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Google Moves To Debian For In-house Linux Desktop (zdnet.com)
Google has officially confirmed the company is shifting its in-house Linux desktop from the Ubuntu-based Goobuntu to a new Linux distro, the DebianTesting-based gLinux. From a report: Margarita Manterola, a Google Engineer, quietly announced Google would move from Ubuntu to Debian-testing for its desktop Linux at DebConf17 in a lightning talk. Manterola explained that Google was moving to gLinux, a rolling release based on Debian Testing. This move isn't as surprising as it first looks. Ubuntu is based on Debian. In addition, Google has long been a strong Debian supporter. In 2017, Debian credited Google for making [sic] "possible our annual conference, and directly supports the progress of Debian and Free Software." Debian Testing is the beta for the next stable version of Debian. With gLinux, that means it's based on the Debian 10 "Buster" test operating system. Google takes each Debian Testing package, rebuilds it, tests it, files and fixes bugs, and once those are resolved, integrates it into the gLinux release candidate. GLinux went into beta on Aug. 16, 2017.
Windows outhouse. The only way to support it.
But for how long? Google appears to be readying its own home-grown OS, to replace Linux (and Android).
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/googles-fuchsia-os-on-the-pixelbook-it-works-it-actually-works/
It states that google is "fixing bugs" in the distro before rolling it out. Is Google submitting any of this back to Debian? It'd be interesting to know the involvement in development that Google has back to Debian.
Sent from my TARDIS
Don't they have to publish the source under GPL? (I realise that this is different from having a downloadable pre-compiled distribution, but it is still available)
I think this counts as a milestone.
Although I disapprove of ruining Linux with the "desktop" nonsense, or trying to get those to like it, who are so lazy that they get angry if they ever "have to" think or make a decision for themselves, and much prefer it to stay professional (but still graphical and discoverable, please).
I'm still counting this. In the desert, a dying man craves even a glass of ... no, I'm NOT making the joke ... NO, brain! Stop it! ... GAAH, I can't not say it! ... of ... of ... frosty piss.
Having been a big Ubuntu fan (yes, including Unity) for quite a while now, I have been severely underwhelmed by the 16.04 LTS. The thing that really gives me pause (in addition to the basic instability of what is supposed to be a stable release) is the show-stopper bugs in major projects that have gone not only un-fixed, but unaddressed for nearly two years.
Here's one (Status: confirmed / Importance: High / Assigned to: Unassigned)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu...
Here's another one (Status: confirmed / Importance: High / Assigned to: Unassigned) :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu...
Both of these examples are _major_ bugs in _major_ packages in the distro. And nobody has bothered to work on them, at all. This suggests to me that Ubuntu is too short on manpower to actually maintain the distro at an acceptable level.
Canonical, WTF?
There you are spamming amazon and youtube affiliate links with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!
You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.
Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.
How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????
The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!
You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!
When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!
Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!
Bonus:
Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:
The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!
So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!
Signed:
Ethel, The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!
but Google already has written the world's most popular app platform, and it wouldn't be farfetched for them to do it again.
Then why aren't APK the current most popular way to run your word processor on your laptop ?
Part of the reason is that Google (an Apple with their AppStore - the *other* most popular app platform) didn't as much take over an existing eco-system, as they actually managed to build an entirely new eco-system and fill a void.
This void was due to the emergence of a new class of platform (specifically smartphone, the combination of former PDA and dumb phones in the same device).
At that point, the former ecosystem that existed were either to old and a bit out place, or pretty much meh to begin with. (e.g.: PalmOS was a giant success on older PDA. By the time smartphone started emerging, it was a very old platform that didn't fill the needs anymore. Even Palm Inc started to ship WinCE on their smartphones.) Or where straigh killed by mis-management (Elop at Nokia).
But despite their tremendous success on the new platform, the same ecosystem didn't manage to displace older eco-system that where still successful. No matter how much we collectively hate Windows here on /., it's still dominating the classical laptop/desktop segment, because that's what every body is used to and that what everyone has already invested into - we Linux-running people are the odd guy out.
