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Lithuania Calls On EU To Stop Adjusting Clocks For Daylight Savings (theguardian.com)
AmiMoJo shares a report from The Guardian: Lithuania has said that it would push the European Union to abolish its law on daylight saving time, claiming that most people find it annoying to have to adjust their clocks twice a year. An opinion poll published this year showed that 79% of people in the nation of 2.8 million were against the annual ritual of adjusting clocks forward by one hour in the spring and then back an hour in the autumn. Proponents of daylight saving time, adopted at the beginning of the 20th century, say the longer evening daylight hours in the summer help save energy and bolster productivity. The European Commission said it was "currently examining the summertime question based on all available evidence."
Daylight Saving Time is a great idea. Ditching it in the winter is the problem. Just keep it year round and eliminate the stupid changing.
what time is it???? its time to see what the ROCK is COOKING
say the longer evening daylight hours in the summer help save energy and bolster productivity.
How much productivity is lost due to the additional cardiac events? Maybe the proponents might consider the dangers of mornings, and Mondays.
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Slashdot readers are pretty educated, if only because we know that's where Lithium batteries come from.
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I was not aware there was an EU law on daylight saving.
Remember the Java DST bug?
How about the SWIFT hiccup when the time change got applied backwards.
Or how much it costs to update ever single time zone file on every computer in the world.
I am not advocating for or against DST - I'm advocating for pick you're poison and stick with it. Changing it and mucking around with it is expensive, consumes time I should be spending solving other problems, and is annoying.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
... in an out of control world.
"Slashdot readers are pretty educated" Ha. Generalizations like that are why education won't fix stupid in my lifetime.
Yes, leave it on Daylight Saving Time all year round. The long summer nights with the sun out until 10pm is great! Sport Lovers, Campers, and Outdoor People Love it. I like it that way too, you get a lot done in those evening hours.
Let me help you out. Spacetime is flat. The Earth is roughly spherical.
Here's my proposed compromise: Keep the "fall back", but get rid of the "spring forward". Sure, it might take some getting used to, but I'm sure we'd manage it sometime over the next 24 years or so.
Pound! Bang! Bin! Bash! is this a shell script or a Batman comic?
It's *DAYLIGHT SAVING*, not *DAYLIGHT SAVINGS*. It isn't a bank! Get it right!
Then it is the green thing to do. Just PROVE that it does indeed save energy. With everyone now using LED bulbs I bet it does not save as much as it did in the past.
If you think slashdot readers are especially stupid (a not unreasonable observation) you have not had much contact with the broader population.
> Just please stop bringing up this discussion every couple of months.
wat?
Jingoists masquerading as nerds.
keep moving ahead one hour, once a year.
“Only a white man would believe you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket.”
Daylight saving time does strike you as something that only a progressive era, white intellectual could think of rather than something simpler like changing school schedules.
Daylight savings is being kept around because it the extra hour of daylight is an extra hour of shopping. You're going to have a powerful lobby of retail chains fighting against ending it. It's similar to why we can't have good public transport: if you could get around easy you'd be less likely to stop at a restaurant for dinner. In the days before chain stores and restaurants people didn't think this way, but when you do stuff on the scale the chains do then all sorts of silly evils become worthwhile. I remember finding out that my town refused to build an express way to route around a 3 year highway closure because the local fast food owners paid off the city council to stop it. You'd be amazed how much local corruption there is.
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Economical LED lams made Daylight saving time change obsolete.
It just brings confusion into our lives and adds complexity to computer systems.
People are obliged to repeat trillions of times "do not forget to change time tomorrow" for no rational reason, but just because populists are afraid to change anything due to the Status quo bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I find summertime to be much more pleasant anyway. But joke's on them: after the last switch to wintertime I never changed my hours. So now I go to work at 7:30, instead of 8:30. Sure, it's still dark, but at least I get to go home in daylight... Unlike the official time zone, which would have me arrive in the office and go home in the dark.
Shows what you know then. They only have the hottest women of all of Europe.
We could stop changing clocks. But it won't necessarily change anything to the way we live. For example, the train timetables in France before implementation of summertime changed twice a year, with summer and winter service. The summer service usually ran one hour earlier than the winter service. Of course, this also not limited to trains, so there was already something like a summer time implemented. Note that Lithuanians could use this, changing their schedule around the legal change to keep using the same solar time.
