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Toyota's New Power Plant Will Create Clean Energy From Manure (usatoday.com)
schwit1 shares a report from Futurism: Japanese automobile giant Toyota is making some exciting moves in the realm of renewable, clean energy. The company is planning to build a power plant in California that turns the methane gas produced by cow manure into water, electricity, and hydrogen. The project, known as the Tri-Gen Project, was unveiled at this year's Los Angeles Auto Show. The plant, which will be located at the Port of Long Beach in California, will be "the world's first commercial-scale 100% renewable power and hydrogen generation plant," writes USA Today. Toyota is expecting the plant to come online in about 2020.
The plant is expected to have the capability to provide enough energy to power 2,350 average homes and enough fuel to operate 1,500 hydrogen-powered vehicles daily. The company is estimating the plant to be able to produce 2.35 MW of electricity and 1.2 tons of hydrogen each day. The facility will also be equipped with one of the largest hydrogen fueling stations in the world. Toyota's North America group vice president for strategic planning, Doug Murtha, says that the company "understand[s] the tremendous potential to reduce emissions and improve society."
The plant is expected to have the capability to provide enough energy to power 2,350 average homes and enough fuel to operate 1,500 hydrogen-powered vehicles daily. The company is estimating the plant to be able to produce 2.35 MW of electricity and 1.2 tons of hydrogen each day. The facility will also be equipped with one of the largest hydrogen fueling stations in the world. Toyota's North America group vice president for strategic planning, Doug Murtha, says that the company "understand[s] the tremendous potential to reduce emissions and improve society."
If it runs off of shit, Washington DC should be its home.
And all that power will be used to power bitcoin.
Who run Bartertown?
How is this "clean" energy? Cows are well known as one of the largest sources of greenhouse gas emissions. How many cows are required to support this plant and are their greenhouse gas emissions factored in when figuring out how "clean" the energy is? If we have to start maintaining large herds of cattle to support these powerplants this is probably not a good thing.
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The port of Long Beach is well known for it's large herds of cattle. Sounds like an episode of Futurama.
Yawn. Holler at me when you can make cows from renewable, clean energy.
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Had to be said.
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will it have a constant production of 2.35MW ? or will it produce 2.35MWh a day ? Huge difference. "The company is estimating the plant to be able to produce 2.35 MW of electricity and 1.2 tons of hydrogen each day." I would expect a unit in Wh in this sentence, a unit of energy, not a unit of power.
Yikes. It'll take a lot of energy to convert that carbon atom into one or more of oxygen and hydrogen.
There should be a system of points: for each gross thing like this, I get one percent of smacking this author in the face. Sheesh.
I mean,
1) You have to "fabricate" the manure (it takes a lot of resources to make and the "creation" process does contamine)
2) Instead of fertilizing the soil to cultivate food for humans (I guess the "half the planet earthlings are starving" hasn't take its toll in their minds) they prefer to burn the manure.
Win-Win! Wait... ain't that right, is it?
From Wikipedia.
Germany had 5905 Biogas plants in 2010 .
The electricity supply was approximately 12.8 TWh, which was 12.6% of the total generated renewable electricity then.
I don't see a real difference here, but since I'm not a newbie I can't possibly RTFA.
Then... we will make manure from clean energy!
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
The cows exist either way.
Yes, but that still does not make this "clean" energy. If a coal-fired plant uses an improved boiler that reduces its emissions that does not make it a clean energy source it just makes it a less damaging one. I'd argue that this is exactly what this is - it might be better than what we do now but there is no way you can call this clean given the emissions required to produce what it needs to run.
Trumpâ(TM)s Twitter Tweets could be used as some kind of super fuel?
What if we run this system inside the Trump Reality Distortion Field... Will it produce enough power to keep Bitcoin mining economical?
Someone discovered that modern reporters don't know that methane comes from decaying organic material, like cow dung! Now THAT made this a headline story.
See also India coaldung fuel balls, India. Just in case a reporter out there wants to get a scoop on what to do with the leavin's.
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Let's break it down. Here's their statement. "The company is planning to build a power plant in California that turns the methane gas produced by cow manure into water, electricity, and hydrogen."
Water, good from the hydrogen in the methane and oxygen in the air, mix well and you get water. Electricity, from the hydrogen in the methane combined with a fuel cell and you get electricity and water. Okay, so far. Hydrogen, for storage and use later. Yup. hydrogen from the methane. Good thing there are 4 atoms of hydrogen in each methane molecule. Look like we need a lot of it.
But where did the carbon atom from the methane go. Typically, you burn methane to produce heat, water and carbon dioxide, the heat you use, the water usually goes down the drain and the carbon dioxide goes up the flue. Where did the carbon atom go in the process being set up here?
I know. I'm thinking to much. It's a curse.
After a quick read I see nothing about the cost of producing the energy. Since it states "reduce emissions and improve society" would indicate that the cost is more other type of power plants.
Being California, I am sure the state will pour in millions in subsidy to help pay for the higher cost of producing the energy and return people get to feel good that they are "saving the planet" (even though they are not).
If they can make power for near the cost of coal power, without subsidy, then great. If they need a subsidy, then it is a bad deal.
Making energy from dung is a big step forward from making cars out of dung
But what may occur if, perchance, the manure strikes the ventilation equipment? Has anyone considered this possibility? It even sounds like an almost catchy catch phrase.
Man, You're shitting me aren't you?
I call bullshit on this.
Paper is not made of trees.
Oh, really? Some paper may contain fibres from other sources but a lot of paper comes from wood which is why there are pulp mills in places known for harvesting timber like Canada. They literally make it from trees.