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Dell's Mobile Connect Application Will Allow Users To Easily Mirror Their Smartphone on PC; To Come Pre-installed On Company's Future PCs (venturebeat.com)

From a report on VentureBeat: Smartphones and computers were designed in different eras, and they don't really work well together, forcing us to split our time between them. But Dell is trying to change that with Dell Mobile Connect software, which makes the two devices more interoperable. [...] You can now make and receive phone calls directly from your computer, and you can also send and receive text messages on your PC screen. This allows you to stay connected on your PC without worrying that you're missing phone notifications or calls. And you can use any Android app on your PC. That allows you to bring your small-screen apps like games to a bigger screen. If your computer doesn't have a touchscreen, you can control the mirrored phone game with a keyboard and mouse. [...] Dell will preload the software on new Dell consumer and business PCs, and it has a free smartphone app that works on either Android or iOS. Dell Mobile Connect will be available on all new Dell Inspiron, XPS, Vostro, or Alienware purchased worldwide in January 2018 or later.

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  1. Who could this possibly be for? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> stay connected on your PC without worrying that you're missing phone notifications or calls

    Who doesn't have their phone beside them or in their pocket when they're working on a computer? Hell, with most multi-factor authentication schemes, the code/approval comes through your phone, so you're screwed if you don't have it with you.

    1. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Funny

      Informative: It's been that way for iOS and Macs for a few years now. Not having to grab your phone to reply to a message is extremely helpful.

      Trolling: Granted it only works for iMessage, but people on Linux/Windows/Android don't matter.

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    2. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      everyone's still playing catch-up to Apple I see :)

    3. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by SeaFox · · Score: 2

      >> stay connected on your PC without worrying that you're missing phone notifications or calls

      Who doesn't have their phone beside them or in their pocket when they're working on a computer?

      Sounds like classic Dell to me. A shovelware solution in search of a problem.

    4. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by pnutjam · · Score: 2, Informative

      KDE connect provides this on Linux. I get the SMS popups when I do 2factor authentication.

    5. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      >> stay connected on your PC without worrying that you're missing phone notifications or calls

      Who doesn't have their phone beside them or in their pocket when they're working on a computer? Hell, with most multi-factor authentication schemes, the code/approval comes through your phone, so you're screwed if you don't have it with you.

      I raise my hand to that question.

      Get home; take trousers off in bedroom (phone still in pocket); go upstairs and get on computer. Now, I could take my phone out of my pocket and carry it upstairs with me, but I typically don't. When I'm home, my phone frequently isn't in the same room as me regardless of whether I'm on the computer or not.

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    6. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> take trousers off in bedroom (phone still in pocket); go upstairs and get on computer

      TMI, my friend. But I see your point. Sometimes I use a laptop in bed, and I don't keep my phone in my bedroom.

    7. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Why should I reply to a text message with my thumbs, when I can use a real keyboard, and a screen big enough to view the entire conversation?

      I have an iPhone and a Macbook, so I can already do this. It is nice, and I use it everyday.

    8. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by BLToday · · Score: 1

      I use this everyday on macOS/iOS. Quicker to reply messages (iMessage/SMS) using a normal keyboard than typing on my phone. A quick FaceTime chat works well too. But I rarely answer a phone call with the Mac because it’s just impolite to put people on speaker without telling them.

    9. Re: Who could this possibly be for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The WhatsApp desktop client also allows Apple users to communicate with their Android using friends and colleagues without switching from their keyboard to their phone!

    10. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I'm home, my phone frequently isn't in the same room as me regardless of whether I'm on the computer or not.

      Have you ever considered getting addicted to a mobile game, like maybe Clash of Clans or something like that? That'll "cure" you of this problem. I, too, used to leave my phone on a table near the front door, but thanks to my game addiction, I always have it (and miss far fewer calls on the weekend).

      Don't worry if you think you don't have time for another fucking game. People are always allowed to go to the bathroom. You'll find time.

      HTH.

    11. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by mattmarlowe · · Score: 1

      Let me count the ways:
      - I hate phones. The frequency that I need to make calls is minimal, and for that, I prefer to use Skype.
      - No, don't call me, but if you must -- odds are it is going to voice mail, where I'll listen to it at my convenience...and yes, likely via skype.
      - No, I don't want to receive any text messages. If something is urgent, I'll check your website -- or you can send me email and I'll see it in an hour or so. If I must have an alert system for important stuff, I'd rather it was integrated with Alexa. Alex does have a notification system and I do have alexa units in most major rooms of my home and, at some point in the future, the car.
      - Phone screens suck, not so much when you are young...but definitely when you get older. And, typing on them is horribly inefficient. If you want to have 2 factor authentication, integrate it with my tablet - Not my phone, and not SMS.
      - Phone batteries suck, I carry my phone with me when I go out the door each day, but the frequency that I use it rather than a tablet is perhaps once/twice a week...and the damn, thing still needs to be charged every day.

