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Pornhub Is Banning AI-Generated 'Deepfakes' Porn Videos (vice.com)

On Tuesday, Pornhub told Motherboard that it considers deepfakes to be nonconsensual porn and that it will ban these videos. "Deepfakes" is a community originally named after a Redditor who enjoys face-swapping celebrity faces onto porn performers' bodies using a machine learning algorithm. Motherboard reports: "We do not tolerate any nonconsensual content on the site and we remove all said content as soon as we are made aware of it," a spokesperson told me in an email. "Nonconsensual content directly violates our TOS [terms of service] and consists of content such as revenge porn, deepfakes or anything published without a person's consent or permission." Pornhub previously told Mashable that it has removed deepfakes that are flagged by users. Pornhub's position on deepfakes is similar to statements made by Discord and Gfycat, and in line with its existing terms of service, which prohibit content that "impersonates another person or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person."

124 comments

  1. There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Judging by how often a search yields videos that have none of the tags or anything to do with the search, other than having sexual content, I don't see how they can pretend to give a crap about this.

    It will be allowed, and tagged as something completely different, just like all the other videos uploaded.

    1. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by nonBORG · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To take issue with the subject at hand. This is a free speech issue but you still cannot slander. This I would put in the same category. As to the rest of your comments, best ignored (enough political tainting of threads already.)

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    2. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They should be, without network neutrality it is very possible that the united states or states within the union would ban these websites.

      This has absolutely nothing to do with net neutrality.

    3. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by xonen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Example :

      Trump is bad for just about everything, economy, environment, people etc. People want to argue about this even though it is obvious.

      Javascript is the best scripting language. People still want to pretend it is terrible because it took over because it was so good.

      I'm sorry but your examples are not as `obvious` as you think. Opinions differ, for a reason.

      I'd not vote for Trump, but i also don't think everything he does is wrong. And actually, how he is pictured here in Europe is only testifying non-objective press.
      Same for javascript. It's popular because it filled a niche, and came at the right time at the right place. Apart that it indeed is a horrible language.

      Things are not always perfect. Things not always have to be perfect. And any/most downsides have an upside. Trump got chosen cause a majority voted so. Javascript got popular despite a truckload of flaws. Climate change is politically abused as argument by all sides. Money and subsidies gets wasted while civilians have to pay up with unneeded taxes, while leaving the real big polluters untouched in the name of economy. Green electricity is often a farce and only consists of purchased certificates. It is very hard to find an objective truth, and surely it's less 'obvious' than you pretend it to be.

      2 off-topic cents.

      On-topic: they (pronhub) better not try to be holier than the pope or they'll lose a lot of visitors.

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    4. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by notaspy · · Score: 1

      "Trump got chosen cause a majority voted so."

      um ... no. Not even close.

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    5. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      304 to 227 sure looks like a majority.

    6. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Wootery · · Score: 0

      nothing non-objective about that

      What? Of course there is. Everyone sensible holds the opinion that Trump is a bumbling buffoon, but it remains a matter of opinion.

    7. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not network neutrality. That's censorship.

    8. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Dog-Cow · · Score: 2

      US citizens don't vote for POTUS. They vote for people who vote for POTUS. The actual voters for POTUS picked Trump. Just because Liberals don't understand the system under which they are governed does not make them right.

    9. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      What? Of course there is. Everyone sensible holds the opinion that Trump is a bumbling buffoon, but it remains a matter of opinion.

      Kinda throws your "everyone sensible" right out the window, maybe you meant to say "everyone who's a partisan hack" or something along those lines. Really, your post isn't any different then the people who say "What Trump said, is really really bad!" but when they're shown that it was say Hillary or Obama who said it suddenly panic when their bubble is popped. Or when someone is given a viewpoint/statement that they agree with, and suddenly discover that it's Trump who said it. That they again panic as their bubble is popped.

      Funny how that works, and how some people are so damned wrapped up in their derangement that they only agree with what they're being told.

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    10. Re: There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's damning of the American education system that you don't comprehend how presidential elections work.

      He absolutely won the majority of votes... By a landslide.

      What you probably (and incorrectly) believe is that Hillary won the majority, which is another sad trick you fell for along with Russian collision.

      Electors are chosen by the states, and voters choose the electors; not the president... You fucking imbecile.

    11. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by jellomizer · · Score: 0, Troll

      For the most part what Trump had said which is really bad is on the record. While things that Hillary and Obama had done is placed in an overly complex chain of events to show some sort of devious long term plot. Now just because you are left leaning doesn't mean you get a free pass for your own mindless rants. I have heard plenty of bad arguments about Trump and the GOP that are just as crazy and complex as the right wing nut.
      Trump is just a Bad President and a Bad Person. Thus it is much easier for more people to point out the problems, these people who do so may or may not partisan nut jobs.
      A lot of the people who complain about Trump, may have been mostly silent if an other GOP President was in the office, even if they didn't vote for them, they will just take it in stride that they didn't get who they wanted. However Trump is on record stating things that are stepping on our rights, and encouraging fear who do not follow him, which is not the America that I want to live in.

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    12. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Wootery · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Well, Trump is an unthinking, self-aggrandizing, emotionally immature moron, who applies a reality TV show attitude to his presidency. With these qualities in mind, I deem him to be a woefully inadequate president.

      That it's still a matter of opinion doesn't mean I'm talking nonsense.

      partisan hack

      I'm British. I have no particular love for the US's Democratic party. There's a reason virtually everyone outside the US sees Trump as a laughing stock, and it's not because they're all rooting for the Democrats.