The segment where Windows doesn't dominate are the new different segments that emerged since (Chromebooks, Smartphones, etc) where Windows didn't have any establishement to leverage.
I expect the same fate might be waiting Fuschia :
- on newer emerging segment that didn't exist before and where there aren't already well established leader, it might create its place : IoT devices, wearables, etc.
- on well established segment, the current iOS / Android will be hard to displace (Smartphone tablet). Any wannabe competitor will have to keep compatibility with them (e.g.: the various Android compatibility layer on minor smartphone OSes like Tizen, Blackberry, Sailfish OS... or failed attempt thereof: what WSL began its life as under Windows RT before being repurposed as "Bash in Windows").
Fuschia could only succeed if it basically "a different way to run android apps on your smartphone". And then being based on an entirely different kernel, it will also need to convince hardware manufacturer who have invested large amounts of know-how in Linux kernel (mainly for Android).
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
when I read Margarita Manterola at first i was thinking it was an Ubuntu release name
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Chris' case is getting worse, he spends all day replying to himself as AC on /.
The tests we ran on Chris have shown that Chris has the intelligence of an ameba:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
So, technically, he is able to conceive some kind of agenda but it will be silly or impossible to follow on a human scale.
For example, Chris had an agenda to post anything he felt like on Slashdot which did not work well because it was based on his false beliefs that he had an infinite number of karma points as he wrote here several times.
Several people here explained to Chris that karma maxed out at some level like 50 or so but Chris kept on insisting that his python script had confirmed that he had millions of karma points!
Oh well, as I wrote before: "It isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody."
For the valuable /. users that might already have read the following, please note that there is an important update.
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education has invested money to buy Chris a new chair:
http://www.keynamics.com/image...
Information about Christopher Dale Reimer and autistic people:
Autistic people have obsessions about things normal people don't care. For example, one of our autistic patient went haywire when he realized that there was a penny missing in his pocket change.
To calm him down, one of our educator pretended to have found it on the floor and gave a penny to him.
The autistic patient condition went even worse because he realized it wasn't the same penny!
Chris has an obsession with budgeting every penny. He doesn't understand that most people do not budget to the penny and have a flexible amount they allow for miscellaneous items.
I am Nancy Guerrero and I am Director of Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education. We use Chris' (a.k.a. creimer,cdreimer) picture in our document because he is the hardest case we have ever had to handle:
http://www.sccoe.org/depts/stu...
Our artists were inspired by the low carb diet that Christopher follows scrupulously for the small lunch box and by the picture linked below for the rest. I am sure that you will notice the similarities such as the bump on the side of his chest and more:
https://ibb.co/gVad65
Please be easy on Christopher although, I am aware that some of our staff handling Chris post joke comments here and obvoiusly, the Santa Clara County Office of Education disapprove that behavior vehemently:
http://ibb.co/mRVSaG
But it isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody.
Thank You dear users,
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Nancy Guerrero
Director
Special Education
Santa Clara County Office of Education
Copy and paste creimertards are out in force, screeching like old women. Did they see creimer's Twitter shout out for his new video this morning?
Exactly Nancy,
Your posts are always enlightening and right on topic! :-)
On the other hand, it seems like Chris is a victim here. He keeps on reading those SEO, youtube algorithm, basically get rich quick sites. He doesn't realize that he is the fish for them since they make money off him with their own scheme. Then, he wastes his time trying to implement what those sites suggest and he ends up disturbing people.
I mean, those crooks tell Chris that he has to build personal brands and he goes on the Internet and makes everything about himself public!
I believe we should bring this up at our next meeting. He might not be our only patient victim of such on-line abuse.
--
Silvia Bunge
Psychology Department
University of California, Berkeley
Here are some posts from creimer's old accounts. I'll start with his love of child brides.
If all my assets were liquidated, I would still have enough cash to buy a new car and head off to Mexico to find a chica to marry.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
You're aware that are some states in the U.S. that allow underage marriage as young as 14 years old?
https://slashdot.org/comments....
