What's The Best TV Show About Working in Tech? (gizmodo.com)
An anonymous reader writes:
Recently Gizmodo hailed "the best show ever made about Silicon Valley", asking its readers one question: why didn't you watch it? They're talking about AMC's Halt and Catch Fire, which their Senior Reviews Editor says "discovered the fascinating, frustrating human side to the soulless monsters who built Silicon Valley." Unfortunately, "nobody watched it. The show never cracked a million live viewers after the pilot episode. It sat firmly on the bubble every season, getting greenlit only by the grace of AMC."
Today Netflix is making that show's fourth (and final) season available -- but is it the best show about working in tech? What about Mr. Robot, Silicon Valley, or The IT Crowd -- or that short-lived X-Files spin-off, The Lone Gunmen?
Has there ever been a good show about geeks -- besides those various PBS documentaries? Leave your own answers in the comments.
What's the best TV show about working in tech?
Today Netflix is making that show's fourth (and final) season available -- but is it the best show about working in tech? What about Mr. Robot, Silicon Valley, or The IT Crowd -- or that short-lived X-Files spin-off, The Lone Gunmen?
Has there ever been a good show about geeks -- besides those various PBS documentaries? Leave your own answers in the comments.
What's the best TV show about working in tech?
They made a short-lived cartoon series. Dilbert is the most accurate depiction of tech life, ever.
It's funny because it's true.
HCF was just OK, I can see why it didn't pick up a lot of viewers. It was more about the emergence of tech and what that meant to more traditional companies, but the thing was it just was not that gripping for whatever reason. I don't know by what metric you could possibly claim is was a great show. I only made it through most of season one before I grew too bored and stopped watching.
I've not yet seen Mr Robot but I have seen all of Silicon Valley so far, and THAT is by far the best show about working in tech. If you are not in the valley the crazy stuff around startup culture is not AS pertinent, but the personalities of coders are honestly not too outlandish compared to the real thing. As everyone on Slashdot probably already knows, the whole spaces vs tabs thing is all too real where a causal viewer would probably think that part was absurd... also just sheer arbitrariness of developing any software for a large company is well portrayed.
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UK version. Nothing else is close.
Matrix
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So how to bump stocks relate to working in IT again exactly? Seems like if I were to investing in anything, "bump stocks" have a great sounding name, I may have to go buy some. Thanks!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The IT Crowd was produced by the BBC. You can find it online. It followed a company's "technical support" geeks who'd been banished to the basement. Very funny!
The only show about working in Tech that anybody should care to see :)
These are all good shows. But my background is years in Help Desk support. IT Crowd nails it every time. The nuance of the job, the culture, the clueless users, the whims of tyrannical and ignorant CEOs, the repeated same questions over and over - have you tried rebooting your computer? Absolutely, perfectly encapsulates Help Desk life as a low-level techie.
The most accurate filmed depiction of working in tech is Fritz Lang's Metropolis. I am not joking.
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You are welcome on my lawn.
"the best show ever made about silicon Valley ...They're talking about amc's halt and catch fire"
really?!
i watched 1st two seasons, started out promising, but it was clear writers had no idea about the techs they were speaking about (or more likely deliberately dumbed things down quite a lot). actors, for example, mackenzie davis, obviously did not study or was nowhere near a good coder, like she was portraying, you can tell by the way she was literally banging on her keyboard
the people who the shows are about don't watch tv. and boomers don't understand silicon valley, only big brain theory
Reading TFS made me double check, and I can confirm that this is not on netflix Australia. Which is why I've not watched it: I'm too lazy to torrent these days, the DVD is too expensive for a probable watch-once, it has never been on free-to-air here, netflix in their wisdom have chosen to not make it available, and I'm not going to waste money on multiple subscription services.
By contrast: IT crowd is constantly repeated on ABC, pretty sure silicon valley is on netflix, and I got lone gunmen in the cheap bin at at an actual store.
tl;dr it comes down to availability, or lack thereof.
...that to me is most reflective of life in IT in a metaphorical way is The Wire.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
If you remove the fact that they are academics working on psychics then you basically have a good basis for life in the SF Bay.
When I was working there I got taken along to a Friday afternoon premier of one of the Star Trek movies at Mountain View's Shoreline Multiscreen cinema.
