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Samsung Will Unveil the Galaxy S9 Next Month At Mobile World Congress (theverge.com)

Samsung will unveil its next flagship handset, the Galaxy S9, next month at Mobile World Congress (MWC). DJ Koh, the company's smartphone chief, confirmed the launch to ZDNet at CES yesterday without offering a specific date. The Verge reports: The S9 (and, presumably, an S9 Plus) will be the successors to the S8 and S8 Plus, which launched at a Samsung event in New York last March before going on sale in April. The S8 and its bigger brother were a hit with critics, who praised the phones' gorgeous design and brilliant cameras. The phones were even good enough to make consumers forget about the disaster of the Galaxy Note 7 and its exploding batteries. Not much is known about the Galaxy S9 at this point, though we're not expecting any radical departures from the S8. A handful of leaked renders suggest it will look near-identical to its predecessor, with a slight tweak moving the rear fingerprint sensor to below the camera (rather than its current, awkward position of off to one side).

55 comments

  1. Why do we have a mobile world congress? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    Who elected them? Is there an app for that?

    1. Re: Why do we have a mobile world congress? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as Samsung continues to lock down its bootloaders, I will never buy another phone from them.

    2. Re: Why do we have a mobile world congress? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      Oh no! However will they survive after losing ones of sales?!

    3. Re:Why do we have a mobile world congress? by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

      Ironically since they're all carrying Samsung Galaxy phones, the members of this Congress's pants actually ARE on fire.

    4. Re: Why do we have a mobile world congress? by null+etc. · · Score: 1

      Their board of directors will launch an inquiry to find out why that one sale was lost, and then subsequently modify all of their future business plans and product roadmaps to never lose that one sale again. Or, at least that's what I would do, if I was a multi-billion dollar international powerhouse.

  2. Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I suppose by ffkom · · Score: 2

    Samsung might build some fast chips and nifty sensors into its devices, but I have not bought one since they got...
    - too big, I want a phone, not a tablet
    - too brittle, the phone has to survice falling down, and I sure don't need a "frameless" display made for breaking
    - no more user replaceable battery - I refuse to buy any such device, and still run happily a many years old phone that now has its 3rd generation of battieries in use

    Wake me up when phone makers build something better, again.

  3. X is where it's at by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    X gon' give it to ya

    1. Re:X is where it's at by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call it what you want to call it, you're a fuckin alcoholic. Ain't gotta put no extras on it.

  4. Typical. Just when I got the hang of my S3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The upgrade hamster wheel is insane!

    1. Re:Typical. Just when I got the hang of my S3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man i keep saying im gonna upgrade to S3. Still using an i-5800 which seems to keep chugging along fine.

  5. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by vux984 · · Score: 3, Informative

    So buy a Galaxy Rugby or something.

    I mean, or don't, its not like you "should" by Samsung vs a MotoG a whatever else. But its not like they don't make a phone that meets your stated requirements.

  6. Superfag Kendall will reveal his colon to anyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump supporting nazis get in free, there's shilling to be done!

  7. Slashdot still had to "rub it in..." by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    Talking about the Galaxy S7s...

    The phones were even good enough to make consumers forget about the disaster of the Galaxy Note 7 and its exploding batteries.

    Slashdot...really! You folks still had to make sure you rub it in. We moved on long ago. Why even raise this point at this time?

    Jeeez...!!

    1. Re:Slashdot still had to "rub it in..." by iggymanz · · Score: 1, Funny

      could you repeat the last two sentences, the dull roar of Galaxy 7s with unreplaced batteries exploding in the background drowned you out.

  8. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by ffkom · · Score: 1

    Thanks for this information, never heard about he "Galaxy Rugby" before. Actually looks not bad, apart from the ancient Android (does it run Lineage?). But: It does not seem to be sold anywhere in Europe. If someone knows a reseller in the EU, please tell me.

  9. Phablets for Sheeple - the rest want a small fatty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great another fragile, thin phablet for the fashion followers.

    But why will no manufacturer bring us the USEFUL, ROBUST, LONGLIFE, SMALL, FAT phone, that can sit safely in our back pockets ?

    4" screen, 0.5" thick, with a good processor and big battery.