      The Republican party deserves a damn sight better than Trump. Even Republicans admit this, at least the ones with integrity.

      people who say "What Trump said, is really really bad!" but when they're shown that it was say Hillary or Obama who said it suddenly panic when their bubble is popped

      Yup, there are plenty of unthinking partisan muppets out there, but I'm not among them.

      Or when someone is given a viewpoint/statement that they agree with, and suddenly discover that it's Trump who said it.

      Same again. That I think the man is incompetent doesn't mean I disagree with everything he's ever said. Indeed, I support some of his actions as president, such as withdrawing from TPP.

      Anyway, if you go digging, you'll find that even Hitler and Mussolini said plenty of agreeable things. That Hitler was a dog-loving vegetarian doesn't mean we now have to avoid dogs and vegetarianism.

    13. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      The people (electors) once could vote as they saw fit, now they are required to vote like their voters wanted. They get removed and replaced if they vote different.

      And I doubt being a liberal has anything to do with knowledge. Or does your lack of it make you a redneck?

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    14. Re: There's no quality control on Internet porn by tepples · · Score: 0

      Or is it damning of the way the states have implemented the Electoral College to deny suffrage to residents of "safe states"?

    15. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Wootery · · Score: 1

      [citation needed]

      Laughably partisan 'thinking' happens on both sides of the aisle.

      Trump says lots of things he doesn't really mean, like "middle class tax cut"

      Indeed, of course.

    16. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a free speech issue but you still cannot slander.

      There is nothing in the constitution granting that exception to the 1st Amendment. Everybody who refuses to accept that needs to reread it thoroughly until the phrase 'no law' is burned into their brains.

    17. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      [citation needed]. Problem is, Trump says lots of things he doesn't really mean, like "middle class tax cut"

      You mean kinda like this? It's not exactly an isolated indecent. Then again, considering the leadership of the DNC thinks that $1k-3k tax cuts for middle-class are crumbs, it's pretty easy to see what's going on. Why don't you explain how having a reduction in tax rates, really doesn't mean the middle class has more money.

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    18. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by avandesande · · Score: 1

      You are deluded... these guys are making millions hosting legitimate porn I am sure they are taking down literally hundreds of videos every day with unsavory content or copyright violation. What exactly do you mean by quality control?

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    19. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 0

      Well, Trump is an unthinking, self-aggrandizing, emotionally immature moron, who applies a reality TV show attitude to his presidency. With these qualities in mind, I deem him to be a woefully inadequate president.

      Really? So what does that make of someone like Trudeau in Canada, or Nanci Pelosi(Dem), or Keith "ethnostate are great" Ellision(dem leadership) for example. I realize that by looking at the leadership and high-leadership in the opposing party has already set an incredibly low bar, it seems, that by his own actions he's managed to accomplish more then Obama did and actually went through the house and senate instead of imposing rules, regulations and unconstitutional orders by EO's.

      I'm British. I have no particular love for the US's Democratic party. There's a reason virtually everyone outside the US sees Trump as a laughing stock, and it's not because they're all rooting for the Democrats.

      Well for one thing, that doesn't make you any less of a partisan hack. Second, that's a pretty broad brush, but then again after 8 years of Obama rolling over on the world stage and then fully destabilizing the middle east and tanking the EU? I can see why Trump is a laughing stock, yes that makes plenty of sense. Or maybe it's because you're simply believing what you're seeing without actually thinking?

      The Republican party deserves a damn sight better than Trump. Even Republicans admit this, at least the ones with integrity.

      The republicans with integrity are the ones who support Trump. The people you're talking about? RINO's, neo-cons, the same folks who were forced out the republican party by tea party groups and then were openly embraced by the democrats? You know, the same democrats who were quite happy to kill Gadafi and destabilize Syria leaving you with that nice mess you've got with 'refugees'.

      Yup, there are plenty of unthinking partisan muppets out there, but I'm not among them.

      What was that you said above? "Trump is an unthinking, self-aggrandizing, emotionally immature moron, who applies a reality TV show attitude to his presidency. With these qualities in mind, I deem him to be a woefully inadequate president." ahh...yes...

      Same again. That I think the man is incompetent doesn't mean I disagree with everything he's ever said. Indeed, I support some of his actions as president, such as withdrawing from TPP.

      So, someone who's made their own fortune is incompetent and believes that national sovereignty and their own citizens rights first is incompetent. Okay, why don't you explain without using talking points this time how that actually is so.

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    20. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 0

      Trump is just a Bad President and a Bad Person.

      And I bet you can't even explain how, except that you just "know" because of what you've heard. Not looked up, not researched or anything else.

      However Trump is on record stating things that are stepping on our rights, and encouraging fear who do not follow him, which is not the America that I want to live in.

      And yet the Obama administration did exactly that? Remember when they used a FISA warrants to go after reporters? Yeah, I bet you don't. So you don't want to live in an America where the rule of law is actually enforced, you know like with border enforcement. Or maybe you want to live in a country like Canada, where the best you can expect because of left-wing government policies is to hold minimum wage 3-4 jobs in order to make ends meet. Or in a country where your freedom of speech can be restricted because someones feelings are upset, there's plenty of countries to choose from in that case.

      Here's something for you to think on. If Hillary had won, after the multiple times she helped destabilize the middle east, and said she wanted to drone foreign embassy's to kill people who made her look bad isn't far worse. Keeping in mind that she wanted the US to directly attack Russians in Syria. Do you think we'd be having this conversation right now?

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    21. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The electors have always and still can vote as they see fit. They've always, as now, been removed if they didn't vote the way the voters wanted. Nothing has ever changed in that regards.

