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Democrats Are Just One Vote Shy of Restoring Net Neutrality (engadget.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Engadget: Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer now says Democrats in the Senate are a single vote away from restoring net neutrality. According to the senator from New York, they now have a total of 50 votes for a Senate resolution of disapproval that would restore the Open Internet Order of 2015 and deliver a stiff rebuke to Ajit Pai and other Republican members of the FCC. It would also prevent the agency from passing a similar measure in the future, all but guaranteeing Net Neutrality is permanently preserved. Right now the resolution has the support of all 49 Democrats in the Senate and one Republican, Susan Collins of Maine. But Schumer and the rest of the caucus will have to win over one more Republican vote to prevent Vice President Mike Pence from breaking tie and allowing the repeal to stand. Under the Congressional Review Act, the Senate has 60 days to challenge a decision by an independent agency like the FCC. Democrats have less than 30 days to convince a "moderate" like John McCain or Lindsey Graham to buck their party. Further reading: The Washington Post (paywalled)

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  1. What they really need by Baron_Yam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They don't need a moderate Republican. Given the current state of the involved politics, what they need is a pissed off Republican who isn't interested in continuing in public service and who will vote to hurt Trump... OK, and who is also somewhat moderate by the standards of Trumpism.

    There are a couple of those, if I've been following things as well as I think I have.

    1. Re:What they really need by zifn4b · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They don't need a moderate Republican. Given the current state of the involved politics, what they need is a pissed off Republican who isn't interested in continuing in public service and who will vote to hurt Trump

      This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. You're suggesting people ought to vote on things not because of the merits of what they're voting on but out of vindictive spite. And you wonder why there is so much vitriol in politics. Your mindset is part of the problem.

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    2. Re:What they really need by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >This is the stupidest thing I've ever read.

      No, just a stupid interpretation of what I posted. That's on you.

      >You're suggesting people ought to vote on things not because of the merits of what they're voting on but out of vindictive spite.

      See, that's where you let your stupidity get the better of you, and you inferred what was never implied.

      No 'ought' at all. That's the way it works right now in the GOP; vote Trump, unless you have nothing to lose and are pissed that he's destroying the party.

    3. Re:What they really need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful


      You're suggesting people ought to vote on things not because of the merits of what they're voting on but out of vindictive spite.

      Spite is maybe the wrong word, but I'll take it. Voting against things because you don't like the leadership is an effective strategy for change. Leadership only works if people follow. Not blindly following your party and voting against something you might not even care about, or possibly even agree (in this instance) can work to break up a direction you don't like. There's more to politics than individual battles.

    4. Re:What they really need by T.E.D. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. You're suggesting people ought to vote on things not because of the merits of what they're voting on but out of vindictive spite. And you wonder why there is so much vitriol in politics. Your mindset is part of the problem.

      ...only surpassed by the naiveté of acting like the entire Republican caucus hasn't been doing exactly this already since 2008. If they're gonna be like this, perhaps they can use it for GOOD for once.

    5. Re:What they really need by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're suggesting people ought to vote on things not because of the merits of what they're voting on but out of vindictive spite.

      That's how Trump ended up president.

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    6. Re:What they really need by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. You're suggesting people ought to vote on things not because of the merits of what they're voting on but out of vindictive spite. And you wonder why there is so much vitriol in politics. Your mindset is part of the problem.

      Trump's election to POTUS was vindictive spite from the right in this country. I am perfectly ok with the left hitting back. Trump's entire presidency has been one spite after another, reversing everything his predecessor did that he can, not because he believes in those positions, but because Barack Obama did.

    7. Re:What they really need by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No. The problem is that there are no more Democrats left. They all turned into social democrats leaving those of us who aren't communists without a liberal party to vote for.

      What an absurd statement. You're throwing the word "communist" around and expect to be taken seriously?

    8. Re:What they really need by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Barack Obama is an enemy of the United States, as evidenced by his support of Islam.

      Sure I'm bored, I'll bite. You're a racist idiot. Support of some religion has absolutely nothing to do with someone's status as a 'enemy' or 'friend' of our country. Are you really this stupid? Ever heard of separation of church and state?

      If anyone is an enemy of the USA, you are. You're an idiot with a broken world view. A waste of the O2 you breath. Good day.

  2. scare quotes by Orgasmatron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Calling John McCain and Lindsey Graham "moderate" is the best use of scare quotes I've seen in a long time.

    Unintentional?

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    1. Re:scare quotes by Holi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Since when are you the person who defines what being a Republican means? Maybe it's you guys on the extreme right who are RINOs as most are far more moderate then you.

