Inside Oracle's Cloak-and-dagger Political War With Google (recode.net)

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Inside Oracle's Cloak-and-dagger Political War With Google (recode.net)

Posted by msmash on Thursday December 7, 2017 @07:30AM from the tussle-continues dept.

schwit1 shares a Recode report: The story that appeared in Quartz this November seemed shocking enough on its own: Google had quietly tracked the location of its Android users, even those who had turned off such monitoring on their smartphones. But missing from the news site's report was another eyebrow-raising detail: Some of its evidence, while accurate, appears to have been furnished by one of Google's fiercest foes: Oracle. For the past year, the software and cloud computing giant has mounted a cloak-and-dagger, take-no-prisoners lobbying campaign against Google, perhaps hoping to cause the company intense political and financial pain at a time when the two tech giants are also warring in federal court over allegations of stolen computer code. Since 2010, Oracle has accused Google of copying Java and using key portions of it in the making of Android. Google, for its part, has fought those claims vigorously. More recently, though, their standoff has intensified. And as a sign of the worsening rift between them, this summer Oracle tried to sell reporters on a story about the privacy pitfalls of Android, two sources confirmed to Recode.

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Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by rahvin112 · 2017-12-07 07:36 · Score: 4, Insightful

Cut off your nose to spite your face, that's the Oracle gameplan 101. They are mad at Google so they will try to destroy android, the only software keeping Java relevant.
Smart as always.
1. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 07:45 · Score: 0
  
  the only software keeping Java relevant.
  
  Wow. Just wow.
  
  What color is the sky in your world?
2. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by tomxor · 2017-12-07 07:50 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Cut off your nose to spite your face, that's the Oracle gameplan 101. They are mad at Google so they will try to destroy android, the only software keeping Java relevant.
  Smart as always.
  Regardless of the truth of your Java statement (I'm not a Java fan FYI), this is just not how Oracle operates, and no i'm not an Orcale expert either - but it's clear from their history that they don't care about long term investments, they care about buying up and cashing out all IP possible, often through litigation... they are run by lawyers and salesmen alone without any concern for more than their bottom line.
3. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 07:52 · Score: 0
  
  By showing that Google overstepped their bounds by keeping location data, Oracle isn't all evil.
  As for Java, that is still Android's biggest weakness. Had Android used compiled ELF binaries, it likely would see a 50-75% performance gain, just due to not having the overhead of a bloated JVM.
4. Re: Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by sl3xd · 2017-12-07 07:53 · Score: 1
  
  Get some women to 'remember' sexual 'assaults' by Oracle management from 20 or 30 years ago, then demand that the accused resign or be fired
  In times like these, it's useful to refer to organizational trees of the companies
  Oracle will likely sue, and then use every option in its power to bankrupt any accuser with legal costs before it gets to trial. Sure, there's probably a "loser pays" part of the law, but eventually the Lawyer representing Oracle's accuser is going to say "you know... I may never get paid for this... I'm out."
  
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5. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:08 · Score: 0
  
  Compared to Google's gameplan of Don't [get caught] Be[ing] Evil, I fail to see how either of these companies deserve my business.
6. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by jellomizer · 2017-12-07 08:10 · Score: 1
  
  While Java is still widely used, it is a far cry to Java a decade or so ago.
  
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7. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by rahvin112 · 2017-12-07 08:20 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  While Java is still widely used, it is a far cry to Java a decade or so ago.
  People are free to disagree with me, but the widespread teaching and use of Java is only still happening because of Android.
  Were Android to abandon Java many teaching programs would move away from teaching Java at all and in probably less than a year the only place Java would still be relevant would be in the enterprise tool markets where over time Python and other languages would start to take over as they have already begun to erode Java's dominance in this area.
  Java is a language that is losing relevance every day but being propped up by it's use in Android.
8. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:30 · Score: 0
  
  only if you ignore all those android phones
  but feel free to consider yourself ignorant
9. Re: Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:36 · Score: 0
  
  Although you support and defend Google's invasion of privacy and them lying about it, you might be surprised that Google's leadership could be as vulnerable to sexual assault claims as any other company out there.
10. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:48 · Score: 1
  
  This is silly. Java will exist and be relevant long after you are.
11. Re: Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 09:03 · Score: 0
  
  No matter how much you dislike someone, false accusations of sexual abuse is wrong. First, you should get them for what they really did. Second, if it can be shown that some accusations are false, it casts doubt on true accusations with no evidence.
12. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 09:25 · Score: 1
  
  My admin job involves the care and feeding, and updating and migrations, of an application server product that uses java for just about everything. It is not going away anytime soon.
13. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Gr8Apes · 2017-12-07 10:01 · Score: 1
  
  While Java is still widely used, it is a far cry to Java a decade or so ago.
  People are free to disagree with me, but the widespread teaching and use of Java is only still happening because of Android....Java is a language that is losing relevance every day but being propped up by it's use in Android.
  Yep, you keep thinking that way, I'll keep being employed. Working with Java. Not on Android.
  
