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Ask Slashdot: Which Tech Company Do You Respect Most?

dryriver writes: On Slashdot, we often discuss the missteps and non consumer-friendly behavior of various tech companies. This company forced people into a subscription payment model. That tech company doesn't respect people's privacy. Yet another tech company failed to fix a dangerous exploit quickly, protect people's cloud data properly, or innovate and improve where innovation and improvement was badly needed.

Here's a question to the contrary: Of all the tech companies you know well and follow -- small, medium, or large -- which are the ones that you respect the most, and why? Which are the companies that still -- or newly -- create great tech in a landscape dotted with profiteers? Also, what is your personal criteria for judging whether a tech company is "good," "neutral," or "bad?"

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  1. trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    trump university.

    1. Re:trump by saloomy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ubiquiti. They have good products, at good price points. They are well documented, contribute back to the open source community, and they are truly revolutionary in their hardware designs.

      Their software is mostly free as well. You can download and use it at will.

    2. Re: trump by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's like they're all over the place!

  2. Whoever by sexconker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whoever it was that decided to shutdown their secure email service instead of hand over info to the feds.

    1. Re:Whoever by koavf · · Score: 5, Informative

      Lavabit.

    2. Re:Whoever by Solandri · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As noble as committing corporate seppuku to uphold a principle may be, it means you're no longer around to uphold that principle anymore. You can't instill it upon others, you deprive the side advocating that principle a voice, and your example soon fades from memory. A more noble course of action would've been actively and publicly fighting the Feds' attempts to get them to release secure emails.

      As General Patton put it, "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country."

    3. Re:Whoever by koavf · · Score: 5, Informative

      Do you realize that Lavabit *did* fight this in a secret court? And that they reconstituted the company with Silent Circle to make a secure mailing protocol? I get the impression you made this comment without reading anything about what happened in court (the owner was given a gag order from his own *lawyer*) and what has happened since 2014. Is that accurate?

  3. craigslist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only truly ethical tech company I can even really think of.

  4. What tech company do you respect most? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple, in 2010. Year of Mac OS X Snow Leopard.

    It's been downhill ever since:
    No Mac mini update since 2012, downgraded in 2014.
    No real update for the MacBook Air since 2015.
    No more iPod shuffle.
    Unreliable keyboards with almost no travel in $1000+ computers.
    Either no RAM slots, or insanely hard to access RAM slots except in their $1800+ iMacs, iMac Pro not included.

    1. Re:What tech company do you respect most? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually the brings up a good point. It isn't what company that you respect the most, is where was that company when you respected them the most?
      Being that most companies are For-Profit there seems to be a time, where the lust for cash crosses their main values.

      The big companies Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, IBM... All had their high points where they were respected at one time for being the best example of a company. Then they will undoubtedly trim the fat too much, treat customers poorly, or move the company in a direction people don't want to go and use the companies size and influence to push it.

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  5. Which by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ask Slashdot: What Tech Company Do You Respect Most?

    *Which* Tech Company Do You Respect Most?

    1. Re:Which by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      So, Grammarly?

      Jokes aside, perhaps as to what qualities such a company ought to have is not a bad one either.

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  6. What Tech Company do I by oldgraybeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Respect? duh! None! why should we?

    Just my 2 cents ;)

  7. The Onion by jfdavis668 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only source for news.

    1. Re:The Onion by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Onion.com is suffering a slump because real news from the White House is more zany.

  8. None... by blahplusplus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... since they are all in bed with the entertainment industry and are hell bent on a war against computing and people owning and controlling their own software.

    The coming war on General computing and software freedom

    1. Re:None... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What about someone like Red Hat?

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    2. Re:None... by oldgraybeard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Didn't they create the plague that is systemd ;) lol

      Puts on flame suit ;)

      Just my 2 cents ;)

    3. Re:None... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Lennart Poettering has been a RedHat employee for a long time. They didn't just adopt it, they paid him to write it. He's also responsible for PulseAudio, and I think was working for RedHat then as well.