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    2. Re:scare quotes by Mashiki · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ever been to Switzerland? How about Singapore? No, I'm guessing not. How about before China started cracking down on Hong Kong. How about you should grow the fuck up and realize that *smaller government* doesn't mean no government? The only thing you're doing is showing everyone that your range and understanding of politics could fill a teaspoon.

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    3. Re:scare quotes by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > well show me and example of this so called great "small government" you crave.

      Health insurance before Obamacare. My state handled it well on it's own. I could buy insurance on my own independent of my employer. The private option was actually better and cheaper than what any employer offered.

      Now the private market has been destroyed. Prices tripled. The best class of plans is no longer available. If I were in the private market, a lot of doctors would be out of network for me. I would be locked out of the single best facility available to treat my condition.

      After 10 years of having the same very good insurance company, I now have to switch policies annually at the whim of my employer. They do this in the middle of the year to screw me out of my deductible (companies get around the new ACA rules meant to stop this).

      Every time I have to deal with the crap from a crappy insurance company I would never have chosen to use, I want to kick Obama in the balls and I get a renewed appreciation for federalism.

      I don't mind that my city has a free hospital. I don't mind that we pay for it directly. That is far more sensible than sending our money to DC and then having our local hospital mired in federal nonsense.

      You're trying to conflate more localized governance with Somalia. That's the kind of dishonest nonsense that poisons useful public policy debate.

      We just don't want idiots that can't manage their own states spreading their incompetence around any further.

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  3. Misleading title by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Republicans are stronger in the House making restoration unlikely there. Even then Trump will almost certainly veto it. If NN is going to come back the Dems have to take the House and Senate by a wide enough margin to overturn a veto.

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  4. It's a toxic measure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a very very toxic measure, especially among rural Republican voters who are the ones usually stuck with one ISP. They're the ones who get screwed over by Verizon/Comcast/ ATnT. So each Republican Senator they force to support Ajit's toxic measure, is a Republican that will have to face his constituents later and explain why they supported this anti consumer measure.

    This has value even if Republicans overturn it later.

    Ajit has helped enormously with his insulting and patronizing videos and ignoring of all those fake comments with half a million of them from Russian email addresses. I assume he'll go on helping as the State Attorneys investigate all the identity theft. Identity theft is a crime, and obstruction of the investigation of it, is also a crime, and Ajit loves to make smug videos, reveling in his temporary power.

  5. Half Measures by ElizabethGreene · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I disagree with this approach. If Congress wants Net Neutrality they should write it as a law, not just force the FCC to not repeal the existing rule which DOES NOT apply to wireless carriers.

    Wireless carriers will be the big winners here. It gives them freedom their wired carriers don't have.

  6. Purity tests by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those people named? They're not moderates or conservatives. They're RINO's,

    Only if you have a ridiculously far right notion of what it means to be a republican (which you clearly do). RINO is a pathetic attempt to apply a purity test to a member of the party. By today's standards Reagan would be called a RINO. Heaven forbid someone attempt to have a fruitful negotiation with someone they don't agree with complete. Or *gasp* actually compromise about anything.

  7. Re:No excuse for another partisan vote... by arbiter1 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sadly Democrat's love to put noble names on their bills like its a good thing, Affordable care act? Yea not very affordable is it. Net Neutrality is another one those that claims to prevent things like censor ship but it only applies that to ISP's but lets companies like facebook, twitter and google off the hook when they censor people's views when they don't like them. Its not people calling violence that have their posts on twitter deleted no its people that have right leaning views calling for things based on common sense and using stats to back the view. Yet liberal can call for violence or call someone by racial words and no problem.

  8. Americans are further becoming... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... the laughing stock of the world. Keep it up!

  9. Re:The other side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The right only sees Net Neutrality as "more government control of the internet" because they've been tricked by politicians like Ted Cruz calling net neutrality "Obamacare for the internet", which is completely disingenuous.

    The fact is, NN boils down to just this: ISPs can't discriminate against (or be in favor of) data flowing through their pipes.

  10. The ACA wasn't responsible for that by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    private insurance was. Your premiums are going up because medical care isn't something that should be paid for by the private sector. It's too complex. You can't 'shop around' for a heart transplant like you can for a breakfast sandwich. Also, you can go without the breakfast sandwich. You can't go without the heart transplant.

    The ACA was a bad law. But it was the best we could get with a Congress full of Republicans and Blue Dog Dems. We already know the solution, which is Single Payer. Bernie Sander's has a townhall meeting coming up to discuss it. Hopefully it gets some traction and we can join the rest of the civilized world (who pay 1/2 what we do for better results).

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