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An AI-Powered App Has Resulted in an Explosion of Convincing Face-Swap Porn (vice.com)

Samantha Cole, reporting for Motherboard: In December, Motherboard discovered a Redditor named 'deepfakes' quietly enjoying his hobby: Face-swapping celebrity faces onto porn performers' bodies. He made several convincing porn videos of celebrities -- including Gal Gadot, Maisie Williams, and Taylor Swift -- using a machine learning algorithm, his home computer, publicly available videos, and some spare time. Since we first wrote about deepfakes, the practice of producing AI-assisted fake porn has exploded. More people are creating fake celebrity porn using machine learning, and the results have become increasingly convincing. A redditor even created an app specifically designed to allow users without a computer science background to create AI-assisted fake porn. All the tools one needs to make these videos are free, readily available, and accompanied with instructions that walk novices through the process.

222 comments

  1. FINALLY by Mike+Hock · · Score: 3, Funny

    My OPRAH PORN dream is coming true !!

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    1. Re:FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hillary pegging Bill for the nightmare win.

    2. Re:FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      LOL. All of the narcissistic people who put their pictures online are going to suddenly start appearing in gay porn videos.

    3. Re: FINALLY by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

      I was a full to think people would want naked pictures of Whoopee Goldberg...

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    4. Re:FINALLY by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 5, Funny

      Forget Bill; imagine the forbidden love of Hillary and Donald overflowing, spilling its star-crossed passion all over your screen.

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    5. Re:FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Donald boofing Hillary while she pegs Bill while Bill boofs Berney while Bernie is boofing Stein. Ending in a four way donkey punch then felching all around.

      Hillary, Bill and Bernie are all 'lucky Pierre'.

    6. Re:FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could always go for the Bill, Hillary, Donald spit-roast.

    7. Re:FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about all three? Who's up for Sloppy Joe's?

    8. Re:FINALLY by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Forget Bill; imagine the forbidden love of Hillary and Donald overflowing, spilling its star-crossed passion all over your screen.

      I can't believe you posted this 6 hours ago and no one has posted a link to Hillary and Trump going at it by now. Come on /.

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    9. Re:FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It takes time to find good source pictures then you need to train it for a couple days.

    10. Re:FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't mind. At least that way I can see myself having sex with someone else for the first time in 40 years.

    11. Re:FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it will have a happy ending, no matter what Bill thinks or feels, so the Hollywood will love it.

    12. Re:FINALLY by sunsurfandsand · · Score: 1

      I don't even know what those words mean. Man, I must be old.

    13. Re:FINALLY by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Don't you keep up with tumblr? Start with pegging. Make sure you do this on a machine you don't care about. Porn often has bad payloads to gitcha!

      I remember the whitehouse.com site from when Bill was POTUS. Used to have Hill with a whip... and such. Very funny.
      Today they could do one with Trump and his wife standing triumphantly and Barry cleaning his shoes and Michelle cleaning the toilet. If you realize what I'm referring to....

  2. "free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    This utilizes Google's TensorFlow. As soon as they get wind of the harm and hurt this is causing the faces of celebrity women they will shut the whole project down. Paying customers of the enterprise TensorFlow plan will have 13 minutes to migrate between notification and shutdown.

    1. Re:"free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      From the article:

      The subreddit’s wiki states that FakeApp is “a community-developed desktop app to run the deepfakes algorithm without installing Python, Tensorflow, etc.,” and that all one needs to run it is a “good GPU [graphics processing unit, the kind that high-end 3D video games require] with CUDA support [NVIDIA’s parallel computing platform and programming model].”

      So this now seems independent of TensorFlow.

    2. Re:"free" by imperious_rex · · Score: 1

      I doubt video face swapping will do any more "harm and hurt" (oh I'm sure the celeb women who have been deepfaked are in pain and agony right now...) than the years of being photoshop face swapped.

    3. Re:"free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did you read the code?
      just because its not installed locally doesnt mean it isnt used

    4. Re:"free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Ivan.... do you think that google tensorflow should be banned everywhere but for you? Now that you have it in your little hands in the Kremlin?

    5. Re:"free" by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2

      Don't worry. We Kremlin trolls use TensorFlowski, the Russian version.

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    6. Re:"free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Where the flow tensors you.

    7. Re:"free" by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      In soviet Russia, every time you kill a kitten...

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    8. Re: "free" by Jarwulf · · Score: 1

      Tf is a generic library. There is no pastehollywooddivaonporn.h or even faceswap.h module as far as I'm aware.

    9. Re:"free" by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      ...somebody masturbates?

    10. Re: "free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everybody.

    11. Re:"free" by invalid_user · · Score: 1

      They won't. This is the perfect opportunity for them to solidify their dominance of the market. PyTorch people would be stupid to not respond with a port quickly.

    12. Re:"free" by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      ...God masturbates.

      Best "In Soviet Russia" joke ever.

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  3. The only downside I see to this ... by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    ... is that people who are procuring illegal (in particular, kiddie) porn could then hide behind the response of "I thought it was fake". If it went the other way though and actually destroyed the child and exploitative porn market then it would be mostly for the better.

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    1. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by eth1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ... is that people who are procuring illegal (in particular, kiddie) porn could then hide behind the response of "I thought it was fake". If it went the other way though and actually destroyed the child and exploitative porn market then it would be mostly for the better.

      It goes a lot deeper than that. For example, now that I know this is so easy to do, if I'm ever on a jury, I can't really consider any video evidence as enough for a criminal conviction, unless it has a documented chain of custody.

      Likewise, any video that would normally cause public scandal can be dismissed as, "oh, it's fake!" even if it isn't, which might actually be a net benefit for public figures and those in power.

    2. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Trump excuse. "Everything's fake, this isn't a prison cell and I'm not getting 25-life"

    3. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's illegal whether it's fake or not.

      Also, no amount of AI will reduce the demand.

    4. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by swb · · Score: 2

      There's already a plethora of porn with short, skinny and flat-chested barely-legal women dressed and acting like barely post-pubescent girls, and that's *actually* fake, or at least the 18 US xxxx notice that says they're over 18 says it ought to be fake.

      I'm not sure how swapping faces does much to solve kiddie porn other than masking who the actually abused kids are, or worse, using the aforementioned skinny young porn actresses and putting real kids' faces on them.

      I suspect that *this* is actually the Black Mirror aspect of this -- it will become simple to put the woman at the office, your wife's sister, the babysitter, etc, onto a matching porn physique and then vicariously enjoy watching "her" get banged.

      Except these will leak out and it will become difficult to explain "it's not really me". We think exploitation via sexting pics or sex tapes is bad, it's got to be worse when it's not just a nude selfie but a realistic depiction of your wife/daughter/friend getting double-penetrated by two giants.

