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Lawsuit Filed By 22 State Attorneys General Seeks To Block Net Neutrality Repeal (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: A lawsuit filed today by the attorneys general of 22 states seeks to block the Federal Communications Commission's recent controversial vote to repeal Obama era Net Neutrality regulations. The filing is led by New York State Attorney General Schneiderman, who called rollback a potential "disaster for New York consumers and businesses, and for everyone who cares about a free and open internet." The letter, which was filed in the United States District Court of Appeals in Washington, is cosigned by AGs from California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington and Washington DC.

"An open internet -- and the free exchange of ideas it allows -- is critical to our democratic process," Schneiderman added in an accompanying statement. "The repeal of net neutrality would turn internet service providers into gatekeepers -- allowing them to put profits over consumers while controlling what we see, what we do, and what we say online."

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  1. Re:Hey why have 3 branches of government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Sure a shame Obama moved the Overton window so far that a Trump was inevitable.

    We tried to warn you, you didn't listen. You just called us racist instead.

  2. There Is Another by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As Yoda would tell you - there is another.

    That Another is Congress. You know, the guys who are supposed to make laws?

    So which would you rather have - an un-elected body making up whatever rules they like (FCC), or rules thought out be representatives from across the country (legislative branch - congress/house).

    And they are making an effort to do so. It's WAY BETTER that rules that effect so many companies large and small, come from careful deliberation in the open rather than a handful of commissioners in secret.

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    1. Re: There Is Another by houghi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You almost had it right and then you ruined it by saying they should look at companies. They should not. It is "For the people, by the people." Thinking of the companies brought us in this mess.

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    2. Re:There Is Another by strikethree · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As Yoda would tell you - there is another.

      That Another is Congress. You know, the guys who are supposed to make laws?

      You are correct, but there is absolutely no faith by anyone that Congress will do anything. They are quite happy to sit on their hands while receiving money from the monopoly ISPs.

      It is a perfect storm, all bought and paid for. The municipalities have granted monopoly status locally, Ajit Pai rolled back consumer protections, and Congress just has to do nothing and access to the Internet becomes the golden goose that keeps on giving... to a select few.

      The dystopian sci-fi future is being built right now. "Right to Read" https://www.gnu.org/philosophy... indeed.

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  3. I got a better idea by jonwil · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the governments in these states really cared about having a free and open internet, they would repeal any state laws that restrict broadband competition or the roll out of new players (be it companies like Google, community groups, non-profit groups, municipalities or whoever else) and pass state laws that overrule any monopolies at the local level (be they monopolies put in place by local laws or monopolies granted via exclusive franchise deals).

    And they would tell AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, Charter Spectrum and the other last-century dinosaur ISPs to get stuffed when said ISPs complain about having to actually compete.

  4. Re:Worth noting the party breakdown by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Almost every single one of these AGs is a Democrat. I still don't fully understand how NN became a partisan issue, ...

    Republicans are not in favor of an informed electorate, just the people with money, who control the corporations with money, who control the flow and availability of information to that electorate. Everything the Republicans care about, or claim to care about, reduces to money and/or power and ensuring they have it and "others" don't. /cynical

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  5. Re:Quick question by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am wondering - do the AG's have standing to file suit here?

    Yes. Google "federalism".

    Can a bunch of AGs just get together and appeal to a judge to get the government to do something?

    It doesn't have to be a "bunch" of AGs. One is enough. It just so happens that all the states where people wear shoes and have dental care joined in this particular lawsuit. And in this case, it's not to get the government to do something, but to stop the government from doing something.

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  6. Re:What law was repealed? by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Insightful

    using another service.

    How nice when one is available, that actually competes!

    there are already layers of reprieve, Antitrust action, FCC itself, Justice Dept

    Most of us prefer not to have to go to court every time the service goes to shit. Let's make a preemptive attack on that right now, it will save us time and fees. If the government wants to go one better it could nullify all state/local regulations that prohibit municipal/public internet and other exclusive contracts that lock out competition.

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  7. Secret agencies, big businesses, weak leaders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wish the U.S. had a well-functioning government.

  8. Re:Option #3 by sg_oneill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yep. I've said this before, but it bears repeating. The US is a great democracy, but its a prototype of a democracy at a time where there where not many examples to go by and forged by revolutionaries without the hindsight we have today. And sadly the old girl is definitely showing her age.

