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2017 Among Warmest Years On Record (npr.org)
2017 was among the warmest years on record, according to new data released by NASA and the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration. From a report: The planet's global surface temperature last year was second warmest since 1880, NASA says. NOAA calls it the third warmest year on record, due to slight variation in the ways that they analyze temperatures. Both put 2017 behind 2016's record temperatures. And "both analyses show that the five warmest years on record have all taken place since 2010," NASA said in a press release. The trend is seen most dramatically in the Arctic, NASA says, as sea ice continues to melt.
This is #fakenews. Everybody is saying that my first year as president is the warmest on record, and next year will be even warmer! The failing NASA and NOAA are way down in the ratings!
You are welcome on my lawn.
looks like we average out, so much for global warming, IDIOTS
Burr...
but the earf is flat
we know this cause when you nuke a hot pocket the middle stays frozen
checkmate climate changers and nasa
When did Conservatism and lying about what is provably known become the same thing in America? As they repeat trickle down tax cuts for the richest and shut down the government again, who expects any change from this group?
I see some contradiction in this article.
Since the Industrial Revolution is defined as ending in the 1840 timeframe and we know air quality and even labor laws were all but non existent well after that. I'm guessing the measured temps in 1880 were due to massive air pollution situations around the measurement instruments at that time.
Reality is that thing that still exists regardless of what you think of it. If reality includes global warming due to human activity and humans refuse to do anything about it... the globe shall warm faster than it would have otherwise.
When there have been some major local climate shifts resulting in altering which areas humans consider habitable, along with the ensuing predictable migrations, conflicts, and shortages one would expect... amateur historians will look back and consider us all crazy for ignoring the obvious. The professionals will endlessly analyze the social forces that made it all inevitable.
Essentially, those who believe the climate models and evidence simply still are not sure enough exactly what will happen and how bad it will get - because if we were we'd likely be getting all angry-lynch-mob on anyone who was denying there is a serious issue or obstructing efforts to deal with it.
Go here and take a look at current(today) arctic sea ice conditions to see how dire the condition is: https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
The Trump Organization, with Putin's money of course, will soon be developing a beachfront mixed use development in Greenland. Greenland, because he likes the Danish just as much as Norwegians I suppose...
Drowned polar bears will soon be washing ashore and where or where will the rare arctic spotted penguin nest???
Maybe that's exactly what needs to happen? Skin a few denialist faggots like train0123 alive and leave their corpses hanging from power plant smokestacks.
People will pay slightly more attention I bet.
The planet's global surface temperature last year was second warmest since 1880...both analyses show that the five warmest years on record have all taken place since 2010
1880 happened since 2010?
Just saying, if y'all are going to make up stories, you probably should try a little hardy to keep those stories straight.
Why not just skip all the tedious data manipulation and every month just put up a simple message that simply says "FREAK THE FUCK OUT EVERYONE".
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
So.... Now it's global warming again?
Here's how the Washington Post is reporting this: The planet just had its hottest 4 years in recorded history. Trump is dismantling efforts to fight climate change.
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
Climate change is real and nuclear power is the only option we have to mitigate it. There is no viable path forward that does not include the expansion of new nuclear reactors. So stop opposing the development of 4th generation reactors you fossil fuel lackeys.
Following the leftist Nazi quote
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
No data, not statistics, nothing. A simple claim with a single measurement (2.36 deg F). What is the tolerance of that measurement? Is it accurate within 0.01 deg F? There's nothing at the source link to give any data - or even a link to data. This is just a PR release. I guess that passes for "science" these days...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
President Trump will make sure that we have the hottest years on record during his presidency. ("We'll have the hottest weather; the best weather.") Imagine, every US citizen will be able to enjoy Mar-a-Lago-like weather. Let's democratize Floridian sunshine for all!
When did Conservatism and lying about what is provably known become the same thing in America? As they repeat trickle down tax cuts for the richest and shut down the government again, who expects any change from this group?
I would expect about since Clinton started flying his private jet to tell people they need to stop using cars. Oh, and Climategate too.
Meanwhile, The Guardian is reporting a Nature study that states that the most dire predictions of global warming are unlikely.
Being, the prediction that the Earth will warm 4-5 degrees C by 2100 is not credible.
The WaPo just got a Trump Fake News award for showing photos of one of his rallies being empty when he said it was full. WaPo photographer took photo hours before people showed up and failed to mention that. Photos taken during the rally showed the place without an empty seat.