    WHY IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK ?

    Captcha: "fitting" in my back jeans pocket without snapping.

  10. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    I replaced by S5 with a LG V20. It's actually a great phone.

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  11. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by viperidaenz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Or a Galaxy Xcover 4. Removable battery, Android 7, LTE, IP68, MIL-STD-810G compliant

    Instead of whining and complaining about lack of choice when a new flagship phone is announced, perhaps you could look at the entire range. Makes you look like a retard.

  12. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by vux984 · · Score: 2

    ok... looks like the rugby's available are old stock, that would explain the difficulty getting it and the old android version. Guess its been a few years since I looked at them.

    Samsung's successor looks to be something like the S8 Active, which hits a lot of your specs... although the battery may not be replaceable. It is pretty waterproof though.

    I watched a video on the replacement process..
    http://www.topmobilereviews.or...

    Its not bad, and I've done harder repairs. Plus where I live the little cellphone shops will replace the battery in most phones while you wait for an extra few bucks. So for me, a replaceable battery isn't as crucial.

    Plus the new batteries and phones are simply much better. My S3 to S5 was like night and day as the S3 barely got through a day, and then my S5 to S7 was another big step, where the S5 comfortably got a day, the S7 usually gets me close to 2 days. So my need for replaceable batteries and battery replacements has dropped off a cliff. But that's me...

    That said, if replacing the battery is your #1 feature, there are other phones from other makers that would be better.

  13. Re:Phablets for Sheeple - the rest want a small fa by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    Samsung do one with a 5" screen but it's only 0.38" thick
    https://www.gsmarena.com/samsu...
    You didn't even have to ask, they already made it.

    If you don't mind the bigger screen Samsung have also done a S5 Active, S6 Active, S7 Active and an S8 Active. All supposed to be rugged phones.
    They're the same phone inside as their plain Galaxy Sx's except a little bigger, with a bigger battery too and shock proof.

  14. Re:Phablets for Sheeple - the rest want a small fa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would you ever, _ever_ put a phone (or anything really) of any size in a back pocket?

  15. Nobody cares. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It will be exactly the same as all the last models. More powerful, bigger screen, less battery, less thickness for absolutely no reason, more pointless gimmicks-du-jour that nobody needs or wants, and more restrictions, data snorkeling privacy robbery, and dumbing down to uselessness.

    I'll get a brick. It will literally be better.

    (I already have a chinese smartphone with a replacable battery and enough room and contacts to put in foreign batteries too. So I will likely not need anything else for the next 10-20 (yes, twenty) years.

    1. Re:Nobody cares. by ELCouz · · Score: 1

      (I already have a chinese smartphone with a replacable battery and enough room and contacts to put in foreign batteries too.

      Yeah, enjoy your phoning home cheap Chinese phone. People really don't value much their security over cheap price?

  16. No manufacturer?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You're in for a world of wonders, my friend!

    There are many, MANY small Chinese firms, filling every possible corner of the market and serving every special interest.
    You *will* find precisely what you look for. No compromises needed. Probably at a quarter of the cost of a Samsung/Apple.

    I found precisely what I needed in a Blackview BV6000 a year ago. Might not be your thing, but is perfectly fits my every wish, full stop.

    Seriously ... go and find your perfect fit.

    1. Re:No manufacturer?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope.
      There are NO decent small phones as described above: "4" screen, 0.5" thick, with a good processor and big battery."
      The Rugby mentioned above was close, but it runs Android 4 and there is no new version.

      Manufacturers only want to sell us big, fragile phones that won't sit safely in our pockets.
      I wonder why.

    2. Re:No manufacturer?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. I can't find what I want. Small screen, good specs, large battery, reliable Android update. All the phones I've seen with a small screen also have rubbish specs.

      Is there anything decent with a 4.5-4.7" screen? The last phone I bought I had to settle for a 5" screen, but it is bigger than I am comfortable with.

    3. Re:No manufacturer?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess there must still be some Sony Zperia Z Mini Compact X? Whatever it's called.
      iPhone SE, if you're a transexual muslim vegetarian with pink dyed hair.

