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EU Urges Internet Companies To Do More To Remove Extremist Content (reuters.com)
Internet groups such as Facebook, Google's YouTube and Twitter need to do more to stem the proliferation of extremist content on their platforms, the European Commission said after a meeting on Wednesday. From a report: Social media companies have significantly boosted their resources to take down violent and extremist content as soon as possible in response to growing political pressure from European governments, particularly those hit by militant attacks in recent years. But Julian King, EU security commissioner, said that while a lot of progress had been made, additional efforts were needed. "We are not there yet. We are two years down the road of this journey: to reach our final destination we now need to speed up our work," King said in his closing speech at the third meeting of the EU Internet Forum, which brings together the Commission, EU member states, law enforcement and technology companies. The EU has said it will come forward with legislation next year if it is not satisfied with progress made by tech companies in removing extremist content, while a German online hate speech law comes into effect on Jan. 1.
Censoring people on a whim is an extreme stance.
We should urge internet companies to do more to remove the EU from trying to do anything.
Expect the EU panzer blitzkrieg by the morning.
What is extremist? Another shit word that is deliberately indeterminate.
Not wanting your country - your homeland - invaded by third-world savages is not extremist: It's extremely natural and healthy.
For all its faults, the United States definitely got the unapologetic legal protection of speech mostly correct. Obscenity laws are not Constitutional and need to go, but that's a minor ding. Any country that does not have near-absolutist free speech protections enshrined in the law of the land is slowly shitting on its own citizens. Fuck the EU.
Remember how well that spying and reporting worked out for all the Communist parties in 1980's Eastern Europe?
Why is the EU and NATO doing everything it can to become the Stasi and Warsaw Pact?
Why the need for SJW EU wide to use censorship on people reporting on the news in their EU communities?
Big corporations and big EU government working together to ban people talking about wanting to exit the EU?
From talking about the results of mass illegal immigration into the EU?
So now the EU is going to spy on chats and comments? Report users to the police?
Ban users accounts and conduct interviews at users place of work for comments online?
People of faith and in cults don't trust mobile phones. They have a holy book of war and secure place deep in no go areas to communicate during worship.
Undercover police are of no use in closed communities. The cell phone is not able to be turned into a live mic 24/7.
Any random recording will need translation. Guess who the new translator is loyal too? Their faith not the security services.
A book of war, barracks and a command and control structure hidden in plain sight as decades of "religious" practice deep in the EU.
The NSA tried collect it all. Went back 4 hops from every one of interests. Global collect it all is great for no bid funding and contractor over time.
If the police forces in Europe want to win learn from the UK mil, GCHQ, special forces and Royal Ulster Constabulary Special Branch.
Keep mission secret and never talk to the police, lawyers, media, courts, telco's about methods.
Define the enemy. Find out who is funding them. Find out where they have their support structure. Set up a new loyal police force to win.
Track back the funding and stop it. The UK had to stop Irish support from within the USA reaching the UK. The UK operated in the USA until all US funding and political support stopped flowing to Ireland.
Be more skilled than any other nations intelligence service and stop all the funding.
Create a file on every interesting person. Then offer the interesting person a deal when alone. Sell out and become and informant. Not interested? Special forces move in.
Keep doing that until most of the interesting people are informants.
Also remember the people of faith will be doing decades of and generational counter surveillance on the EU, police, mil.
They will try use the cover of virtue signalling political leadership opening the once secure police and security forces up to new "citizens"
No background information is not a pathway to join the police, mil.
The new citizens will remain loyal to their faith and collect all the information they can from any job in the gov, police, mil.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
This is due to the definition of " extremist content " changing depending on who is currently in charge and where in the world you may reside.
An ever shifting target is nigh impossible to hit.
particularly against a particular group. In the US we have a thing called "Dog Whistling" where you say racist and violent things in an off handed manor. A senatorial candidate here (Roy Moore) just told his constituents all jews were going to hell but said it like so:
"No matter how much money he’s got, he's still going to the same place that people who don't recognize God and morality and accept his salvation are going"
To the casual listener it sounds like he said Soros was going to hell, but if you're an Evangelical you understand the sub-text is that all jews are going to hell. That's a dog whistle.
