After all, we Kennedys are big liberal leftists. We don't have to drink our own medicine, it's enough to force others, the little people, to drink it for us.
If you were at risk from dying by being locked in a warehouse you should, through the magic of capitalism, instantaneously acquire another job at another warehouse which, of course, will be totally safe.
The problem is that -this- project isn't cost effective. The electricity purchase deal was going to substantially raise the cost of electricity for everyone in the service area. While on-shore wind power is one of the most cost-effective sources, off-shore wind power is one of the most expensive!
The hope of sufficiently developing off-shore wind is that prices will come down like with on-shore wind. However, to what extent is unknown, particularly with the size of capital investments resulting in fewer players in the market.
Reference for cost of electricity by energy source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source#United_States
Block Island Wind Farm: 24.4/kWh
Cape Wind: 18.7/kWh
Keep in mind, these are wholesale rates, which exclude the costs+profits of local utilities.
So, the only way this would really work is if everyone were required by law to use the product of this company?
Hey, I bet I could make a lot of money making baseball base markers, if everyone in the country were required by law to buy three of them every year!
Slightly more seriously, I don't consider something a good investment if it requires a law making everyone an involuntary customer...
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
You should be awesome like cayenne8. Then you can be a government contractor and decide your own working conditions.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
You know, the rich Democrats who had this project shot down repeatedly really care about global warming. I mean, you wouldn't want these ugly towers to ruin their views while they're on their yacht or flying their private plane. It's understandable.
Do you have ESP?
And when all the businesses collude to fuck your ass with a rusty nail, to whom will you turn?
I wonder if the corruption was ever this bad...in Massachusetts, one of the most favorable political climates for a project like this, money wins out. I know political corruption has existed forever, but it seems like you can't get anything done unless you have enough money to pay for a lobbyist. If everything normal people want grinds to a halt, they're eventually going to get fed up.
The thing that sucks is that most good people avoid politics because they see what a dirty business it is. Even in the large companies I've worked at, politics rules every decision regardless of merit of the apolitical folks' opinion. The problem is that it's a very "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" kind of game and enough good people have to cycle in once in a while.
That also makes me wonder 2 things...when an idealistic new Congressman or state representative comes in, when does the corruption begin? And how exactly do lobbyists pay their targets? I imagine journalists are scrutinizing their every moves to see if any bags of money are changing hands.
You're agreeing with a Russian troll, dummy.
Government needs to be as unobtrusive in our lives and businesses as possible, yet we've made it into the one organization that controls everything imaginable.
What in the fuck are you talking about, exactly?
I don't respond to AC's.
Not sure where you got those numbers for Block Island and Cape Wind because they are not in the Wikipedia page but that page does show the cost of onshore wind to be $24 to $60 MWh ($0.03 to $0.06 per kWh) with offshore wind being about twice as expensive.
(For comparison, coal $100, natural gas $60, nuclear $95, solar PV $58. All of these are minimum costs.)
Costs are dropping rapidly for wind and solar so the original plans are out of date.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Executive: Pack up. We're leaving. We only have a thousand dollars anyway.
Mayor Quimby: There's a thousand dollar leaving-town tax!
Hell, right now that child molester in Alabama is probably going to win, because the majority of voters in that state believe for a child molester to lead than a Democrat.
That would be a Democrat that is in favor of the right to an abortion among a population that sees abortion as murder. This in a state where at the time and place these accused acts of child molestation occurred the age of consent was 14 years of age. It's not "child molestation" if the person is considered old enough to consent.
This is insane.
Yes, it is. It's also politics. You go to war with the army you have. If what you have is the choice between the accused child molester and the known baby killer then people seem to rather go with the accused child molester. One of these two will (barring some unforeseen event) win this election.
This is not right. It's far from perfect. It's also what we got.
We also see Democrats running to defend the acts of sexual abuse by their own. This is documented by pictures, the accused does not deny the charges, because he can't, we have all seen the pictures. If the Democrats had any consistency in their demands for the concerns of women being sexually abused then Al Franken would not be in office right now. That's just one of many Democrats that should be run out of town over sexual abuse charges.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
So do away with property rights, which are also a function of government. The trouble is you only want a government which enforces arbitrary rules picked by you.