How about a new /. poll: Your highest level of education completed? 0. Still in high school, 1. Did not finish high school, 2. high school, 3. associate's, 4. bachelor's, 5. post-graduate certificate, 6. master's/Diplom/similar, 7. Ph.D./D.Phil./other ISCED level 8, 8. professional (M.D., LL.D., etc.), 9. post-doctoral (Habilitation, etc.), 10. trade school, 11. Something I'll explain in the comments. I've submitted a number of polls, but they never get chosen. Maybe someone else will have luck with this!
polls require honesty. this is faggot town full of russian spambots paid to suck trump's dick. polls can't work here, we can't have nice things. restrict IP's, then we'll talk.
There are many things that "people" find annoying, and would probably be overwhelming against them in opinion polls: paying taxes certainly, but also dying in car accidents because of working in the dark. Decisions shouldn't be taken by the people's belly; they should be based on rational evidence.
You're showing a complete disregard for the complicated history of the Baltic region. Which has me assuming that your American.
Yes, the Baltic states were part of the Soviet Union. But not by choice.
Historically, the Baltic states are closer to central Europe then to Russia, and after the end of the Soviet Union they realigned with western Europe and are members of the EU and NATO.
So no, they're not "covertly meddling in the affairs of other countries". Quite the opposite. They are in constant danger of Russia meddling with their affairs, as for Putin they are parts of his Russian Empire that he wants back.
... most people find it annoying to have to adjust their clocks twice a year.
Set your clocks ahead one hour, then six months later set them back - so annoying.
Thankfully, there are so many other things we get to do way more often.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
50%: what, Lithuania is a country? other 50%: what, Lithuania is in Europe?
No, it was a British ocean liner sunk by q German submarine in World War I.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
My only education is CowboyNeal.
Then shouldn't you be rooting for abolishing the DST? The discussion ends, when it's done.
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Only the great powers of Europe may decide on this and any other important topics. Small nations must only obey. Verstanden, untermensch? Gaszimmer fuer Sie!
They'd be better off keeping summer time all year long. In non agricultural societies more light in the evening is more valuable than light before you get up.
Because some people claim that there is some vague energy saving aspect to it.... which has never actually materialized.
France was the first EU country to introduce it in 1976 and Swiss was the last one in 1981. There were earlier attempts at it, but those were luckily only short lived.
recently voted in favour of the same, after a citizen initiative. For years there has been a general argument that there's nothing Finland can do, since the EU dictates everything, and not following their rules would make us look really bad. But now we're finally pushing the issue via our MEPs.
I guess it makes it easier to work with timezones when all EU countries switch at the same time. However, to really harmonize things, why not have UTC (or possibly Central European time) across all EU? We only have something like 3 adjacent timezones anyway, and natural solar time has already been ruined by summer time.
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That's only applicable for US readers. European readers will instead consider other aspects of Lithuania.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
We have the technology for every individual to keep personalised local time, just like we used to with sundials and local time for every village - midday is when the sun is at its highest for me. And we have the technology to make that work and do all the coordination stuff. It just involves some good hard analysis to work it all out to make it work. All of your undoubted objections are just a list of things to analyse and work out. It ca be done!
And imagine the continuous wave of new year's eve fireworks around the globe.
The energy saving aspect is totally gone. Most of the (household) consumption during the day is from air-conditioning, with evening lighting only taking up a small part since the switch to LEDs. DST should now be called DWT.
Only in Fascist EU does an independent nation state have to ask permission to change their own laws.
Daylight Saving Time is a great idea. Ditching it in the winter is the problem. Just keep it year round and eliminate the stupid changing.
As someone who live in Toronto, Canada, DST in winter would mean sunrise at around 9 AM in the morning. And the places even north of us (i.e., most of the rest of Canada) would have it even later (Edmonton, AB @ 10).
No thanks.
Why can't we just have Standard Time year-round? It is after all the time it should be (hence the name).
It was December 17th when my cat finally stopped getting mad that dinner was suddenly an hour later.
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin
you have not had much contact with the broader population.
Everyone should be required to work in retail, similar to how the Israelis compel military service. Nothing got me through enginerding school like the motivation of my retail experience. ~
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30 days has September, April, June, and November. February has 28, and the rest have 31...Really?
How about 13 months of 28 days each with one extra - New Years Day.
Since 28 is divisible by 7, we can assign the weekdays to specific days. The first day of each month will always be Monday.
Go Lithuania!
So true. This is the lamest argument ever, and Slashdot just loves to rehash it.
Scratch that thing and hang the one who pushed for it, please. If he's not already dead. It's annoying and completely stupid. Time is a stupid concept anyway. We all have our own biological clocks and those are most important.
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