    12. Re:Who could this possibly be for? by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 1

      And I have been a Google Voice user for years, which means I can SMS from the desktop Hangouts client quite happily and do so. Bonus; I can do it from any computer with a web browser and don't have to use a Mac for it. It's not just an Apple thing (Android user here)

      I'm not sure I get the use case for this app... or indeed why Dell is limiting it to laptops built in 2018 and onward. There's absolutely no technical reason it can't run on older laptops. Plus, software like that has been available for years.

  2. Hasnâ(TM)t Apple had calls and messaging betw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure about the mouse control thing either. Is this of any practical use?

  3. We're being forced to split our time. by clovis · · Score: 3, Funny

    Smartphones and computers were designed in different eras, and they don't really work well together, forcing us to split our time between them.

    I feel so bad when I'm awakened in the middle of the night, and there's my PC sitting on my chest, demanding a fair share of the time that I had given to my phone.

    1. Re:We're being forced to split our time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Smartphones and computers were designed in different eras, and they don't really work well together, forcing us to split our time between them.

      I feel so bad when I'm awakened in the middle of the night, and there's my PC sitting on my chest, demanding a fair share of the time that I had given to my phone.

      You might want to have an expert check your "PC". Someone may have sold you a cat by mistake.

    2. Re:We're being forced to split our time. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Smartphones and computers were designed in different eras, and they don't really work well together, forcing us to split our time between them.

      I feel so bad when I'm awakened in the middle of the night, and there's my PC sitting on my chest, demanding a fair share of the time that I had given to my phone.

      You might want to have an expert check your "PC". Someone may have sold you a cat by mistake.

      That's the problem with ordering things via Alexa. "Alexa, order me a PC", 2 days later brown cardboard box arrives poked with holes and a Pussy Cat steps out.

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    3. Re:We're being forced to split our time. by n329619 · · Score: 1

      Did they brought it from ebay?

    4. Re:We're being forced to split our time. by clovis · · Score: 1

      Turns out what I thought was my PC on top of me showing a half-dressed woman was actually my wife.
      She saw a roach running around, and it's the male's duty to dispatch any such creatures found in the house ... now.

  4. Make calls and text on your PC? by WankerWeasel · · Score: 2

    So you'll be able to make calls and text on your PC..... like macOS has offered for years? The addition of running Android apps is nice. Though most of the most useful apps have a desktop counterpart that generally offers a better workflow, as it's been designed for use on the desktop.

  5. Don't do it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I do not care what anyone says, your communications are monitored. It just happens - that's the way these systems work.

    And it's all stored.

    I'm a despot wannabe. I'd like to be Stalin^10. And what I see in today's tech, I could do it - if I could get to be POTUS.

    Just say'in.

    1. Re:Don't do it. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      That reptilian bastard Zuckerberg is probably going to try this.

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  6. 3 months from now... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    Dell announces they are stopping support for "Dell Mobile Connect".

  7. No thanks ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dell will preload the software on new Dell consumer and business PCs, and it has a free smartphone app that works on either Android or iOS

    Now there is an absolutely epic security fail in the making ... an application with tethers your phone and PC together, to allow you to control either from the other.

    Which pretty much means a guaranteed attack surface against both of them.

    This positively smacks of a remote exploit which is inevitable.

    And it's more crapware which comes bundled with a PC to make it even slower and more annoying to use.

    I'm sorry, but over and over when companies try to add convenience, they absolutely fuck up both privacy and security.

    1. Re:No thanks ... by forkfail · · Score: 1

      Now there is an absolutely epic product offering in the making ... an application that automatically signs you up for a service that monitors identity theft and restores all your data from the cloud after it's been wiped from your computer and phone.

      FTFY.

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    2. Re:No thanks ... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2

      And the best part is, the cloud host gets to sell it to other people!

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  8. Security ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell it like it is brother !

    Mixing Windows with your phone....what possibly could go wrong?

  9. I have been doing this for years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...On the Mac. I can text to/from anybody on the Mac (or an iPad), I can call/answer calls on the Mac, etc.

    Very handy when you leave your phone in the bedroom, for example, but are at the computer doing something. Simply answer the phone at the computer using the built in mic/speaker.

