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CIA Captured Putin's 'Specific Instructions' To Hack the 2016 Election, Says Report (thedailybeast.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Daily Beast: When Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., CIA Director John Brennan and FBI Director James B. Comey all went to see Donald Trump together during the presidential transition, they told him conclusively that they had "captured Putin's specific instructions on the operation" to hack the 2016 presidential election, according to a report in The Washington Post. The intel bosses were worried that he would explode but Trump remained calm during the carefully choreographed meeting. "He was affable, courteous, complimentary," Clapper told the Post. Comey stayed behind afterward to tell the president-elect about the controversial Steele dossier, however, and that private meeting may have been responsible for the animosity that would eventually lead to Trump firing the director of the FBI.
They won't publish because it would reveal how they got that information. They aren't going to advertise how the Kremlin leaks. Now go back and learn about how to do foreign intelligence.
No no... there's no evidence at all - but if you keep repeating the lie that there must be something there and you keep looking because of the seriousness of the accusations then something like 30-50% of the USA will either believe it or pretend to believe it in order to return your team to power.
Party over country comrade... party over country.
So a "news" agency makes an outlandish claim and produces no evidence to support that claim and we are expected to simply believe it.
My how Slashdot has fallen - this used to be a place for evidence based discussion. Now it's a sewing circle.
Mueller has been at it for almost a year now and besides some sound bites and headlines on CNN nothing truly significant has come out yet. Heâ(TM)s wasting time, trying to keep his job afloat. When heâ(TM)s done his career will be over and he knows it.
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>Most likely doesn't want to Prove that AC is really a Russian troll.
Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I'd like to believe the Russians are recoiling in horror at how effective their efforts have been.
They might be in competition with the USA and gain a little at their expense, but too much disruption is bad for everyone's business. On the other hand... the full potential of an American return to isolationism is nowhere near being realized, so maybe the Russians are pleased with the results.
My grandkids may one day be able to read a reasonable analysis of it all, I doubt those of us living through it will ever have a comprehensive objective grasp on it.
no evidence has been found regarding meeting with the Russians before elected. The task is to find evidence of collusion _in order to alter the election_. Having someone plead guilty to lying about meeting with Russian a couple days before new years is NOT the same thing as meeting with them prior to November. I think the problem is so many people wanted to impeach the guy, the day after the election no less, that this crap is being viewed through a distorted lens. Had someone suggested impeaching Obama after being caught on a hot microphone saying he would have more power to work with russia after his election, the very same people would be making the exact same counter claims. Of all the things that the opposition could target, this whole russia thing has to be the worst strategy of all time.
either A) everyone knows that nothing illegal has transpired regardless of any evidence that has or will have been discovered; so this is more of a 'keep the lime light on him to rally the troops and win a future election'
or B) everyone is so blind with rage that they are literally crying wolf so often that eventually something real and substantial is going to come out and everyone is going to be to turned off that only about 30% of the population will believe it, because they already wanted to believe it even before it existed.
the bottom line is that even IF trump had literally sat in the same room as Putin back in August and had a powwow about what the FSB could do in order to assist in Trumps campaign - that still isn't anything actually prohibited. He literally could have stood up and said "I talked to Putin... so what? what are you going to do about it? Tell me not to do it anymore?"
Lets not forget that what HAS been discovered is that HRC's campaign team DID pay $500k to a lawfirm who then engaged Fusion GPS, who then engaged with the Russians, to provide a potentially fake Dossier for the EXPRESSED PURPOSE of ALTERING THE 2016 ELECTION. So if you think uncovering any sort of Russian communication is going to be enough to sink his presidency then you also have to concede that HRC will also be tried and convicted of AT LEAST the same crime, possibly worse if it turns out to be fabricated as well, that amounts to planting false evidence. You also must concede that HRC, had she won, would have been legitimately impeached for COLLUSION as well. You cannot uses the same argument to convict one guy but insist the other candidate is unimpeachable when, currently, there is more evidence stacked against her than what concrete evidence has amassed against him. Lying to the FBI is only evidence of a lie. Without the actual evidence, you only have evidence about a coverup of some unknown thing.
It is my Opinion that this whole Russia thing is about as much of a NON-Starter as the whole Birther movement. That was a constant distraction, intentionally so. Who cares if he was born in Kenya? McCain was born in Panama. Obummer's mom was a US Citizen which automatically makes him a US Citizen regardless of where he was born. Everyone knows this. The idea some foreign birth certificate could have unseated him was a stupid daydream of people that wanted to hate him for the sake of hating him. Ironically he did enough stupid shit nobody had to invent a birth certificate to be upset with the guy. This is completely untested water with vague interpretations and no solid precedence to go on. When John Kerry was running for POTUS he often boasted about speaking with world leaders of France and England, etc, while he was on the campaign trail. This is something of revisionist history to pretend this sort of thing has never happened before. If there were laws against it the US would be incapable of doing the exact same shit in other countries, and we do this shit all the time. We are constantly trying to rig elections in other countries, its embarrassing to hear my fellow americans cry in their cheerios about how the big bad russians did something so unprecedented. We live in a pretty big fucking glass house, we should no better than to throw the 'meddling in elections' stone.
You have read about the high level FBI agent who texted that they needed and insurance plan against the remote chance that Trump might win the election, didn't you?
This was the same agent who was assigned to be part of interviewing Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, Hillary Clinton, and Michael Flynn...all of them lied during those interviews, only one was charged. I think that and other similar revelations might have something to do with why Trump would trust ANYONE more than he trusted the heads of those agencies.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
"Lying to the FBI" is quite a ways away from where we started, which, if you may recall was "attempting to work with that same power (Russia) to scuttle an opponent's election bid".
Michael Flynn's job was literally to make contact with the governments of other countries, including Russia, after the election. Slashdot won't let me write that key word in huge letters for emphasis, so I'll just have to repeat it. AFTER the election. After. After. If anything he did after the election scuttled Hillary's chances before the election, I'd say that his impending Nobel prize for a working time machine would be worth it.
As it is, he decided not to contradict his boss (Pence) while having what he thought was an informal water-cooler discussion with a colleague, but was actually an interrogation without his lawyer present, conducted by an FBI agent who is probably going to (literally) hang for sedition because all of this happened as part of a (literal) conspiracy to (literally) overthrow the legally elected President.
See that "Preview" button?
> Donald Trump Jr. met with a representative of the Russian government to discuss the Russians helping with the election in exchange for dropping Russian sanctions
Please stop lying.
Trump Jr. was trying to get opposition research. Something that is entirely legal.
As a private citizen, Trump Jr. is allowed to speak to anybody he wants. It's called freedom of speech.
The person Trump Jr. spoke to was not a representative of the Russian government. She was a GPS Fusion plant.