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Kansas Swatting Perpetrator 'SWauTistic' Interviewed on Twitter (krebsonsecurity.com)

"That kids house that I swatted is on the news," tweeted "SWauTistic" -- before he realized he'd gotten somebody killed. Security researcher Brian Krebs reveals what happened next. When it became apparent that a man had been killed as a result of the swatting, Swautistic tweeted that he didn't get anyone killed because he didn't pull the trigger. Swautistic soon changed his Twitter handle to @GoredTutor36, but KrebsOnSecurity managed to obtain several weeks' worth of tweets from Swautistic before his account was renamed. Those tweets indicate that Swautistic is a serial swatter -- meaning he has claimed responsibility for a number of other recent false reports to the police. Among the recent hoaxes he's taken credit for include a false report of a bomb threat at the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) that disrupted a high-profile public meeting on the net neutrality debate. Swautistic also has claimed responsibility for a hoax bomb threat that forced the evacuation of the Dallas Convention Center, and another bomb threat at a high school in Panama City, Fla, among others.

After tweeting about the incident extensively Friday afternoon, KrebsOnSecurity was contacted by someone in control of the @GoredTutor36 Twitter account. GoredTutor36 said he's been the victim of swatting attempts himself, and that this was the reason he decided to start swatting others. He said the thrill of it "comes from having to hide from police via net connections." Asked about the FCC incident, @GoredTutor36 acknowledged it was his bomb threat. "Yep. Raped em," he wrote. "Bomb threats are more fun and cooler than swats in my opinion and I should have just stuck to that," he wrote. "But I began making $ doing some swat requests."

Krebs' article also links to a police briefing with playback from the 911 call. "There is no question that police officers and first responders across the country need a great deal more training to bring the number of police shootings way down..." Krebs argues. "Also, all police officers and dispatchers need to be trained on what swatting is, how to spot the signs of a hoax, and how to minimize the risk of anyone getting harmed when responding to reports about hostage situations or bomb threats."

But he also argues that filing a false police report should be reclassified as a felony in all states.

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  1. What an asshole by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I didn't kill anyone because I didn't pull the trigger"

    Wow. No, you just fooled a bunch of heavily armed people into thinking they were going to be confronting an armed and dangerous person who had already killed one person. No way could you have POSSIBLY predicted that situation could potentially lead to a death.

    This idiot should be locked away for a very, very long time to think about what he did.

    On a separate note - the cops need to be royally reamed. They know swatting is a thing, they know getting the address wrong is a thing... yet they roll up and without any confirmation of what's going on they shoot the guy who answers the door. FFS, no hostage-taking murderer with a gun is going to open up the front door to the police without a hostage in front of them anyway.

    10:1 the shooter had bad trigger discipline. Odds are even better that what blame the cops can't avoid will be so thinly distributed that pretty much no punishment results despite the fact they killed one of the people they're charged with protecting.

    1. Re: What an asshole by makerfixer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That was a disgusting shooting, the guy basically was shot 10 rounds into a game of Simon Says. Swat teams need to consider that they are meant for shock and awe but trained and give instructions expecting calm and careful reasoning of subjects in front of them.

    2. Re:What an asshole by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

      From what I understand, the 911 call contained some remarkably specific information that could only have originated from someone in a house where, according to the caller, there was an armed family member holding the rest of the family hostage - yet had somehow managed to overlook the caller. That seems like a pretty big red flag that this was *potentially* a crank call to me

      The caller pretended to be the killer/hostage-taker. He also stated he'd doused the house in gasoline, which added a time-critical element to the situation (gasoline fumes can ignite on contact with many mundane heat/electric sources).

      Basically the caller fed the 911 operator exactly the information needed to cause the police to abandon caution, and thus maximize the chances of the police killing someone. This was a social hack of the 911 and police response system.

      The one part of the story I'm unclear on is that 911 operators are supposed to see the phone's address (landline) or location (mobile) when they receive a call. If those didn't match the address the caller claimed this was all happening at, that should've been a red flag. I'm assuming the caller figured out a work-around to spoof his location in the 911 system. (Actually, based on the sign-up procedure for my VoIP phone numbers, I think I know how this could be done.)

    3. Re:What an asshole by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Informative
      I suspect there are still a lot of details that are not fully in the public conciousness yet - I didn't know that he'd claimed to be the actual hostage taker - but again that doesn't really work. Right off the bat, that should indicate that the supposed shooter has come to their senses somewhat and may be at least open to being talked down without any further violence. Then there's this:

      gasoline fumes can ignite on contact with many mundane heat/electric sources

      That includes gunfire, so surely that's another reason why the responding police should have been cautioned about not being so trigger happy before they arrived on the scene? Potentially, you're either close enough to know for sure that you won't miss which increases the chance the gun discharging would ignite any fumes directly, or far enough back that you might miss and have a ricochet do it.

      I think the real takeaway here is that are multiple procedural and training failures on the side of law enforcement that need to be kept in the spotlight, rather than allowing it to focus entirely on the actions of the two gamers. A tragic mistake has already happened and that can't be changed, but there's no reason to compound that by failing to learn from it.

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  2. Re:Earlier police failures... by sg_oneill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Probably didn't work out who it was.