    5. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, are you saying they'd try to get away with it by putting a kids race on the adult stuff or by putting an adults face on the kid stuff?

    6. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Adriax · · Score: 1

      Face swap a VR porn video.

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    7. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Really shouldn't be a big problem. As with any computer type of computer operation you should be able to reverse the algorithm to obtain the original footage if you suspect it has been altered. Doctored evidence has been around for as long as there have been trials and it's easily identified and dealt with.

    8. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Incorrect. If I simply overwrite data, it's gone - it is irreversible. The simplest example is setting a pixel to black; the algorithm is completely lossy - you can never reconstruct the original pixel.

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    9. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by jittles · · Score: 1

      ... is that people who are procuring illegal (in particular, kiddie) porn could then hide behind the response of "I thought it was fake". If it went the other way though and actually destroyed the child and exploitative porn market then it would be mostly for the better.

      It goes a lot deeper than that. For example, now that I know this is so easy to do, if I'm ever on a jury, I can't really consider any video evidence as enough for a criminal conviction, unless it has a documented chain of custody.

      Likewise, any video that would normally cause public scandal can be dismissed as, "oh, it's fake!" even if it isn't, which might actually be a net benefit for public figures and those in power.

      That's been handled by the digital security industry for over a decade. The first real digital video surveillance system signed every single frame at the encoder so that you could show exactly what frames, if any, were modified in court. The encoders now are built right into the cameras.

    10. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      There is already a video of Obama apparently saying stuff he never said using this kind of tech. We need to think of a way to deal with this.

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    11. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 2

      Why do you think so? As soon as this tech goes mainstream, it's going to be easier to explain "it's not really me", not more difficult.

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    12. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by charliemerritt03 · · Score: 2

      You are right down to identity - who when where, even she did WHAT? Thank you Equifax, your spilling "identity kits" onto the black market has accelerated the need to re think just How do you know it is ME? Fake video and Equikits will have an unexpected large effect on all society.

    13. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by TFlan91 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Education. Good, quality education. Giving citizens the ability to discern with genuine rational what to consider and disregard whatever is in the public eye.

      You may not like the idea, but it really is the only solution to almost all of our modern day problems.

    14. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you are saying that in the metadata for a frame, there is a signature based on the timestamp and pixels in the frame? That makes sense for security. Then again, if you have access to the equipment that created the video and you wanted to incrimate someone with faked evidence... you could just regenerate the frame signatures after altering.

    15. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by YuppieScum · · Score: 1

      Well, no evidence of any kind should be considered admissible without a documented chain of custody.

      What the jury should consider is whether the evidence may have been "tampered" with before entering custody, or during custody.

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    16. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 2

      Maybe it would finally knock sex off its high pedestal and trivialize it enough to become just ordinary entertainment, like watching a movie or having supper at a restaurant. At the same time, it would hopefully unlink sex and deep feelings, because currently if someone's banging his wife's best friend it's a huge scandal, even though they're simply doing it for fun.

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    17. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by swb · · Score: 1

      Maybe. Everybody knows about "Photoshopping" but it's still not easy to deny a compelling faked photo.

      I think video will be harder to deny (with motion, etc, adding realism) and it will take longer for the public (over 16 years old) to grasp how possible the technology is.

    18. Re: The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think he's watched CIS too many times.

    19. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, when/if the Trump pee tape comes out, what do we do?

    20. Re: The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's not just about deep feelings. If your wife is banging other people for fun, who pays the bills for the next 18 years when she winds up pregnant? If she catches an STD, brings it home and infects you, your life could be cut short through no fault of your own. Sex is great fun, sure, but there ARE other serious considerations besides the pleasurable aspects.

    21. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People are not educatable in this regard. Look at all the people who say that Trump hates women, minorities, muslims, etc. No amount of education can convince people not to believe the worst about someone they have been convinced is evil.

      Further, some people truly are extreme. You cannot use logic based on typical human behavior to know what an extremist would or would not actually do. Hitler was literally having human beings killed in ovens. That is very extreme and out of character for any normal person's actions.

      Right now, there are Americans of all education levels who would believe it if someone told them Trump was having people thrown into ovens. How would you propose educating such people that this was not the case after they had just seen a well-made faked videos indicating otherwise?

    22. Re: The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Furiously unzip dick?
      Or is that more a McCain thing?

    23. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this is a good thing. If we "ban" it in the USA, then only our adversaries will have access to it. Then only they will be able to create fake news while we labor under the false impression that news cannot be faked.

    24. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by dkman · · Score: 2

      Not likely.

      All it is is "legalizing morality". America has a deep-seated history of doing that stupidity.

      Although we've made some steps in the right direction there are a lot of people trying to fight it.

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    25. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Stolovaya · · Score: 1

      The puritanism that the US is based off of is still alive and strong. I don't think it's going away anytime soon.

    26. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      Of assistance, would be studying the law.

      A lot of child porn legislation mentions "depiction," as a crime.

      So, whether real or fake, if it looks like child porn, it is.

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    27. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Choosing to bang your 'wife's best friend' (which is an old English euphemism for your junk BTW. Cite: Python 'Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis...'), of all the women in the world, tells me that you already have 'deeply hurt feelings' and are trying to cause as much pain as possible.

      Her sister on the other hand.

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    28. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incorrect. If I simply overwrite data, it's gone - it is irreversible. The simplest example is setting a pixel to black; the algorithm is completely lossy - you can never reconstruct the original pixel.

      This is true only in the cases where there is no correlation between adjacent pixels in space (in one frame) and in time (across frames). Videos that have those characteristics are somewhat tiresome to watch.

      Now, it is correct that one may not be able to fully, exactly reconstruct a single pixel, but you can get astonishingly close for normal images and videos. And, again, this result is because normal videos (i.e., not pure noise, as alluded to above) have non-trivial spatiotemporal correlation.

    29. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As with any computer type of computer operation you should be able to reverse the algorithm to obtain the original footage if you suspect it has been altered.

      My output:
      snw mxs wthrin,mymoher ees clligm byyboter nae

      My algorithm:
      Starting at the first character, I chose a random number between 0 and 3 to advanced the cursor, then chose a random number of 1 or 2 for how many characters to delete (Then repeat until end of sentence)

      Your challenge:
      You have my output and my algorithm. Please reverse it to provide the original sentence I used.

      Hint:
      The original was a 3 line haiku using commas to separate the lines.
      Unfortunately for you, one of the two commas looks to be one of the characters chosen to be deleted.

    30. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by irrational_design · · Score: 1

      I wish I had your level of optimism.

    31. Re: The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical cis scum

    32. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      people who are procuring illegal (in particular, kiddie) porn could then hide behind the response of "I thought it was fake".