You are citing an officially labeled Fake News site.
There is always an impact on the planet, small or large by our human actions. But, I can't stand decrees like this. Where is the data? Never seems to be available. Always install a graph or picture with red as bad. More importantly, who funds and backs such research, and who will benefit from the research? Alot of money to be made in this business. To believe something, facts are needed. Do real science. Present the facts and let people discuss and draw a conclusion. This will actually get some discussion going and get forward progress. Instead, divisive statements are made with little to no facts to back them up. People take their opinions to their own corners and call anyone with a different opinion a hater, stupid, ignorant. This doesn't work. Planet Earth is here for us all to live on. Let try to solve issues together. Just remember, the planet isn't in trouble from us, we don't have that kind of power. The planet will be here long after us little humans are gone...
Watch this eclipse, and see for the first time that space is fake, and the Earth is flat.
Lunar Eclipse: https://vimeo.com/92378881
Irregular shadow shape, progression. Shadow is black, then changes color to reddish: Shadows don't change color. Moon glow of uneclipsed portion increases as shadow becomes reddish, detail lost. Moon has no rotation(see Nikola Tesla): we always see the same face. Moon emits own light. Craters not from impacts: Too round.
No model of the lunar eclipse correctly captures it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/10/06/why-does-the-moon-turn-red-during-a-lunar-eclipse/
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/usa/scottsdale?iso=20140415
software:Stellarium 0.16.1 Next lunar eclipse: January 30/31, 2018 mid-to-west North America
Solar Eclipse: https://vimeo.com/230976895
Light of the chromosphere can be observed on the back of the moon.
And keep watching the sunlight brighten and change color since winter solstice.
Always wondered why. Does it touch a nerve that forces an emotional kneejerk response?
Over time I know moderation will kick in to adjust such posts (which typically are a minority) vs logically reasoned and interesting content that will eventually surface. But I think it is interesting to reflect on the psychological basis for the need to respond immediately by someone holding a specific viewpoint vs rest of us.
Every comment on this story will be stupid shit that ultimately won't matter. No one commenting today will be alive to see what eventually will happen. No one opening their mouth has a dog in this race.
If Global Warming is real, why did it just snow in New Orleans?!
Huh!?
Keep crap articles like this off this site. Go moderate Mother Jones.
Every years is, by definition, "among the warmest years on record". What a stupid headline.
The little ice age ended around 1850. Since then the planet has been warming. If you are in an up trend, which we have been since 1850 or so, you expect the more recent years to be warmer than earlier years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
The warming trend started before the demon (man made) CO2 could impact the climate. According to the IPCC, man made CO2 should start having an effect around 1940 or so.
If you take the long view, the recent warming is neither unprecedented or unnatural.
https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_15/fig1.gif
Oh, yay! Another CC story, which means we're all treated to the Dunning-Kruger Effect all-stars on this site with their blistering hot takes on why there's so much doubt about the fundamental points of CC (it's real, it's caused by humans, it's here now, and it's a hell of a big problem).
Dear morons: Get a clue, and understand the following points:
1. Our understanding of the basic mechanism of CC, the greenhouse effect, goes back well over a century, e.g. Google Svante Arrhenius and see his work from the 1890s.
2. Climate scientists are not in this for the money or the journal publications or tenure or whatever. They don't want this to be true. They have families just like the rest of us, and almost every one of them is freaking out. They would be deliriously happy for someone to actually prove that CC is not a threat or could be cheaply and easily fixed.
3. Because of how much CO2 we've already put into the atmosphere and the oceans, how long it stays there, and how much we're still pumping out, there is no reasonable expectation at all that we'll escape horrific, off-the-charts expensive impacts from sea level rise. It is literally too late to save many large coastal cities around the world, barring some miraculous technology that allows us to suck many billions of tons of CO2 out of the biosphere and permanently sequester it. And that sea level rise will create many millions of refugees and untold international conflicts. One example: Bangladesh has about half the population of the US in an area the size of Iowa, most of it being very low-lying coastal area. If you think South Asia is "interesting" now, wait until 10 or 20 or 50 million people are displaced from that country with nowhere to go.