    This kids fucked. But he's *very* damn lucky Swatting isn't a felony, because Felony + Someone dies is enough to trigger a capital murder case in some states. And even if thats not the case wherever he is, theres a good chance all the cops would need is three felonies and the kid goes away for the best part of his life.

    Oh, he'll be doing big time though, count on that much.

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  3. Cops and Swatter by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The cop who shot and the swatter should share a general populaiton cell for 20+ years for complicity in the murder.

    Swatter obviously created a dangerous situation, but this danger was exacerbated by the typical behavior of American cops.

    Cops were supposed to be professionals. Instead, they were trigger-happy to save their sorry hides and murdered an innocent man. The cop who shot has blood on his hands and should never be forgiven or seen as anything but a murderer.

    The emergency dispatcher who didn't ask the right questions to determine if it was a prank is also somewhat negligent. The call was to the city hall, not 9-1-1, and described a different home than where the murder took place.

  4. Throw the book at him . . . by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He begs to be made an example of, and it should be done pour encourager les autres.

    We cannot have that in civil society.

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  5. Re:It's easy to second guess police... by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The killing today in Colorado of a sheriff's deputy responding to a domestic violence call highlights the challenge faced by law enforcement officers.

    A thousand cops being killed does not justify a single innocent person being killed by cops.

    If they cannot do their jobs without being killed or killing innocents, it's time to replace the police. Close it down and create a new police force based on police in countries where crime is at a similar level but the death toll in police confrontations is much lower.

  6. SWauTistic Video Interview by Diac · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't like advertising this guys channel but as its relevant here is an interview a youtuber called Keemstar did with SWauTistic hours before he was arrested.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    1. Re:SWauTistic Video Interview by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah he was arrested right afterward. Slashdot is keeping its tradition of posting day or even week old "news".

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  7. Re:Earlier police failures... by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, as TFA points out, filing a false police report (which is esssentially what swatting is) *is* a felony in some juridictions but a misdemeanor in others. It's clearly a misdemeanor in California, but AFAICT can be either a misdemeanor *or* felony in Kansas depending on the severity. Since someone got killed, I'd guess this could fall into the felony category, in which case "Swautistic" could be going away for quite some time if prosecuted and found guilty in Kansas.

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  8. Felony murder rule is something else by raymorris · · Score: 4, Informative

    The felony murder rule is:

    When a person commits a felony, and as a result someone dies, it's murder.

    A classic example would be a robbery. John and Rob plan to rob a convenience store. Rob shots the clerk. John claims "I didn't mean for anyone to get shot - I was just doing an armed robbery". John is guilty of felony murder because a) he was committing a felony and b) it resulted in death. There is a presumption that you know felonies are dangerous, and that you shouldn't commit felonies. So although John didn't WANT someone to die, he was criminally reckless by committing armed robbery, which he knew *could* result in death.

    Another, perhaps more interesting example:

    John and Rob plan an armed robbery of a convenience store. When they pull out their guns, an armed civilian behind them shots Rob, who later dies. John is once again guilty of felony murder. He didn't plan for Rob to die, but he did know that committing armed robbery could get someone killed.

  9. Re:This is just a sad state of affairs by mea2214 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And the unfortunate cop who pulled the trigger. 4 lives minimum, ruined.

    The cop won't be punished. He'll be treated as a victim in this. The swatters will get good lawyers who will find some loophole in the law. The guy who answered the door is the only life that will have been ruined.

  10. Re:It's easy to second guess police... by rossz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uh, no. Police work is not all that dangerous of a job. Cops who die on the job mostly die from car accidents because they drive like idiots, or from heart attacks from all those donuts.

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  11. Re:We've put the cops in an impossible situation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Americans had guns for more than two hundred years, but militarization of the police is a phenomenon that started with the war on drugs. Let's place blame where it belongs.

  12. Re:We've put the cops in an impossible situation by sjames · · Score: 4, Informative

    The "kid" is a 25 year old man-child.

  13. Re:There is a technical solution by oic0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The solution is for the cops to calm the heck down. Violent crime is at an all time low but the cops keep becoming more and more violent. We aren't In a warzone. Police shot and killed per year is at it's lowest since the early 1900s despite the obvious population increase. Far more die of heart attacks on duty. Maybe lay off the donuts AND the assault rifles.

  14. Re:It's easy to second guess police... by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes cops are people too, the problem is they aren't punished like people when they make mistakes, particularly mistakes that result in people dying. When you make the cops above the law and allow them to make these mistakes without punishment you create situations where the police shoot first and explain it later.

    As in all police shootings the police reported the killed innocent reached for his waist band. Of course no weapon was found and he didn't actually reach for his waist band. Because of this a bad cop will remain on the force, a cop that shot first and killed an innocent father.

    Cops need to be held responsible for their actions in the same way a doctor is held responsible when they make mistakes that result in someones death. In fact cops are about the only profession in the country where they can kill people through negligence and aren't punished for it. That's wrong and you should admit it.

  15. Re: Earlier police failures... by Memnos · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's because it is. In fact, to quote the US government's own National Institute of Justice, and confirmed by a fair bit of research, "The certainty of being caught is a vastly more powerful deterrent than the punishment." It's not the severity of the penalty, but the likelihood of it occurring.

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