      And I don't get why Europeans (I believe you're German), get in a hissy on the electoral college. It's the same system that's used at the EU level in Europe. The only difference is the US tends to use winner gets all where as Europe uses proportional voting for its electors. And if you don't like that, realize that it's up to each state to choose how its electoral votes are awarded. Most states just happen to choose "winner takes all", but they could change it if they wanted.

    22. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

      It is actually a VICTORY for the United States...otherwise you'd have only a few states on either coast directing how the entire country is ruled and managed, and that is NOT fair and is not how the US was set up.

      You are a citizen of your state first, and a citizen of the United States second.

      With this country being so geographically spread out...each state has its own unique needs and views of the people and they need to be proportionally represented.

      The nice thing about all this is...it allows the states to all be somewhat different if they choose. One size does not fit all....and if you don't like how your state runs things, then you can move to one that houses people more in your line of thinking.

      The electoral college and make up of congress reflects this.

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    23. Re: There's no quality control on Internet porn by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Or is it damning of the way the states have implemented the Electoral College to deny suffrage to residents of "safe states"?

      Ok, I give up...WTF is a "safe state"?

      I don't believe I've heard or read that term in the Constitution or other documents that formed the US Union....??

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    24. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      I think he means that if the uploader doesn't tell pornhub that a video contains the grafted-on face of $SOMEONE or otherwise reference that person other than showing their face, then there is a very low chance that pornhub's robots or even humans, will have the slightest idea that the video was intended to represent $SOMEONE, much less that it does so falsely.

      Upload a video of your teacher/neighbor/coworker/celebrity without any hints of the deception, publish a link to it on some other site that pornhub doesn't crawl (and use a noreferrer link) and you can show the world whatever video you want, without pornhub catching on (or not at least not quickly catching on).

      If your problem was to prevent or oppose such a practice, what could you do? At best, it's hard.

      First idea: keep a database of celebrities' faces (since those faces are both the easiest to acquire and also the people with the deepest pockets for lawyers and therefore pose the greatest threat to pornhub) and automatically scan videos for those faces. (I haven't worked at all on face recognition and know little about it, but apparently it's a thing and works fairly well nowdays.) Doesn't help with non-celebrities, though.

      Second idea: keep a database of the face data of everyone in every video you have, and slowly try to build a dossier on every single performer in every video. Then you can also start to build whitelists. This video has a previously-known performer so you're not worried it's a fake face, but that video has the face of someone new. Not a known performer but not a celebrity either. If it's a new porn performer then maybe you'll see them again later. But a human could check it out and see if it looks possibly fake and therefore might be someone's secretary or babysitter. This would be a bigger list of shit to sort through, though. More human moderators needed.

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    25. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by avandesande · · Score: 2

      Think about what all of the stuff you don't see on these sites (like ever) and the idea that there is "no quality control" appears ludicrous.

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    26. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump is ostensibly the worst president in US history and he is portrayed as such in Europe.

      I don't think that work means what you thing it means.
      Ostensibly:
                    apparently or purportedly, but perhaps not actually.
      synonyms: apparently, seemingly, on the face of it, to all intents and purposes, outwardly, superficially, allegedly, supposedly, purportedly

      While Trump is bad, I don't think he is the worst in US History.

    27. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by porges · · Score: 3, Funny

      the subject at hand

      I see what you did there.

    28. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Flamebait"

      There ya go! Modded by a triggered democrat, every bit as weird as the Trump Supporter.

      Thank god I won't have to see how you people ruin the planet!

    29. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      If your problem was to prevent or oppose such a practice, what could you do? At best, it's hard.

      Not really, no. You just use a primitive face detection algorithm to determine when a given face is in roughly full view, and combine this with a little bit of basic face recognition to reduce the number of duplicates, and now you have a series of frames that roughly represent the first time each performer's face was in full view. Then, you use any of a number of techniques for detecting similar photos from other movies in your database. If you find one that is similar overall, but in which certain portions of the image show significant differences, one of those two videos has likely been altered, with high probability. You can then search for a more exact frame match within the two videos to very nearly eliminate false positives.

      The only way someone could really avoid being detected by such an approach would be by making a new porn video solely for the purposes of replacing one person's face with another person's face, which while possible, seems pretty unlikely to occur very often.

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    30. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      No, there are countless right wing Republicans who also think Trump is a buffoon. Or by "partisan" do you mean "anyone who is opposed to Trump?" Remember, Trump personally insulted just about every opponent in the Republican primary as well as the many in the Republican leadership. And anyone who thinks the Republicans are being given partisan marching orders by the DNC is deluedd.

    31. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Darinbob · · Score: 0

      I think there's a bit of danger in assuming Trump is just a mindless buffoon. In certain areas that he cares about, he appears startlingly shrewd (or amazingly lucky). In areas he's not so much interested in then he comes across as a buffoon. It could be an act, or it could be that in areas he doesn't care about that he's willing to say whatever silly thing is likely to be quoted by the media or earn him points with the reality tv fanbase.

      This is a reality TV star who's spend most of his adult life doing self promotion and staying in the spotlight. So when he says he wants his heroes to be people who weren't captured by the enemy, is this just an off the cuff remark that he thinks is a funny way to insult John McCain, or is he being serious and that's how he genuinely feels feels about this? I'm leaning towards the former, that he knows he's on stage and is giving an act.

    32. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Do you consider those old school Republicans, people like John McCain, Jeff Flake, George Bush (both), and so forth, to be the real Republicans, or that the new upstarts from the tea party to be the real Republicans?

      Remember, that majority of Republicans were opposed to Trump during the primaries, and a few started backtracking when Trump won, and even more backtracked after Trump won the general election, and even more followed him when they realized he was going to help with their dream wishlist. Backtracking like this for political gain is not really integrity.