And when all the businesses collude to fuck your ass with a rusty nail, to whom will you turn?
You turn to YOURSELF.. What part of build something better don't you get. If businesses insist on mistreating their customers, even if they collude with all the others providing the goods or services in question, then YOU build a business that DOESN'T and you will win the game and others will be better off for it. Look, building a business may be hard work, but if everybody out there is abusing their customers what's YOUR excuse? You don't want to try?
There isn't a business out there "too big to fail" or "too big to be beaten" if things are as bad as you want to think.
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Is it me or is something missing from this post? Can you clarify your point please?
Why would you be locked in a warehouse if you didn't want to be?
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
That would be a Democrat that is in favor of the right to an abortion among a population that sees abortion as murder. This in a state where at the time and place these accused acts of child molestation occurred the age of consent was 14 years of age. It's not "child molestation" if the person is considered old enough to consent.
It's not child molestation if it was technically legal at the time? Seriously, that is your defense? That is our standard for politicians? A senator is not going to change the supreme court decision regardless.
As to the abortion thing. Abortions tend to decrease under democratic administrations. In fact, under Obama I think it was an all time low. No one wants to see abortions, but the same people who vote only on the abortion card are fine with destroying the Obamacare provision that required contraceptive coverage. My own opinion on abortion is any decision as to their legality should probably be decided by women, or if not that then at least 50% women, which yes means getting more women supreme court judges and judges at all levels. They are 50+ percent of the population.
The same people who find destroying the Obamacare mandate a good thing, despite all the negative consequences, say nothing about forcing hospitals to treat emergency cases on their nickel and passing along all those costs.
Either remove the requirement for hospitals to treat if the uninsured if they are particularly sick or require everyone to have insurance. I favor the later, and find it the only reasonable solution.
If you want to ban abortion with a constitutional amendment, save in cases of rape, then that same amendment better include free contraceptives/surgery/etc for all.
In short no decision can be made in isolation without consideration of the consequences. As far the Al Franken thing. Yea I'm dissapointed. I find he is a good senator, but clearly has made some less than stellar choices. Part of that might be him stupidly acting one of his characters at the wrong time, but it doesn't excuse it. Either way, voters should consider all facts the next time his term comes along. Personally I think he should announce he will not run again, at minimum. The two cases, are however, not the same. Al's cases didn't involve 14 year olds, and they weren't of the same scope or magnitude. He also seems to genuinely regret his actions, unlike Mr. Moore who continues to deny everything similar to how Mr. Trump handled a similar situation, and look how voting for him turned out.
When business becomes over intrusive into our lives, who else can you turn to but the government? When business says it's more profitable to lock it's workers into a warehouse with poor ventilation and no fire safety equipment (that costs $$!), who else can you turn to but the government? When business feels they can sell you a product that they know will either kill you or it does nothing at all, and feels it's your problem for buying it, who else can you turn to but government?
Government is what it is because it's been cleaning up Capitalism's messes since we started this country.
Oh yea, you DIDN'T read what I said now did you, you heard what you wanted to make your argument... The straw man that it is.
Look, I said government should be as unobtrusive as possible, I DIDN'T say non-existent. There are problems for which government is the ONLY tool, but I'm trying to point out that if the problem is a screw, then government is a sledge hammer. You can insert a screw with a sledge hammer, but the results are not pretty.
The tool we call government is a blunt instrument yet we insist on trying to solve surgical problems with it. It's like trying to replace a surface mount IC using a 100W trigger Weller iron. Sure, in theory it should work, but in practice you are going to destroy 99.9% of the circuit cards you try it on.
Government is a solution that should be your LAST resort because it's horribly ineffective and inefficient at nearly everything it does. We've made it our first solution for nearly everything now, and are paying the price in taxes and freedom while getting inferior service.
