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How Do Americans Define Online Harassment? (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: According to a new Pew Research Center survey, defining online harassment is just as complicated for the average American user as it is for huge social media companies -- and the line gets even more fuzzy when gender or race come into the picture. The survey polled 4,151 respondents on various scenarios and asked them whether each one crossed the threshold for online harassment. In one hypothetical, a private disagreement between a man and his friend David is forwarded to a third party and posted online, which escalates to David receiving "unkind" messages, "vulgar" messages, and eventually being doxxed and threatened. When asked whether or not David was harassed, 89 percent of respondents agreed that he was. However, opinions on exactly when the harassment began varied widely: 5 percent considered it harassment when David offends his friend; 48 percent said it's when the friend forwards the conversation; 54 percent said it's when the conversation is shared publicly. Others agreed it crossed the line when David received the unkind messages (72 percent), the vulgar messages (82 percent), is doxxed (85 percent), and threatened (85 percent). There was little difference in responses by gender.

Questions regarding sexual harassment, perhaps unsurprisingly, are more divisive -- especially between men and women. In a second example, a woman named Julie receives "vulgar messages" about her looks and sexual behavior after posting on social media about a controversial issue. Women were about three times more likely than men (24 percent vs. 9 percent) to label it online harassment when Julie's post is shared by a popular blogger with thousands of followers. Fifty percent of women vs. 35 percent of men consider it harassment when Julie starts getting unkind messages. When it comes to vulgar messages, threats, or Julie's photo being edited to include sexual imagery, 8 out of 10 men consider it harassment, as opposed to 9 out of 10 women.

There's also a curious division between acknowledging something as harassment and believing that action should be taken by social media platforms. In the case of sexual harassment, for example, 43 percent of respondents considered the unkind messages harassment -- yet only 20 percent thought the social media platform should intervene. In a scenario where a woman's picture is edited to include sexual imagery, 84 percent called it harassment, but only 71 percent thought platforms should step in. The same can be said of an example involving racial harassment. Although 82 percent of respondents called messages with racial slurs and insults harassment, only 57 percent thought the platform should step in; the same goes for the person having their picture edited to include racially insensitive images (80 percent vs. 57 percent) and threats (82 percent vs. 67 percent). In both cases, respondents' gender is not provided.

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  1. Not black and white issue by gurps_npc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This response if fairly typical of anything that isn't a clear black and white issue.

    1) Man opens stranger's purse and takes $50 = theft.
    2) Same, but is his 15 year old daughter's purse without permission, is it theft?
    3) Same but daughter had broken a $50 bottle of wine, is it theft?
    4) Man opens wife's purse (no permission) and takes $50 to buy food and does not tell her after the fact - is it theft?
    5) Same but does tell her after the fact, is it theft?.
    6) Same thing but he puts in a check for $50 and takes her $50 in cash is it theft?

    Obviously, everyone says 1 is theft, and not many people are going to call #6 theft, but the stuff in between is not black and white. Some will call it theft, others will not.

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    1. Re:Not black and white issue by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Funny

      In all instances there was no asking of permission to take anothers money.

      This is gender specific. My wife can take money from my wallet without permission, because my money is "ours". But the money in her wallet is "hers".

    2. Re:Not black and white issue by mentil · · Score: 2

      That's the thing about social sciences: every probe into a problem seems to raise more questions than it answers. It's like meteorology minus the incontrovertible facts.

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    3. Re:Not black and white issue by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      To quote my lawyer, I go to court to get an executable title, not to be right.

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    4. Re:Not black and white issue by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is gender specific.

      No, it's *you* specific. Don't presume to speak for the rest of my or her gender.

      Either me or my wife could take money from each other's wallet without permission because the money is ours. Neither of us do without asking unless there's really some pressing need.

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    5. Re:Not black and white issue by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      I know you are probably joking... But just in case, that sounds like a textbook abusive relationship.

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    6. Re:Not black and white issue by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

      This is gender specific.

      No, it's *you* specific. Don't presume to speak for the rest of my or her gender.

      Right, because he just invented/imagined very common gender dynamics, lol Nobody else ever noticed it or joked about it before.