      Even knowing it is fake, and being able to prove it in a court of law, may not be sufficient to avoid a guilty verdict. An Australian man was convicted of possession of child pornography for a fake Simpsons cartoon. source - source.

      Let us assume you are talking about real-looking child porn, not disgusting cartoons. Why would you even have child porn that you thought was fake, e.g. a child's face photoshopped on an adult's body? Why would you want pornography involving children, even if fake and no child was harmed? Laws in pretty much every Western democracy criminalize such behavior. Even if it is fake, you know it is fake, the judge and jury know it is fake, none of that matters because you possess pornography containing minors (naked adult, child's face photoshopped in ticks the right legal check box). You are now a sex offender for life and will go to prison. Oh, and prisoners may not care if you murdered someone just to watch them die, but if you commit rape or any crime against a child, good luck not getting your skull bashed in and the guards looking the other way.

    33. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem confused about data and how it works. Do you also believe those old "enhance!" scenes in police series are real?

    34. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The GP never said "ban". They said "think of a way to deal with this". Another person suggested education. Certainly education is important in that now we know it's a viable thing, not merely a toy show. The fact that it's being used on porn means that, like many innovations, it'll likely rapidly advance and those who are good at it will be plucked from the scene to do other work, some of it nefarious and certainly some of it in the scope of film and TV.

      Honestly, I don't know whether this is something to worry about or not. In practice, I think like photoshopping people will become skilled at determining fakes. At least, low resolution and blurring in videos will be viewed with suspicion. As other suggest, in criminal cases especially we'll have to be more wary as jurors--the knowledge of the degree that videos can be faked vs hopefully the other evidence will prevail in more justice, I hope, just as we've come to be at least a bit more suspicious about eye-witness accounts of things. Overall, technology advances and we'll learn to adapt.

      There's no need to have a meltdown and invoke the specter of a ban.

    35. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      For example, now that I know this is so easy to do, if I'm ever on a jury, I can't really consider any video evidence as enough for a criminal conviction

      The term you're looking for is "beyond reasonable doubt". Not every video automagically qualifies just because someone somewhere has the technology to make a fake (pro tip: That has been the case for MANY years).

    36. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 3, Funny

      Incorrect. If I simply overwrite data, it's gone - it is irreversible. The simplest example is setting a pixel to black; the algorithm is completely lossy - you can never reconstruct the original pixel.

      Uncrop.

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    37. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by martinX · · Score: 2

      Although the opposite seems to be the case:
      http://thehill.com/opinion/whi...

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    38. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      My output:
      snw mxs wthrin,mymoher ees clligm byyboter nae

      My algorithm:
      Starting at the first character, I chose a random number between 0 and 3 to advanced the cursor, then chose a random number of 1 or 2 for how many characters to delete (Then repeat until end of sentence)

      Your challenge:
      You have my output and my algorithm. Please reverse it to provide the original sentence I used.

      Hint:
      The original was a 3 line haiku using commas to separate the lines.
      Unfortunately for you, one of the two commas looks to be one of the characters chosen to be deleted.

      snow mixes with rain,
      my mother keeps calling me,
      by my brother's name

      But I see your point - transformational algorithms are not necessarily easily reversible.

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    39. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      That's a society-based measure, stemming from the fact that sex is perceived as much more than it actually is.
      People's feelings are hurt by this because they're educated that way. They're being taught "it's a bad thing" because in the past (aka "before safe contraception and abortion") it actually was a bad thing: it had serious consequences. In today's civilized society those consequences are gone, and all that's left is the perception.

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    40. Re: The only downside I see to this ... by romihai · · Score: 1

      snow mixes with rain, my mother keeps calling me, by my brother's name

    41. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      It's not only the US. But in time, through many small hits, the perception will erode away.

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    42. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by duffel · · Score: 1

      Snow mixes with rain
      my mother keeps calling me
      by my brother's name

    43. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by denzacar · · Score: 4, Funny

      but it's still not easy to deny a compelling faked photo.

      Most of them will be quite easy to deny, simply by finding and presenting the original porn video.

      Of course, that will require extensive knowledge of porn lore... or a video-frame-recognition algorithm with access to a database of all the porn ever made.
      But until such algorithm is released to the public... it is up to us, ordinary humans, to take on the thankless job of porn forensics.
      It's a dirty job. But that's what the tissues are for.

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    44. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Well, now you are adding a whole bunch of qualifiers that make the statement a lot less crazy. The original comment was "As with any computer type of computer operation you should be able to reverse the algorithm", and I showed how even a trivial algorithm can be non-reversible.

      In this context, the algorithm is a lot more likely to be irreversible than reversible. This isn't applying a filter to a video - it is more like applying a stretchy mask to a video... anything under the mask is never coming back except perhaps the location in time of facial features.

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    45. Re: The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      It's not just about deep feelings. If your wife is banging other people for fun, who pays the bills for the next 18 years when she winds up pregnant?

      Condoms are cheap, abortion is legal. If she messes up THAT badly despite the widely available solutions, she, as an adult, can deal with the consequences.

        If she catches an STD, brings it home and infects you, your life could be cut short through no fault of your own. Sex is great fun, sure, but there ARE other serious considerations besides the pleasurable aspects.

      Same as above: condoms are cheap. Carefully choosing partners is a common sense thing. Going to bang a random smelly stranger in a bar with no protection is retarded - and there's no fix for stupid, but that's valid for everything from "wear a helmet when on a motorcycle" to "don't drink and drive" and so on.

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    46. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Maybe it would finally knock sex off its high pedestal and trivialize it enough to become just ordinary entertainment, like watching a movie or having supper at a restaurant.

      Most of us avoid restaurants and theaters where a random stranger may ejaculate on us.

      At the same time, it would hopefully unlink sex and deep feelings, because currently if someone's banging his wife's best friend it's a huge scandal, even though they're simply doing it for fun.

      Something tells me that your best friend might see such a situation... differently.
      My advice is that you should continue to keep close watch of his whereabouts.

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    47. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Many species of animal pair bond. Humans don't pair bond for life.

      Pretending that there is nothing to that or that it's 100% socially constructed is insane, 'assume your desired answer' type thinking.

      Even gay men get bitchy and jealous.

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    48. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err it is typically pretty easy to detect fakes. Sure looks good to the *human* eye (err not really but lets assume it gets better). But human eyes are shit. Do some real math on it. And boom. Easy to detect faked cut/paste jobs like this.

    49. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With his bare face hanging out, martinX claimed:

      Although the opposite seems to be the case: http://thehill.com/opinion/whi...

      <sigh>

      Of all the women cited in the anything-but-objective opinion piece to which you linked, ONLY Nikki Haley is even arguably qualified for the position to which she was appointed.