    33. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having been one of those Electors last time around, I can tell you that I could have voted for anyone I wanted to, even Mickey Mouse.

      That's why I got over 2,000 letters asking me to change my vote. Luckily the opposition didn't have a current e-mail address for me, so I, unlike others, didn't have to change mine.

    34. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Rakarra · · Score: 2

      Really? So what does that make of someone like Trudeau in Canada, or Nanci Pelosi(Dem), or Keith "ethnostate are great" Ellision(dem leadership) for example. I realize that by looking at the leadership and high-leadership in the opposing party has already set an incredibly low bar,

      They do not set a very high bar, but they set it quite a bit higher than Trump does. I'm a conservative who stays far away from the Republican Party, because they sold their souls and integrity for an election victory. I have a lot more admiration for Bill Crystal or a Never-Trumper than I do a fraudster.

      it seems, that by his own actions he's managed to accomplish more then Obama did and actually went through the house and senate instead of imposing rules, regulations and unconstitutional orders by EO's.

      The only things Trump has accomplished, besides the Tax Bill, has been through the executive action. Many of those were also rejected for their illegality, but hey, they score political points with his base!

    35. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      $1k-3k tax cuts for middle-class are crumb

      Very few people in the middle class will see anything like that. That those cuts also sunset in two years while all the other cuts that benefit the upper class are permanent shows where the intention lies.

    36. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by bongey · · Score: 1

      This went off the tracks quick, post about porn videos turns into a discussion about the electoral college. By the way James Damore is right.

    37. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Very few people in the middle class will see anything like that. That those cuts also sunset in two years while all the other cuts that benefit the upper class are permanent shows where the intention lies.

      Uh, all middle class will see roughly that. That's why it's a flat-tax rate reduction. Those cuts also expire in 2025, not 2 years. The democrats refused to make the tax cuts permanent, so if you want to complain you should turn around and start there.

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    38. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Do you consider those old school Republicans, people like John McCain, Jeff Flake, George Bush (both), and so forth, to be the real Republicans, or that the new upstarts from the tea party to be the real Republicans?

      None of those people are old school republicans, they're all neocons of some flavor. Remember? They're the people that had the loving adoration of people like David Frum who was a hard-core neocon and was bumrushed out by conservatives and republicans and was openly welcomed by democrats.

      Remember, that majority of Republicans were opposed to Trump during the primaries

      Remember that the vast majority of them were also neocons as well, or only RINO's? There were very few that were considered actually conservative or republican.

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    39. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      They do not set a very high bar, but they set it quite a bit higher than Trump does. I'm a conservative who stays far away from the Republican Party, because they sold their souls and integrity for an election victory. I have a lot more admiration for Bill Crystal or a Never-Trumper than I do a fraudster.

      So why don't you explain how a person who's sold the democrat party out for personal gain(that includes the neocon Bill Crystal) aren't fraudsters. While you're at it, why don't you explain how a guy who has it all - literally, figuratively, monetarily, decided to run for president and is a fraudster.

      The only things Trump has accomplished, besides the Tax Bill, has been through the executive action. Many of those were also rejected for their illegality, but hey, they score political points with his base!

      Really? Guess that's why SCOTUS has turned around and told the lower courts to stop with the bullshit right? Or did you miss that part, or the part where SCOTUS turned around allowed the actions again admonishing the lower courts for massive oversteps of legal authority.

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    40. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      This is a reality TV star who's spend most of his adult life doing self promotion and staying in the spotlight.

      Wow, you really have read nothing about the guy have you? You think the last 10 years have been most of his adult life or something. That's kinda where you sunk any point you had, just a FYI.

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  2. Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn

  3. So Pornhub is all about DeepFakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just so long as they are commercially generated, and not computer generated? :-D

    Also: Between the two, at least deepfakes isn't trying to monetize the content while also demonetizing the porn actors/actresses. Go read up on what pornhub has been doing to become a 'titan of industry'... all the while sluggishly removing actual infringing content when it suited them to get ahead.

    1. Re:So Pornhub is all about DeepFakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well of course, if you were to create your own porn site, would you generate or pay to generate content?

      I would not if I did not have to, it is overhead to the business

    2. Re:So Pornhub is all about DeepFakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it was a waste of time covering my girlfriend in hot grits?

  4. Re:Putting obamas head on trumps body by sheramil · · Score: 2

    Just for the lulz :)

    In order to do this, you would need a porn video of President Trump. Do you happen to have any? Perhaps urolagnia themed?

  5. ToS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love how every shitty company and their dog always point to their ToS like it's the word of god.. As if anybody gives a tiny rat's ass about them.

    1. Re:ToS by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I love how every shitty company and their dog always point to their ToS like it's the word of god.. As if anybody gives a tiny rat's ass about them.

      A pair of handcuffs are harmless...until you find them on your wrists.

      Same goes for ToS. No one gives a tiny rat's ass about them...until you find yourself standing next to a lawyer in a courtroom spending thousands defending your ignorance regarding their word of god.

    2. Re:ToS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      To be fair, the ToS are more about covering their own asses than anything user related.
      Also in civilized countries (aka NOT the USA) most ToS nonsense isn't even enforceable to begin with.

    3. Re:ToS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love how every shitty company and their dog always point to their ToS like it's the word of god.. As if anybody gives a tiny rat's ass about them.

      Why? With the exception of the very small minority of US companies that attempted to link ToS with the actual law of the land*, why would anyone have a problem with this?

      (* Which is wrong on all levels, but I feel for you personally I must point out is NOT what is happening in this case and so isn't relevant to discuss)

      Ever here the phrase "In my house, my rules are the final word" ?
      It's no different, a ToS just defines said final word in writing for their property.