    4. Re:No manufacturer?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, same AC here. They've made the Sony XZ1 compact. Only 2700 mAh but it's got a 720p screen! While the specs are sharks with lasers (if you put a good micro SD in)
      And past ones have been able to run even the non Android OSes.

      You pay a fair bit but a bit less than garbage like S8, Pixel etc.

  17. Re:Phablets for Sheeple - the rest want a small fa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would you ever, _ever_ put a phone (or anything really) of any size in a back pocket?

    For the same reason you put dicks in your backdoor.

  18. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    1) I thought from browsing in stores Samsung had something about the size of the iPhone X - that to be is the best compromise, still pretty tall so you get a lot of content, but nit as wide as the widest phones. Ijn fact I though the Note was the really huge one and the S( would be the intermediate size.

    2) They don't break as easily as you think, but you can always add a case (I use the iPhone X without a case, it's fine).

    3) I don't quite get you here, just because there is no hatch does not mean you cannot replace a battery. mMy wife has been on iPhones that went through at least two battery changes over a number of years...

    And you really could replace it yourself, too - there are a lot of kits to do so. Since you only have to do it about every two years I don't mind taking it in though.

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  19. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by jemmyw · · Score: 1

    I've tried a few smartphones over the years, several android and one iphone. The samsung s7 edge I've got now has been by far the best. I've had it since June 2016, it still feels fast (unlike my other androids did) and it still retains enough battery for 1.5 days of moderate use. I've had no reason to think about flashing a custom rom due to it retaining performance and the interface being fine. Previously I had an LG G3 which had a removable battery and what shit show that thing was.

  20. hope for a good device by gravewax · · Score: 1

    I hope it is a good phone otherwise I will just have to go get a new battery for my s7. My work supplied phone plan lets me trade for a new model but I like my s7 with its "obsolete" audio jack, so will need to be something good to make me swap.

    1. Re:hope for a good device by torkus · · Score: 1

      Protip: Galaxy 8 series all have headphones jacks too.

      Samsung has indicated that they plan to keep the jack as well. At least they listen to customers!

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  21. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by kriston · · Score: 1

    Now that the Active line has OLED screens they're really good phones.

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  22. Galaxy S9 Battery by WindowsStar · · Score: 1

    I sincerely hope that Samsung will make this phone where you can get to the battery and remove it. My S7 is a great phone but when it locks up or has some major issue I have to wait until the battery dies on it's own which could be up to 2 days in my case. One day it locked up so bad that I could not power it off and I had just charged it. The phone was locked and I could not do anything it was frozen. I had to wait 2 days until the battery died! Stupid design not to be able to remove the battery. On top of that the battery is not really dead so I have to keep turning it on over and over and over until it really kills the battery. Then I leave it for few hours and try turning it on over an over. Once it is truly dead, I then charge it all the way and the phone works perfectly for a long time. Just rebooting it never fixes it and trying to power it off and on never fixes it because the phone NEVER really powers completely off. Removing the battery is essential.

    1. Re:Galaxy S9 Battery by torkus · · Score: 1

      You're unlikely to see that. Adding a removable back (and battery) significantly increases the complexity and reduces the durability of a phone. And...the added space it takes reduces battery capacity. You can get a battery swapped for a very reasonable fee these days so there's little reason to really cry over it.

      Now, offer me a phone that's 1mm thicker and has 25% extra battery and I'd be all over it. TBH they're more likely to do that then make a removable battery.

      Besides, who carries around loose LiPo batteries anyhow? You're practically asking for it to get shorted out and assplode. Of all the phones I've had, the last time i remember actually having and using spare batteries was ... old nokias...maybe 2160 or 8910 or something like that. Through the entire blackberry era, I might have swapped for a charged battery a few times (and this being in IT support with ready access to them). While my use case might not match everyone, I fail to see how having a spare battery vs. battery pack is a huge difference if you really need more power.

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  23. Samsung has crappy cameras by Per+Wigren · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why people like the newer Samsung Galaxy cameras. They take mediocre pictures, then slam a ton of software post processing on them to make them look unnaturally sharp. Try taking a picture of a jar with tiny text, then try to read that text on the photo. With the S4, even though it has fewer megapixels and looks more blurry at first sight you can see the words and read the text. With the S7 and S8, it is impossible to read the text, the letters are just a sharp black mess. Also, fish-eye selfie camera is an asinine idea.