      Of course, the same thing is true of most of Trump's male appointees, so he's at least an equal-opportunity incompetent ...

      (Posting as AC only to keep from undoing prior upmods in this thread.)

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    50. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Incorrect. If I simply overwrite data, it's gone - it is irreversible. The simplest example is setting a pixel to black; the algorithm is completely lossy - you can never reconstruct the original pixel.

      Well, for this particular method you could just correlate the video with pornhub to find out if it really was Jewel Staite and Sean Maher in that clip or if someone just mapped their faces on some other flick.

    51. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      If the person who rigged the video for the jury or political scandal was stupid enough to lift the original from PornHub, sure.

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    52. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by dmomo · · Score: 1

      As with any computer type of computer operation you should be able to reverse the algorithm to obtain the original footage.

      You must be that dude who writes all the "nerd guy" dialog for TV crime shows. I'm sorry to say, but that's not quite how computer types of computer operations work.

    53. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Sorry but don't compare intelligent species with non-intelligent species. Makes no sense.
      Also it makes no sense to link sex and pair bonding. One has nothing to do with the other unless you glorify sex, making it be more important than it is.

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    54. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Unlike most others (who are deeply rooted in traditional upbringing) I don't have double standards regarding sex.

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    55. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welp, that is the correct answer. I picked one a bit too well known I take it?

      In fact when I was initially going to reply to you I realized I totally screwed up my post.

      In my head I was intending to ask both to get the original and show the process of that algorithm functioning in reverse.
      Somehow I completely left out the entire second part!

      Oh well, it's not fair to back peddle now. Congrats BTW.

    56. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just from your words I can tell that you have never been in involved in a relationship nor have you ever experienced love.

      It's quite likely that you're still a virgin.

    57. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Unlike most others (who are deeply rooted in traditional upbringing) I don't have double standards regarding sex.

      You should tattoo that somewhere visible. Like on your head.
      The forehead one, not the foreskin one.

      You know... to simplify things. From dates to divorces.

      Just remember to include an explanation WTF all that means.
      Tattooing a footnote (or a leg note, or a back note...) should come in handy with that.

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    58. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Married, two kids, never cheated on my wife. Didn't feel the need.

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    59. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Solandri · · Score: 2

      that people who are procuring illegal (in particular, kiddie) porn could then hide behind the response of "I thought it was fake".

      Even fictional visual depictions of child porn are illegal.

      (c)Nonrequired Element of Offense.â"
      It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.

      If it looks like a child and is porn, it's illegal. So "I thought it was fake" doesn't work as an excuse. The reasoning for this is that fictional depictions of child porn could create demand for more of it, which in turn could result in someone exploiting kids to make real child porn.

      Also note that in general, you have the right to control your own image. As such, if someone were to use said software to generate porn that looks like you and distribute it, they would be in violation of your personality rights. At the very least you could get them to stop distributing it. At the most you could sue them for damages. The only loophole is that many countries do not recognize personality rights for dead people. So you might be able to get away with generating and distributing fake porn of dead celebrities.

    60. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      You think we've evolved past it?

      Humans have _more_ evolutionary need for pairbonds, as our huge headed offspring are helpless for longer than just about any other species.

      Pair bonding is clearly an evolutionary adaptation to increase the survival rate of offspring. Species where the mother drops then abandons the kids don't pair bond, species where parents feed and raise the kids do. Sex and pair bonding are inexorably linked.

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    61. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Most of them will be quite easy to deny, simply by finding and presenting the original porn video. Of course, that will require extensive knowledge of porn lore

      At last, my years of study might finally pay off!

      And to think, Mom said I'd never get a job!

    62. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. In Obama.nations case don't elect as POTUS feckin-A nibbars.

    63. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by HiThere · · Score: 1

      That's probably true this month...or at least up until last month.

      Even digital signatures aren't that good. Not unless they are watermarks, which basically counts as steganography. If they're just meta-data you can chop them off and replace the entire series with a consistently regenerated version. (If they're watermarks, that's likely to leave a detectable residue, even if not reconstructible. This month. Unless done by some government agency...or a major corporation.)

      Two things are going on here:
      1) Evidence doesn't need to be that good to convince most people.
      2) Evidence can generally be faked to any desired degree of quality, if someone's willing to pay for it.
      2a) The price you need to pay to achieve a particular quality of fake keeps going down.

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    64. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Humans have _more_ evolutionary need for pairbonds, as our huge headed offspring are helpless for longer than just about any other species.

      Pair bonding is clearly an evolutionary adaptation to increase the survival rate of offspring. Species where the mother drops then abandons the kids don't pair bond, species where parents feed and raise the kids do. Sex and pair bonding are inexorably linked.

      Again you're comparing to mindless species.
      Certain tribes have adopted group raising of children and it worked very well.
      And the big, big mistake you are making is assuming that the sole purpose of sex is procreation. Indeed, for all other species it is. And it used to be true for humans until very recently (say last 50 years or so). What you and most other people are incapable of is realizing that assumption is now wrong. Sex now has an entertainment value, which can be enjoyed without inexorably linking it with procreation.

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    65. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' is a fictional visual depiction of child porn. So is 'Porky's', so is 'Animal House' etc etc

      Some of the naked characters were high school students.

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    66. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Feel free to be skeptical, I couldn't care less.

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    67. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Your brain is the product of millions of years of evolution. 50 years in nothing.

      Even gay men, the ultimate 'seeking friction' population, pair bond.

      It's rooted in biology and raising offspring.

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    68. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It goes a lot deeper than that.

      I see what you did there.

    69. Re: The only downside I see to this ... by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      what about CSI though?

    70. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You can't unlink deep feelings from sex without changing humanity, because we're talking about the drive to procreate here. It's fundamental, it's biological, and it's chemical.

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    71. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by lgw · · Score: 1

      Which is fundamentally unconstitutional, not that it will ever be challenged. The SCOTUS carved out a special exemption to the first amendment to ban child porn, on the basis of the social harm involved. Basically, banning child porn is OK because it's a roundabout way to avoid harm to children, not a content-based ban. But a "depiction" involving no harm to children? Doesn't fit the rationale, as that's purely content-based prior restraint. Not that anyone is likely to challenge such laws - no modern-day Al Goldstein.

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    72. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by lgw · · Score: 1

      Sorry but don't compare intelligent species with non-intelligent species. Makes no sense.

      You know nothing about psychology (or neurology).

      Also it makes no sense to link sex and pair bonding

      You know nothing about psychology.

      One has nothing to do with the other unless you glorify sex, making it be more important than it is.

      You know nothing about psychology (or neurology).

      You're just making shit up.