Sandals, shorts, pony tails and awful T-shirts. Beards if you can grow one. It's like a uniform for the geek crowd. This was the 90's, I doubt they've changed.
A couple stand up at the front and they shout out "hey everyone, excited?". The crowd goes wild.
"Hey, who here is from HP?". A small patch of the crowd woop and cheer.
"Hey who here is from Apple?" Another small patch of the crowd woop and cheer.
They repeat this with all the big names until finally..
"Hey who here is from Microsoft?". The room goes silent and then everyone starts booing. Then we all laughed.
I do miss that place sometimes...
If you have to ask, you weren't there.
Beware of the Leopard.
Women I've known in tech who were good programmers were very in control of their emotions. I've met people like the main female character in Halt and Catch Fire at nightclubs and such, but usually, they come from rough backgrounds and have substance abuse problems and barely can get a job working retail.
IT Crowd, Big Bang Theory, three I could continue to watch. HCF stopped after a few episodes probably binge watch when I get sick for a few days and catch up on everything else
Your'e all thinking it, I just said it for you
Itâ(TM)s like being Pretty much anyone from whom Jack Bauer is trying to extract info.
The original series of course.
Is there anything this movie gets wrong about "working" in IT?
Moron bosses who know nothing about what you actually do? Check.
Multiple pointy-haired types hounding you about your work because they "have to be involved"? Check.
Consultants? Ugh, check.
Outdated tech that needs replacing but its "not in the budget"? Damn it feels good to be a Check sir!
So much more. This is the penultimate look at what working in IT is like. The only thing close is The IT Crowd.
Either they let it slip, or the show was only needed in order for them to project what they're going to do to you (so that they can say, "but we warned you what we were going to do").
Computer Chronicles
Because tech people leaned long ago you don't have to watch stuff live.
This one., because of "... difficult, strange, disgusting, or messy occupational duties alongside the typical employees. ... working hard to complete every task as best he can despite discomfort, hazards, or repulsive situations - and, at times, all three."
I think Phil and Lem sum up the strife of corporate nerdom well working under the management pressures from Ted and with morally bankrupt of leadership of Veronica.
I miss that show
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt12...
It's not even close, unless you consider the Star Trek copycat The Orville.
There was so much self inflicted drama in Halt and Catch Fire. I tried watching it, but after the first few episodes I honestly didn't care what happened to the characters, or what gender they were, or what sexual orientation they may or may not have.
Person of interest wasn't cancelled until season 5, so that's clearly a lie.
How 'bout "Lost in Space"? I mean, really, here we are, stranded on a planet in the middle of nowhere, probably millions of light years away from home...
User land tech is just an office type drama. Exception Office Space, for the humor ;) was just funny
;) All of which are, for the most part very hard to visualize let alone record in video in a way that someone who does not do it would understand or even care about.
;)
;) And it was not because we were loud or anything ;) Our conversation was so alien, I think it just ruined their piece of mind ;)
;)
Entrepreneur tech is just crazy, social, rich individual type drama.
Actual Software Development, can not be put in video because it is thought, the ah ha moments, looooong periods of typing, doing, executing, reading, thinking, testing, a few Got Ya Sucker! moments
So what they always end up with is, the side stories, social interactions, drama, etc, etc. with a little poorly done tech mixed in, to try and make it look techie
What it all comes down to is, to present most parts of IT, you need to understand that sub section of IT, which those not doing it can not do.
Example, On numinous occasions I have been sitting at a bar/where ever chatting with a friend/my son-in-law/etc (someone in the business) and people sitting next to us will just kind of look at us, shake their heads and move down the bar/go elsewhere
Also, the IT/Tech fields are not special in this regard, there are many areas like this. I think that is why things always end up going back to the old formulas, drama, humor, social interactions, sex, violence, crime, etc. all packaged in an environment.
Just my 2 cents
Curb to me represents the constant frustration of being misunderstood when I was just the messenger between the tech and the staffers. Right before I left it all went a bit Office Space
It was several times better than The Big Bang Theory.
Note: That's still an _incredible_ insult.
Closest thing is Office Space I would say.
Never seen it; just going on the title.
