Microsoft: We're Not Giving Up On Cortana (Even In Home Automation) (zdnet.com)

Microsoft is trying to fight back against perceptions that Cortana may be its next consumer-centric technology to face the chopping block. Yesterday, the company issued a press release touting recent wins for Cortana. Among these are the officially unveiled Johnson Controls' Cortana-powered thermostat (which goes on sale for $319 starting in March). ZDNet reports the "other recent Cortana device partners": Allwinner: This company has the Tech R16 Quad Core IoT solution (a reference design for device partners).
Synaptics: This ODM (original design manufacturer) and far-field voice processing vendor produces reference designs for consumer IoT, smart speakers, PC, and more that integrate Cortana.
TONLY: Another reference design vendor working with Microsoft on Cortana devices that make use of Skype.
Qualcomm: In addition to partnering with Microsoft on Windows-on-ARM "Always Connected" PCs, Qualcomm is building reference designs on its Smart Audio and Mesh Networking platforms that use Cortana. "In addition to our currently supported home automation partners, we are announcing new partnerships with Ecobee, Geeni, Honeywell Lyric, IFTTT, LIFX, TP-Link Kasa, and Honeywell Total Connect Comfort. Cortana currently supports lights, outlets, switches, and thermostats across all providers," the spokesperson said.

Comments

Cortana?

[youngone]

Would that be the thing that says "I'm afraid I'm not available to help in your region"?

Re: Cortana?

[mark-t]

So Canada's a 3rd world country now?

Good to know.

Re:Cortana?

[beuges]

Exactly. Instead of coming up with all this gimmicky stuff like voice-controlled thermostats, they should rather focus their energy on making the service available to everyone on Windows 10. MS has an infuriating habit of going overboard with features for en-US and treating the rest of the world as an afterthought.

The current availability of Cortana's services is pitiful. It is constantly hyped about new features that have been added (they even got it to speak Klingon), yet for most of the world, it's a glorified interface to Bing.

Years ago, before Win10 was officially released, and when Cortana was first being developed, I read an interview with one of the high-ups in the Cortana project, who said that they were really keen on making it available in an alpha state to as many users as possible, as the key way to train it properly to work in different regions and cultures is to expose it to as much input as possible. That never happened, and the list of supported countries and regions is the same as when I last looked at it over a year ago.

If Cortana's uptake is struggling, it's purely because they limited the user-base themselves to a market that's already invested in Siri, Alexa and Google Now, instead of entrenching its use in the regions where the other players aren't yet fully available. I also believe that's the real reason that Windows Phone failed as well. They did very badly in the US market because iPhones and Android were both already entrenched, but there were a lot of other regions where WP did really well despite the lack of attention from MS. So naturally, instead of solidifying their market position in those regions, they continued ignoring them and focusing on the US where they had already lost the battle, and eventually lost support from the regions which actually had it. Then Joe Belfiore complains that they had no support from developers, ignoring the fact that there's a huge number of developers outside of the US who were hesitant to invest in a platform that MS themselves showed no interest in supporting for their markets.

TL;DR: MS needs to abandon this habit of region-locking features, and then complaining that people aren't supporting or using those features.

Re: Cortana?

[youngone]

Fortunately for me the third world shithole I live in doesn't require me to declare bankruptcy if I happen to become ill.

We also don't seem to have access to this Cortana thing, so we also have that going for us.

Re:Cortana?

[kamapuaa]

The current availability of Cortana's services [microsoft.com] is pitiful

Clicked on that link and actually it's pretty good. It covers like 80%+ of the world's population, and includes all the top 10 countries by economy. It's hardly universal but I would call the list very solid.

Cortana sucks, don't get me wrong, but that's not the reason why.

Easy to solve

[Tablizer]

Just include MS-Bob, and put it on a Zune running in a Pocket PC.

Users: We're not giving up on removing Cortana

[Anonymous Coward]

The users are trying to fight back against perceptions that Cortana may be Microsoft's next consumer-centric technology they are forced to use. Yesterday, the users issued a statement touting recent advances in preventing Cortana from functioning. Among these are the officially unveiled "Cortana-b-gon registry hack" (which prevents Cortana from running after significant Windows updates).

ZUNE?

[hduff]

Will Cortana work on my Zune?

Clippy will never Die!

[WillAffleckUW]

Oh, wait, I meant Cortana.

Re: FP

[tripleevenfall]

I'm sorry, I'm afraid I'm not able to mod parent up in your region.

How much?

[Major_Disorder]

How much do I NOT want a $319 Cortana powered thermostat? I would tell you, but I can't even think of anything to compare it to. It might actually be the thing I want least in the world.
I just replaced my thermostat a few months ago, it cost me about $50 and allowed me to program in different temperatures at different times of day, and day of the week. It wasn't even the cheapest on available either.
I cant imagine that being able to verbally tell the thermostat to set the temperature one degree higher is going to be worth and additional $269. Especially since my thermostat is in the hall, a good distance from where I usually am.

Re:So much DRAMA !

[vux984]

Agreed. I run windows 10 on most of my pcs at home and at work. (not all. I do have linux and my laptop is OSX) but most of my systems are 10.

It can be tamed to be reasonable pretty easily. But it's inexcusable that they've gone so far out of the way to make those settings in-accessible. Group policy editor + service manager + powershell?!! When you used to be able to change the cortana setting that controlled whether it searched the web right in the cortana settings gear in cortana?

That's some pretty arrogant bullshit.

over for us

[sdinfoserv]

Maybe M$soft isn't finished with Cortana, but we have. We disable it via policies on all network connected devices. Pretty pointless in the office.

That's what I wanted.

[roc97007]

A $319 thermostat. So that I can use Cortana.

where is MS home entertainment?

[kiviQr]

Is there a vision in MS ecosystem for the home entertainment??? MS had everything to rule home media! But Cortana cannot even play music from my PC - complete joke (keeps moving from Grove music, iHeart radio, spotify - more jokes).