As for my comment, I've heard stories of engineers retiring at 50, moving to Mexico and marrying underage girls. Since I work with ex-military, the Philippines is a popular retirement spot for marrying underage girls as well. It's all about getting the most bang for your retirement dollars.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
That only works if you retire to Mexico, build a mansion (by local standards), marry an underage sweet thing and bequeath all your possessions to the village.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
You need to be more specific. I wrote 3,000+ comments this year.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
Nah... I just do it to piss off my trolls and make coffee money off of them.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
We have different priorities. You want to climb the corporate ladder. I want to own the corporate ladder.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
Your bitch licks your balls. Most people don't brag about practicing bestiality. Is there a reason why you married a dog and not a goat?
https://slashdot.org/comments....
My employers don't care about what my Slashdot trolls think. Now go off and lick your balls somewhere else.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
iPhone 6s and reduce my monthly bill from $80 to $50. As a phone and a video camera, the iPhone 6s isn't obsolete. As a Sprint customer for 20+ years, Sprint will always offer me a new iPhone if I decide to stop using the 6s as a phone in the next several years.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
Miracle workers are never afraid to ask for a second opinion. Supervisor gave me his opinion ? and a mess to clean up. Lesson learned from this incident: if something isn't quite broken, break it.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
So you can turn around call me a liar again? People have been playing that game with me for years.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
Based on what I've read about Uber, he need to tell the boys to clean up their locker room behavior, zip up their pants, and attend sensitivity training until everyone agrees that women are not sexual objects.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
Which doesn't violate the Slashdot TOS. If you got a problem with that, take it up with management.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
This year I've posted ~4,000 comments.
https://slashdot.org/comments....
I don't bother with mod points. I'm doing something much more sinister. It took ten story submissions ? I'll have to double check the
I just watched your latest video... Oh my God... where to even begin? First of all, relax. You sound like this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90s-T1GV7M
except he has all his teeth. Even he is easier to understand.
Second, get a pop filter for your microphone! Good grief, I almost blew out my eardrums listening to that! Can't you do some post-processing to get rid of that?
Third, you are cutting your audio off way too soon, you end your sentence in the middle of a word! So amateurish.
Fourth, your jump cut to your previous "three letter agency" video is cringe-worthy.
Read what Chris Reimer (cdreimer) wrote here:
https://groups.google.com/foru...
You are such a perfect miracle imbecile Chris!
I can't believe that you are actually imbecile enough to post this thread here. It makes you look like an even more imbecile fucktard yet.
As some have stated on that thread "dot is NOT an operator", you fucktard! Apperently, you did not read the thread yourself or more likely, your ameba brain reading comprehension doesn't allow you to understand its content.
It's like asking: What is the dot operator precedence in Linux Slackware 1.2.3? You can't daisy chain dot operators in Windows versions (e.g. 3.1, 3.11, etc.)
What is the precedence in the 2.5 IQ that you possess?
And if you ever asked about real operators the word is "Precedence" you fucktard!
Dots are not operators in ANY OOP language you silly fuck!
See java:
https://docs.oracle.com/javase...
For python, you could have googled it but no, you needed to grab the attention on that google group and didn't care that it made you look like a total fool.
http://reeborg.ca/docs/oop_py_...
See example in above link:
Fido.head.mouth.teeth.canine.hurts();
Other example:
Criemer.head.brain.isHurting(); This is always false because your head is empty you dumb fuck!
But Criemer.head.isEmpty() always returns true...
HAHHA HAHAHAHH AHHAHAAHHAHAAAA!!!! It's like the X-Files!!!! Dear lord creimer, you are completely unaware!!!
Ubuntu needs to die. 'nuff said.
Creimertards????
What the fuck do you mean, you disgusting fat sexist tube of lard?
There is one and only one creimertard, it is yourself; Christopher Dale Reimer! Hence, the name can't be plural. Learn to write you fucktard!
--
Ethell
Hey guys, not sure if you are aware, but it looks like he's up to something new.
https://slashdot.org/~criss69
All journal entries as activity with amazon referrer links that match his old referrer. Not sure how he intends to use this but seems important.
