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AI Tailors Can Wait (bloomberg.com)
Bloomberg Businessweek: Original Stitch has all the trappings of an e-commerce success story. The pitch is simple: Original Stitch uses computer-vision software to review photos of your most beloved dress shirts uploaded to the company website, then delivers perfectly tailored copies. We tried it -- the only problem was that it didn't work. When the first shirt arrived too tight around the chest and too long in the sleeves, we figured an editor's sloppy photography was to blame, but the problems persisted with a second attempt. A third shirt, ordered under a different name to make sure we wouldn't get special treatment, could barely be buttoned up. The sleeves felt like tourniquets. "We tried to push the envelope," Original Stitch founder Jin Koh acknowledged after we confronted him with the results. "Obviously, it's still in beta." In December, three months after launching the service, Koh quietly pulled it down. He's returned to asking users to fill out a questionnaire with their own measurements while he works out the bugs.
Why test your product at all if customers can just do it for you?
1. Release product under name #1
2. Get a lot of test data from thousands of soon to be disgruntled customers
3. Close up shop
4. Release product under name #2
5. Profit
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
I say we name this AI, Denise.
Sure the AI has some flaws now, but it will eventually get better. Also, a lot of the problems are going to come from the quality of the picture. The lens usually distorts the image. I remember doing an AI project one and we had to account for the fish-eye effect of the lens. Also, our adjustments only worked for our camera and would have been broken for another camera.
Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
Even if it worked, it isn't AI. Vision and voice recognition are not AI.
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AI change everything.
Subjective is right. I got some made to measure shirts in Taiwan which fit like a glove and were hence unwearable. I ended up getting them to clone my favourite shirt which was quite a bit looser and thus wearable with a suit for eight hours in a place which is usually boiling ass hot.
Meanwhile it's not all that hard to buy ready to wear shirts which fit OK.
The problem is not creating clothes that fit like a glove, it's the subjective deviations from that which everyone is used to.
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"We tried to push the envelope, ... Obviously, it's still in beta."
This needs to be printed on a t-shirt. I would wear it everywhere.
~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
It sounds like it's the data-gathering mechanism that is insufficient to the task, not that "AI tailors" are to blame.
It's pretty flipping hard for anyone to take a picture (much less something sloppily done) and make a wearable, nicely-fitted garment from it. There's some pretty complex 3d geometry going on.
-Styopa
The obvious thing here is that they are trying to copy an existing thing, not by taking a picture of the wearer, but by taking a picture of the item. Take a look at all the chinese counterfeit websites (here's one: gamiss.com ) generally any website that is 85% off and looks like a generic shop with a label applied and uses the same photos you see on eBay are selling counterfeits (anything "new without tags" is counterfeit.) Now take a look at the reviews for these sites, you will see the same thing
"Ill fitting"
"looks like it was made in a sweatshop"
"what the fuck is this trash"
Especially with sites that deal with wedding, bridesmaid and prom dresses.
This "AI" is no better than the counterfeiters. The reason is that they're working from a photo. I bought one of these dresses from one of these sites after seeing it in the advertisements for like a month just for the hell of it. When I got it, the material used was basically garbage, and it was too short. I'd have to be 4' 6" for it to go to my knees.
I've worn stuff like that, I don't get guys that wear even tshirts that tight. It's like being saran wrapped in sandpaper once you start sweating.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
I will buy from an online tailor named Garek. That is all.
As someone who is just under 6' and just around 260lbs, I need a little extra room
With a BMI of 36+, you meet the classification for Severely Obese, and need a big extra room.
Just imagine if, instead of an AI tailor, you had to do with an AI surgeon...
Is "most beloved dress shirts" something normal people actually have? Sounds absolutely ridiculous. Using computer vision to determine measurements would be great, but you don't need to clone an existing shirt. That's just silly. Are these even going to be cheaper if they're custom manufactured for each user?
You are ignoring the chicken-or-the-egg problem. Most men don't care about fit, but it could be because most men have never had clothes that fit, outside of maybe prom and weddings.
The sane strategy for AI tailors is going to be reaching that "good enough" market first, and creeping upward as the tech improves and better data is collected.
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Yes, I'm a big guy, I'm aware of this.
But BMI is not a great measurement without other stuff like your actual muscle mass or percent body fat.
I'm pushing 50, so I'm not as fast as I used to be, but I can still lift far more than most people, and still knock most people on their asses. Based solely on height and weight, I've known people with little body fat who have been deemed obese -- they'd have to cut off a limb to make their BMI make sense.
At my age, I'm built for comfort, not for speed. I know people who weigh less than me who are far larger, because it's all flab.
Sure, I'm overweight. But stand me next to most people my age, height, and weight, and I occupy less volume. Because some of mine is still functional muscle.
When I wore clothes that other people thought fit, I was quite uncomfortable. I like a loose fit, I hate ties, etc.
OTOH, this *is* highly dependent on the material. a good stretchy material that breathes well can fit as closely as it want...around most of my body. But not around my neck. So thermal underwear (in season) is comfortable. But when I bend, it stretches to fit. That makes a big difference. Something equally close fitting that confines movement is just unacceptable. Hell, even something fairly loose that happens to hang in a way the confines movement is unacceptable. The places I usually notice this most is at the shoulders and elbows.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
You can have a looser fit that still fits, and what kind of fit is ideal is going to be highly variable from person to person. The difference would be that we're basing the clothing on the particular person's shoulders and elbows instead of mathematical averages.
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So instead of taking actual measurements, that require only maybe 5 minutes of effort, your try to do a shirt off of a photograph only? How is that a good idea, or even reasonably chanced at success? People come in all different shapes and sizes, and I fully expect to have 100% high quality custom tailored clothing within the next 10 years courtesy of robotics and AI, why make it harder and less likely to succeed than it has to be? Nail down quick and efficient custom shirt AI fabrication and have kiosks at the local mall take either automated (or even hand done) measurements like every other tailor since the dawn of civilization... Get a good fit, save their measurements in a database so you can make them more shirts later if they want and then profit...
Some people's lack of basic common sense is astounding.
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