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14. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Gr8Apes · 2017-12-07 10:06 · Score: 2
  
  Had Android used compiled ELF binaries,
  
  Android would have the numbers seen for Blackberry phones, today.
  
  it likely would see a 50-75% performance gain, just due to not having the overhead of a bloated JVM.
  You really don't know what you're talking about, do you? Have you even ever seen Dalvik? It's not technically even a JVM and is missing so many JVM features that to be considered bloated, well, that's truly hilarious. Now, what is bloated and designed by a sophomore is the asynchronous GUI Activity/Frame framework.
  
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15. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 10:58 · Score: 0
  
  Dalvik is no longer used. Since Lollipop it's been ART.
  "To maintain backward compatibility, ART uses the same input bytecode as Dalvik, supplied through standard .dex files as part of APK files, while the .odex files are replaced with Executable and Linkable Format (ELF) executables."
16. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by KiloByte · 2017-12-07 11:09 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  My admin job involves the care and feeding, and updating and migrations, of an application server product that uses java for just about everything. It is not going away anytime soon.
  There's lots of Cobol as the base of massive banking operations, yet somehow I wouldn't call Cobol thriving.
  
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17. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 11:42 · Score: 0
  
  It still is a VM that has to translate each and every instruction. It takes bytecode, and then executes it in the context of the architecture at hand, with all the instructions interpreted. Contrast this to Objective-C which executes apps at machine speeds, no overhead of a VM, no translating, no context switching, just native speed. VMs, especially ones that have to translate everything have a large overhead.
  CS 101 stuff here.
18. Re: Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 15:16 · Score: 0
  
  Almost ALL accusations of sexual assault are false. It's just our contemporary form of witch hunting.
19. Re: Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by MachineShedFred · 2017-12-07 15:17 · Score: 1
  
  Oh Oracle is indeed all evil. Just not because of that - they are all evil because of many other things.
  
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20. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2017-12-07 15:34 · Score: 1
  
  I've known two people in the last year who left Oracle to work at Google. On Java. Nothing to do with Android in either case.
  
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21. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2017-12-07 15:35 · Score: 1
  
  Yet you can make a very good living if you know Cobol.
  
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22. Re: Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 21:04 · Score: 0
  
  Oh look, a creepy cunt annoyed about creepy cunts getting outed. Keep crying.
23. Re: Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 21:08 · Score: 0
  
  Fat neckbeard creep doesn't believe in 'sexual assault'. How do you feel about grabbin' em by the pussy, perchance? You're not a 'star' so don't bother, loser. ;)
24. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Gr8Apes · 2017-12-08 01:21 · Score: 1
  
  It still is a VM that has to translate each and every instruction. It takes bytecode, and then executes it in the context of the architecture at hand, with all the instructions interpreted.
  
  Good thing that Android moved to the ART then, isn't it? But even then, you're so wrong it's funny. The Dalvik VM compiles the bytecode. It no more translates each instruction than C does, nor does it interpret instructions like Perl/PHP/Ruby et al (which is why those all suck for anything performance bound)
  
  CS 101 stuff here.
  So basic, you'd think even an AC on /. would know it.
  
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25. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by tehcyder · 2017-12-08 01:24 · Score: 1
  
  My admin job involves the care and feeding, and updating and migrations, of an application server product that uses java for just about everything. It is not going away anytime soon.
  There's lots of Cobol as the base of massive banking operations, yet somehow I wouldn't call Cobol thriving.
  No, but the point is that Cobol is not going away anytime soon either.
  
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26. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-08 01:44 · Score: 0
  
  Yup. That's just what I do. Made so much in the last 5 years I don't even need to work any more. But they want to keep paying me. And it's quite fun :)
27. Re:Ah the Oracle gameplan 101 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-09 12:27 · Score: 0
  
  Man, you couldn't be more wrong. The Android developer goldrush is long over and most Java developers have still never even looked at an "app". Java is by a huge margin the dominant server-side language used by enterprises, there isn't even any alternative on the horizon that can replace it. That's why there are more jobs for Java developers, and that is and that is why it's still taught.
Not exactly a tough sell by sl3xd · 2017-12-07 07:47 · Score: 1

And as a sign of the worsening rift between them, this summer Oracle tried to sell reporters on a story about the privacy pitfalls of Android, two sources confirmed to Recode.
That's not exactly a tough sell, given Google's revenue stream is dependent on tracking as much as possible about their users, to serve "more relevant" advertising.