So if you think having laws to prevent a warehouse full of people from going up in flames actually work, I have a number of recent examples of this not being true, in the USA even. Sure they may help, but might there be other options that are as effective but don't cost tax money? I think there may be, but we already have "fixed" that one with a government program, and people keep dying in similar ways....
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
I would appear that 16 was the age of consent in 1979 when the act supposedly took place. reference
Nullius in verba
A "Russian Troll" that is saying "let the market handle where and how those resources should be managed" ?
LOL, well if the Russians have come over to capitalistic principles from communism, I guess we have come full circle, because the USA has been walking away from capitalism for decades.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Besides how it would look visually which for some people was big issue, another large problem was the fact that maintenance would have been very costly and difficult, and the cost of energy even though cheaper to produce was announced that everyone would be charged more for energy than what they currently are. These are the key reasons why so many in the area have been against this project.
These were going to be at least 5 miles away from any beach vantage point. They would be very tiny to the naked eye.
https://www.capewind.org/where...
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
What a pity that there are huge barriers to entry in just about every market in the world (and especially most of the ones that make you a lot of money), that the bankers went to school with the stock market traders and don't like new people, that we keep ending up with Crony Capitalism, instead of the pure as the driven snow Capitalism that so many people think should exist. And family money Really helps people get serious in business.
They're implying that there are Not always other jobs to be had for workers, so getting stuck in a dangerous factory job being overseen by a callous boss is in fact a very real situation for millions of people.
What the hell are you talking about? The photographs clearly show Franken not touching the reporter. Trying to claim it is a photo of molestation is phenomenally stupid given that we have all seen it.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
You turn to YOURSELF.. What part of build something better don't you get. If businesses insist on mistreating their customers, even if they collude with all the others providing the goods or services in question, then YOU build a business that DOESN'T and you will win the game...
What part of the business you're competing against will just have you killed if you don't play along do YOU not get? That's what bugs me about people like you, we've been here before, yet you keep wanting to redo the past. Read up on the Pinkertons sometime. Private militia group that giant conglomerates and industrialists used to push their workers into line, kill off their competition and ensure that their particular boats didn't get rocked.
There's this thing called "History", you may have heard of it? Read up on things like the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, or perhaps investigate company towns, or just look up workplace abuse.
Do those price estimates factor in the cost of having metric buttloads of fossil fuel powered generators sitting around waiting for when the wind stops blowing?
So if you think having laws to prevent a warehouse full of people from going up in flames actually work, I have a number of recent examples of this not being true, in the USA even.
You get out of Government what you put into it, and frankly, in this country, we stopped putting in about 20 years ago. Listen to yourself, you automatically assume the worst return from it so you don't even bother looking for better from it. Why should we be surprised if inspections don't get performed on businesses if you've cut your tax base to the bone? We could transition from taxes to straight fees and I guarantee you that corporations will complain about them, while simultaneously taking advantage of every subsidy and break to ensure they have a zero burden, just like they currently do. If anyone gets pinched by unfair taxes it's the middle class, who've had to pick up the slack from all the Apple's and Exxon's who avoid their commitments. The amazing thing is all conservatives can chant is LOWER TAXES and not PROSECUTE THE CHEATS.
Corporations SHOULD pay more in taxes, they are a bigger burden on society. They can wipe out the savings of millions overnight, they can send out dangerous products, they need military intervention to protect their supply lines and they drop their used up workers onto the social safety net for everyone else to carry the burden. They destroy the environment, poison our food supplies even as they bring us the products we want.
Also, we live in a nation of 50 individual governments with thousands of governments under them.. some are just gonna be better than others. Maybe they'd improve if people gave a damn and voted on performance rather than who's sleeping with whom and where or if you pray.
Sounds good.
Those costs are almost ten years old. Wind is much cheaper now.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Those are all PPAs (power purchase agreements... wholesale).
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Do you have a source? I'm very interested in seeing current pricing.
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My source for this was the Wikipedia article referenced by the OP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Republicans are the ones who dump money onto their precious insiders, as shown with their Cash for Clunkers
You need to put down the crack pipe before you post.