I apologize for the nasty tone of this post. I've been fighting this battle for nearly 15 years, and I've long ago run out of patience with the armchair experts who think they know more than nearly 100% of the world's experts in a highly technical field.
enjoy,
http://berkeleyearth.org/global-temperatures-2017/
data has been debunked as tampered with and the agenda is old and tired. However we're used to the /. mods pushing the agenda and looking forward to this post being modded down in 3...2...
It's been a gradual thing, over time conservatives have lost their focus on moral values, and have shifted to winning at any cost. Of course, if all you care about is winning at any cost, then you will forgive lies as long as you think they're helping your side to win.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
When did Conservatism and lying about what is provably known become the same thing in America?
It didn't, and never has. When did Liberalism become a completely faith-based movement?
Climate models that simply fail to model the world properly.
Studies and predictions that don't describe reality.
Obfuscation and destruction of data used to to constitute reports that are eventually fudged to fit the pre-existing narrative.
Pushing of "narrative" instead of "fact".
Failure to even START coming up with a plan of action for combating a supposed problem, since economic sanctions and eternal "ongoing research" are more lucrative.
Conservatives aren't averse to spending money. If it's in the right place, they'll spend.
What's being objected to is pouring of money down an endless, bottomless hole with no promises of return or even a plan of action. Just "we should revert to the stone age".
As they repeat trickle down tax cuts for the richest and shut down the government again, who expects any change from this group?
Sorry, but it isn't the Conservatives trying to force a government shutdown.
They're doing so because they think they're going to get their way by being bratty, obnoxious, bitchy little children.
They're WRONG.
And yes, in the Trumpian era, they're going to learn what it's like to being told to fuck off and die for their obstructionism.
Would it kill them to give the measured temperature value, or the error bars? This is a pattern I've noticed in these "hottest year ever" articles. They never actually tell you the data. Instead we get this: "According to NOAA, 2017 average land surface temperatures were 2.36 degrees Fahrenheit hotter than the 20th century average." Well, thanks for the unnecessary homework. Why don't they mention the actual temperature?
Seriously? The planet has been around for millions of years, unless you're a Jew then it's only been around a few thousand.
The animals that can adapt will survive. Ask Darwin.
Those that can't, won't. We will miss them certainly, we will build great displays to memorialise them for years to come, but let's face it: they will be the weak and the earth is made for the strong.
Beep beep, outta my way. A Better World is Afoot.
captcha: commute. Like what I'm doing in my dino-eating ICE-mobile.
-yze temperatures
What did they mean by this?
Translation: 2017 was NOT the warmest year on record. It was simply among the top 5.5 billion warmest years.
During night, it is 10 degrees average colder than day time
and stays cold for 10 hours no end.
Waaa! Waaaa! wwwaaaaaaaa!!
Glow ball cooling is oppressing me each night!!!
Climate change now accelerated to 1 degree per HOUR!!!!
As the Sun cums up, the earth's temperature goes up
average 1 degree per hour. And when then Sun cums
down, the globe cools 1 degree per hour.
Climate is changing every hour!
Awe noooo! This is making me crispy and toasted.
Can I have a bacon sandwich to top it all off?
https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/01/12/global-warming-stirs-the-methane-monster/
In the arctic, "On average, it was 12.96C or 23.35F warmer during the period from October 1 to December 30, 2017 (red line), compared to the same days in 1981-2011."
The spikes first started up in late 2010.
The worst-case IPCC scenario projects a mean temperature rise that would take average global temperature beyond 20 degrees Celsius this century, an obviously catastrophic scenario. Yet, the IPCC scenarios fail to include the many feedbacks that accelerate temperature rises, such as large abrupt releases from methane hydrates. In fact, the IPCC miserably failed to warn about the dramatic loss of Arctic sea ice.
https://geo-engineering.blogspot.ch/2012/02/how-much-time-is-there-left-to-act.html
It is perfectly clear from the graphs that the methane build up in the Arctic is mainly a result of increasing earthquake activity along the Gakkel Ridge caused by global warming induced worldwide expansion of the Earth’s crust due to the carbon dioxide buildup in the atmosphere which is enhanced by the heating up of the Arctic ocean due to the high global warming potential of the methane (Light 2011). This close relationship between the Gakkel Ridge earthquake activity, the destabilisation of the Arctic methane hydrates and the NASA GISS surface temperature anomalies has already been clearly demonstrated (Carana, 2011b; Light 2011).