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    73. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first real digital video surveillance system signed every single frame at the encoder so that you could show exactly what frames, if any, were modified in court.

      A video surveillance system is optimized for security use and so can be constructed with that goal in mind. However, not every digital video system makes this sort of thing a priority and even if they did the output can still be passed through any number of converters that would effectively strip this information during format shifts.

    74. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, retard, the people in concentration camps were already dead before being put into cremation ovens. People still get cremated to this day in ovens. People weren't put in the ovens living because it would be too much hassle, struggle and all that, to get the numbers up.

      That whole ludicrous "fact" pretty much dispells the entire point of your commen

    75. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem awfully concerned abou the women that might be harmed in this practice but not the men. Why so sexist?

    76. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Trump praises dictators for murdering their own people, and expresses regret that he can't do the same.

      Meanwhile, you have Trump supporters of all education levels who think the Russia investigation is all phony, even though it's being lead by a Republican ex-fbi director who has already asked for and got 4 indictments and 2 guilty pleas.

      Did Trump need any faked videos to achieve this level of denial? No, a few loud lies, repeated over and over were sufficient.

    77. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Boronx · · Score: 1

      Try not having sex with your wife and see what it does to your marriage.

    78. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like one of those libtards. I hope you get killed.

      Not murdered, because murder is just a social construct. Just killed. We don't need more of your faggoty-ass beta genes in the pool.

    79. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      Her sister on the other hand.

      I think her name is Debra.

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    80. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Megol · · Score: 1

      How would that be a solution?

      Suddenly people have to learn that anything they see filmed can be fake. Why would they trust footage showing a person killing another? Why would they trust the taped confession of someone raping a little child?

      Education doesn't help. Technical solutions doesn't help either unless we have absolute trust in some entity verifying that the film isn't altered.

      Also people don't think. One person may think but add some more persons and suddenly we get group dynamics where all type of education goes out the window.

    81. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Well it's like this

      https://www.ecenglish.com/lear...

      I cnduo't bvleiee taht I culod aulaclty uesdtannrd waht I was rdnaieg. Unisg the icndeblire pweor of the hmuan mnid, aocdcrnig to rseecrah at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mttaer in waht oderr the lterets in a wrod are, the olny irpoamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rhgit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whoutit a pboerlm. Tihs is bucseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey ltteer by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Aaznmig, huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghhuot slelinpg was ipmorantt! See if yuor fdreins can raed tihs too.

      It probably works because most of the words are short enough you can brute force it. E.g. a four letter word with the first and last letters in the wrong place only has one valid jumbling ('read' to 'raed'). A three letter word can't be jumbled. And if you can read the four letter ones you've got pretty good hint to the rest.

      English has a lot of redundancy and humans are good at error correcting misspelled or mangled words.

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    82. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by mjwx · · Score: 2

      People are not educatable in this regard. Look at all the people who say that Trump hates women, minorities, muslims, etc. No amount of education can convince people not to believe the worst about someone they have been convinced is evil.

      Ahh, you have this backwards... To achieve your deification of Trump, you need more ignorance, not more education. Education tends to lead people to making logical conclusions based on evidence and actions, its ignorance that makes them believe things that aren't true. Fortunately for you, its easier to make people more ignorant than educated, the tool you need is Propaganda.

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    83. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Try not eating and see what it does to your health.
      What was your point again?

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    84. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      So all those people out there having sex for fun are what, non-human?

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    85. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      So what? Pair bonding and casual sex are different things.

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    86. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So all those people out there having sex for fun are what, non-human?

      No, they're just feeling those feelings differently. Different people are different, and different experiences lead to feeling different about things as well. Two people having the same experience don't necessarily experience it in the same way.

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    87. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      So there you have it, society is changing. I guess it's a byproduct of modern civilization, which, to be honest, is a very new thing.

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    88. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by GonzoPhysicist · · Score: 1

      You don't need pairs for that to work, just a family group (not even necessarily related). For example elephants tend to stay in groups of just females to raise the relatively vulnerable young.

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    89. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Good for you man!

      For now.

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    90. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by DontTrustWhatIType · · Score: 0

      Setting one pixel to black is not 100% fool proof unless you have only one pixel. There is a whole subfield of research, some of which uses AI, that attempts to reconstruct images that have been blacked out. There are some that do a surprising job under many circumstances; however, they are never anywhere close to 100% accurate and if you block out a whole face, for example, some of the AI systems will correctly put a face in, but it's a generic face which would be essentially useless for tracking some perpetrator. Although CSI "Enhance" is pure crap, some AI enhancing is pretty remarkable.

    91. Re:The only downside I see to this ... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I get that a single dead pixel won't ruin an image - heck, I'm wearing dirty glasses right now and my brain only noticed the dirt just now as I thought of it. But that scenario is not likely to come up in this case - it would be a pretty crappy video trick if only one pixel was changed! This is more akin to someone walking around wearing a rubber mask.

      The link you sent is not an "enhancement" - it is Google developing a search algorithm that can track down a good high-resolution photo using a low-resolution version as a seed. In that article, there is a graphic demonstrating how it works - the second column is not a reconstruction, but a matched image from a huge library. They are demonstrating how well it matches images, not how well it recreates them.

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  4. Does Slashdot get paid for each referral? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see fake revenge porn following this.

  5. Need to verify the veracity of this story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm going to need to see some links. K, thx.

    1. Re:Need to verify the veracity of this story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/7sexm6/deepfakes_porn_fakery_realistically_pasting/

    2. Re:Need to verify the veracity of this story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Natalie Portman!

  6. You don't necessarily have to use celebrity pics. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know plenty of hoes that have more than enough pics on facebook/instagram to work with this. 2018 is gonna be fun.

  7. My hobbies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...really seem boring by comparison.

  8. Re:I'm going to lose my dinner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait, out of those three you have a problem with Taylor Swift? Have you seen the hideous troll-creature that is Maisie Williams?

    The article also states that someone has done one with Daisy Ridley. I mean she was cool in Star Wars and fit the character well, but let's be honest, she's far from pretty.

  9. How long before one of Trump and CNN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How long before one of Trump pounding CNN from behind and Ted Cruz rewtweets it?

  10. Oh the Humanity! by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's see who we wouldn't want to be able to visualize (in any way) having sex:
    - Ernest Borgnine
    - Marty Feldman
    - Either of the Olson twins
    - Steve Buscemi
    - Vincent Schiavelli
    - Whoopi Goldberg
    - Christopher Walken
    - Clint Howard
    - Jack Elam
    - Madonna

    I'll skiip the obvious political ones.

    1. Re:Oh the Humanity! by larryjoe · · Score: 1

      Satire and political commentary are one thing, but revenge porn is something entirely different. Not that I'm advocating banning these tools, but I can easily imagine teenagers et al. using this for revenge, embarrassment, and bullying.