Due to his smell, it is more X-Flies that you find around creimer!
Creimer came in my cubicle the other day around 1:30 PM to fix my Ethernet connectivity. He had to crawl under my desk to reach the cable and oh my god! While crawling under the desk, he released an unbelievable amount of gas and the whole floor had to be evacuated for the rest of the day.
An HAZMAT team was requested to approve the condition before we could go in again the next day and entrance was delayed until 10:45 AM.
3 workers with chronical respiratory problems had to go to the hospital and 1 is still in critical state.
Update:
This is NOT a fart joke!
https://slashdot.org/comments....
The gas seemed to come out of his ears. My guess is that gas accumulates in his large empty head:
http://ibb.co/mRVSaG
Is he selling pickled cock eggs again on Amazon? They were delicious!
Debian wheezy (EOL May 2018) still doesn't have patches released.
Even Centos 6 has spectre/meltdown fixes available.
First, Joe Dragon. Now this fucker. You creimertards are so pathetic.
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I work at a corporation that has 1 Windows machine.
The rest are Linux.
We are capitalists and like making money. Linux solves most of our enterprise problems, faster, cheaper, with less hassle and fewer IT support people than other options.
From here, it appears you are completely out of touch with how non-legacy corporations work.
Don't tell that to the 18 people murdered for political gain by alt-righties last year. a DOUBLING from the previous year.
Thanks for leading the cheerleading brigade.
So they didn't hire you, huh? Well, I'd say that's one plus if I every apply there. I won't have to work beside some alt-right goon.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
of course, the most important question: Does glinux use systemd?
Yet by far and away most murders in the USA are committed in traditionally Dem voting regions. Go figure.
You will, you just won't realise. They'll be silenced for fear of repercussions.
Is this what fake news is?
Creimer is a troll for posting an on topic comment? Meanwhile, the creimertards had shitpost this shithole without consequences. Pathetic.
Does this mean that I'll be able to have Google spy on me and track everything I do just by apt-get installing a package included in the Debian repos?
He (probably: you) admits to being a troll, and that he wants to built up his karma to troll more. So, everything he posts on Slashdot is trolling.
Creimer (not me) is milking he trolls for all the (negative) attention they can provide. You (creimertard) is the reason why he continues to post the few comments that he can post to get that 30% of external traffic from Slashdot to YouTube. The YouTube algorithm loves external traffic. Keep up the good work!
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More on topic than 30+ comments attacking creimer.
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So you're agreeing with me? Cool.
His (your) youtube traffic plan is failing, though. Just four views of his latest video, LOLOLOLOL.
The fat dude talking into the camera is pretty fun, though. I bet you'd get way more views if it was just that.
You forgot to mention the 17 murdered by "Left-Wing" extremists. I also noticed that although that "top 10" went back to 1972 they failed to include those killed by Weathermen Underground or EarthFirst Marxists in their many contributions to societal threats.
creimer said "people don't know what they like until they see it".
That quote is from Steve Jobs.
Didn't apply.
What's more pathetic? A bunch of guys who make 6 figures chasing cancer off a historical website they like or the guy who keeps posting there even though everyone there laughs at him and treats him like shit?
11 months ago you picked up vlogging like a boss and you still haven't finished it.
In the same span of time you could have updated your IT skillset to cover the small difference in skill that keep you from qualifying to six figure salaries where you live
AND spent 3 months looking for work
AND finished your 90 days probation period.
AFTER THAT that if you dumped 30k of your newfound cash each year into stable dividend paying stocks and squandered all the dividends on frivolous bullshit you'd be raking in around 30k a year off dividends, plus social security, plus any other retirement bullshit and you'd have a half million dollars in stock you can cash in.
If you made even a fraction of that kind of money on your highly unstable long tail revenue stream side business bullshit we'd never hear the end of your gloating.
>Fourth, your jump cut to your previous "three letter agency" video is cringe-worthy.