      You say no one gives a rats ass about them. What about your home?

      Do you really mean to say you are OK with me moving in to your house with twenty friends, kick you out for a week straight, and totally wreck the place? You seem to agree that your rules and wishes regarding your property are OK to not give a rats ass about, so you shouldn't have a problem with any of that.

      Except you would. Your home, your rules. My home, my rules. A companies property is as close to a home as a company can have, and in it is their rules, their ToS.

      To expect us to follow your rules in your home while at the same time you expect to be exempt from everyone else rules in their homes is hypocritical.

    4. Re:ToS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... regarding their word of god.

      Have you looked at an airline ToS: It reads like a EULA, they don't owe you anything, anytime, anywhere. Fortunately, the law says differently; notably, coupons and vouchers are not a substitute for a refund.

      It's financial institutions and online services that can set the ToS; everyone else is ruled by consumer protection laws.

    5. Re:ToS by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      Also in civilized countries (aka NOT the USA) most ToS nonsense isn't even enforceable to begin with.

      Guess which country most of Slashdot's readers are in. ToS can be used offensively, to trick and harm the innocent and unwary.

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    6. Re:ToS by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      ToS can be used offensively, to trick and harm the innocent and unwary.

      Err.. not that I meant to imply that I would call people-who-put-other-peoples'-faces-without-consent-into-porn-videos "innocent."

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    7. Re:ToS by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      I love how every shitty company and their dog always point to their ToS like it's the word of god.. As if anybody gives a tiny rat's ass about them.

      A pair of handcuffs are harmless...until you find them on your wrists.

      You should use a different analogy. In porn handcuffs are usually a good thing....

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    8. Re:ToS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And again that same old mistake..

      The world is governed by actual LAWS, not some made up bible text, my god man, did you actually read some of those ToS you seem to be so fond of?
      It's the LAW that will protect my house, not the "my house, my rules" poster on the wall.

    9. Re:ToS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not a mistake. A ToS is not a law. A law is not a ToS.
      If any mistake has been made, it was by you when you conflated the two.

      If you invite me into your home and I drink your last beer, no laws have been broken and no law will protect you if you again invite me into your home and I drink your last beer again.

      You issuing a rule, for example "Don't drink my beer" is not enforceable by law.
      It *IS* enforceable by you, and if I violate that rule you are free to not invite me back to your home.

      A ToS is no different. It is the websites/companies rules they expect you to follow on their property, and if you do not they will revoke your invitation onto (into?) their property.
      This is also not enforced by law*

      Only *after* the ToS is violated and your invitation is revoked does the law come in to play.
      Unauthorized access is the crime if you bypass the sites security and attempt to sign in after getting banned.

      Similarly, once you revoke my invitation to your home, trespassing is the crime if I attempt to enter it anyways.

      These are two very different things and you need to treat them as such.

      *( Repeated, those few US based tech companies that attempted to get ToS's enforced as law not withstanding. As I said, not only was that attempt wrong in all ways, but our courts even told them it is wrong and to fuck off trying. In all other sane countries this is already the case)

  6. It took long enough! by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am profoundly relieved, because that nasty Scarlett Johansson person will be unable to post videos featuring my face grafted onto the bodies of her lovers. The chance that my dignity might be outraged in this way been worrying me ever since "deepfakes" became a thing.

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    1. Re:It took long enough! by thomst · · Score: 1

      hyades1 confessed:

      I am profoundly relieved, because that nasty Scarlett Johansson person will be unable to post videos featuring my face grafted onto the bodies of her lovers. The chance that my dignity might be outraged in this way been worrying me ever since "deepfakes" became a thing.

      Somebody with points please mod parent +1 Funny ...

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    2. Re:It took long enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It gets worse. I got victimized while riding the escalator at the local mall. Pervert left the flash on and I heard even heard the click, when some hot woman in a miniskirt took a picture of my shoes with the camera hidden in her vagina.

  7. Just call it what it is by DeplorableCodeMonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are using an algorithm to appropriate the likeness of another person without their consent. The wording they've chosen, intentionally or not, makes it sound more like rape when it's really just a matter of defamation and IP infringement.

    The need to shoehorn every sexual matter into "consent" to determine the moral qualities is like how everyone goes "muh dumbocracy" over everything they don't like that a legitimately elected government does. These terms get so overloaded with rhetorical baggage that they become meaningless.

    1. Re:Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The need to shoehorn every sexual matter into "consent" to determine the moral qualities is like how everyone goes "muh dumbocracy" over everything they don't like that a legitimately elected government does. These terms get so overloaded with rhetorical baggage that they become meaningless.

      I agree for a different reason. There's nothing stopping someone from putting their likeness on a porn body because they want to improve their own self-image. In fact, there's nothing stopping two people (one porn performer and one non-porn performer) in consentually engaging in such. In fact, Nymphomaniac II did precisely that. It just involved grafting parts of the body below the waste or so (IIRC). So, yea, more defamation and IP infringement. So long as it's listed as fake, though, it's just IP infringement.

    2. Re:Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not entirely sure it would be considered IP infringement if you are using photos in public domain or that you've taken yourself.
      The porn video used is probably copyrighted, but if you use your own amateur footage then you have the rights on it.

      Defamation is possibly to go for, but if the person already has pornographic content out there then it will be hard to argue that the new video caused any harm.
      You would have to argue that it would be shameful if people got the impression that you had sex with the other actor or that there is something appalling with the substitute actors body or something.

      The safest bet is if the rights holder of the source content forbids the usage.