      He's also responsible for Avahi, which is at least only mediocre rather than actively harmful.

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  9. Qwest by AHuxley · · Score: 2
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  10. Mozilla by RickRussellTX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah, the Mr. Robot promotion was a huge mistake, and they've finally admitted that and pledged to do better.

    But I think that mistake only garnered so much attention because Mozilla has been so transparent and aggressive in protecting privacy and advancing the state of browser technology. If somebody like Goog or MSFT pulled that crap, nobody would blink an eye.

    1. Re:Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As far as I'm concerned they burned whatever goodwill they ever had when they fired Brendan Eich for political reasons that had nothing to do with his abilities. But even if they hadn't, their recently bullshit with killing XUL extensions and destroying the UI to turn the browser into a poor Chrome clone is enough to evaporate any respect I might have had left.

      But wait, there's more, I keep on seeing ADS for their stupid browser. Ads proudly proclaiming the death of extensions and then using BS biased tests as "proof" of the browser's speed.

      In short: I have no respect for Mozilla and even less for people who still shill for them.

    2. Re: Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mozilla's treatment of Eich is 100% on them. They decided that rather than stand for freedom they'd rather censor unpopular views.

      They literally replaced their addons system with Chrome's WebExtension API. The new Firefox is quite literally a Chrome clone.

      Beyond that, you're, my respect doesn't matter. But they also pissed away the respect of the web development community. Modern web apps target three browsers: Chrome, Mobile Safari, and Internet Explorer. And that's it. Firefox is now a rounding error in usage statistics.

      Respect that.

  11. SpaceX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems like real innovation.

    1. Re: SpaceX by Renaissance+Slacker · · Score: 2

      When SpaceX announced they were building boosters that could be recovered, every launch-capable entity said flat out it couldnâ(TM)t be done economically. As soon as Musk and Co. proved them wrong, they all scrambled to re-use their boosters or engines. SpaceX didnâ(TM)t build a new booster, they ended the one-launch paradigm. Musk put it (something like) this: would you fly a jumbo jet if the airline admitted the model had never flown before? Or would you opt for the jet with multiple safe flights on record?

    2. Re:SpaceX by Thelasko · · Score: 2

      So much tech is in software development because it's cheap to develop and the returns are huge. I respect SpaceX because they are taking huge financial risks to develop groundbreaking hardware. You just don't see that in the "information age".

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  12. Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    GNU

  13. Google '96 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do No Evil.

    It's all been down hill since then.

  14. SpaceX by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They are the only ones that are going to get us off this rock stuck in a gravity well.

  15. DuckDuckGo by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to respect Google but becoming a public company turned them evil just like every company that goes public. Now DuckDuckGo has come along and they are great because they respect your privacy and don't collect data on people. They are small with a mere 40-some employees which is enough to keep the site going and few enough for them to pay without exploiting users. If that wasn't enough, all their stuff is open source and on github.

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  16. Mozilla and DuckDuckGo by seasunset · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think Mozilla is doing wonderful things and a single mistake doesn't change that.

    DuckDuckGo is the other one...

    1. Re:Mozilla and DuckDuckGo by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      Only a *single* mistake? Do you actually use any Mozilla software?

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  17. From the top of my head: by Qbertino · · Score: 3, Informative

    Enercon
    Beyerdynamic ...
    Wiha
    Wera

    Ok, the last two are just Toolmakers, but I still count them in.

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  18. Easy questiom, Red Hat by the_pouar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They're probably the most successful open source company, and their tech is pretty good too.

  19. Tesla by mark-t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While perhaps more of a car manufacturer than tech company, I'd say that they still qualify at least partially as the latter.

  20. The (late, lamented) Sun by davecb · · Score: 2

    Tried hard, always worrried about next year, not next quarter, and got punished for it.