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Blame Scott McNealy by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 07:48 · Score: 0

As co-founder and CEO of Sun, McNealy couldn't bring himself to go through with selling his brainchild (Sun Microsystems) to endless conference-roomfuls of IBM bureaucrats. So McNealy decided to sell to Larry Ellison instead, a man who could get things done.
Yeah, Larry can get things done. But he's pretty evil.
1. Re: Blame Scott McNealy by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 07:54 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Google- almost certainly evil.
  Oracle- absolutely no doubt.
2. Re: Blame Scott McNealy by rogoshen1 · 2017-12-07 08:33 · Score: 2
  
  your basically comparing stalin to hitler at that point.
3. Re: Blame Scott McNealy by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:57 · Score: 0
  
  But I only live on one of their countries.
4. Re: Blame Scott McNealy by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 15:27 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah, he can "get things done" if you mean:
  Vendor lock in that makes even Microsoft jealous
  Endless lawsuits that make Apple v Samsung look like a flash in the pan
  Borderline, if not actual fraud in government contracts
  Closing of open source projects and essentially killing them for no reason
  Huge price gouging that makes Microsoft licensing look like a bargain
  Crippling of "community" versions of open source projects they buy, necessitating forking and the inevitable fragmentation that ensues
  Fuck Oracle.
Re: That's almost as intricate by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 07:57 · Score: 0

Your frequent posts about creimer's supposed sex life constituents sexual assault. Go away.
Re: That's almost as intricate by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:00 · Score: 0

I don't get the connection. Are you suggesting he will retire as a sex worker?
No matter who wins by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:01 · Score: 0

everyone loses
Just wait if Oracle wins by bobstreo · 2017-12-07 08:04 · Score: 3, Insightful

Then you'll see how much per CPU in your phone/tablet/android device it will cost extra for your Oracle licensing.
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I think I remember this from school.. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:11 · Score: 0

Fight!Fight!Fight!Fight!
Right side of prevailing politics by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:25 · Score: 0, Interesting

campaign against Google, perhaps hoping to cause the company intense political and financial pain
Unlike Google and many other Silicon Valley monsters, Larry Ellison hasn't made himself an enemy of Republicans in Washington. He supports (R) PACs and has backed Rubio and others with generous funding.
Many other Valley companies are paying a price for indulging their left wing politics. They've got no time for any (R)s so when the political winds shift and someone like Ajit Pai ends up running the FCC they're out in the cold; no fucks are given. The telecoms have a much longer legacy and more wisdom in dealing with the powers that be; they know better than to alienate one side or the other, and that is paying off in a big way now. After next week all the Valley Virtues Inc. outfits are going to be faced with negotiating peering with hostile telecoms and learning just how much rent they'll be paying to continue operating.
One can only hope Google et. al grow up at some point. Eventually their investors, seeing the self inflicted damage caused by la-la land political myopia, will correct the problem.
1. Re:Right side of prevailing politics by youngone · 2017-12-07 09:50 · Score: 2
  
  What a weird place, where businesses need to pay protection money to stay in business.
2. Re:Right side of prevailing politics by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 10:29 · Score: 0
  
  There isn't anything weird about it. We turn to government to cure our every complaint and demand they assign themselves power to fix them. We direct nearly half of all the wealth we create through government at some level, 34% federal. The weird thing is that after having done this people like you find it strange that one must pay protection.
3. Re:Right side of prevailing politics by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 13:52 · Score: 0
  
  That's on par with Hamas being mad about where we put the US embassy; we don't give a damn.
4. Re:Right side of prevailing politics by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 16:13 · Score: 0
  
  What a weird place, where businesses need to pay protection money to stay in business.
  SOP for this stinkin' shit-hole: https://www.yakimawa.gov/
Re: That's almost as intricate by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 08:31 · Score: 0

I'm so honored that you wasted your two posts on me today. That's so touching.
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Copying Java? by PPH · 2017-12-07 08:47 · Score: 4, Funny

That's sort of like peeking at the exam paper of the dumbest kid in class.

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1. Re:Copying Java? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-08 11:21 · Score: 0
  
  Still could be useful. You've got a good idea what the wrong answer is.
2. Re:Copying Java? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-14 04:09 · Score: 0
  
  That's sort of like peeking at the exam paper of the dumbest kid in class.
  Yeah, while PHP may occasionally lick the chalkboard, at least it doesn't eat glue.
Come on google, Hit them hard by 140Mandak262Jamuna · 2017-12-07 08:51 · Score: 4, Insightful

Develop a database product that is 10 times faster than Oracle using MapReduce, and make it perfectly backward compatible with existing Oracle database. Oracle destroyed Sun, destroyed Java, destroyed PeopleSoft.... It is the worse company than even Microsoft.