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    1. Re:Samsung has crappy cameras by torkus · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the "my phone camera is equal to a DSLR" age. It's not, by any means, true but it is still far better than not having any pictures at all (for lack of a camera).

      If you want super quality imaged, break out the photo gear. If you want idiot-proof (well, almost) images taken anywhere and everywhere you go? well...that's what you get.

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  24. Pre-announcing the announcing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey BeauHD - Slashdot is supposed to be a news site. There is literally no information about anything in the summary, or the article, other than the basic premise that a company that makes mobile phones may announce a new mobile phone at an event about mobile phones, attended by people in the mobile phone industry.

    I'm absolutely overwhelmed.

    In your next posting, are you going to tell us that the sun will once again rise tomorrow, and that water is still among the wettest substances on Earth?

  25. Re:Phablets for Sheeple - the rest want a small fa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Before you had heard of smartphones, I had been keeping my Palm Treo safely in my back jeans pocket for several years.
    It never broke.
    The massive phones we are forced to buy now are not the only solution.
    Don't be so blind.

  26. Re:Phablets for Sheeple - the rest want a small fa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wrote: "4" screen, 0.5" thick, with a good processor and big battery."

    You replied: "Samsung do one with a 5" screen but it's only 0.38" thick"

    Good work.

    Captcha: "Contrary"

  27. Re: Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I sup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They don't sell the entire range here. Soonit will be that if you want a Samsung you wwon't be able to easily replace the battery

  28. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    I will second the Moto G.

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  29. S8+ - I upgraded. But why? by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

    I upgraded to an s8+ while it was all brand new. Still probably the most powerful handset on the market. It cost a cool $850 or so at the time. I was moving up from my Priv. Yet I can honestly say that I use probably less than 1% of it's feature capacity. I send text messages. I use calendar features and set alarms. I use navigation. I use it for dual factor authentication. Sometimes I ask a question. Occasionally as a hotspot. But still its primary function is as my primary but not sole dual factor enabling device.

    Perhaps I am getting old, but I dream of a phone that sits between feature phone and not quite smartphone.

    I miss my BB classic. If I could have any phone I wanted, it would be a BB classic with a modern processor, 4 gigs of ram, a top notch camera... and... that's about it except to point out that BB 10 would still have to be the OS. It is a shame that such a great OS was shelved and is metaphorically collecting dust. In fact, I could still easily get by with a classic to the point where i have to resist the temptation to buy one after market. The deal breaker is the camera. I actually use that for business and need the resolution for both pictures and video. It is a small enough device that I would in fact shell out quite a lot for some kinda case that introduces a bluetooth connected, high quality camera as long as it had its own battery.

    Just rambling over morning coffee.

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    1. Re:S8+ - I upgraded. But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Perhaps I am getting old, but I dream of a phone that sits between feature phone and not quite smartphone.
      I'm the same way. I loved the old Windows Phones (esp WP7) that sat neatly in that niche, but not nearly enough other people did. So now I have an s8 active with 6 -7 apps on the launcher screen, and I'm reasonably happy. But not has happy as I was with my old Samsung WP7 phone, sadly.

    2. Re:S8+ - I upgraded. But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got an S8, and the hardware is just really impressive. This phone and your S8+ should last 5 - 10 years with the minimal use case you've got. The problem is your minimal use case doesn't match very many other people - some but not enough for a mass market device. You've got to have common hardware to build at scale. At least with the S8, the hardware is powerful enough to handle everything you and I use, but also Tom, Bob, Sue, etc, etc, etc. They can all have different "killer" features and they're probably in scope.

  30. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You come out looking like an asshole for defending a corporation from reasonable criticism. If consumers don't criticize flagships, then when one removes the headphone jack the rest will just do the same. Backlash leads to change (sometimes). Removable batteries, phones that are expensive but built to break, that shit is infuriating. "Oh you can get that stuff removed if you buy their less successful generation-behind-technology phone" is not an answer. And even if it was, how long do you think it will remain so? Rolling over and just taking what our corporate overlords deliver is just pathetic.