If I was a medical doctor I would say that the patient has a terminal illness and is expected to die of an extreme fever between 2038 and 2050.
As this corresponds with my personal life expectancy, I'm only going to see the start of it. ... well, sorry, guys ...
All the current youth
We have been observing global weather by satellite since about 1960, and those 1st weather sats did not measure global temperature - so that's global satellite data for only about 50 years.
We have data from airfields going back to about 1910, so that's VERY coarse data for about 110 years.
We have data from sea captains, gathered often by candle light and old mercury thermometers not calibrated to any common source going back to the 1600s, so that's extremely spotty and not very reliable and certainlg not accurate to within even a full degree data for about 400 years.
Assuming the Eath is 4.6 Billion years old, and assuming we can use the very bad and not particularly accurate sea data of the past 400 years, thats a sample of 400/4500000000 or 1/11250000. I am sorry, but nobody serious thinks a data sample of 1 in 11 million is meaningful.
This stuff gets even more insane when the AGW propagandists wave around data in 10ths or 100ths of a degree. Any normal 1st year science student knows full well that you can smooth data by mathematical tricks like data averaging, but that performing a bunch of math on a bunch of data of any particular precision DOES NOT produce MORE precision! In other words: you cannot get 10ths of a degree termparature data from 250 years ago data gatherd by sea captains with uncalibrated mercury thermometers no matter how much math you do!
Slashdotters should know better that to fall for the obvious scam of AGW advocates screaming about "warmest temperature ever!" or "warmest temperature on record!" or claims about temperature variations in history or in the future that are fractions of a degree. hell, you can swing the "global temperature" by more than a degree by simply changing the time of day at wich you collect the temps from a bunch of stations or by moving the locations of a bunch of temperature sampling ponts by a few miles. It's very common for temperatures to vary by several degrees within any given town, just between the center or town and the edge of town. You can find temperature variations of more than a degree at an airport just between the hangar and the runway apron and similarly between the bow and stern of a ship underway at sea.
Warmest ever. Meanwhile here I sit in my house as the coldest temperatures I've ever experienced in the last 20 years freeze my pipes for the last month.
Yes, I know climate is not weather.
Sorry, Al Gore, with your mansions and private jets: most of us aren't riding your lying gravy trajn.
You meant Arrhenius. You know, the guy who proposed AGW in 1896, and was immediately discredited, and then eventually proven correct in the 1950s and '60s. What? You don't remember how the entire field changed its opinion about whether humans could influence the climate? Hmm, maybe there's a reason for that. Maybe back then, there wasn't a bunch of politicians trying to make hay out of the issue. Maybe today, you're too busy lapping and spewing bullshit to even admit the idea of an objective reality. Ain't no dumb egghead scientist tahp gonna tell you howda think!
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Skin a few denialist faggots like train0123 alive and leave their corpses hanging from power plant smokestacks.
Gee sounds an awful lot like the Spanish Inquisition, another episode of religious zealotry in our history, you know back when the "common belief" was that the world was flat and the sun revolved around the Earth.
If your evidence is so complete, accurate and overwhelming, shouldn't you be able to convince people with intellectual arguments instead of having to eliminate those who disagree?
Spoken to an Australian recently? I think they'd argue about 2018 being one of the coldest on record. I assume you meant to include "so far" and "here".
http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/10/...
Spoken to an Australian recently... because they'd tell you about the number of cities in the country with water restrictions from ongoing droughts that are nearing a decade long in some parts as well as consecutive record high summers. In fact they'd be sweltering in one right now.
How do I know... because you're speaking to an Australian right now.
You're not only speaking to an Australian, but one who understands the climate of Australia. Right now we're getting a La Nina event, which is a sub surface cooling in the Pacific (the reversal of an El Nino event) which is part of the El Nino Southern Oscillation or ENSO. This is a welcome change as Australia has been hotter and drier because of several record El Nino events in recent years.
Next time you want to say something completely stupid about Australia... go to Australia first.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
1880 happened since 2010?
In 1980 I took over the operation of a certain bank account. Every year I put $1,000 into this account, I have never taken anything out if. My analysis shows that the 5 years with the highest balance since 1980 have all happened since 2010.
Would you similarly conclude that 1980 happened since 2010, or does your thinking fail so dramatically only on matters pertaining to the culture wars? I mean are you actually an idiot, or is it only that your party political affiliation requires that you act like one?