    7. Re:Not black and white issue by networkBoy · · Score: 2

      that sure as shit was my ex's and my relationship.
      In fact, once it became clear she was having an affair and was blowing my earnings on said affair I started taking all my OT pay out in cash and hoarding it... She equivocated that action to theft, even though it was my earnings going to me.

      She *still* thinks she's entitled to my earnings, 5 years on.

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  2. There is harassed and HARASSED by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That difference in expression is clear, there is harassed and HARASSED. So a fly buzzing around your head harasses you, you would not call the police to shoot that fly off your head, especially absolutely not American Law Enforcers who would empty a whole magazine at your head to shoot that fly. Lots of stuff is harassing behaviour, but only some stuff is actually criminal. First question to be asked, is can you simply avoid that harassment, walk away, block someone on the internet, simply avoid the place where harassment occurs. If you can not avoid it and it comes to you, then that ads a capital, like Harassment. Next up is how harmful is the actual harassment, what does it actual entail, harassing someone by walking up to them and beating them versus just shouting at them, obviously add in direct physical contact and that is actual HARASSMENT.

    Then there are question of one versus many. One person acts and you ignore it but tens of thousands act and that is harassing but individually still not harassment, that tends to be the flip side of gaining the public eye. Seek to or accidentally gain the public eye and you could become exposed to group harassment, which is still only minor from their perspective, still individual and subdued but from yours, major, because yeah, that public eye thing is a nasty place, you can lose just as readily as you can win. So avoid the public eye, you you want to avoid public harassment, which upon an individual basis is not actually harassment.

    The onus is always on the individual to avoid harassment because there are places where it 'WILL' occur in real life or on the internet, whether it be flies or people. A measure of sensible response is required, especially for digital harassment where people reach for it, pull it down, get it from the internet and download it into their lives. Simply stop that and the harassment becomes non-existent. Actively seek the harassment, pursue and inflame it, makes you the perpetrator not the victim. Target a group, harassing a group so they harass you back, means you are not the victim you are the perpetrator.

    It must be in your face, inescapable and have a physical nature either in threat or action. Keep in mind criminals feel harassed by the criminal justice system, the police actually do actively harass them, the courts set out to and functionally do harass them and correctional services harass them to reform them. The most harassing entity on the planet is the various third arm of government, the judiciary. So always beware, which harassment is the greater and is the action balanced.

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    1. Re:There is harassed and HARASSED by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      People with a lot of followers online also have some responsibly to avoid harassing people, even if unintentionally. For example, often when some YouTuber makes a video about some random tweet or Facebook post, the result is that some of their hundreds of thousands of viewers will go and harass the author.

      Obviously there is a balance between legitimate criticism and discussion, and the actions of a relative few. But the reality is that most of these videos are just rage-bait, there to make some easy cash from a ten minute unscripted rant to camera. With power comes responsibly and all that.

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  3. Re:We will never have a definition of harassment.. by sound+vision · · Score: 2

    So, let's pretend you are writing the definition for harassment for a social media site - or any context of your choosing. What is the definition?

  4. Re:We will never have a definition of harassment.. by BKX · · Score: 2

    Let's just use a basic "dictionary" definition. Harassment is contacting another person after being asked to stop. One caveat is that politicians cannot ask people to stop contacting them regarding political issues. Another is that people can't ask the general public not to contact them regarding their conduct or speech made in public. To be clear, one has to ask for the particular contact to cease, and then have the contact continue for it to be harassment. Also, harassment can only exist on a person-to-person basis. That is, asking person A and person B to stop contacting you about X does not obligate person C. You cannot blanket tell people to leave you alone about certain topics. You must ask each individual person to stop. Also, the content with which they are contacted is not material.

  5. Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by Kunedog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This response if fairly typical of anything that isn't a clear black and white issue.

    Even then, it's a mistake to assume good faith. Sites like Twitter and Facebook, and the media who one-sidedly covers "harassment," are attempting to outright redefine terms, and it's not out of confusion.

    Disagreement is now harrassment.
    Mockery is now hate speech.
    Offense is now trauma.
    Criticism is now abuse.
    Compelling criticism is now violence.
    Anyone who talks about subjects the MSM wants to suppress is now a troll.
    Anyone at random is a racist/sexist/white supremacist/nazi/etc if they say so.

