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Scientists Discover the Oldest Human Fossils Outside Africa (npr.org)
Archaeologists in Israel have discovered the oldest fossil of a modern human outside Africa, suggesting that humans first migrated out of the content much earlier than previously believed. NPR reports: The scientists were digging in a cave called Misliya, on the slopes of Mount Carmel on the northern coast of Israel. "The cave is one of a series of prehistoric caves," says Mina Weinstein-Evron of the Zinman Institute of Archaeology at the University of Haifa, who led the team. "It's a collapsed cave, but people lived there before it collapsed." The cave had been occupied for several hundred thousand years, she says. All the archaeological evidence suggested that the ancient people who lived in the cave were hunter-gatherers. "They were hunting animals, mainly ungulates, like fallow dear, gazelle, aurochs [an extinct species of wild cattle] and other small animals," says Weinstein-Evron. "They built fireplaces throughout the length of the cave, again and again, in the same place, in the same sort of defined arrangement."
Weinstein-Evron says she and her team wanted to find out which species of ancient humans lived in the cave. So, she says, they kept digging. "And among the animal bones and flint tools we found a jawbone, an upper jawbone of an individual," she says. A detailed analysis of the jawbone and the teeth confirmed that it indeed belonged to someone of our species, Homo sapiens. And when they dated the fossil, it turned out to be between 177,000 and 194,000 years old, making it the oldest known such fossil outside the African continent.
Weinstein-Evron says she and her team wanted to find out which species of ancient humans lived in the cave. So, she says, they kept digging. "And among the animal bones and flint tools we found a jawbone, an upper jawbone of an individual," she says. A detailed analysis of the jawbone and the teeth confirmed that it indeed belonged to someone of our species, Homo sapiens. And when they dated the fossil, it turned out to be between 177,000 and 194,000 years old, making it the oldest known such fossil outside the African continent.
Sorry, thought it was a story about the Republican party.
"...were hunter-gatherers. "They were hunting animals.."
Yes, that's how it works. You hunt animals, you gather plants. Not the other way around.
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Humans migrated out of the content fairly recently. In fact before Google it was all content. Now it's all ads.
Any proof which way they were heading?
But was it an inhabitant of the cave or just another meal of the real inhabitants?
I thought the first humans didn't leave Africa until about 60,000 years ago. This has been stated authoritatively again and again. Now it seems it is 117,000 years to 194,000 years. What an error rate. My guess is the methods they are using for dating materials is a complete joke, but no one likes to admit it.
Continent not content.
What a lie! The first human is in Former Yugoslavian republic of Macedonia.... every Macedonian knows that
Homo sapiens probably got into Levant region and southern Arabian peninsula probably. Did they get past the Neanderthals beyond Persian gulf or into Turkey?
It is generally believed H sapiens broke out a few times before in the past into Arabian peninsula. But only after the Great Leap Forward, 75000 years ago, they were able to break really out that region past Persian gulf.
The Great Leap could have been development of language, or some novel way to master coastal navigation to access off shore island resources, or both.
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How many dear were found on that content?
One day they'll find the master of that cave, an ape.
Can't get accurate history with when the Mandela Effect keep changing it.
Berenstein -> Berenstain
Mirror Mirror on the wall -> Magic Mirror on the wall
Solar system at Sagittarian Arm -> Orion Arm
Even the human body has changed.
There was a glitch in the matrix.
Can't get accurate history with when the Mandela Effect keep changing it.
Berenstein -> Berenstain
Mirror Mirror on the wall -> Magic Mirror on the wall
Solar system at Sagittarian Arm -> Orion Arm
Even the human body has changed.
There was a glitch in the matrix
That if the fossil was found where they say - and it's on the edge of say 190,000 years old that in my thinking pushes the existence of homo sapiens out to 200,000-250,000 years.
And basically we were hunter/gatherer for close to 245,000 years. Oh and this puts a serious dent in the Earth at 6,000 years old crowd.
There are suspicions that those Dead Sea Scrolls aren't as old as it is alleged they are, and that at least some of them are forgeries created and artificially aged with UV and/or nuclear bombardment, then inserted into the collection, to reinforce an otherwise unproven Jewish mythology.
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It sounds kind of fantastic but keep in mind that the Israelis wouldn't let anyone examine them for over 40 years - and keep in mind how DESPERATE the Israelis are to forge a bond with their homeland, even going so far as to claim that hummus is a Jewish food.
And so you can see how fossils discovered in Israel that claim to be out of the ordinary receive more than the ordinary amount of scrutiny.
Why would Israel do such a thing? Because 'what's good for Israel is good for the Jews' - in this case, it would position Jewish archaeologists are the forefront and increase the chances that they would be appointed to other positions of greater influence.
It's sad to see scientific inquiry take second place to military necessity but the relentless burrowing beneath foundations of Palestinian houses shows clearly that Israeli scientists are not above destroying Palestinian homes AND doing world class research at the same time.
PS: I'm Jewish. So don't even go there. That button is broken; don't waste your time pushing it, you broke it by pounding on it.
are not the remains of the oldest human. The odds are than humans are older still. The question you need to ask yourself if humans can go from a hunter/gathering tribe to civilization is 13,000 yrs like they did in America what have humans been doing for 200,000 yrs and more. Something is wrong.
"They built fireplaces throughout the length of the cave, again and again, in the same place, in the same sort of defined arrangement."
Seems to me that any tribe of humans that relies upon caves and uses fire pits might very well cause extensive health issues and limit their success as a group. Since we do not know yet if they advanced beyond being cave dwellers they certainly are a poor candidate for being an Adam and Eve keystone offshoot of modern humans. I doubt that they actually used the caves as a permanent place of long term residence, however if they did then most likely the health problems created by the air quality did some very nasty things to the group health wise.
It seems that primitive tribes that ventured forth away from primitive shelters like a cave would have better health and a better chance of surviving as a group. Indeed an essential part of our evolution as a species may very well be not hunkering down in what we assume to be civilized groups. The way we are effecting the air quality of the entire earth today, it may be that unless we continue to venture forth as a species we may not survive too much longer on this planet as a group. Ika had the right idea she didn't live in caves but made out with freely with other sub species and wandered around a lot for an H. sapiens I know she made me into an H. erectus just watching her do her schtick!
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Scientists Discover the Oldest Human Fossils Outside Africa
Hold muh beer, y'all. I gotta go out back of the trailer and fetch granny's skullbone.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
There is a huge misconception even among many paleontologists concerning the out-of-Africa "waves". Your typical band of hunter-gather humans can cover 500 miles a year. The walk from lake Victoria to Greece by way of the Nile, the Mediterranean coast and Black Sea coast is roughly 6500 miles. That is just 13 years of walking. The conceptions of the theory over-emphasize humans staying in Africa. Two ice ages intersect this timeline. Partly depending on the climate and coastline levels, humans would have been almost continuously "leaking" out of Africa ... and dying out. We have indications that the population of modern humans was around 1,000,000 for around 100,000 years. In other words, pretty much every blood line died out. The people who survived are our ancestors, the timing associated with our genetic lines are the basis of the modern out-of-Africa theory. The "waves" only refer to the survivors. There were orders of magnitude more people who followed the same paths whose decedents did not make it.
This is about the first Homo Sapiens Sapiens who left Africa, not the first humans. (you may wonder where Home Sapiens Conservativus originated:-)
If you are religiously or racistly inclined then you could classify the genus of Homo as humans and our ancestors who belonged to the genus of Australopithecus as animals (even though clearly different from the apes), so the first humans would have lived between three and two million years ago - a factor of ten earlier.
I expect they will find many more in the near future.