After 30 years in electronics engineering and manufacturing I found Dilbert covered all the HR fads, management types, rain-man like programmers and smarmy sales people. We had a boss that once asked us to "make everything the same high prioriy", not realizing it was already a Dilbert cartoon.
"Unfortunately, "nobody watched it. "
We, who would have been interested, lived it.
Just while we are ironing our business shirts, we don't want to watch a show where somebody is ironing shirts.
Of course all Star Trek's feature "This must be done in the next 6 minutes or we're all dead! But I canna change the laws of physics!!" meme...
Hacking the encryption with a gun to your head while Halle Berry poses topless. Yeah, it's exactly like that.
Second place goes to Hackers.
After spending 25 years living in San Jose, Cupertino and Sunnyvale working at tech giants and startups, the last thing I want to see is a sitcom glorifying the ensemble of douchebags, assholes, and nabobs one encounters over a few decades there.
Office Space was pretty close, except in reality there isn't just one Lumbergh: the valley is 95% lumbergh.
Translation: It was about the Gen-Xers that created tech, but Millennials aren't interested in anything that happened before 2010 when they started working.
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Has there ever been a good show about geeks
There has never been a "good" show about being an IT worker. Nor about being a doctor, cop, president, soldier, spy, lawyer, detective, scientist or any other job that comes to mind. Even the "reality" shows are completely artificial.
They are all depicted as disneyfied caricatures, since all jobs are tedious, unimaginative and dull. But people don't want realism on TV - that is what real life is for. TV only ever offers the concentrated, accelerated, no natural ingredients, version of "life" in whatever way it claims to reflect it.
If anyone thinks TV offers a "window" on peoples' lives, they are either being obtuse or have no actual clue.
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If Office Space was the penultimate, what would you say was the ultimate?
(hint: You might want to look up the definition of penultimate)
The original movie. Still a cult classic!
Star Trek. No fucking contest.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
It focuses on how software os starting to define itself.
This is kinda what it's like....
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
Decent
Awful and annoying show.
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Hyperion Bay only ran for one season in 1998-99. I remember it because they tried to dramatize the process of finishing up a release. The managers were screaming at the tech guys to "FIND THE BUG!!" and they showed screens of text flying by too fast to read. 10 seconds before the release window closes, they find the bug (presumably using "grep --recursive BUG *.c") and remove it and ship the release. It was hysterical.
Re "What's the best TV show about working"
A series that covers the history of and working with Television Set, Quartz Watch, Video Recorder, Photocopier, Fax Machine, Telephone.
The Secret Life of Machines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Why would anyone choose to watch a show called 'Halt and Catch Fire' without additional information? The name isn't catchy or poetic, and doesn't convey any information concerning what the show is about.
Actually working in IT.
(hint: You might want to look up the definition of penultimate)
It means a really, really nice Biro (or Bic, depending on your cultural background).
If you've been around tech long, you may have heard the phrase.
Amazon created a great show about Silicon Valley called Betas that can be seen via Amazon Prime.
Surprised with all the cryptobunnies on this site, nobody has mentioned this favorite.
What we want tech work to be is much better than the reality.
Better Off Ted is pretty much the winner here.
If you graduated high school between 2000 and 2015 you are a millennial.
I don't care if you identify with them or not, but go find another disparaging term for the young people you seem to hate.
Gen X-ers spent all their money on crappy cars that all rusted and houses that are now falling apart, caused the drug war and the severe penalties for drunk driving, bought a ton of now useless CD's and VHS tapes, and destroyed the housing market thinking they were going to flip houses like they saw on the TV.
Anyone else see J-Pod back in 2008?
That is a gem among tech shows
...Mr Robot? It's about the only show I've ever seen that accurately represents IT tech in general (rather that crappy 3D).
It was great, except for the last episode of 1, then it became average.
+1 for the IT crowd until it got too stupid to be funny.
Collected quite a few for my to-watch list from the comments, thanks.
We could finally laugh at ourselves instead of crying.
These type of shows do not exist. Not for IT, not for anything else. Brooklyn 99 is NOT about the Police in Brooklyn, NY. NCIS is not about the NCIS. All those hospital shows are note about hospitals.
They are just there to have some place people get together to interact.
Not enough people identify with IT people, so they do not care.