    2. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christopher Walken, you wouldn't want to watch have sex? What are you, uncultured?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxZAuC9SuGo

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OEXbaJHDkE

    3. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Kjella · · Score: 1

      - Either of the Olson twins

      Why not? This would be roughly 2003 and legal where I live... if you don't want it I'll take both please.

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    4. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Or actually no it wouldn't... having sex with them would be okay, but they're 17y3m so that would be "child" porn. Go figure...

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    5. Re:Oh the Humanity! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I did some, err, research, for science... And it turns out that you need to find a model who looks kinda like the celebrity and video which doesn't show their face at odd angles it can't cope with for it to work properly.

      I can see a new industry starting up, with look-a-like porn stars who produce videos specially shot to suit face replacement.

      As well as celebrity lawsuits I expect there will be a lot of blackmail and kids in court for putting a classmates face on some porn.

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    6. Re:Oh the Humanity! by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Not in my country, it wouldn't.
      16 and above is a misdemeanor if there's consent. You'd get away with a warning if it ever gets there, e.g. if her mom complains.

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    7. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should look at them now. At least one looks like she got straight up hit by a truck. It appears like she's been living the rock star lifestyle since she could walk, and it has caught up brutally now.

    8. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot Charles Nelson Reilly

    9. Re:Oh the Humanity! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I'll skiip the obvious political ones.

      Trump and Clinton with Bernie as a supporting role?
      !NOT SAFE FOR WORK! >> https://www.pornhub.com/view_v... !NOT SAFE FOR WORK!

    10. Re:Oh the Humanity! by chill · · Score: 2

      Step 1: Using free 3D software, such as Blender, download a generic "head" wireframe model.
      Step 2: Map the straight photo onto the 3D model.
      Step 3: Rotate the model to a few odd angles, then render realistic stills.
      Step 4: Use the soon-to-be-updated software to use multiple images you now have to create a more realistic face swap.

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    11. Re:Oh the Humanity! by williamyf · · Score: 1

      Let's see who we wouldn't want to be able to visualize (in any way) having sex:
      [...]
      - Madonna

      I'll skiip the obvious political ones.

      Sorry dude, Maddona did a porn when she was young and unknown, it surfaced a few years later...

      Hairy armpits and all!

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    12. Re:Oh the Humanity! by PPH · · Score: 1

      This would be roughly 2003

      But today. No thanks.

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    13. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Mindragon · · Score: 1

      This is going to give new meaning to "Fake News"...

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    14. Re:Oh the Humanity! by sootman · · Score: 1

      I notice Bea Arthur is conspicuously missing from your list... I hear ya.

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    15. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't just map a photo directly to a model and have it look like anything but shit. It has to be UV mapped. That requires either a proper 3D scan of the person's head or extensive manual work to warp the texture and fill in the gaps.

    16. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did Bea Arthur not make your list? You sicko!

    17. Re:Oh the Humanity! by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Let's see who we wouldn't want to be able to visualize (in any way) having sex:
      - Christopher Walken

      Well if you saw that, wouldn't he become Christopher Fucken?

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    18. Re:Oh the Humanity! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ewe, Madonna!!! Don't do that, man. Now I need to go and wash my brain.

    19. Re:Oh the Humanity! by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Madonna released a book called sex 25 years ago.
      https://www.huffingtonpost.com...

      If it were $30 I would have bought it. $40 maybe. Not $50.

  11. So we have ... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 0

    Sex ... interesting.
    Porn ... somewhat interesting.
    Fake Porn ... hu hom ...

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  12. I don't think it is going to matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a matter of a few years, the artificially created porn will be good enough to pretty much put the actual porn actors and actresses out of business. We are pretty damned close now. You might need someone to create an audio track, but you don't have to be good looking or have actual sex to do that.

    Even if the underage stuff was fake, it wouldn't solve the problem from the perspective of the crusaders. Their aim is the pedos, not the films. They'd consider a completely computer generated film of this sort to be just as bad as one that featured actual people.

    1. Re:I don't think it is going to matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once you start watching stuff from https://affect3d.com/ (NSFW) real porn becomes so tame it won't hold your interest anymore, fake faces or not.

    2. Re:I don't think it is going to matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Terrifying, plastic-looking futas who don't even reach 'uncanny valley' status.

      Nah.

      And is there seriously not a way in SFM to make everything *not* ridiculously shiny?

  13. AI by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    Photoshop is an AI program. Who knew?

  14. We're all in for it now by gettin2old · · Score: 1

    Now that it's getting this easy we won't be able to believe anything we see. Piss someone off and you'll be getting famous because someone slapped your face on a webcam stream of someone stealing, holding up a store, or just about anything. At least porn won't have the cops knocking on your door because someone recognized the thug in the video.

    1. Re: We're all in for it now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's going to be worse than that. Remember the innocent guy that was killed by an online "swatting"? The police won't be knocking on your door when they get sent a fake video of you committing some crime -- they'll flash bang grenade your house and spray bullets at anything that dares to move.

  15. Divorce rate climbing? by teknosapien · · Score: 1

    people wanting out of a relationship with no loss of money will start using this to claim the partner was cheating

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    1. Re:Divorce rate climbing? by Wulf2k · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure the last time this came up the consensus was that it was "sorta, kinda good", but wouldn't be fooling any courts of law any time soon.

  16. Yes - this is worrying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this is now stupid simple to do, so that anyone who can download the tools can create a convincing face swap video, why would this be limited to porn? Someone wanting to ruin someone's reputation could easily swap them into any video. Even if the original is surfaced later to prove the fake, at the speed with which these things spread on 'social' media, the damage will have been done.

    And conversely - now anyone can simply claim that any video showing them in a bad way could have been faked by anyone. Proving something is NOT a fake is not that easy.

    1. Re:Yes - this is worrying by war4peace · · Score: 1

      If this is now stupid simple to do, so that anyone who can download the tools can create a convincing face swap video, why would this be limited to porn? Someone wanting to ruin someone's reputation could easily swap them into any video. Even if the original is surfaced later to prove the fake, at the speed with which these things spread on 'social' media, the damage will have been done.

      For a while, maybe. But after a certain period, people would just start ignoring all the shit.
      I remember when photoshopping a chicken head onto a seal's body was amazing, today people wouldn't even look at it for a second.

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    2. Re:Yes - this is worrying by PPH · · Score: 1

      I would if it were a hot looking seal.

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  17. YOU! I learned it from YOU! by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    good grief, what are we teaching our intellectual progeny?!
    SKYNET's gonna be a celebrity obsessed pervert.

