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Ecuador Grants Citizenship To WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange (cbsnews.com)
hcs_$reboot writes: Ecuador has granted citizenship to Julian Assange, who has been holed up inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London for over five years. Quito, Ecuador, has said naturalization should provide Assange with another layer of protection. However, naturalization appeared to do little to help the Australian-born WikiLeaks founder's case, with the British foreign ministry stressing that the only way to resolve the issue was for "Assange to leave the embassy to face justice." Earlier on Thursday, Britain said that it had refused a request by Ecuador to grant Assange diplomatic status, which would have granted him special legal immunity and the right to safe passage under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.
Couldn't Ecuador officially employ him as an ambassador, now that he is a citizen? If the UK doesn't like his role as an ambassador, they can always kick him out of the country.
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But first they need to locate an Ecuadoran bris kit.
Glad to see it. This would have set an uncomfortable precedent of granting a wanted criminal the freedom to roam around the country he is wanted in. Diplomatic immunity status shouldn't be able to be granted after a crime has been committed.
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Why should Assange have safe passage? Those women he assaulted thought they had a safe passage.
He's an anti-American piece of shit on the wrong side of history who put Drumpf's finger on the button. Fuck Assange, I hope he rots in that little room, he has destroyed America.
The UK is right to refuse ambassadorship for Assange. If people accused of crimes in a foreign countries could be granted diplomatic immunity once they've been accused, it would be a massive loophole. Anyone charged with a crime in a foreign country could be granted ambassadorship and given a get out of jail free card. If you believe the charges are unjust, then argue they ought to be dropped. Don't use loopholes to try to escape facing justice, because this can easily be abused.
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Releasing leaks handed to him is what Wikileaks does, that's one thing. But he then added a lot of fake stuff himself, and became party to the game.
Remember his denials that the leaks came from Russia? Yet we even know how and who the Russians did the hack and CIA identified the specific order from Putin. Yet he repeated the Seth Rich claim, he repeated the fake Pizzagate claims too, which in turn led to this: Assange's Internet link was severed by 'state party' as he put it. Except the state party in question turned out to be the Equador Embassy, who cut his connection because they agree the non-interference in elections rule, and Assange was pumping out a mass of fake news from the Russian fake news factory and clearly trying to influence the election.
IMHO, this is the best time Assange will ever have to walk out of the Embassy. The UK charge is minor, and Trump can pardon him for any US crime planned. There's a bunch of potential pardons for Trump, Jared has lied about the Trump Tower meeting with Russian intelligence, and he will be pardoned no doubt, James Alex Fields, Manasfort etc. what's one more. But first he has to push the matter to get charged first and he has to do it within a fairly short timespace.
and so maybe recoup cost of the free bed & board that they have been giving him for a few years.
Not in the UK.
What they need to do, I think, is sneak him out with some sort of large diplomatic package, which would grant him safe passage to Ecuador.
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UK is a totally fucked up country !
A lot of other people who committed a lot more sinister crimes, and are wanted in other countries, are roaming freely inside UK
Those people have been accused of committing murder, terrorism, running criminal gangs, human trafficking, corruption, et cetera, et cetera, and yet, UK grants them total freedom
Assange? He has been accused of 'rape', of a woman who served him the morning after the 'rape' supposed to occur
The accusation has been proven to be a trumped up charge, made by the sinister regime of Sweden
Even the woman who supposed to accuse Assange of raping her has publicly stated that she does not think Assange is guilty
UK is a totally fucked up country
Neither is what Assange was wanted for "questioning over" in Sweden.
The women in Sweden have repeatedly said that no rape was commited, and that they were shocked when people higher up in the police turned it into a manhunt and rape case.
He's not wanted for questioning. There's a warrant out for his arrest - the interrogation is the last stage before he is charged.
https://www.newstatesman.com/b...
What has become clear is that the Swedish approach to criminal proceedings is different from that of England or other common law jurisdictions. The interrogation requested takes place at a late stage, just before prosecution. Assange is thereby not required for mere questioning - indeed, he was questioned on 31 August 2010.
And he's accused of rape - UK courts have ruled that what he is accused of doing in Sweden would be rape if he did it in the UK. Which is a key part of extradition being granted.
4. Rape
On 17 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [SW] in Enkoping, Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep. was in a helpless state.