      What I don't get is how Pornhub could possibly enforce the ban.
      Yes, they can ban videos that ar tagged with a celebrity, but that will block both AI-edited content as well as real footage.
      The problem is that it isn't just big celebrities faces that are used. People use faces of small time streamer with 100 - 1000 viewers.
      There are probably a whole bunch of clips where some asshat used the face of a school mate or an ex and uses the content for blackmail or for the lulz.
      To be able to sort that out Purnhub needs to match the videos against all other videos and that assumes that the clips used aren't amateur porn that haven't been wildly spread.

      To some extent we have to accept that video editing have reached the point where photo editing were.
      Previously it was expensive to fake a video so it would only be cost effective for political reasons. (Getting permission to mine in a natural preservation area is something worth spending a couple of hundred millions on so you can both create a fake video supporting your cause and bribe a politician to support you.)
      This isn't something we can create laws to protect us from. We need to learn that video evidence is as reliable as photo evidence.

    3. Re:Just call it what it is by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      What it is, is using someone's likeness without their permission. Permission is just another word for consent, these videos are being treated the same way as revenge porn videos, where one or all of the people in the video did not consent to it being published. The only person putting rape into the equation is you.

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    4. Re:Just call it what it is by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      A more appropriate comparison is with hidden cameras. Secretly filming people in the nude or having sex and then publishing those images is at best a grey area in most places, if not outright illegal. While it's fine to take photos in public that happen to include other people, it's usually not okay to covertly point a camera up their skirt and take a picture.

      I guess you can argue that people shouldn't be embarrassed to be seen naked or having sex, but that's gonna be a pretty hard sell.

      So making a convincing fake video of someone having sex is likely to be similar to covertly filming them having sex, with the punishment, if any, depending heavily on the context. Celebrity having sex on a public beach published in a magazine is probably okay, covert camera installed in your neighbour's bedroom and streamed to PornHub probably isn't.

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    5. Re:Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Any rebroadcast, retransmission, or account of this game, without the express written consent of Major League Baseball, is prohibited."

      Consent has long been used in this scenarion. You're the person overreading this situation

    6. Re:Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A more appropriate comparison is with hidden cameras. Secretly filming people in the nude or having sex and then publishing those images is at best a grey area in most places, if not outright illegal.

      It's not a gray area you fucking moron. It's outright illegal. The only people who want it to be a grey area are those who mourn the loss of gawker.

      Celebrity having sex on a public beach published in a magazine is probably okay, covert camera installed in your neighbour's bedroom and streamed to PornHub probably isn't.

      Of course it isn't, but that's not what is being done, is it? What's being done is basically "photoshopped videos" (videoshopped?).

      Current laws actually cover this - photoshopping a celebrities head onto someone else's body is fine as long as a) it is made clear that it is a fake, and b) It is a fair use of the celebrities likeness (parody, satire, commentary, etc). Faking porn videos probably doesn't count as fair use of the likeness, but who knows ... maybe it does (yeah, that actually is a gray area, see?) if you put Carrie Fischer's head on the lead actress' body in your remake of "Star Whores: The Rod Awakens".

    7. Re: Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually there might be a smidge more protection here then with revenge porn. While I find the concept of revenge porn abhorrible in most cases the person did consent to the filming but not necessarily the distribution, so technically giving revenge porn away for free is ok, but anyone making money off of it is bad. Here the consent isn't given at all so any type of distribution is difficult, unless it's non-commercial fine art, which this probably isn't, or if you made it satire. So if trump screwed over some woman in deal and you used their faces you might have a tinge of a right, although I suspect the courts would say a full film is too far.

    8. Re:Just call it what it is by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      the likeness of another person without their consent.

      Jail the doppelgangers, while you're at it!

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    9. Re:Just call it what it is by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      That makes no sense. No account of it? I'm pretty sure people are allowed to talk about any game.

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    10. Re:Just call it what it is by tepples · · Score: 1

      Not entirely sure it would be considered IP infringement if you are using photos in public domain or that you've taken yourself.

      A work that does not infringe copyright under 17 USC can still infringe right of publicity under the personality rights laws of the several states.

    11. Re:Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, sometimes I forget that the US implemented the right to be forgotten long before EU had it.

    12. Re:Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is this "IP" that you're blabbering about, deplorable idiot?

    13. Re: Just call it what it is by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Well you asserting an all or nothing scenario. Certainly Pornhub will never be 100% effective at eliminating all deep fakes. But they can be good at removing the obvious ones. Also technology can be developed that detects these fakes not on facial recognition but detecting the techniques used. Detecting fake images using image analysis has long relied on clues in the data of the image not on a visual scan per se.

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    14. Re: Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great times ahead. I no longer will have to use my mind to undress a woman. I can get a computer AI to do it better for me! Technology is amazing. Soon weâ(TM)ll be able to make sex dolls of the women we undress in our minds!

    15. Re:Just call it what it is by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 1

      You are using an algorithm to appropriate the likeness of another person without their consent.

      That's why you pay a look-alike to use their image instead. Remember the movie L.A. Confidential?

  8. Re:Putting obamas head on trumps body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dunno, perhaps I should email his porn star mistress and ask her if one of her 15 bedroom cams was running.

    Thing is, I DO NOT WANT to see that mutant prune body. The man is very out of shape, very old, and his mannerisms/vanity are indicative of some kind of genital problem. Normal people don't do that to their skin and hair unless they are trying to get away from the reality of what they are.

  9. Porn parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So, what about all of those "porn parody" videos? Those have been sold for years by commercial studios ("Who's Nailin' Palin" comes to mind). Will they be banning all of those videos, too? Are they passing moral judgment on SNL sketches, too (like Alec Baldwin's Trump sketches), even though they are not explicit? Can we expect demands for SNL to be banned in the future?