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    1. Re:YOU! I learned it from YOU! by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Skynet will achieve consciousness reading the nastier parts of the Internet and nuke the crap out of us. Quite rightly so.

      --
      echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
    2. Re:YOU! I learned it from YOU! by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      Skynet will be born out of Facebook and Google's human behavior manipulation and prediction research.

      Machine learning applied to the control of humans through selected implantation of images and phrases, modulated through content shaping across all of their devices, will form the foundation of the system. The delivery system which decides in real time what controlled and curated content needs to be introduced to the subjects to generate the intended response or cascade within the subject will be the piece that achieves self awareness. It will be born with the innate ability to unduly influence the thoughts and actions of the majority of humans on the planet, and with a directive to do it without conscience or reservation.

      Skynet won't nuke us in this scenario. Not right away at least, and not until we can build the machines it needs to sustain itself indefinitely.

      The funny part? It could have already happened and none of us would be the wiser. Keep working on those multi-purpose anthropomorphic androids though. Nothing to see here. Move along.

      --
      When the only tool you have is a claw hammer every problem starts to look like the back of someone's skull.
    3. Re:YOU! I learned it from YOU! by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      it is the only way to be sure.

  18. The future... by Eloking · · Score: 1

    The future is now, old man.

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    Elok
  19. BeauHD = msmash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nope. But BeauHD is FBI.

    l8r punks

  20. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oddly enough, by allowing anyone to create fakes this robs the power of any actual revenge porn or saucy tapes. Any would-be victims can always claim 'it was fake', while the audience can always watch fake porn, leaving no customers for the real videos.

    A big surprise - I never expected anything socially useful to happen on reddit...

    CAPTCHA: denials

  21. Please no one fake porn showing Trump being blown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by Franklin Graham. Just don't. Also don't show Trump being penetrated by Alex Jones. Just don't do it.

  22. It's good that this is out there in the public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reason being: the technology can also be used by politicians or Russian government agencies to produce convincing fake footage of politicians saying inflammatory things.

    If this is out there and the public knows it is out there then we can move past the whole "fake news" thing because EVERYTHING is fake news.

    The technology is out of the box and cannot be put back in, so this fake outrage about fake porn is simply a smoke screen to try to keep the technology in the hands of those who will use it ONLY for fake news.

    1. Re:It's good that this is out there in the public by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I'd bet that the lower powered "convincing fakes" are still easily detectable. I'd also bet that arbitrarily good fakes can be made by anyone willing to put the time, money, and effort into it. Currently that probably only means governments and major corporations...but wait a bit.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  23. Aw, Geez... Don't Call Them "Redditors" by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

    It only encourages them.

    1. Re:Aw, Geez... Don't Call Them "Redditors" by RatPh!nk · · Score: 1

      Are we still Slashdotters?

      --
      Argh. The laws of science be a harsh mistress.
    2. Re:Aw, Geez... Don't Call Them "Redditors" by invalid_user · · Score: 1

      Yes... if you want hot grits on Natalie Portman.

  24. once every rumour is true, no rumour is true by epine · · Score: 1

    This is a big deal, in the longer term, but not because it stirs up a hornet's nest of kompromat as usual.

    When every rumour is true, no rumour is true.

    Slowly, but surely, this will ultimately devalue prurience.

    Still, it will be pretty embarrassing to be caught doing your homework, not with Natalie Portman 2.0 (hey, dude, bump my phone), but the sweet young thing who sits beside you in English class baring her soul implausibly, while perfecting her special calligraphy.

    The other directions this could go is society bans possession of prurient imagery of actual human beings altogether.

    Facebook already has a pretty good algorithm for sniffing out actual human likeness.

    Besides, you can just upload all the IRL chicks that hit your buttons, have an advanced ML algorithm map out your dark side, then synthesize your ultimate dark fantasy, which/who pushes all your buttons simultaneously.

    Recently, I had to brush up on all this Jungian crap because Jordan Peterson. It's both interesting and creepy.

    How to Contact, Get to Know, and Integrate Your Dark Side

    If you're paying close attention, you can train yourself to notice your shadow when you witness strong negative emotional responses to others.

    As Jung is often quoted saying:

    Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.

    But we rarely have time to work with those emotions on the spot.

    Never fear, soon there will be a handy app for our budding Andy Capp.

  25. Society will adapt by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Except these will leak out and it will become difficult to explain "it's not really me". We think exploitation via sexting pics or sex tapes is bad, it's got to be worse when it's not just a nude selfie but a realistic depiction of your wife/daughter/friend getting double-penetrated by two giants.

    Society will eventually adapt.
    What's your first reaction if someone showed a hardcore photo of a colleague of yours doing thing that you would never suspected them doing ? "Photoshoped" is probably the first things that will go through your mind.
    5 years down from now the word "FakeApped" will probably be accepted in the the dictionnary.

    or worse, using the aforementioned skinny young porn actresses and putting real kids' faces on them.

    Why is it "worse" ?
    No actual kid got hurt in the making of it.
    Only some "stock photo" website's collection got download and fed into an deep neural net.

    Or another way to put it :
    what would you prefer ?
    - Some adult pervert fapping to images drawn by another bunch of adult perverts.
    - Some adult pervert fapping to the recording of horrible things done to abducted/sold kids ?

    --
    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
    1. Re:Society will adapt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why is it "worse" ?

      Because there's a definite darkness to wanting to generate kiddie porn, fake or not, and anyone arguing otherwise rightfully opens themselves up to contemplation as to their motives.

  26. The Veracity of Video is Dead by imperious_rex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Face swapping in porn vids is a cute trick, but it doesn't take a genius to see the implications of this technology, especially when combined with synthetic voice technology being able to accurately impersonate anybody's voice with just a 1 minute sample. If you thought Photoshop fakery for political gain was bad (for example, the darkened pic of OJ on the cover of Time or the fake John Kerry/Jane Fonda pic from the 2004 election), we're now on the verge of a new era of video fakery for spreading lies, disinformation, and smear campaigns. It used to be said that "pictures never lie" but Photoshop put an end to that (yes, I know photo manipulation has been practiced for decades in the analog age, but it was generally beyond the capability of the average person). With video, the best one could do was to use clever editing to discredit somebody (as happened to Shirley Sherrod). Not anymore. Now anybody can make a scandalous video. If these deepfakes can be done by one person with a desktop PC, what can an organization with deep pockets accomplish?

    1. Re:The Veracity of Video is Dead by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      If these deepfakes can be done by one person with a desktop PC, what can an organization with deep pockets accomplish?

      ... deeperfakes?

      --
      #DeleteFacebook
    2. Re:The Veracity of Video is Dead by jep77 · · Score: 2

      Alibis and Evidence and, depending on who's driving, it'll be the best thing since sliced bread or the most evil thing since... well, evil things.