I checked the Senate votes on that Cash for Clunkers bill. There were 4 Republicans that voted for it, and 2 independents, and... wait for it... 54 Democrats. Votes against the bill were 1 Democrat and 35 Republicans.
If the Cash for Clunkers bill was just a bailout for the auto industry, to buy votes in the next election, then we can put all of that on the Democrats. Especially since Obama signed it, and the House had a Democrat majority at the time.
If you can't get that easily verified bit of information correct then how can I trust anything else you said? Can you provide sources for anything you claimed?
Oh, and another thing. I'm pretty sure that ten billion dollars you are talking about for loans to nuclear power also happened under Obama. Watts Barr restarted construction under Bush but it was Obama that approved over fifty billion dollars in loans that allowed for more nuclear power construction. At the same time we had Democrats complaining about no place to put the nuclear waste while it was them that shut down the Yucca Mountain waste disposal site.
This, coming from the poster who stated that Doug Jones was a "known baby killer" is somehow less believable.
Right, I should have put that in quotes. I'm not calling this guy a baby killer, the people polled in Alabama were. I don't know this guy. All I have is a vague recollection of an interview of him where he said some things in support of "women's right to access abortion" or something. Does that mean he's a "baby killer"? I don't know and I don't care.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
You sound like the scam artists that pushed the same crap back a decade ago here in Ontario. It *did* push the cost of electricity though the roof here. The situation here is now so dire that they've mandated by law that they can't cut off power in the winter, for fear of people freezing to death. This, along with what happened in Ontario is gigantic clusterfuck. Nothing more, nothing less and in both cases one would have led to higher energy prices much higher, and in the other case did lead to much higher energy prices. So much so that the government is backtracking because by june of next year it will likely cease to be an actual political party.
Om, nomnomnom...
You don't even care to learn the truth?
Go vote for Moore, you deserve him.
I don't live there so I don't care. I prefer to save my mental bandwidth for more interesting things. The vote there is a choice between two the lesser of two evils. I see no "win" here. It sounds like if Moore wins he might not be allowed to take his seat in the Senate. Apparently that's a thing.
I wonder if your opiod addled mind realized what you were saying.
Probably not. Like Elon Musk I have a tendency to post to the internet after taking my sleeping pills. That makes it hard to type sometimes because then the keyboard gets all bendy, and the lights off the screen... it shines like little angels... that lift you up....
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
How it will work in the medium term future. Renewables as the main energy with nuclear as back up but also powering high energy recycling to create zero waste cities, converting all waste back into useful raw materials. The big growth in new power stations, interconnected suburbs with solar panels and batteries, even domestic vertical axis wind turbines (low) noise, the burbs supplying power for the rest of the city, with every roof fully covered in solar panels, power station already built, just need the energy generators.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
They will just "buy" a win, as they have for the last several years.. What is the current plan? Remortgage electric prices for a 25% reduction to get the election win, and in return we pay $25 billion in interest.
They will just "buy" a win, as they have for the last several years.. What is the current plan? Remortgage electric prices for a 25% reduction to get the election win, and in return we pay $25 billion in interest.
They tried that three times already, they're also trying with the "$15 minimum wage" which is at the very best going to lead to 60k people losing their jobs. What's the current plan going to have to be? Break all FiT contracts, and stop telling companies not to produce electricity - which would drive the costs down for the end consumer.
Look at the polling though, since early this year the ontario liberals haven't polled above 18% they've been as low as 11% support. Wynne's popularity is 5-7% and hasn't increased at all. The very best case going by how things are right now is they'll scrape out with 11-13 seats in the GTA. And lose to a conservative majority.
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They havent yet activated the final part of their "strategy". You know, when "working families" (https://workingfamilies.ca/ ) which is really just a thin union coating spend millions on attack ads for the liberals. This lets them strategically use their own funds for positive messsages, while letting "someone else" do the dirty work.
Might be different this time as they finally took on some of the "third party spending" laws they should have addopted decades ago.