It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange. who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used. still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party's sexual integrity."
The High Court held that the test of "dual criminality" was met in respect of each of these offences: they were offences in both England and Sweden.
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And he's accused of rape - UK courts have ruled that what he is accused of doing in Sweden would be rape if he did it in the UK.
So, the UK doesn't respect women. No surprise there. The Swedish police said there was no case. The woman in question stopped talking to the police after a different police department decided to prosecute a rape case. She didn't report a rape, she wanted help forcing him to get an STD test.
there's an interesting take on the Assange being SUCCESSFULLY granted diplomatic immunity 'as a diplomatic member of the Ecuador embassy staff',
it seems that Chess is being played with this particular political football
at least according to British ambassador Murray:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/01/ecuador-and-assange/ {blog website} / {beware of many sock-puppets}
"It is for the government of Ecuador, not the UK, to determine who is an Ecuadorian citizen. It is for the government of Ecuador, not the UK, to determine who is an Ecuadorian diplomat.
It is not in the least unusual for Julian Assange to become an Ecuadorian citizen. Having been granted political asylum, and having lived for over five years under Ecuadorian jurisdiction, naturalisation is a perfectly normal step. There are a great many refugees in this country who are now naturalised UK citizens. Julian appears suitably proud of his new citizenship, and rightly so.
The Foreign and Commonwealth Office appears to be putting out a story that it has refused to accredit Assange as an Ecuadorian diplomat. As the Guardian reports:
“Earlier this week the UK’s Foreign Office revealed that Ecuador had asked for Assange, who was born in Australia, to be accredited as a diplomat. The request was dismissed.”
I have no knowledge that the Ecuadorian government ever notified Assange as a member of diplomatic staff of its mission. But it has every right to appoint Assange, now an Ecuadorian citizen, as an Ecuadorian diplomat if it so chooses. Ecuador cannot tell the UK who may or may not be a British diplomat, and the converse applies."
It's just time Assange did the honourable thing and have his day in court.
Our democracies and legal systems are built on the principle of innocent until proven guilty and everyone is entitled to fair fair trial by their peers. If he is innocent then have your day in court and the prosecution will fail to prove it's case.
The real difficulty is that he's not afraid of the crime with which he's been charged and is being extradited for. He is afraid of the crime he is yet to be charged with of publishing stolen classified documents.
I struggle to have sympathy for him on this, He knew what he was doing and he knew he was breaking the law when doing it. He's hidden behind the guise of wikileaks which was effectively created to allow people to blow the whistle on public interest issues & crimes that would otherwise remain hidden. Unfortunately Assange failed to see the difference between things that are interesting to the public and in the public interest. Whilst those releases contained interesting and embarrassing things to read, there was no smoking gun of uncovered crimes or other illegal activities. Had those leaks contained something like watergate tapes or the bay of pigs invasion details etc then I doubt that a prosecution would be likely. Instead he chose to publish a trove of classified but otherwise non public interest information, and thought to hell with the law they can't touch me. It was simply reckless and ultimately pointless, and has unfortunately harmed the wikileaks idea that actually should've been really useful and a force against corruption.
none of the ruling class liked him. Yeah, there's plenty of corporatist sellouts on both sides. And Hilary is, well, just awful. Vote in your primary. If you and everyone else had done that we'd be saying Mr President to Bernie instead of a guy that confuses Call of Duty with the real world .
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I wonder how long before he rapes an Ecuadoran then steals any secrets he can find and tries to flee to Russia.
There has to be a legion (a la Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) who has the London sewers mapped out like the back of their hand who could sneak him away.
He was wanted for questioning, nothing else,
From the actual complaint: the woman who accused him of rape stated that first they both had sex, then later she awoke from him entering her again, she asked him if he was wearing any protection, and he said 'only you', and she stated she was too tired to argue, so they had sex again.
Next morning they joked about him paying her student loans in case she became pregnant, and that they would call the baby Afghanistan. She then gave him a lift on her bike down to the train station since he was running late for an interview, and also gave him money for a ticket since he had no swedish currency. When she came home she discussed what had happened with a friend and then she realized she had been raped.
This case was first dismissed by the district attourney because there was no case, then it was picked up (very unusual) by another attourney Marianne Ny...