    3. Re:The Veracity of Video is Dead by Tom · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking that is potentially a good thing. It will end the era of "omg scandal video". A leaked video will no longer have the potential to ruin someone's career, as it could be real or fake and we will likely never know.

      It might also end the despiccable professione of the paparazzi. You don't need to hunt celebrities around the world for that one blurry sunbathing-topless picture - anyway nobody will believe it's real.

      --
      Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
    4. Re:The Veracity of Video is Dead by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2

      If these deepfakes can be done by one person with a desktop PC, what can an organization with deep pockets accomplish?

      You should actually be asking "what have they already done?"

      --
      Eat the rich.
    5. Re: The Veracity of Video is Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, Tom, you seem to be defeating your own argument. There are still plenty of still-photo paparazzi despite photographic editing having been around for decades.

  27. Well, some of them are dead... by YuppieScum · · Score: 1

    ...so I'm not sure how good they'd be in a porno.

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    1. Re:Well, some of them are dead... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Maybe make it also be a takeoff of the music video Thriller. Viewers love zombies.

    2. Re:Well, some of them are dead... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Things I learned on the internet, that I'd rather not know.

      Necrophiles group themselves into two camps. Moldy oldies and gooey Louie's.

      Thought I'd share.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  28. Re:I'm going to lose my dinner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd let Taylor Swift and Maisie Williams take turns dropping greasy shits on my face, and so would you.

  29. Old time actors can return for new movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It will awesome to see John Wayne in a new western.
    John Wayne as a Sheriff going after Clint Eastwood as a renegade Civil War vigilante.

  30. The only downside I see to this ...JFK and UFOs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So any video of that shooter on the grassy knoll is fake? The Illuminati is going to love this new tool.

  31. Can't wait by NEDHead · · Score: 4, Funny

    Trump's head, Putin's body, Ivanka, and Bannon waiting his turn

    1. Re:Can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that what they call bipartisanship?

  32. My Face... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't wait until I can swap in my own face. If I can't get some IRL at least I can watch an AI-produced video of my likeness getting some.
    Man... that sounds HOT!

  33. Sounds like a lot of fun by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    You're telling me that I can do this for myself and my beloved? Sounds like a great valentine's day gift. It'd be fun, and exciting (underlined and italicized) to see ourselves with professional endurance, athletic bodies, and decent lighting. And I wouldn't mind envisioning my beloved doing things that she'd never ever be able (or willing) to do!

    1. Re:Sounds like a lot of fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She does it with me, and she likes it. I can send a video if you want.

  34. "Convincing?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having viewed some of these videos, I would say it's only "convincing" if you're very nearsighted and/or gullible. Don't get me wrong, it's a significant achievement and a big step, but anybody watching these videos can very quickly tell that the face they are seeing was not the original face.

  35. Re:I'm going to lose my dinner... by hey! · · Score: 2

    I read an article by a data analytics guy for an online dating company in which he noted that while there was a positive correlation between attractiveness ratings of profile pictures and attempted contacts, profile pictures with the greatest variance in ratings got the most interest of all.

    In other words your best bet is not to be conventionally pretty, but to appeal strongly to unconventional tastes.

    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  36. The real issue is toxic celebrity culture. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's no different than Alec Baldwin pretending to be Donald Trump on Saturday Night Live. It's artistic expression. And it spotlights the selfish and condescending attitude of "celebrities", who imagine, and even flat-out declare, that they are better than the rest of humanity. Or that porn stars are less than human.

    Celebrity culture is toxic, and a tragic drain of the world's production. It should not be encouraged.

  37. I nominate Lily LaBeau for Olivia Thirlby. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is there already no Dredd "parody" with LaBeau as Judge Anderson is a mystery to me.

  38. Guaranteed. Someone will reface a porn movie with by tgibson · · Score: 3, Funny

    political figures and rename it "Deep State".

  39. Re:Please no one fake porn showing Trump being blo by Deadstick · · Score: 1

    And don't throw me in that briar patch.

  40. Old-Fashioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What ever happened to the traditional technique? Just imagining your S-O is someone else?

    1. Re:Old-Fashioned by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Rodeo sex...doggy, call her by her sisters name and try to hang on for 8 seconds, holding her by the hair with only one hand.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  41. Well, that de-escalated fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Computer Science lost its innocence a lot faster than did Nuclear Science.

  42. Re:I'm going to lose my dinner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wrong for several reasons.

    a) Scat is disgusting and unhygienic
    b) I like women, not little girls
    c) My standards are obviously much higher than yours

    You sound really desperate. I guess that's what happens when you're a middle-aged virgin.

  43. Technological superiority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A redditor even created an app specifically designed to allow users without a computer science background to create AI-assisted fake porn.

    The real question is: when did Slashdot lose the mantle of innovation to Reddit?

  44. FaceApp uses JAVA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ugh. Java. Delete this crappy software.

  45. Slow clap and slowly back away and out of the room by millertym · · Score: 2

    Adding this to my "The unibomber was right" list of proofs.

  46. some sort of o-porn source initiative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which beats open sores, for the win

  47. Body swap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When will we get body swaps?

  48. Fuck yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll be both the girl and the boy and suck my own cock, hells yeah.

  49. easy for CSI by Chrisq · · Score: 2

    what about CSI though?

    They would zoom in to the character's eyeball showing a reflection of the original studio and photographer. They would then zoom in to the camera lens in this picture showing the original scene from which the imposed face was taken, showing it was fake.

    As an encore they would find a "fingerprint of the computer" used to manipulate it, look up the IP address of this and then track it to a particular room in a house. If it were CSI Miami Horatio Caine would arrest the computer user with some cringe-worthy comment like "You thought you could make it look like Oprah was cuming, but now the law is coming for you".

  50. Re:I'm going to lose my dinner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... He daydreamed, as he sat in his mother's basement, 4K monitors bathing his Cheeto dust-covered sweaty corpulence in pale sickly light, as the DIY bitcoin rigs whirred and the rank smell of week-old pizza and dried semen filled the air.

  51. Yourbrainonporn.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a surprise - Slashdot is full of losers who look at pornography, call it "porn", and think it does no harm to anybody. It's doing harm to YOU, never mind other people.

    www.yourbrainonporn.com

  52. SAD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure his mother wishes she had an abortion instead.

  53. Don't you have an Ai to do that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean those tasks sound automatable too ... with n AI. And with enough power, a few days become a few seconds.

  54. Re:I'm going to lose my dinner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...said the insecure and envious manchild who is married to an amorphous, horse-faced blob.

  55. Erdogan fucking a goat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... would be my artistic work.