    (personally, I wouldn't mind if SNL were banned - they haven't been funny in many, many years. And even back then, their funny moments were very few and far between.)

    1. Re:Porn parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, what about all of those "porn parody" videos? [...] Will they be banning all of those videos, too?

      Probably not since they are "real" and not fabricated as the face swap ones. In those cases it should be clear to the watcher that it is a parody.

    2. Re:Porn parodies by mjwx · · Score: 1

      So, what about all of those "porn parody" videos? Those have been sold for years by commercial studios ("Who's Nailin' Palin" comes to mind). Will they be banning all of those videos, too? Are they passing moral judgment on SNL sketches, too (like Alec Baldwin's Trump sketches), even though they are not explicit? Can we expect demands for SNL to be banned in the future?

      (personally, I wouldn't mind if SNL were banned - they haven't been funny in many, many years. And even back then, their funny moments were very few and far between.)

      Parodies are clearly marked as such (I.E. actors will be credited). Photoshopping the face onto someone else and calling it "Secret Angelina Jolie sex tape" is misrepresentation at the very least, deformation and possibly slander as well. PH are just covering their arses by restricting it (which is ironic for a porn site).

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    3. Re:Porn parodies by Bruinwar · · Score: 1, Interesting

      (personally, I wouldn't mind if SNL were banned - they haven't been funny in many, many years. And even back then, their funny moments were very few and far between.)

      Going off topic but then the topic sucks anyhow but people that say SNL has not been funny for years has not been watching it for years. The intro up to "IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT!" is usually funny, the guest host monologue has rarely ever been funny (Tiffany Haddish an exception, now that was funny!). Over all it's history the skits are hit & miss, no surprise there. What's been consistently hilarious, laugh out loud, is Weekend Update. Currently Colin Jost & Michel Che are doing a great job. I've been recording it for longer than I care to admit (started with VHS) & the secret is that fast forward button.

      Kenan Thomson, Kate McKinnon, Pete Davidson, these people make me laugh weekly. Have you seen Mikey Day & Alex Moffat doing the Trump son's OMG that is some funny shit right there, I don't care what your politics are.

      There's my opinion, for what it's worth. DVR it, watch it, you will likely be entertained.

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    4. Re:Porn parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the borderline of where paradoy starts/stops is CGI? What if they just put a big -this is a parody- watermark somewhere on the video to make it clear to the watcher?

    5. Re: Porn parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is it's more hit then miss and when they do hit with a one off, like the Spicer skit they just beat it like a dead horse until it's not funny anymore. Now I will say the past 2-3 years have seen an uptick in the number of good videos, but there was a long lull where most of the skits were garbage.

    6. Re:Porn parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parodies are clearly marked as such (I.E. actors will be credited).

      There is nothing preventing anyone from listing proper credits in a video with AI-assisted editing.
      From what I have seen the editor tends to tag the video with both the original actress and the person 'lending' their face to it.

      Photoshopping the face onto someone else and calling it "Secret Angelina Jolie sex tape" is misrepresentation at the very least

      Yes, but this isn't done. The videos with AI-assisted editing are mostly clearly marked as such, sometimes even with information on the photo-set used for training and number of iterations the training went through.

      deformation and possibly slander as well.

      Deformation is pretty certain from some of the badly trained AI's, and even if that should be a crime it isn't.
      Slander and Libel requires spoken respectively written words.
      It could be defamation, but that requires that the author made false statements (not the case here.), damage has been done (disputable) and that the intent was malicious. (also not the case here)

      Considering that fake porn of some semi-political figures have started popping up there is also another interesting defense to be made here:
      "Claimant is incapable of further defamation – e.g., the claimant's position in the community is so poor that defamation could not do further damage to the plaintiff."

      PH are just covering their arses by restricting it (which is ironic for a porn site).

      Yes, this is pretty much what is going on here.
      They don't mind faked porn, but they don't want it to become a political issue.

    7. Re:Porn parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parody and satire have been ruled as protected for many years. This goes back to the founding fathers and the first political revolution in America. Satire wad commonly used to poke at the foibles of the ruling class. Further, fakes attempt to present themselves as genuine. I don't believe any of the parodies mentioned here had made any representation as such.

    8. Re: Porn parodies by Bruinwar · · Score: 1

      They did the same thing back in the 70s. Cheeburger Cheeburger. Funny once, repeats were immediately old. Samurai Tailor, funny twice maybe, then it got old. Lately the alien abduction, funny as hell the first time, ok the second, not funny the third. Again I claim 9 out of 10 Weekend Updates good, with a few trial players that didn't work out. Fast forward makes it all good. The musical guests performances have actually gave me belly laughs but I don't think they were supposed to be funny.

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    9. Re:Porn parodies by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      What's been consistently hilarious, laugh out loud, is Weekend Update. Currently Colin Jost & Michel Che are doing a great job.

      Hmm..I've been watching since not far after it started.

      And over all..I find it MUCH less funny now.

      And the current weekend update crew I find to pretty much be the LEAST funny crew pretty much in the whole history of the show.

      I think there was one 80's season that had a guy one season that might have been worst, but I can't remember who that was....but these current guys stink.

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    10. Re:Porn parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah well, that's just it. Videos should not be critiqued and banned based on content, but the quality of that content.

      Poorly composed shots, failure to hold a shot, cutting off just before the money shot (this is especially bad on the car/plane wreck videos on youtube, with a 10 minute lead in to nothing). These are the things we should punish people for! Their accounts should be shut down and their IP banned for life.