They were also able to get use taxpayer money to fund their own party. Like how they got the "ontario electric benefit" broken down on the electric bill, so you can clearly see what the libs are doing for you (all in the name of transparency) yet they were never able to spell out what the "debt retirement fee" or the "global adjustments" were. Odd how they were not interested in transparancy and outline how their disasterous "green energy" fixed rate contracts is what caused electricity prices to skyrocket.
Hide the negative, oversell the positive.
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It used to happen in deeply capitalist countries too until it was outlawed by evil government thugs.
Yeah, it's too bad that Ontario decided to go all in on expensive and inflexible nuclear power. Now you're stuck with these problems.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Again I point out that I'm not advocating for zero government involvement, just the least amount of it we can manage.
If you are referring to the Pinkertons getting into a shooting conflict with a bunch of Union strikers, then I ask you to tell me what the conflict was about? Why was labor upset and what was the company doing hiring the Pinkertons?
I think you miss the actual lesson from history here.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Yeah, it's too bad that Ontario decided to go all in on expensive and inflexible nuclear power. Now you're stuck with these problems.
You mean the part where nuclear carries the base load and is still only 0.085kWh with refurbishment included for the reactors? Unlike today where it's: Overcast, with no wind. Yeah those solar cells and windmills are sure working great!
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Pity that people are taught that it's impossible to compete because the other guy is too big... Come on folks, this is not rocket science (unless you started SpaceX). Sure, many attempts fail, but some succeed. The TRUTH here is that if you don't try, you will are guaranteed to fail. However, if you try, there is a chance you may succeed.
So what do you think is the wise thing to do?
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Then move perhaps? Although in the USA this is NOT a normal situation anymore now is it?
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
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I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
I am from the state and have friends from the area. What he did is just being creepy. There might have been some laws broken. There might not. The statute of limitations is up so it's a non-starter.
Here's the problem: Had he done this the smart way he would have just apologized for possible transgression in his younger years and moved on. It would have quickly faded into the background of political noise. He didn't. What he did do is expose himself as a liar, hypocrite, and unethical. He said the other day that alcohol was illegal in Etowah County in 1979. According the the local paper, it was legalized on 2 May,1972. He has made numerous other comments that are a record of fact that are incorrect or skewed. We have also found out that he dated his current wife while representing her in a divorce case. This alone should have him disbarred because further research has proven this was a pattern. As judge, he was twice removed from the bench because of his ethics. He is also under investigation for inappropriate payments taken from his non-profit. The investigation is ongoing. I don't really care if the signature is a fake. He's lied enough for me to not vote for him. Regardless of the ancient accusation.
On another note: As a male victim of sexual harassment and attempted sexual assault in my youth, I have no reason to doubt these women. If their accusations are true, they will remember the events like they happened yesterday for the rest of their lives. All the more reason to give them credence.
I come back to my computer this morning and see you've replied, assuming I'm conversing with the same AC. After reading all of that I had to go back and figure out what this was all about because your post is all over the place. This was started with my comment that the Republican running in Alabama was merely accused of improper and creepy, but likely not illegal, behavior. If Moore did break the law then it would seem easier to press charges before he gets elected to the US Senate. Once seated then the rules change, which is probably why Al Franken isn't in prison right now.
If Moore broke the law then I expect charges to be brought. Since it seems no one has formally charged him with a crime then I am inclined to think this is just a Democrat smear campaign.
Makes me wonder why you hate the USA so much.
I hate America so much that I volunteered for the Army. Oh, wait, that's not what America haters do.
I love America enough that I'd rather the Republicans found someone else to run in Alabama. I also want Franken removed from office for his crimes, and I can say that because we have photographic evidence of his crimes and he's admitted to committing these crimes. Franken is a criminal and Moore is accused. That doesn't mean either should be in office, neither should. If the people of Alabama want Moore in office then it's up to the Senate to decide if they want Moore there.
I suspect that Moore will win because the case of any improper or criminal behavior seems quite weak and based on partisanship. It's probably a coin toss on if he actually takes a seat, assuming he wins the election, because it seems that while enough Republicans and Democrats don't want him there it may come down to being the devil they know.