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  21. Define tech by MpVpRb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I despise Apple. I consider them fashion that uses tech, rather than tech
    Intel is tech, and they have accomplished great things. Of course, they are also stuck with a really bad problem at the moment
    Atmel and Microchip make useful, but un-glamorous, embedded processors. Their merger has caused us(embedded system programmers) a bit of pain, but on balance, they deserve respect
    Fairchild, NXP, Panasonic, AVX, Kemet, Bourns, Vishay and others make the essential tiny bits.. resistors, capacitors, small logic that the rest of the tech world couldn't live without
    At one time, Sony was amazing, then they shifted their focus from tech to fashion
    LG and Samsung deserve a lot of respect

    Possibly my favorite is Texas Instruments

    1. Re:Define tech by AaronW · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I love Texas Instruments. When I was designing a power supply for a hobby project I came across their web bench design site. I just plugged in the numbers and out pops a schematic, BOM and board layout with parts that are in stock from Digikey. I've always found TI's documentation to be top notch. That's not to say that some of the other semiconductor manufacturers also don't have great sites either, but I haven't yet found any that match TI. I also respect a lot of the other companies you listed.

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  22. Who Makes raspberry pi's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've never heard anything bad, only good.

    1. Re:Who Makes raspberry pi's? by supremebob · · Score: 3, Informative

      They are designed by the non profit Pi Foundation, and are made in a Sony factory in the UK.

  23. Re: At present by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pretty sure that the vast majority of C-level execs making 300x the salary of their employees are boomers, not millenials

  24. Fatmail by alexo · · Score: 2

    I have been a long time paying customer of Fastmail and I am quite happy with them.
    Yes, they take my money ($32/year if I renew for 5 years for a legacy plan), but in exchange I get services that I can rely on and prompt support when I need it.

  25. Flip It by rhadc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What tech companies respect you most?

  26. Tech Company? by c · · Score: 2

    A person mght be deserving of respect, if they earn it. Companies aren't people.

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  27. Hurricane Electric by KJ4IPS · · Score: 2

    HE.net offers nice services to their biz clients, as well as some really nice freebies for enthuasaists. (BGP Toolkit, TunnelBroker, and DNS to name a few)

  28. Here's some. by BenFenner · · Score: 5, Informative

    Electronic Frontier Foundation: https://www.eff.org/
    Enough said.

    NearlyFreeSpeech web hosting: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.n...
    They defend net nuetrality. Their pricing structure is clearly laid out with no hidden fees, and emphasis on efficiency, and they do well when you do well. They are run by highly competent individuals.


    DuckDuckGo web search: https://duckduckgo.com/html/
    Great search that doesn't track you. Fuck yes.


    PaleMoon web browser: https://www.palemoon.org/
    A modern, FOSS, secure, fast, lean, extensible, and highly configurable browser that took over where FireFox left off. It's run by individuals who have ethics, and stick to them.


    Proton Mail web mail: https://protonmail.com/
    FOSS end-to-end encrypted e-mail. The only issue I see here is that it is free, so you're likely not the customer... There is another end-to-end encrypted web-mail solution that is $5/mo. or so but I've forgotten the name. Anyone?

  29. RedHat, Canonical, et al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    RedHat is for sure on the list, alongside Canonical. They have done more for Linux and FOSS adoption by corporatizing than countless other projects combined. The profit motive is powerful and it gets products into the hands of willing consumers. RedHat and Canonical are the great heroes of FOSS.

    Open Whisper Systems deserves great praise, though it is financed by some large donors and thus isn't really a company.

    Ixquick, DuckDuckGo and ProtonMail all also deserve great thanks.

  30. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Interesting

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  31. Re:McMaster-Carr and Cloudflare by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2

    If we can include hardware manufacturers, even advanced cool hardware, then I'll throw out a nomination for Ronnie Barrett and his "little" gun company.