This is purely political, like when the UK spent millions having fucking guards outside the embassy for these insanely poor accusations which would never hold up in court.
Here are the actual protocols from the questioning of the accuser (in swedish of course): http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assan...
Strange world we live in
Just ask only for everyone to dress exactly the same way, cut the air the same way and look as much as possible as him... then everyone goes to the Ecuador embassy and leave all at same time. Do this several times, but only once of then Assange MAY really leave the embassy
The police could not track so many people and after several attempts, they will give up or agree in a valid solution... or he MAY leave in one of the attempts
Better yet, ask everyone to use a burka, that will be easier to hide as everyone is the same, be either men, women, white, ginger, black, asian, etc ... it may also requires women police (i do not really know how someone with burka is identified by a police)
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That is bullshit. Questioning can happen whenever, if you don't believe it, use simple logic to deduce why. It's not allowed in Sweden not to come when asked to be questioned, but you need not to reply to questions. If you refuse to come to questioning a warrant will be made for you arrest to force you compliance. Still you don't need to answer any questions, just be there. This is what the arrest is for.
RTFNSA - read the fine New Statesman article
As the English High Court held (paragraphs 152 and 153):
Plainly this is a case which has moved from suspicion to accusation supported by proof. [...]
In England and Wales, a decision to charge is taken at a very early stage; there can be no doubt that if what Mr Assange had done had been done in England and Wales, he would have been charged and thus criminal proceedings would have been commenced.
Some commentators have made the point that the prosecutors should come to the UK to question Assange. However, this appears to misunderstand the procedural stage of the investigation. Assange is not required for mere questioning; he is required to surrender for interrogation before any charges can be made and prosecution brought.
Assange has already been questioned. The prosecutor has also told the English courts that the need to deal with the other witnesses and expert evidence means that the interrogation stage needs to take place in Sweden. That is a matter for a prosecutor to decide. The allegations are about incident in Sweden, and in respect of Swedish complainants on the basis of witness and expert evidence in Sweden.
And, of course, it is not for the accused in a serious crime investigation to determine how any investigation should proceed.
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Britain CANNOT, under diplomatic law, intercept diplomatic cargo and inspect it. They could easily work on a panel truck to hide him in it, or put him in a special box, take him to the airport and whisk him away.
Another thing to do is to say they are going to do a "live" interview in the Ecuadorian embassy, but actually have it prerecorded. "Televise" the "live" interview whilst whisking him away in a diplomatic vehicle that is not subject to search. This is possible should the Ecuadorians really want to make it happen.
Lots of 'liberals' were calling Assange a traitor or at least a shitbag we should've hit, since the whole Manning thing, especially onces who had family in the military. For them, releasing military secrets is taboo no matter who you are.
The people who have become *VOCAL* about it since Hillary are the libtards, which I would say replicate the frothing mass of screamers on the conservative side of things. As far as percentages go, I cannot provide hard values since I stopped caring about either side after the whammies of Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama without anything important to me changing politically, while people ranted and raved about shit that didn't matter while both sides were fundamentally dismantling what it meant to have liberty in America.
I hope the 4th Reich is in America, and chooses to purge the stupid and the partisan in the same way the Nazis purged the Jews, Homosexuals, and Mentally Retarded. Because America seems to be mostly the Partisanly Retarded today.
Say for six months to a couple years. Could even have the people be volunteers. They could play it up and down as to make them look like they are in disguise and then leave the country. Then at sometime randomly chosen by Julian in the two years he could sneak out as one of them. Not even the embassy staff would know. He could try for a plane, boat or a cargo container.
No matter what I truly hope he make it somewhere he will not be persecuted.
The UK is no longer fit to have their own sovereignty
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Perhaps Assange's conversation with Ecuador went something like this:
"Hey, would you like me to release embarrasing information about your country or would you grant me asylum and receive some tasty information about the USA that we have collected over the years?"
If Assange is as narcissistic as he seems to be, it would not surprise me at all if he used Wikileak's information for his own personal gain in this way.
Is it the problem to add a fenced patch of land to the embassy? Even prisoners have got the right to walk at the fresh air.
I guess international traitor and spy AssWage will be hiding out in Ecuador soon. I dare him to venture out of Ecuador for a bit. Perhaps he'll get what he deserves.
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