Maybe I should pay more attention to the race. I'm going to catch up on this some more, I'll go turn on the radio, Rush Limbaugh is on now.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
It's also good to use multiple types of renewable energy in the mix. Wind is often at its best on cloudy days when solar is inefficient. Hydro is only seriously affected by long term issues like droughts. Geothermal and tidal act as baseline sources that are constantly available.
"If you didn't care, you wouldn't be lying in his defense."
Hell, people do that all the time on the internet, Just to make a point.
Oh, pretending you have little memory, or admitting your inability to recall even your own words?
That tends to happen when I wash down an Ambien with some Bailey's on ice.
Read the whole thread over. It isn't hard.
I did and I found little of value in it.
Plenty do, actually. Documented ones like McVeigh, Rudolph, and James Harris Jackson.
There's outliers in everything, doesn't do much for the larger trend.
Nope! You have no photos and no confessions to any crimes.
I typed "Al Franken admissions" into Google, clicked on the "news" tab, and the top two results show Al Franken admitted to doing what he was accused of doing. He does not dispute this.
You forget, you've been apologizing for him all along.
I do get forgetful sometimes. That happens when I wash down my Vicoden with some red wine. Wait, did I forget to take my Ambien? I better do that now.
Ah, cute, you want to imprison Al Franken without a trial.
No, I expect he'll make a plea deal to avoid prison. Kind of hard to now claim innocence when he knows he's been caught on film molesting a woman as she slept, and has admitted publicly to doing it.
Nope, it's up to you, and you voted for him.
I'm quite certain I didn't since I don't live in Alabama. Perhaps I did and I forgot. I get forgetful after taking my allergy medicine with a beer. Oh, and I need to take my Ambien now. I don't want to forget that.
Listen, I'd go on but I'm felling reel tyred now. The kaybnord is gettying all blurring and stufff so its becomming dificilt to tope the wirds. amybe ill cime bsck later qith moore to sey.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
Probably to offset the ignorant buttheads who have no clue what they're talking about.
Yeah, I already mentioned how the report on militarist extremism was a problem in the ranks.
You did? I get forgetful sometimes.
But you should look up Moore's behavior.
Why? I'm not voting for this guy. I can't vote for this guy. I'm also quite certain the signal to noise ratio on anything I find will be quite low. Maybe if someone posts some links to something relevant I might click to read. I only know about Al Franken because it was kind of hard to not hear about that somewhere, that was kind of big news. The goings on for Moore must be more local so far, I don't see much about that here.
It can also be self-denial.
No, I'm pretty sure it's my opioid addled brain. I get forgetful sometimes.
No, you're thinking of Brock Turner, who isn't running for office, and the aforementioned Donald Trump.
Who are these people? I get forgetful sometimes.
Going to be really funny if word gets out about paternity tests.
Oh, we don't believe in those things around here. Just ask my wife, sister, and cousin. She's right over there.
Happened right on this thread. You, Moore, and Trump, all citizens of the state of Denial in the Republic of Delusion.
I don't remember. I get forgetful sometimes.
I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
The author is a very well known anti-nuke nut FYI. So much so that he makes Japanese anti-nuke nuts seem reasonable.
Om, nomnomnom...
Problem with saying "60k people losing their jobs" is the few areas in the US that enacted ordinances and legislation for that same end goal have not had a net reduction in employment.
This is Canada, specifically Ontario. Those few areas in the US that have enacted those ordinances have seen jobs flee and businesses shutdown. If 60k people lose their jobs at the very best, the province will be strained to have enough money for UI and welfare payments.
Om, nomnomnom...
Sounds like he has good reason to be antinuke.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
If areas with a higher minimum wage haven't had a net reduction in employment, and these are perforce better jobs, what does it matter if some jobs flee? They're made up for by higher-paying jobs.
Try a little empiricism sometime.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
The reason it isn't a normal situation is government action. Get the government out of that sort of regulation and it will slowly become a more normal situation.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
In your world perhaps. I don't think that's true.
