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Wine 3.0 Released (softpedia.com)

prisoninmate shares a report from Softpedia: The Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) project has been updated today to version 3.0, a major release that ends 2017 in style for the open-source compatibility layer capable of running Windows apps and games on Linux-based and UNIX-like operating systems. Almost a year in the works, Wine 3.0 comes with amazing new features like an Android driver that lets users run Windows apps and games on Android-powered machines, Direct3D 11 support enabled by default for AMD Radeon and Intel GPUs, AES encryption support on macOS, Progman DDE support, and a task scheduler. In addition, Wine 3.0 introduces the ability to export registry entries with the reg.exe tool, adds various enhancements to the relay debugging and OLE data cache, as well as an extra layer of event support in MSHTML, Microsoft's proprietary HTML layout engine for the Windows version of the Internet Explorer web browser. You can read the full list of features and download Wine 3.0 from WineHQ's website.

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  1. Awesome by Major_Disorder · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Wine people have done a fantastic job, and do not get enough credit.
    I'm off to play some GTA Vice City under Wine on Mint.

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    1. Re:Awesome by Stuarticus · · Score: 2

      Neither will Win7, win 8 or Win 10.

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  2. Re:Why wine? by Narcocide · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Game crash in Windows:
      - full system lockup
      - hard reboot
      - inevitable data loss
      - no recourse

    Game crash in Wine:
      - laugh at the foolishness of Microsoft slaves
      - kill Wine and restart it

  3. Re:Why wine? by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Another alternative to prevent games from crashing the OS all the time is to upgrade from Windows 95. Either that or stop spouting outdated notions of what life is like running Windows.

  4. Re:Why wine? by toadlife · · Score: 4, Funny

    Game crash in Windows:
        - full system lockup
        - hard reboot

    1996 called. They want their Microsoft dig back...and if you still have it, that Sublime CD you borrowed.

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  5. Does it run Adobe CC? by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    Adobe CC is the only reason I still have Windows. If there's a way to get it to run on Wine 3.0, it's bye-bye M$. It *almost* ran on the previous version.

    I should be specific. I could live with just Lightroom and Photoshop. A stretch goal would be Premiere.

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    1. Re:Does it run Adobe CC? by halivar · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can search by app here. PS CC18, at least, has a "gold" rating, meaning you should not have any trouble with it. The CC suite is one of those "we better get this right" apps they prioritize during development and testing.

    2. Re:Does it run Adobe CC? by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think I just threw up in the back of my mouth. I am absolutely not an M$ astroturfer. I'm a big fan of Gimp. I can install it anywhere for free and it'll do some things faster than Photoshop. But I still have to go back to photoshop occasionally for some of the advanced features. And in Lightroom, it's a matter of "right click, edit in Photoshop".

      I check out the "best Lightroom alternatives" a couple times a year. Open source Lightroom alternatives tend to do really well for operations of basic-to-medium complexity. I do photography as a profession, and basic-to-medium often isn't good enough. Not to mention, the catalog needs to work well with a quarter million photos. On the plus side, raw support is pretty good with free alternatives. So maybe some day, and I'm really looking forward to that day. But not today.

      The other thing is, I have an investment in Lightroom categorizing the aforesaid quarter million photos, so a migration path would be necessary. (Which some products have.) And finally, I know how to use Lightroom, and would have to learn the new tool. And, I have a midi controller with motorized sliders bound to the most used Lightroom controls, and that would have to carry over too.

      It's not a simple problem. Many of the pieces are there, but not quite all. I'd be more than happy to keep spending my $10 a month to Adobe if I could work entirely on, say, Mint instead of Winders.

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  6. Re:Soo, which version of Windows is 100% implement by demon+driver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From my limited experience: if it comes to older Windows applications, the chances to get something to run properly might actually be higher under Wine than under a current Windows, and that was already true before 3.0. (And if something doesn't run, as was already said, there's still Virtual Box, VMware etc.)

  7. Re:Emulator by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yup. For those who didn't grow up with this stuff: as an example, back in the 1980s, there were a lot of programs marketed as CP/M emulators, which worked with chips like the V30, a 8086 compatible chip that also could natively run 8080 software. The emulators emulated the CP/M API (BIOS and BDOS), not the CPU, allowing software for CP/M 2.x to run under MS DOS (and access the MS DOS file system.)

    The misnomer that you can only use the term emulator for CPU emulation, and not API emulation, seems to be relatively new, I'm almost inclined to stay it started in this millennium.

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  8. Re:Why wine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sadly, I just had my Windows 10 totally fsck on me a few days ago.

    In this particular instance, the "lock up" was because the game takes over full-screen mode and for whatever reason the game became unresponsive. I did CTRL-ALT-DEL and it gave me the options screen for logout/taskmanager/etc but even when starting the task manager the screen just went back to the game and the task manager was inaccessible. ALT-TAB would show the task manager running, but when selected Windows auto-switched right back to the game. The result was, after trying literally everything possible to kill the process from within, I had to force a reboot to finally get out of it.

    I have never had a similar experience on Ubuntu, though I've had my share of other bad experiences there too so I'm in no way a fan-boi for that OS.

  9. Re:Emulator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The reason it's saying it's not an emulator is because it's executing the x86 natively, using its own standin for the nt kernel, a pe loader, etc. Emulation in this context is referring to not having to emulate the whole "pc platform" in order to do this, which a few moments of research could've told you. But I guess it's just easier to be snide than it is to look something up.

  10. Re:Emulator by halivar · · Score: 2

    The distinction, in the case of WINE, was first made in 1993, months after the project began.

  11. Still no Java support by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 3, Informative

    The one piece of Windows-only software I'd like to run, sadly, requires Java, and WINE still doesn't, apparently, allow you to install Java under it. Guess I'll just have to try Windows XP in a virtual machine.

    1. Re:Still no Java support by scdeimos · · Score: 2

      It would probably true if developers actually queried Java for the Path Separator characters and used them instead of hard coding '\' and '/' everywhere. Oh, plus all the other unabstracted platform differences like preference storage.

    2. Re:Still no Java support by gr8dude · · Score: 2

      If you call Windows API functions from your code, then you are tied to this API. In other words, a pure Java program would indeed be able to run anywhere; but if one explicitly ties it to an environment - well, they depend on that environment.

  12. Wrong priorities by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 2

    Ill bet that 50% of Windows apps still crash and refuse to run at all on Wine. I doubt that many Wine users care about android, and would rather more advances had been made toward supporting 99% of windows apps (Windows Desktop apps on a phone, good god).

  13. Excellent I am already a fan by wjcofkc · · Score: 2

    I remember the ancient days when Wine really excelled at running notepad.exe. Over the first few years, I had serious doubts about the project's future. But for the last few years , I have been able run substantially more - even rather complex - applications to the point that it is useful. As of the last couple releases before this, I have been downright impressed by the number of application I have been able to run. This is even to the point where I now consider it a powerful tool. Anything that can improve on that now with hope for ongoing development is absolutely great in my book.

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  14. Re:Why wine? by gr8dude · · Score: 2

    If that happens again, try to start the Task Manager, and then type the name of the EXE (even if the window itself is not visible) and press DEL + ENTER.

    The idea is that the Task Manager's window may not be visible for some reason, but it still has focus - so you can try to interact with it.