That is strictly prohibited. I wonder where he learned about getting yourself fired from one big revenue stream to free up time to chase thousands of tiny revenue streams during a period of homelessness.
His (your) youtube traffic plan is failing, though. Just four views of his latest video, LOLOLOLOL
Creimer (not me) is putting out search friendly videos get collect views over time and not the first 24 hours. Come back in ten years to check out the numbers.
The fat dude talking into the camera is pretty fun, though.
You should watch Boogie2988 then. He's way bigger than creimer in subscribers, views and pants size. Boogie makes creimer look slim in comparison.
I work closely with google to upload NBC content to youtube. I will mention your channel to my internal contacts next week and see if they can't give you a few red flags for free!
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collect views over time and not the first 24 hours. Come back in ten years to check out the numbers.
When Africa finally gets fully wired and generates a trillion youtube videos for you to try and compete with.
Or ISPs destroy sites like youtube to promote their video subscription packages and everyone publishes their videos on a giant p2p network that makes youtube seem quaint.
Or youtube decides to purge the bottom 50% of it's content.
Or 3d-8k-360d-roaming video becomes popular and people watch today's youtube videos about as much as they consume digital content from the 1990s
Or facebook leverages it's social media advantage to pimp a new video platform that crushes youtube like myspace
Or the best content creators all get so much 3rd party sponsorship that youtube decides not to pay anyone to produce content anymore
11 months ago you picked up vlogging like a boss and you still haven't finished it.
Considering that creimer had put out his eighth video in eight weeks, he probably did finish the book.
So what? Doesn't explain why you don't sign up for a computer class and learn a single hot skill so that your pay will double.
To employers you're just a collection of IT skills that are shared by the majority of IT workers in the bay area. This makes you so replaceable that they'll only ever put you in the shittiest of IT positions.
No instead you make shovelware quality internet content and now you're getting an MCSE, the most generic IT certification since A+.
"had put out", creimer? What a bizarre tense to use. You are supposing that creimer put out eight "videos"? (I put that in quotes because the absurd digital feciations you shitflood on youtube are only "videos" because of the file format)
How are creimer's eight binary abominations "vlogging like a boss"?
If Steve Jobs was still alive, he'd make fun of creimer too.
Fuschia can displace Android overnight if Google decide so. It is their call, their children. their control.
So, if Google snap their fingers, suddenly, all the hardware manufacturer that make embed SoCs will have stable Fuschia drivers (you know, the same manufacturer where you're still stuck with a 3.10 linux kernel, despite the current version being 4.15), all the manufacturer of boards will have all the other ancillary drivers for the rest of the chips ready too, and all the android manufacturers who takes ages to swtich between current versions of android (despite all of them being the same general Android/Linux structure) ?
Yeah... sure...
Nope.
If Google leverage their influence, they might manage to convince a certain subset of the chip manufacturer to accept keeping in mind to also write a Fuschia driver-daemon, next to linux kernel modules for the next chip that they are currently working on. (Forget about trying to persuade to shed any resources to write something for chips that they have sold)
Meaning that 1-2 years down the line, the smartphone/tablet manufacturers would have a choice of ready-to-integrate PCBs that could also offer a Fuschia deamon to assemble into a Fuschio OS, in addition to an Android Linux kernel to install Linux onto.
Meaning that within 3-4 year you would have a reasonable wave of cheap asian no-name smartphones with decent specs, available in big enough quantities that Fuschia would make a attempt at significant market share.
Until that point, you'll only be seeing "boutique" smartphone that Google can be custom making with a couple high profile tightly collaborating manufacturer.
And it will have the exact same market-wide shattering effect that Samsung's Tizen has.
(Currently, any contender that even just try to "exist" on the market and that doesn't have the same influence as Google / their own manufacturing as Samsung / bought they way (=Nokia) into it like Microsoft, can only manage to quickly reach market by harnessing the general android Linux efforts. e.g.: Jolla's Hybris being used for Jolla's own Sailfish, Canonical's former/now UBports' Ubuntu Touch, etc.)
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
No. Because Muslims are not left wing
Left wing is not religious