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Pedestrian Attacks Self-driving Car in the Mission (curbed.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Cruise AV, a self-driving car company owned by General Motors, reports that earlier this month an unidentified man in the Mission flung himself onto one of the company's autonomous vehicles while it was conducting a road test. According to a report filed with the California DMV (all companies testing self-driving cars on California public streets are required to make public reports any time an accident happens), the close encounter of the vehicular kind happened at 9:27 p.m. as the car was waiting to make a turn and "stopped at a green light in between crosswalks of Valencia Street and 16th Street, waiting for pedestrians to cross." The car's human driver says that a pedestrian then unexpectedly ran into the street against the traffic signal and "shouting....struck the left side of the Cruise AV's rear bumper and hatch with his entire body." The driver adds, "There were no injuries, but the Cruise AV sustained some damage to its rear light." No witnesses called the police.

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  1. What? by dbrueck · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What's the Mission?

    1. Re:What? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      most likely they lied to the cops about being hit by the car to sue for a big insurance payout

    2. Re:What? by mark-t · · Score: 5, Informative

      Presumably, it's either a community, district, or suburb of San Francisco.... although I was only able to piece together that much by reading the article.

      Well played, Slashdot.... well played.

    3. Re:What? by pr0t0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You have to accept the mission before you can be told what it is.

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    4. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's a suburb in San Francisco - The Mission District

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_District,_San_Francisco

    5. Re:What? by Hadlock · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's a historically hispanic neighborhood about 2 miles from the skyscrapery financial district/downtown.
       
      It's also one of the sunniest, least windy and warmest (5-10F warmer when most of the city is 55-62F year-round) neighborhoods with an abundance of good ethnic (mexican, indian, etc) restaurants. As a result everyone wants to live there, and have successfully pushed out something like 50% of this hispanic population in favor of predominantly white "tech bros". Property owners are allegedly torching their own properties so that they can rebuild old commercial buildings with way more profitable modern, high density residential housing.
       
      The current (neighborhoods in SF change hands every 25-30 years) old guard is pretty anti-modernism of their neighborhood and have vandalized or stopped bike share, car share, removing existing parking (parking here is a nightmare but so is traffic, SF has the lowest car ownership per capita in competition with manhattan, something like 35% and dropping) and opposing new bus lanes. Hispanic owned businesses are not doing amazing. There's a lot of pushback against anything percieved as a threat to the "traditional" Mission neighborhood. Prices went from under $2000 a month for a two bedroom 10 years ago to, I haven't checked recently but probably $3800 to $5000 depending on location; i.e. if you grew up in this neighborhood to parents without a college education (not unlikely) you very likely may not be able to afford to live here when you turn 18 (or whatever age you decide to no longer live with your parents).
       
      So If it wasn't a crazy homeless guy (very likely) I can see this being some tangential offshoot of local opposition in some form.

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    6. Re:What? by Rakarra · · Score: 5, Interesting

      much of SF believes the rest of the world revolves around their epicenter. The idea that people would not know what "The mission" was probably would not even dawn on people like story author.

      Maybe, but the story was written for a San Francisco publication that has a San Francisco audience. IE, the article writer's expectation that the website readers would know what "The Mission" is is not unfounded. The submitter of the Slashdot article, however, simply cut and paste the first paragraph of the article and used that as the submission. Not necessarily a bad way to share a story, but when taking a niche article and spreading it to a wider geographic audience than it was originally intended for, it helps to add a little context on top. I wouldn't blame the original publication for that.

      We see this all the time on Slashdot when someone submits an article without context, assuming others have a baseline amount of knowledge about what they're talking about.

  2. Bay Area Idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can tell when someone's from the Bay Area because they're so self-important that they describe local locations to the world with no context to explain for people not from the area.

    1. Re:Bay Area Idiots by HornWumpus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Call them Bay Aryans (for their attitude). They love that.

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    2. Re:Bay Area Idiots by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe they presume that you live in the 21st century, and in the unlikely case that you actually care about exactly where that is, you have tools available at your fingertips.

      Nah, SF is the world's largest open-air insane asylum. Most of them aren't aware other things exist.

    3. Re:Bay Area Idiots by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But people are so jealous of California that they pretend not to know what the Mission District is.

      The really funny part is that you think they are pretending.

  3. geeze, thanks anonymous pedestrian by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    New data point - people are assholes.

    Do you want SKYNET? Because that's how you get SKYNET right there.

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  4. Ambulance chasers by cyberchondriac · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kids are doing this all over, apparently: they run up to a car while it's at a light or in heavy traffic, jump on the hood or elsewhere and act like they got hit by the car, hoping to get a settlement. I've seen dashcam video that was pretty funny because some of the attempts are just so obviously staged.

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  5. Good thing the car doesn't have AI... by Kjella · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...or it'd run him over in self-defense.

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  6. San Francisco Shithole by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I dare any person who has ever been to, or lived in SF to disagree with me.

    And I mean it literally as that is where multiple times I have seen someone taking a dump *against a wall*.

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    1. Re:San Francisco Shithole by gnick · · Score: 4, Informative

      best tacos in the world

      Them's fightin' words...

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    2. Re:San Francisco Shithole by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Good economy, good jobs, art, restaurants, beach, good transit system, best tacos in the world, fog, not one but two of the best bridges in the country, bison, Hunky Jesus, BYOBW, a little public nudity now and again, music scene, comedy scene, donut scene ... I could go on.

      All better things that what you hay-bailn', pickup drivin' yahoos in the flyover states consider culture.

      You're trolling but this is fun, and I'm waiting for a build to finish, so I'll bite.

      My flyover state has fresh air, incredible scenery, lots of great skiing, hiking, rock climbing, fishing, hunting... and open space, not crammed cheek by jowl full of people. Plus low cost of living and a sense of community that is all but impossible to find in SF. So, different strokes, I guess. I can't figure out why anyone would want to live in a big city. It's fun to visit now and again, especially for the art (great restaurants I can get closer to home).

      Oh, and a rusty old pickup has a much better route schedule than the best public transit system ever created. It goes exactly where you want to go, exactly when you want to go, and can carry a lot of stuff. Not only does it not require rails, in a pinch it doesn't even need a road.

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  7. ok..what did the car DO? by Danathar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What I want to know is how did the car react? What did it do? Obviously it's not going to drive over a pedestrian, but from a purely autonomous car programming perspective I'd like to know how the car reacted to it (or not)

    1. Re:ok..what did the car DO? by swell · · Score: 4, Funny

      "how did the car react?"

      The car is in treatment. Due to patient confidentiality, no official statement was available. Informed sources claim that it is in a severely depressed state but expected to recover.

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    2. Re:ok..what did the car DO? by swell · · Score: 5, Funny

      Caution:

      Never anthropomorphize smart cars. They hate it when you do that!

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