All shows are about human interaction. If you would need to name one, take "Chuck" or any other and just change the jobtitles.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
I just binged the final season of "Halt and Catch Fire." I also binged "The IT Crowed." I am up to season 2 of "Mr. Robot" and am also caught up with "Silicon Valley." I just think we are too small a group and tend to also be cable cutters and not counted. I was extremely disappointed last year when I found out that season 4 would be the last for "Halt and Catch Fire."
If they make it I will watch!
Watch all of them, all of them get _some_ aspects of geek life right. Accentuate the bloody positive.
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And the reason is not: "because writers are stupid".
The reason is: "because watchers are stupid".
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Nobody is interested, period. Comparing "Mad Men" to "Halt and catch fire" isn't even comparing apples to oranges, it's comparing cake to shit. The world of advertising, especially in the changing cultural environment of the '60s, is rightfully perceived as engaging and glamorous. The world of IT is about a disgusting bunch of badly-dressed, foul-smelling, awkward-looking social outcasts with terminal halitosis. No-one is interested. No-one that matters, anyway, and nobody wants an audience made up by nerds.
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Silicon Valley, no doubt. Can't wait for the next season.
I'm a Network Engineer and I've been in the IT field for over 30 years. I'm a generalist, but currently specializing in information security. Penetration testing and computer forensics, white hat hacking.
Without any doubt, the best IT tech related show is "Mr. Robot". It's the most realistic in terms of hacking, using real code, real tools, real techniques and tactics.
maybe it's because I lived that history. My first computer was an Apple ][e in 1983. I programmed it and learned so much. I've watched the show and remembered so much. It was great. I loved the characters, and how they left and came back to each other all because of technology that they wanted to create. The show embodied that spirit of just making something and turning that passion into a business or to try to. This still happens and will continue because we will continue to want to make something. Why did no one like it? Maybe it had more geek spirit than the general audience cared for.
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I am a fan of HBO's series Silicon Valley.
Good point. Slashdot needs to go all bumpstops, all the time. Lets cut out the silly news aggregation aspect of it and turn it into a single-topic soapbox, as it was originally intended to be.
First, there has never been a TV show that got the tech industry in Silicon Valley right, the shows tend to be skinny 20-somethings living in huge lavish apartments with amazing views and outgoing lifestyles which is the exact opposite of reality. There have been several shows set in San Francisco that gets the feel of that city correct but don't show the tech industry at all, and most people that work in Silicon Valley don't consider San Francisco to be a part of it, just a fringe out-lie'r (hint: San Francisco is an hour drive outside of Silicon Valley.)
To date, the only media to get it right has been two movies: Grandma's Boy which did a good job capturing life in the world of videogame testing and Office Space which got the soul-devouring cubicle hell correct. I've personally worked in a wide variety of Silicon Valley companies, including: Symantec, Nvidia, Electronic Arts, IBM, Applied Materials, Dionex, countless hole-in-the-wall places that do data management, insurance companies, school districts, and computer retail.
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(1967-1978), parallels all the p00p that happens in society today. Beside, Carol was a Cutie !!
I find Adam Curtis documentaries do a great job of explaining the rise of tech and the forces within and behind tech which shape our world.
I've seen the four seasons of Hell and catch fire. The last was boring. Leaving the tech side to a kind of family sitcom.
Mr robot is still great
About Silicon Valley, i quit at the end of S01E03.
I quit watching Halt and Catch Fire after a few episodes. The presentation of the tech was OK, but I found all of the characters unlikable. Not one of them seemed to have any sense of humor. It was all just constant stress and drama.
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Not the best, but relevant to the discussion:
Betas
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt30...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
Freaks and Geeks
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt01...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I really liked the first season. All the obvious drama aside, it's a fun story about people working in ye olde tech explosion era.
Had a few cool hacks in S1, but then it turned into a fight club-esque psychological thriller about Elliot's battle with his alternate personality, while dictating it all to a third personality (you, the viewer) while a bunch of other psychologically abused people get murdered/go off the rails as a result of his actions.
The drug dealer from S1 who had his neighbor/drug dealer murdered being the example that seals next season's plot and lack of tech hacks.
captcha was codfish.... Elliot's backdoor equivalent of 'swordfish'?
The Walking Dead.