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1. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 09:42 · Score: 0
  
  Develop a database product that is 10 times faster than Oracle using MapReduce, (...)
  LOL. Good luck.
2. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by 140Mandak262Jamuna · 2017-12-07 10:04 · Score: 1
  
  Thanks for being complacent. Thats how it got Microsoft.
  
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3. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by El_Muerte_TDS · 2017-12-07 10:46 · Score: 2
  
  Google just has to buy EDB, make their Oracle compatibility layer OpenSource and part of PostgreSQL.
4. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 10:53 · Score: 0
  
  It's not complacency, it's disbelief that a product that is ten tmes as fast can be created and be sufficiently mature and is expected to be supported long enough for it to be worth the risk to switch for what might be mission-critical functions with regulatory sanctions for failure. Being a first adopter can be great, if the product lives. In past times I have been an early adopter of products that did not survive, even though at that time the received wisdom was that this one would be 'the one'.
  In terms of replacing Oracle, there are use cases where something else would be appropriate now. But there are use cases where it would not, and it would need to be a drop-in replacement. But providing assurance that all the odd corner-cases where Oracle works also work on something new would be difficult. What happens with a particular load on Friday the 13th at 00:01 when 1 million queries for names with an apostrophe come in. Will it work? Can you prove it will work? Do you even know that you might have such a use case now?
5. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 11:53 · Score: 0
  
  That's a good one. Oracle isn't the best database because it's the fastest, although it's pretty damned fast. It's the best because it's the closest thing to a 100% guarantee that your transactions and data are safe. Virtually every bank and stock exchange on this planet uses Oracle for their financial transactions. I'd guess that >90% of public utilities do so as well for their billing systems. Nobody pays astronomical licensing costs because Oracle's fast, they pay it because any data corruption involving dollars and cents could be catastrophic top their business.
6. Re: Come on google, Hit them hard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 14:08 · Score: 0
  
  Yo Dawgs, you know that Microsoft has nothing to do with this, right?
7. Re: Come on google, Hit them hard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 15:35 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, great. They'll get right on that. And when they do, nobody that matters would be stupid enough to use it, because of Google's love of randomly killing projects and products arbitrarily.
  Who in their right mind would trust their core data strategy to the mercurial shifts that Google has displayed? People running big data need to know they will still have support for all that data in two years.
8. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 21:35 · Score: 0
  
  You think Oracle's programmers are stupid, don't you?
  If you want Google to win, we need to stop the SJWs from cheering them on when they fire competent programmers to please the feminazis.
  Google needs the best damned talents to win this.
9. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by coofercat · 2017-12-08 02:47 · Score: 1
  
  Google already has a Mysql/Postgres compatible cloud SQL solution. If they added Oracle compatibility to that, it would be a good start (and no open sourcing required).
  I know banks use Oracle, as do some wanna-be banks. Banks are slow to move, so your sales cycle mostly runs to years, so Oracle have at least another 5 years before they see any major decline there. I also know some companies who really shouldn't have ever used Oracle for their application, but thought that it would be a safe choice. Those are the people "someone" could peel away from Oracle onto a compatible alternative. The sales-cycle will be shorter, they're more price-sensitive than banks and they're less worried about regulators (although some are regulated, just not the same way as banks).
10. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by James+Youngman · 2017-12-08 07:45 · Score: 1
  
  Well, they already have Spanner, MySQL and Postgres. And that's just their relational database offerings. They have Cloud Bigtable too.
11. Re:Come on google, Hit them hard by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-14 04:17 · Score: 0
  
  That's a good one. Oracle isn't the best database because it's the fastest, although it's pretty damned fast. It's the best because it's the closest thing to a 100% guarantee that your transactions and data are safe. Virtually every bank and stock exchange on this planet uses Oracle for their financial transactions. I'd guess that >90% of public utilities do so as well for their billing systems. Nobody pays astronomical licensing costs because Oracle's fast, they pay it because any data corruption involving dollars and cents could be catastrophic top their business.
  It is also the only database engine, I have used where 1 was not equal to 1 in a query without doing gymnastics on the data and input for the where clause.
  I.E. Convert the number field to a string, then convert it to a number and do the same for the 1 on the other side of the equal operator, otherwise it would not return any rows. This was not even user input filtering as it was something dumb and hardcoded like:
  SELECT * from Properties WHERE Properties.tax_state=1;
Awesome by nightfire-unique · 2017-12-07 09:09 · Score: 3, Interesting

Hopefully this three-way battle between Google, Amazon and Oracle will result in an opening a new mobile competitor can squeeze into. Android desperately needs some legitimate competition.