Anyway, Europe doesn't tolerate dog whistling. You can't say things like what's above and not get censored. I'm on the fence with whether that's a good thing. They've got ample cause to be afraid of unregulated speech (what with the Nazi's coming out of Europe) and it's not as though the US doesn't regulate speech (shouting fire in a theater). There's a sci-fi book called Distractions by Bruce Sterling about how in the future you can assassinate just about anyone by planting the idea in some random kooks head. It doesn't sound too far from reality anymore. Especially in a country that can elect a man like Trump.
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Technically, I disagree with statements such as Dimitris Avramopoulos: "It is feasible to reduce the time it takes to remove content to a few hours".
Socially, I disagree with this proposal because it is suppression of free speech.
But. I understand. Our society deserves better than paid griefers spewing propaganda to the lambs our human race. Paid propaganda means our least fortunate suffer. To advance, we need to ensure their protection. An informed democratic process where the benefit of society is valued over hand-picked corporate goals would be most welcome. This proposal (as far as I can understand from TFA) might suck, but we do need to address the problem of paid propaganda.
Thank you for your consideration.
-eegeerg
...because it's so much easier to expect others to clean up your shit, instead of facing the fact that it's your policies, your choices, your behavior as governments that are creating the conditions in which such people thrive and multiply.
-Styopa
We need to give hate groups, no matter what end of the political spectrum they spawn from, all the access we can. Free advertising, daily interviews, the whole works. make sure every one hears it. Until they lose their air of mystery and defiance. Until every one sees them for what they are. Groups of bitter, scared power hungry monsters. Of course, stopping hate speech is never the aim of these laws. Not in the US, not in Europe. Control is.
You regulate facts and you protect opinion and that is the way it works. What the EU is up too is clutching at straws because of the mess they have made in allowing mass immigration of cultures that most emphatically do not want to assimilate, they want to dominate, to control, they come from autocratic cultures, where they strong are fully entitled to dominate and control the weak. So now they have a real problem because those autocrat culture types are waking up the independent types and a real culture clash is forming or has formed and is now getting worse. Any kind of false flag trigger could set of the migrants to start willy nilly killing existing citizens in large numbers, a huge problem and one that will hang over their heads, until those who have no desire to assimilate are removed.
Look at Sweden, it really demonstrates the reality of the problem of denial. They pretended to welcome in people in the past but they where never really welcomed, never really integrated, sort of just dumped in a region and politicians would turn up every now and again to provide lip service and no action. Any comment about this was systematically attacked and quite ruthlessly by the government, who felt if you just kept it silenced, kept it tamped down, it would just simple evaporate away. In reality it just festered and got worse and worse and in the most spectacularly blindly stupid fashion, after believing their own bullshit, they decide to pour massive amounts of fuel onto the existing fire. Swedes like to pretend they accept and integrate migrants but it ain't true, they are rejected and isolated within the country and having more makes it much worse, but the Swedes like the PR and got trapped in it, they are right fucked now. The Germans in the most stupid fashion then attempted to out do this stupidity and have now created a problem for the entire EU. I am not a racist but make no mistake I am a culturalist and have no shame in being so, fuck shitty cultures, isolate and kept them at a distance, a well protected distance, fuck wasting time, capital and our citizens lives on trying and failing to change their cultures and the only reason it happens in reality is so that multi-national corporations can steal resources from those ugly cultures.
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To do more to remove extremists...
Seriously. How many rape gangs, terror attacks, and all other manner of barbarity do people have to suffer through before these people who're incapable of living, civilly, in a first world nation are ejected (preferably from a helicopter)?
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It's ok. No one in their right mind would disagree with YOUR assessment of whether something is "extremist", or "hate speech".
Got it.
Isn't this post a dog-whistle calling for the extermination of Evangelicals?
You also disparaged 60M American who voted for Trump.
And you tied both Evangelicals and Trump voters to Nazis by juxtaposition.
This post will have to be censored.
Just read this from the King site: https://ec.europa.eu/commissio... i dont get where reuters get that hate speech law thing.. propaganda, thats for sure.
It's funny because you're calling Judge Moore's statement dog whistling is itself a straw dog attack. You accuse him of making a loaded statement, something which cannot ever really be refuted, so you have the perfect attack against him. I think that's how mainstream media also plays it's constant mind games on people by claiming that something is *really* something else. Attacks like that are based on belief and cannot be refuted because at that point relying upon the actual meaning of words themselves has been abandoned. In all, I think it's complete BS.
Fortunately people are now fully aware of how words become weaponized and used at attack vectors against rational thinking and factual reality.