    I can create a doc on the iPhone. Then come home and edit it on the Mac. Do a final revision and send it from my recliner in a text from the iPad.

    Run a smartphone app (likely in a window) on the computer? That doesn't sound good. Usability issues, security issues, etc. If I want it on a larger screen, I can put it on my TV via AirPlay or HDMI.

    1. Re: I have been doing this for years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you texting your docs? Save them in DropBox/iCloud Drive/OneDrive/etc and theyâ(TM)ll be on your other device before you can get to it anyway, and you donâ(TM)t have multiple copies floating around

    2. Re: I have been doing this for years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just an example of functionality

  10. That's news? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 2

    I have been able to do that with Android phone, via Hangouts, for years. I very seldom use the phone and messaging capabilities of my cell phone provider (T-Mobile) relying instead on the data feed. In fact, if I could have a plan with data alone, I would - keeping the phone/messaging stuff is so obsolete.

    1. Re:That's news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except when you need to communicate with someone who doesn't use "hangouts".

      Or, are you one of those people who refuses to answer their phone?

    2. Re:That's news? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

      Except when you need to communicate with someone who doesn't use "hangouts".

      There are many mechanisms, other than Hangouts, to exchange messages. All those that I need to communicate with use one of them.

      Or, are you one of those people who refuses to answer their phone?

      I only answer the phone when I recognize the number of the incoming call. The rest, leave a message. I never return a call to a number I can't identify, unless the caller leaves a message. I refuse to give my time to unknown individuals at their convenience.

    3. Re:That's news? by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 1

      If you use Google Voice then Hangouts can send/receive SMS messages. It's been this way for years.

  11. What are they thinking? by AlanBDee · · Score: 1

    If history is any indication, this software will definitely work flawlessly, won't open you computer up to additional vulnerabilities, and bosses will love that their employees can now spend more time on faceboook instead of doing, um, you know, that thing they pay you to do.

    I can see this as a great sticker item for consumer PCs, you know, that little sticker that says what it can do but turns out can't, but you don't realize it until after you've bought it. For business PCs this is a huge reason NOT to buy Dell. What are they thinking?

    1. Re:What are they thinking? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      For businesses, you can buy through Dell and have them image it without this crap on there.

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  12. Microsoft already did this by DogDude · · Score: 2
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    1. Re:Microsoft already did this by webnut77 · · Score: 1

      OS: Windows 10 Mobile

      Seriously?

    2. Re:Microsoft already did this by DogDude · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm serious. Did you not see the link?

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    3. Re:Microsoft already did this by webnut77 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I followed the link. Windows 10 mobile, however, is dead. How useful is that?

    4. Re:Microsoft already did this by DogDude · · Score: 1

      A. It's not dead. It works just fine. I'm using it right now.

      B. I was just pointing out that Dell didn't invent this. Microsoft, at least, did, several years ago. Maybe somebody else did it before Microsoft, I don't know.

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  13. KDE connect by pnutjam · · Score: 2

    This sounds identical to KDEconnect, except for Windows.

  14. My phone is always within reach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a solution looking for a problem. Who doesn't have their phone right next to them, especially if their expecting calls? Tell me what kind of data to I send to Dell to harvest if I use this application? Hmm

  15. More surveillance and data collection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds to me like Dell wants in on all the free customer data they've been collecting from people's smartphones for years and years now; just create an app you give away for free with your computers, and scrape all that data directly from the smartphones. Nice job, Dell, wonder how much revenue you'll get from the sales of all that data?

  16. Where's Desktop Elimination? by nealric · · Score: 2

    I've been waiting for things to get to the point that desktop hardware is essentially redundant. Smartphones will be able to easily pair wirelessly to a keyboard/monitor/mouse and switch into desktop mode. One device to rule them all.

    1. Re:Where's Desktop Elimination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've been waiting for things to get to the point that desktop hardware is essentially redundant

      If that happens, it won't be for years to come.

      Sorry, my desktop is an 8-core/16GB RAM unit with several TB of attached storage and two fairly big displays attached.

      Not only can't a mobile OS provide me with that level of resources, the OS itself is incapable of replacing a desktop.

      I own both Android and iOS devices, and neither is up to the task of replacing my desktop, and both are a LONG way away from it.

      Eventually they may get there, but at present, the mobile OS's are too stripped down, the hardware is too small, and the OS itself hasn't been designed to do this. At present, the mobile OS would need to essentially morph into the full blown OS it wants to replace.

      Your work may be something which can reduce to what you can do on a smart phone, but for many of us, it simply isn't happening.

      Despite claims to the contrary, neither the hardware nor the OS are anywhere NEAR being able to replace a desktop machine.