      Let's all demand better quality on our internet! Maybe we should require a license to upload videos. But we should never ever judge anything by its content. Just make sure it is technically competent. I believe that if basic film/videography were taught at an early age (begin with the importance of keeping a steady shot despite the hazards), the world will be a far better place.

  10. Re: Putting obamas head on trumps body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You spend a lot of time thinking about the Trump and his nude body. Not healthy bro.

  11. On another angle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does this play into films using cgi versions of actors faces?

    1. Re:On another angle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That one is legal, because some lawyers are paid to arrange it.

  12. Pornhub wants visitors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...to go elsewhere, is what you're saying. They'll be back once they're more commonly accepted.

  13. Blockchain P0rn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A new cause for /. readers!

  14. Re:Putting obamas head on trumps body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Putin has the urolagnia tapes. But I don't think you'll see them any time soon, the threat of release is worth more than the actual content.

  15. They're giving away their viewers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Considering that the resultant porn is not illegal all they're doing is encouraging someone to start up www.ai-gen-porn.com and make money off of it. My prediction for this sort of thing is that it will eventually be more popular than regular porn - who wants to see some random person get fucked when they can fap it to celebrity of their choice?

  16. Re:Putting obamas head on trumps body by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Who in their right mind would look for one?

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  17. fix the webcam spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pornhub has a spam problem yet they get rid of a small handful of videos that nobody really cares about.

  18. You can't stop it.. by sTERNKERN · · Score: 2

    You just give the opportunity for others to make their fortune with such a site that promotes these thing.. .There is a big demand for such a thing and it is going to be an easy task in the near future to create and use such a tool.

    1. Re:You can't stop it.. by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      I imagine the future is a media player with the capability built in, so you can sub in whatever faces you want. (Presumably your own plus some celebrity in most cases).

      Hell, forget porn (for face swapping)... I think it'd be hilarious to watch movies and put myself, my family, and friends into the lead roles. Especially if we could also do something like Lyrebird and swap the voices, too.

    2. Re:You can't stop it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'd be hilarious, but you'll have to pay for it, because it is all "derivative work".

    3. Re:You can't stop it.. by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      It'd be hilarious, but you'll have to pay for it, because it is all "derivative work".

      Only if you redistribute. Copyright covers redistribution, not consumption.

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    4. Re:You can't stop it.. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      or put your favorite politician or coworker into the Wicker Man

      "NOT THE BEES!!!!"

    5. Re:You can't stop it.. by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 1

      Haven't we been hearing about movies in the future being made with virtual actors? Has that day just arrived?

  19. Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...which prohibit content that "impersonates another person or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person."

    Does that mean Santa Claus videos are going to be removed?

    1. Re:Santa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have been making "This is not XXX" videos for the longest time and they are all protected under First Amendent Freedom of Speech laws.
      So, this ban is total bullshit!

  20. Strange by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They have had and still have 'Celebrity' videos for years.
    Stolen videos are OK but fake ones aren't?

    https://www.pornhub.com/video?...

  21. Re:Putting obamas head on trumps body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And Putin already did this....well, he put Hillary's head on Trumps body...but then he got a real tape of Hillary and now he can't tell the difference.

  22. Pornhub grabs some spotlight! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. No point in closing the barn door now.
    2. Pornhub "We though it was a real celeb leak"
    3. Pamela Anderson "No that is not my leak, that is a deep faked thingie"
    4. Do they have big plans to spend 0$ to actually remove them?
    5. Is the internet classic with Arnold Schwarzenegger's face on one of 2 screwing pit bulls, that then barfs, now going to get banned?
    6. Well that was back in 2018. now that it is 2020 there is no way to tell. It is like Photoshop now.

  23. Re: Putting obamas head on trumps body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... aaaaand done. You have just been reported to the Secret Service. #MAGA

  24. Don't think this has to do with any ToS by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    I think, perhaps cynically, that this has little to nothing to do with any 'Terms of Service', anyones' rights, or anything like that, I think this has to do with PornHub not wanting to get the living daylights sued out of them by celebrities (and perhaps media companies they work for) whose faces have been pasted onto someone making a porn video.

    1. Re:Don't think this has to do with any ToS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone who has no rights can't sue (not successfully). So they are worried about someone's rights: the rights of anyone who can afford access to justice.

  25. Re:Putting obamas head on trumps body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. Put Trumps head on Hitlers body. More accurate and realistic.

  26. "Safe state" and "swing state" defined by tepples · · Score: 1

    In U.S. presidential election politics, a "safe state" is a state that consistently elects presidential electors of one party. Contrast with a "swing state", a state whose electors' party affiliation changes from one presidential election to the next. These terms do not appear in the Constitution, nor does the term "College".

  27. Producers don't consent to copyright violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given that the vast majority of PornHub's content is copyrighted material posted without the consent of the copyright holders, shouldn't they probably go out of business?

  28. what by ohgary · · Score: 1

    You mean that wasn't Scarlett Johansson in that video I watched.

    1. Re:what by Major_Disorder · · Score: 1

      You mean that wasn't Scarlett Johansson in that video I watched.

      You mean that wasn't Scarlett Johansson I f___ed in that video you watched?

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  29. Re: Putting obamas head on trumps body by ewhac · · Score: 1

    ...Yyyyeahhh, I'm afraid I'm going to have to concur here. I have absolutely no love for the Usurper currently squatting in the White House, but that kind of shit don't fly. Let Mueller finish his work; that way it'll all be nice and legal when that slob is hauled away.

  30. Fake News, Fake Porn, Fake T.O.S. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Embrace the fakeness. Smart AI in the future will make everything fake.