  31. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by iampiti · · Score: 1

    Capt obvious here: Lengthening the battery life is good but does nothing to help the problem of batteries holding less charge over time. In the end a battery replacement is still necessary if you want to use the same phone for more than 2 years.
    I personally keep my phones until they break so having user replaceable batteries is something I value a lot.

  32. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by iampiti · · Score: 1

    Call nitpicker or something, but it would be nice if there was a Samsung S9 whatever that was similar to the regular Sx but had a replaceable battery.
    Maybe they think it would hurt the Galaxy S brand or confuse some people.

  33. My Requirements. by ponraul · · Score: 1

    Removable Battery, MicroSD card, and Waterproofing. If it doesn't have those, I'm not buying it. I don't want an iPhone. I'll gladly sidegrade to a chinese phone that does those at half the price if you won't give those to me.

  34. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by vux984 · · Score: 1

    "Capt obvious here: Lengthening the battery life is good but does nothing to help the problem of batteries holding less charge over time. In the end a battery replacement is still necessary if you want to use the same phone for more than 2 years."

    That's just it, no you don't. Because my S3 barely made it through a day when it was brand new, it needed a new battery the 2nd year, before my contract with it was even over, the loss of half an hour meant I wasn't even getting through the work day, let alone having any charge in the evening.

    Because the S5 comfortably lasted a day and half or so, even losing a couple hours hasn't been an issue, its over 4 years old now and my wife is using it; on the original battery, and it's still fine because it still easily lasts the full day and beyond. So, by lasting longer its directly address the need for replacement.

    And the S7 is even better.

    "I personally keep my phones until they break..."

    Sure. Me too at least if you count 'hand me downs' within the family. But its at the point now, where I might have to replace one battery one time after 4-5 years to get another 4-5 years, that's easily the device life.

    "having user replaceable batteries is something I value a lot."

    And that's just it, why? As long as its not a ridiculous project to replace, then it it's an hour of your time the one or two times you replace it, or it costs $10-15 have the guy you bought it from replace it for you while you wait in 15 minutes.

    Why should you put a lot of value on being able to swap a battery? If its something you'll do once every 4 years and costs $10-15 bucks... its just not that big of a deal.

    Sure if you run through multiple batteries a day, that's one thing. (But there are external power packs and battery-cases that probably would suit you better if that's your need.)

    But if you are demanding user replaceable batteries and dramatically limitting your choice of phones, just to save $10 four years from now? That doesn't really make a ton of sense.

  35. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are 100% correct. Cell phone manufacturers have been foisting a degraded product for the last few years as their "flagship" product. A bezel-less all-glass design just means an almost guaranteed cracked screen or back. The lack of swappable batteries means everyone is dragging around extra cables and chargers, and dealing with ever worsening charge capacity. Manufacturers claim it enables the creation of slick, thin phones. Yet most people put them in thick cases, negating the supposed reason for doing it. Of course the real reason is to insure planned obsolescence.

    It just shows the power of marketing style over substance.

  36. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by iampiti · · Score: 1

    It's nice that your current phone doesn't need a battery replacement after a couple of years but I'd rather have the option because I don't know if mine will.
    Also, the battery being replaceable even by a repair shop it's not a given. Given the direction the industry is taking of making phones harder and harder to take apart I'll not be surprised if there're some in which it's impossible to replace without breaking the thing apart.
    Of course I'm not gonna but a horrible phone just because the battery is easy replaceable at some point I might have to cave in. It's just a preference like having a headphone jack or expandable memory

  37. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by vux984 · · Score: 1

    "It's nice that your current phone doesn't need a battery replacement after a couple of years but I'd rather have the option because I don't know if mine will."

    At some point though, its like insisting your car should still have a manual crank start because you don't trust the battery + starter motor.

  38. Re:Big, brittle, with irreplacable battery, I supp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seen that actually on a car from 1966. Was weird to see this on such a "recent" car, I didn't know the hole for the crank was on any car after WW2.
    But anyhow all cars have a replaceable battery.

    On a phone though there is at least simplicity : the SIM slots and SD slot are below the battery or next to it. On a sealed phone? Fuck, where are them! You have to find secret doors.