    2. Re:Where's Desktop Elimination? by jezwel · · Score: 1
      You missed the part where you run terminal services / VCD and have the full power of whatever you are connected to displayed via your phone to your connected high-res monitor. I'm quite positive you can rent more cores/ram/storage from a cloud service at a cheap price when you need it.
      Nvidia is releasing their game streaming service with a dedicated GPU per user so even that is getting closer.
      If I can stream from my steam-playing gaming device to my dock-connected mobile device that's pretty much the same thing. Sure it may not be quite as quick as local services, but it's a pretty large step forward.

      When Samsung update their Dex dock firmware to support >1080p external monitors I'll give it another crack.They should look at display port chaining too for multiple displays, but I guess they're already working on that.

      tl:dr
      There are plenty of current use cases where a desktop can be replaced with a docked mobile device.

    3. Re:Where's Desktop Elimination? by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Sorry, my desktop is an 8-core/16GB RAM unit with several TB of attached storage and two fairly big displays attached.

      You are not a typical user. The typical user needs a browser, email, a selection of streaming apps and some casual games.

      Any smartphone on the market will easily fulfill those requirements.

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    4. Re:Where's Desktop Elimination? by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      The world does not revolve around you.

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    5. Re:Where's Desktop Elimination? by Big+Bipper · · Score: 1

      You can order a Librem 5 from Purism that will do this. Its main purpose is privacy and security, but is essentially a Linux computer in a phone form factor. https://videos.puri.sm/promo/l...

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  17. Nokia by ebonum · · Score: 1

    I've been doing most this with my Nokia since when? 2002? As long as my phone holds up I'll b

  18. "If I could have a plan with data alone" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both Tello and Ting will let you do that. You can configure a plan with data only and no phone (or SMS) service. I think you still get E911 service and will receive Emergency Alerts though because those are required by Federal law.

  19. Wrong philosophy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... receive phone calls directly from your computer ...

    Bluetooth has offered this for several years: Connect the phone to the PC and any calls automatically play through the PC headphone/mic set.

    ... send and receive text messages on your PC ...

    While I prefer a PC UI over a fiddly phone, I do not want my PC having continuous access to the contacts list and communication logs from my phone. There was a time when tel-cos offered SMS via an internet gateway, eliminating the need for a continuous connection to the phone.

    ... any Android app on your PC ...

    While a mouse provides accuracy, fingers are faster, so many games aren't usable on a PC. Plus, last I looked, emulators were incompatible with many games.

    ... don't really work well together ...

    Treating the PC as another phone doesn't solve the data-update problem. Good applets have a desktop version which can be synced with the handset: That's what really matters. Running the same OS just brings Android problems to the PC: Providing every service with its own API ensures security (eg. cloud storage) until it is avoided. It also means every applet having the same bug (eg. Google Calendar: Version 12 and still can't sync properly).

  20. Pre-Installed Software by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

    Dell will preload the software on new Dell consumer and business PCs.

    Oh, great. One more piece of pre-installed software I need to uninstall. Honestly, fire up any new computer from Dell, HP, you name it - the number of programs running in the background before you even start any of your own applications is mind-boggling. It's like if you bought a brand new car and they loaded the trunk full of sand before you left the lot.

    I think at one time Alienware was know for not doing this, but they've been purchased by Dell so I don't know if they're any better now.

  21. Dell missed the train by n329619 · · Score: 1

    Three years ago. You can already remote your smartphone with an app, doing nearly everything they said they want the app to do.

    1. Re:Dell missed the train by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Here's another method also: https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/fully-control-your-android-device-from-any-computer-0164097/

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  22. The telemarketers view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I only answer the phone when I recognize the number of the incoming call. The rest, leave a message. I never return a call to a number I can't identify, unless the caller leaves a message. I refuse to give my time to unknown individuals at their convenience.

    We telemarketers appreciate you and thank you. Not having to waste time on people not susceptible to our scams greatly increases our efficiency in the number of calls we can make per hour. (We need to make a lot of calls to find the rubes.)

    Our problem (listed in order of increasing difficulty) is people who

    1) Answer but slam down the phone immediately, w or w/o profanity, it all takes time.

    2) Even worse are those who hem and haw trying to find a way to politely end the call, these can take several min for the non-prospect to get off the line.

    3) The bane of our existence: those who feign interest to tie us up, asking many questions then telling us about how Aunt Agnes bought one and ... Some of these assholes have kept us on the line for 15 min before laughing at us. Hell we could have made 50 calls in that time!

  23. So much for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My BlackBerry. Sigh.