    We know that no system is perfect (See Arrows Theorem) but there are many systems that are better. My personal favourite is instant runoff voting, used in Australia and a few others. Another good one is proportional seats, and there are others. And all of these have in common the idea of not wasting votes (Instant runoff does this by incrementally adding in preferences until a clear prefered candidate emerges as having 50+1 majority, good for presidents and individual seats. Proportional works by dividing seats by the number of votes. Good for houses of representation) All of these can be number crunched and manipulated, but so can "Just give it to whoever got the most votes". So if you really want to vote for the Greens or the Liberty, you can do so without endangering your prefered majority party candidate.

    The problem is the current system is so favourable to the major parties, I highly doubt we'll see change anytime soon

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  9. Re:Option #3 by Kiuas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Electoral College and Senate ensure that large concentrations of population with group think cannot dictate to the rest of the country. It distributes power in a more diverse way than what you're wanting.

    This argument has never made any sense to me as a European and a proponent of democracy, especially for the electoral college because what the EC does is flip the situation upside down by giving a minority of people the right to elect a ruler of the country. How's that superior? It's now put you in a situation wherein some states are fundamentally worth more than others to candidates, and you can moneyball the entire election process by competing for those more valuable votes that decide the end result. It in fact makes you more susceptible to groupthink, because you now only have to manipulate a minority of the voterbase to believe you're on their side (as Trump successfully did) and you'll be elected. How does this 'ensure' you against anything? To me it's obvious at this point that it makes the system weaker to populism of the Trump kind, where all you have to do is make grandiose and baseless promises to a minority of people (and it's easier to fool a minority than a majority) and the groupthink of these people will help you get elected. As a 'safeguard' measure it's an utter failure, not to mention fundamentally undemocratic. You're all citizens of the same country, you all have the same president. Trump rules just as much over California than he does over Ohio, so why on earth should votes from Ohio be more important that votes from California? There is no rational justification for this.

    People that cannot bother to empathize and think about why others have differing opinions should not be controlling the country.

    Again, this statement has nothing to do with the fact that the EC is fundamentally undemocratic because what it does is it ties the significance of ones vote to one's geographic area, which is irrational and can in the end used to manipulate the result by either side. There is absolutely nothing about a person living in a given area that means he/she will think in a certain way or hold certain beliefs, yet the system as it now is treats people differently based simply on where they happen to live. Democracies have mechanisms which are meant to safeguard minorities from tyranny by the majority, the most important one usually being the constitution and that uphold it. On top of this you have the local elections on a city/state level giving people further influence over the governance of their immediate area, but what you're saying that certain people should have more power in selecting who rules over everyone simply because the happen to live in place X instead of place Y, and that to me is thoroughly irrational. Your place of residence does not determine your intelligence, your values, political beliefs or set them in stone, so it should also rightfully not affect the weight of ones vote.

    Imagine a hypothetical scenario where 10 people set up a camp in the woods. 6 of them live in the same building, while 4 people set up tents further away. What you're saying is that those 4 people should get to decide who is elected as the leader of the camp simply on the merits that they're located in a different spot because you want to avoid 'the groupthink' of the 6. So your suggestion is 'hey, let's give power instead to this even smaller group of people, after all, a smaller group of people cannot possibly fall victim to groupthink' . It just makes no sense, from the perspective of equality and the western democratic principles. If indeed you hold, as many Americans so proudly proclaim 'that all Men are created equal', then this system is the very antithesis of that statement and should be done away with.

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  10. Re:Bankrupt leftist states lead the charge! by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, how dare governments work for its people instead of its corporations! Don't they know who pays them?

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  11. Re:Hey why have 3 branches of government by Mashiki · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You mean mostly EPA regulations which were ruled unconstitutional by the court and didn't have anything to do with drinking water. But was an "overreach of federal power" in restricting what a state can do with it's own resources. Such as mining, forestry, and so on. Because the EPA at the behest of Obama was writing regulations like laws, and the courts ruled that regulations aren't laws, and in doing so the government was not only violating the constitution but the executive branch was exceeding it's constitutional mandate.

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  12. Re:So who are those Attorney Generals? by strikethree · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This being slashdot, there are plenty of commentators trying to make killing Net Neutrality the fault of both parties. But the evidence shows clearly that Republicans are overwhelmingly in favor of gutting it, and the Democrats are overwhelmingly in favor of preserving it.

    Is this supposed to be an argument FOR partisan voting? If so, shall I start listing all of the nasty things the Democrats (DMCA, Copyright Extension, etc) have done and are planning to do?

    Partisan voting is how we got here. It is worse than useless, even counterproductive, to point out party lines. Both parties are utterly suborned. The part of the historical cycle where heads get chopped off is arriving, and I think it will be particularly ugly this time around.
     

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