    The use of this alarmist (and usually, simply wrong) language is ubiquitous and deliberate. It's all a pretense to justify a disproportionate censorial "response," especially when they know no response is warranted at all.

    1. Re: Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by Reverend+Green · · Score: 2

      Cool thing is, these dirty language tricks used to be really effective. But now they've been really overused by the bigmedia and other establishment apologists. So everyone is onto the trick, and it doesn't work anymore.

    2. Re:Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by RedK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's the perpetual victim culture of the alt-right that is trying to redefine everything as harassment

      Uh ?

      Pretty sure that started from the likes of the "Literally whos" of Gamergate, and thus is an left/marxist/feminist thing. Anita Sarkeesian claiming anyone making a response video to her was harassement ring any bells to you ?

      You're rewriting history. Or just attempting to deny the left is responsible for this clusterfuck of "everything is sexist/racist/homophobic" and "anyone who says otherwise is harassing me!"

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      Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
    3. Re:Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Alt-right? No. It is the left. You know, the people who redefined "unintended drunken hook up" as rape? Oh, wait, YOU are on the left so you probably call all alt-right people Nazis while praising someone being hit with a baseball bat for saying something you don't like because free speech is bad. And, when someone doesn't agree with you, you special one of a kind snowflake, you say things like "The alt-right is responsible for what my and my friends have been doing for 30 years."

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    4. Re:Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by RedK · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ever watch the UN video ? "It's the daily grind of you suck, you're a liar". The liar bit is criticism that comes up often, since she in facts lies a lot in her videos. Keep living in your bubble though and ignoring and warping facts. You're no better than anyone else who slandered gamers. The facts are the facts. Sarkeesian, Quinn, Wu often used the harassement card to try to stifle any criticism of their very awful actions and to try to peddle their snake oil. And with their shrieks, it made it hard to discuss any actual ethics conflicts in the gaming press, like the GamejournosPro list. Yes it was about ethics. You don't promote the game of someone you're sleeping with without disclosing said conflict of interest. Leave it to journalists to lie about people trying to reform journalism though. If you're smart, you know the actual truth, not this narrative you keep peddling.

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    5. Re:Escalation of Terms to Justify Censorship by david_thornley · · Score: 2

      Speaking as a leftist...you don't know what you're talking about. Go out and meet some of us sometime, in person.

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  6. It's a sign of powerlessness by johannesg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Being so impossibly sensitive to even the most minor slights is a sign of extreme lack of power. A confident, happy, generally enabled individual simply does not feel harassed by minor slights. He will shrug it off without feeling threatened, because he is above that.

    All those "harassed" people you see on the news are incredibly weak, fragile, meaningless, child-like individuals who have figured out a way to amplify their almost non-existent voices to the point where they can drown out everybody else. They have found a kind of power in showing how incredibly hurt they are, and how unfair they are being treated. And since they don't have any kind of perspective, they believe the world should somehow care about that. They are adults with the minds of toddlers, screaming for their immediate need, but without a parent to put an end to their tantrums.

    As more and more people get fed up with hearing about imagined slights and how bad they hurt, a backlash will inevitably come. At that point, a bit of belated growing up will be in order for all those sad, harassed individuals, as they will finally be taught a few fundamental lessons: the world is not about them, their lives are their own responsibility, being insulted is a choice, and a paper-thin skin is neither a good survival trait, nor a good step towards living a happy, productive life.

  7. chase that ambulance by Reverend+Green · · Score: 2, Funny

    I feel harassed by this article. The Slashdot editors are constantly microaggressing me. Their pattern of abuse has created a toxic work environment, because I often read slashdot while working.

    Where do I sign up to join the lawsuit?

  8. Re:We will never have a definition of harassment.. by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Harassment is the unwanted continuation of contact after being asked to stop. Some special cases apply for certain groups of people in certain professions (like politicians that have to deal with constituents that ask inconvenient questions or celebrities that have to deal with reporters doing the same) or certain circumstances (people having to deal with collection agencies that want their money), but that's pretty much the base line.

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