    After California banned possession of 50cal rifles, he stopped sales and service to all law enforcement agencies in the state. To me, that is pretty darned principled. https://web.archive.org/web/20...

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  32. Remember when most of us would've said Google? by AbRASiON · · Score: 3, Interesting

    HAHAHAHAHAA!
    HAHAHAH!

    Oh boy :(

    My, how things have changed. Honestly I think I like Microsoft more than Google now.

  33. Juniper Networks by theurge14 · · Score: 2

    Seems like they're doing pretty well these days.

  34. Are you trying to say "hardware". Ads are payment by raymorris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are you trying to say "hardware", that only hardware is technology? Because Google / Alphabet creates a lot of new technology - new speech to text technology, self-driving car tech, etc mostly created in software.

    > My standard is how they get their revenues. Making tech - like chips (Intel) makes them a tech company. Using tech to say get revenues from say advertising (Google, Yahoo! & facebook) makes them not tech.

    Advertising is a *payment method*. You can pay for YouTube by watching ads or by Visa. What generates the revenue is the cool stuff Google provides such as YouTube videos and Google maps. Slashdot and Google maps aren't in the same business, just because they both offer the same payment method. Ads are just the method of payment for the maps and videos, or articles and discussion.

  35. Re:Easy - Intel by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    At the time, a long time ago, Motorola was also alive and kicking, and promising. IBM, leader at the time and worried about these new "personal computers", promoted Microsoft software and Intel CPUs along with it. We were numerous to prefer the Motorola architecture and coding. History needs to be seen from both sides of the time period.

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  36. Re:Microsoft by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure Microsoft gets respect for that. They acted entirely in their own self interest. they wanted to sell an OS and make the hardware a commodity so that they could be the suppliers of the only non-interchangeable component. They aggressively locked out competitors in this space (e.g. intentionally breaking MS Windows on DR-DOS). It just happened that there was a beneficial side effect to their anti-competitive behaviour.

    Modern Microsoft has a few more things that might deserve respect. They've been much better at engaging with open source projects, for example contributing to LLVM and Clang, open sourcing their .NET runtime (MIT license + patent grant), contributing Linux and FreeBSD patches for Hyper-V, and so on.

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  37. Unicomp, Inc. by butzwonker · · Score: 2

    That's how I like companies - extremely good quality at a fair price, no bullshit spending half of their revenue on marketing, locally manufactured, and they ship internationally.

    Unfortunately, these companies are getting rarer and rarer. Quality has a hard time surviving among the sharks.

  38. Lavabit by iYk6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lavabit was a mixed bag, they had their pros and cons.

    Pros:

    * Provided free email service

    * Simple

    * Most of the features you expect from an email service

    * Spam and virus filters were customizable and much easier than most other services.

    * They shut down their servers instead of giving up Edward Snowden.

    Cons:

    * Buggy, bugs were never fixed, bug reports were never acknowledged

    * Poor communication skills from the developers, both free and paid accounts

    * Actively lied when they shut the service down. For about 2 days they insisted that it was just an upgrade, would be back up soon, and that our emails were not being lost. If they couldn't tell the truth for legal reasons they should have said nothing instead, there was no excuse for the lies.

    * For about 2 days after the shutdown they continued to accept emails sent to users, instead of just rejecting them so the senders would know that the emails had not been delivered.

    Lavabit is back up but I don't use them anymore because of their behavior the first time. They are just not trustworthy.

  39. Re: IBM quiet giant by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    Exactly. Ibm in the 50-70 was a power House. But from 80-90, they were a monopoly that got in the way, and now, they are nothing as told by no real innovations or profits.

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  40. Re: At present by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    Not only are they boomers, but the ethics of those boomers were horrible.
    Bill gates? Stole most tech.
    Jobs? Same.
    Ellison? Not as criminal as gates or jobs, but was considered unethical in most business dealings.
    The list goes on.

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