In today's age, most corporations understand that happy employees are more efficient and effective than unhappy ones. In the USA today there are plenty of jobs and places to work if you are open to moving so if you are unhappy, find another job. If there isn't any around you now, move to where they exist.
Then there is the civil liability side of this. If you are injured on the job and the employer doesn't make it right, you file a civil suit. If they lose, they either pay directly, or their insurance company pays. If they are not being responsible, they won't have insurance very long. Eventually, they will be out of business from the load of civil judgments if it's really as bad as you say.
So I think this would be a self correcting problem in the long term...
Also, I've said multiple times in this thread that I don't advocate ZERO government involvement in everything. I'm advocating that government involvement should be seen as the last resort, when all else fails.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
"Renewables as the main energy with nuclear as back up "
It's cheaper and more reliable to just run with nuclear. Even old fashioned water moderated nuclear.
And, surprisingly, nuclear produces less waste than the renewables do over their respective lifespans (IF LFTRs can be made viable then nuclear will reduce this by 99% on the output and a further 88% on the input sides.)
I've seen a fair number of companies that don't seem to worry about employee happiness. I suspect that was less true when I was young, and the next quarterly report wasn't as critical in decision-making.
Civil liability isn't everything. If I lose a leg in a freak compiler accident, I've lost a leg. If I need both legs to do unit tests, I'm out of a job. If I have to worry about losing a leg every time I compile a release build, I'm not going to be happy about it, even if the civil liability is not enough to put the company out of business. Moreover, a company that keeps having compiler accidents is likely to find lawyers to reduce the liability per incident, and I'm not going to have enough money to counter them.
Moving between companies works until more companies notice that they can get away with taking risks with their workers and save money that way. Lots of people won't be able to move on the speculation that they can get a better job.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Apparently you haven't been keeping up on the news: https://www.huffingtonpost.com...
Stop! Dremel time!
How, prey tell, does that magically change the picture?
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
It doesn't change the picture at all. It shows that there are multiple women accusing Franken of sexual assault. Much like there are multiple women accusing Roy Moore. This is directly relevant to OP's comment:
If the Democrats had any consistency in their demands for the concerns of women being sexually abused then Al Franken would not be in office right now.
Stop! Dremel time!
I only commented on the claims about the picture dumbfuck.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
I only commented on the claims about the picture dumbfuck.
Oh, so you aren't denying that Franken is a sexual predator and that Democrats are hypocrites if they defend him? OK, I guess you just hate the truth so much you had to attack the only part of the comment you could.
By the way, Slashdot comments have a "Quote Parent" button (see this reply for an example of usage). This handy feature allows you to establish context for your replies. If you choose not utilize this feature, you leave responders to guess as to your intent, you sanctimonious waste of matter. Based on your evident lack of intelligence, I don't particularly expect you to learn anything from this, but I can only dream...
Stop! Dremel time!
I only commented on the claims about the picture dumbfuck.
Oh, so you aren't denying that Franken is a sexual predator and that Democrats are hypocrites if they defend him? OK, I guess you just hate the truth so much you had to attack the only part of the comment you could.
By the way, Slashdot comments have a "Quote Parent" button (see this reply for an example of usage). This handy feature allows you to establish context for your replies. If you choose not utilize this feature, you leave responders to guess as to your intent, you sanctimonious waste of matter. Based on your evident lack of intelligence, I don't particularly expect you to learn anything from this, but I can only dream...
There is no "quote parent" on mobile, but that is besides the point. If there was a "quote parent" I would use it to quote everything you wrote so I could cite it as a case of phenomenal stupidity.
Here; I've quoted it for you to highlight for posterity your continued deflection from the original question. Your user name should be Zero__IQ... it would be more accurate.
Stop! Dremel time!
Why bother? The future is humans wiped out by the next mass extinction event.
I mean, if you're going to take the long-term view, you may as well take it seriously. Plus you know you'll almost certainly be proven right (to some hypothetical outside observer) eventually.
Personally, I'm rooting for the supervolcano team, but the large extraterrestrial object team has some great players too.