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1. Re:Awesome by squiggleslash · 2017-12-07 11:23 · Score: 1
  
  I'm not sure I want an Oraclephone, the idea brings visions of 1990s talk plans coupled with some large, hard to use, device that only works efficiently if you're a trained professional.
  
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2. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 11:50 · Score: 0
  
  It needs to be legitimate competition before it can have any. You only buy an Android if you can't afford a proper phone from Apple.
3. Re: Awesome by Reverend+Green · 2017-12-07 15:27 · Score: 1
  
  Are you kidding, broham? Have you actually used an iPhone? Android is way more pleasant, regardless of cost.
4. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 20:31 · Score: 0
  
  Well, there's Tizen ;]
5. Re:Awesome by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 21:39 · Score: 0
  
  And that innovation will most likely come from China... where they don't have all these Silicon Valley obsessions with LGBTBBQ, BLM, Antifa, and Feminazis.
6. Re:Awesome by jay+age · 2017-12-12 01:48 · Score: 1
  
  It has one - iOS.
Java is still highly relevant by DeplorableCodeMonkey · 2017-12-07 10:19 · Score: 1

Look at the world of big data. What do you see? A ton of Java SE without the bullshit of Java EE holding it back. Aside from Go, try writing most of those products in the hipster-approved platforms like Python and NodeJS.
1. Re:Java is still highly relevant by Just+Some+Guy · 2017-12-07 11:36 · Score: 1
  
  A ton of Java [...]
  ...but called Scala. I don't see a lot of bare Java in the big data stores I'm around.
  
  Aside from Go, try writing most of those products in the hipster-approved platforms like Python
  ...which had its first public release 26 years ago. Python can rent cars and it would buy a house if it wasn't a millennial. Its kid sister, Java, just turned 22.
  But yeah, I see way more Python than (again, plain ol') Java in big data. JVM languages other than Java are pretty popular, and Spark/Hadoop are often coordinating efforts behind the scenes, but the software running on the cluster is probably going to be Python/NumPy/SciPy/scikit-learn or Scala.
  Admittedly, the datasets I work on aren't bigger than a small number of petabytes, so maybe we're not big data by some standards.
  
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Jobs still alive by twdorris · 2017-12-07 10:47 · Score: 1

All this because Jobs wanted to go thermonuclear on Google for stealing iPhone market share and Mr. Larry vowed to avenge his lost friend?
PostgreSQL by Tablizer · 2017-12-07 11:08 · Score: 3, Interesting

All Google has to do is invest R&D into PostgreSQL (including UI's and documentation), and maybe some marketing. It could trigger a big drop in new Oracle sales, and knock the company into a panicky death spiral as investors flee. Novell redux.

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Up next by easyTree · 2017-12-07 11:24 · Score: 1

Who has the best office furniture, Oracle or Google?

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No competition: Google wins by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 11:31 · Score: 0

Google are evil and insanely powerful these days but they still give us cool shit and generally help computer science advance.

Oracle are cunts famous for patent troll law suits and being assholes.

Google is the grizzly bear in the forest outside your home. Stay out of its way and it'll leave a dead elk on your front porch from time to time.

Oracle is the criminally insane psychopath who keeps trying to break into your family home.

Also Google has more money and Congressmen love money. Google wins!

So do the honorable thing Larry.
Re: That's almost as intricate by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 14:54 · Score: 0

Always stay vigilante for the crumster dumpster. Its because of good Slashdot users like you we can have peace from that troll.
Re: That's almost as intricate by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 15:21 · Score: 0

When are you going to stop raping your neighbor's goats?
Re: That's almost as intricate by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 15:55 · Score: 0

You can't goat-shame a person who has accepted his own sexual orientation, Tit Boy.
Re: That's almost as intricate by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 16:09 · Score: 0

Then mod me up when you can! The fat loser has the time and energy to maintain multiple identities and pester us, but I have a real job...
So... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-07 18:56 · Score: 0

Which one's the White Spy and which one's the Black Spy?
While Oracle is fighting with Google... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-12-08 00:13 · Score: 0

Microsoft is directly attacking Oracle's marketshare with SQL Server 2017 linux's port and the recent licensing changes. Oracle should be careful not to lose its biggest software business while it's busy attacking Google via legal means.